NY 177: Simple Complexity (GAME OVER: Scum Wins!)
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In post 49, gameplay506 wrote:Guys I have something. Gonna share it later. Bb
Would that happen to be that reinoe is a gambit-whore and needs an ASAP lynch?WIP-
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In post 64, reinoe wrote:@Elyse & Alina
Why do you think tn hasn't updated his mafiascum wiki?
@OkaPoka &TSO@Mirhawk
Should I perform a gambit this game?
Haven't updated my wiki yet since I'm busy updating things on my Ubuntu installation.
I normally use Windows but I've got a backup OS in case windows freaks out (it has a habit of doing that, in fact)WIP-
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In post 137, notscience wrote:That he flat out admits it's a PL vote while the rest are like
"lol no gambiterinos for u"
I technically have the same reasoning, I'm just not hiding behind a wall of shit.
miguffy pls
In post 150, T S O wrote:notsci, I'm voting him for a reason.
this isn't a joke - I want a policy lynch.
I'm there with you 100% Orange Juice
inb4 this is actually kingmaker and this isn't a joke
In post 178, reinoe wrote:In post 177, Psyche wrote:reinoe you're next
Sorry I only self-vote when I'm raging at the town for speed mislynching me.
Silly raymoo, you only self vote if you're scum to deny information to town.
In post 184, Mirhawk wrote:In post 182, OkaPoka wrote:And you perform the dumbest gambits and you get drunken rage and self hammer
I'm not against this as it would probably be hilarious, but I would much rather he did it on day one.
If this is a real thing that happens, today is the day for it.
In post 190, Mirhawk wrote:A... Forest fire?
Sudowoodo. False Tree. He's actually made of stone?(cite pls)
Fire doesn't bother him.
In post 192, tree wrote:no I hate forest fires they killed all my friends gtfo you cis flesh scum
VOTE: Mirhawk
Did you really just bring tumblr-esque SJW bullshit onto mofiascum.not
You might be next afterGambitAllDayErrDayRaymoois dead.
In post 199, shaddowez wrote:In post 80, RoyalApe wrote:With absolutely nothing else to go on, seemed like as good of a reason as anybody else has used so far. VOTE: Elyse for tunneling onto a RVS vote.
Considering she only posted once asking about this (at the time, I realize there have been more since), why are you claiming she's tunneling?
NS- Have any scum reads yet, or just town?
Townreads are preferable to scumreads early on imo.
In post 205, tree wrote:This game is getting nowhere.
Claim: Innocent Child
Bow down bitches, bow, bow down bitches.
So IC Kingmaker Redux is what's going on? /s
WAHA IC NOT CONFIRMED KINGMAKER NOT CONFIRMED VIG KILL FROM TREE NOT CONFIRMED WAHAHA SCUMCLAIM HARDER PLSWIP-
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In post 245, notscience wrote:In post 240, tn5421 wrote:Townreads are preferable to scumreads early on imo.
why are you answering his question towards me
I like to answer questions.
In post 249, tree wrote:In post 232, Majiffy wrote:In post 227, tree wrote:I think Majiffy voting me is an attempt to look like town who doesn't care.
I voted you because your claim looked full of shit.
Turns out I was right. Fancy that.
This is bullshit. Sure when somebody goes "Kill: Player" you can think it's fake.
But when you see an Innocent Child claim, maybe the first reaction if you're town is to vote them for the heck of it. How the hell is it an initial town reaction to vote them because you somehow knew it wasn't real? It's like when someone doesn't eat the birthday cake, then everyone gets food poisoning and you say "see!? Iknewit was a bad cake" despite how it didn't look different from any other cake at all.
Because you're fucking scummier than Reinoe.
Congratulations.
VOTE: TreeWIP-
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In post 205, tree wrote:This game is getting nowhere.
Claim: Innocent Child
Bow down bitches, bow, bow down bitches.
I think this sums it up well enough.WIP-
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In post 456, Psyche wrote:In post 442, tn5421 wrote:
In post 205, tree wrote:This game is getting nowhere.
Claim: Innocent Child
Bow down bitches, bow, bow down bitches.
I think this sums it up well enough.
this is the most pathetic wagon i have ever seen
I think Tree is town - a VI. There is no conniving in his posts. A lot of players, present company included, play around too much at gamestart.
I don't quite understand why it'sthisshow of excess that generates a wagon rather than my own or others, except that Majiffy has decided so and there are enough weaker players around to go with it.
I don't mean them individually. I mean all together.WIP-
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In post 497, Psyche wrote:I think majiffy's push on tree is fabricated. It makes sense for an RVS-ending vote, but somehow we've made it to page twenty and he still acts relatively confident that tree's pretty bland couple of fakeclaim ploys make him scum. It would be okay if he were just egging it on for tactical reasons, but I just have no doubt reading his posts that he'd be happy if tree died right now.
At this point, I think he continues to tunnel on tree just because 1) it's easier to act through than it is to look soberly at what he's doing and what could be done, and 2) tree is really easy to push and is the sort of player likely to dig his own grave. And I'm asking his sheep about the wagon so I can see if anyone else is following suit, or if theactualscum carrying out this really cliched approach to D1 is one of those. It seems pretty likely to me that the tree wagon is just too shitty not to be astroturfed.
I know I'm fooling around a lot, but it's because I can, because it's harmless. But I didn't join the game for the captive audience.
Quite frankly tree dug his own grave by trying to gambit twice, ESPECIALLY and SPECIFICALLY his IC claim.
I disagree with you on your current majiffy read, weren't you following the flowchart and sheeping majiffy 10 pages ago anyway?
I've got him as relatively neutral, slightly leaning town.WIP-
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In post 597, PeregrineV wrote:In post 590, Majiffy wrote:In post 583, PeregrineV wrote:In post 580, Majiffy wrote:Def not a great post but other tn podts merit z scumread more than that.
Treevote plox.
His other 4 posts following that were Tree is scum because he gambitted twice. Which, given 240, make them null, and almost confirms Tree as town.
Your reasons are wrong. Already proved so.
My reasons for thinking Tree is town if tn5421 is scum?
No, he has the same weak reason you do, but he tried to support it by quoting the posts where tree gambitted, then repeating it.
Fooling around is fine.
Fakeclaiming and pretending to be a dayvig AND an innocent child in the same day is not ok.
This is a matter of policy to me, and I don't care if I have to become your top scumread as long as I get them (tree and reinoe, the heavy gambit users) lynched first.
In post 598, gameplay506 wrote:I dont need to replace out simply because I dont know anything more. Also I am not bluffing simply because Wake asked me not to talk about what I know. And to add to it my thoughts were kinda proved wrong. Wake gave me peemission to quote this:
Expert level quote there.WIP-
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In post 639, Aegor wrote:In post 631, tn5421 wrote:On one hand: WTF Aegor?
On the other: Appreciate the honesty and the fact that you're back now.
I was on a retreat and had very limited access. Also, 26 pages in 3-4 days is outrageous. Anyway, expect something tomorrow.
No worries, we're not really close to lynching anyone right now.WIP-
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In post 648, Titus wrote:In post 646, Mirhawk wrote:This is your fault titus.
ZOMG! Superscum here. Blaming me for things when I wasn't here.
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Since when does titus making sense = scum? (@titus, not mirhawk)WIP-
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In post 664, Psyche wrote:I can't believe that the top wagon is tree.
I can't believe you faked replacing out.
>inb4 i can't believe its not butter, believe me i can.WIP-
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In post 679, notscience wrote:In post 672, farside22 wrote:Why is texcat a town read ?
He's not a townread
But the vote on him just felt really strange
It was reachy as fuck
The fuck is this, mahjong?
In post 683, Aeronaut wrote:In post 682, texcat wrote:In post 678, Aeronaut wrote:
You keep saying your voting me because of "my interactions" which you didn't like, but what exactly didn't you like about them? Just saying "I didn't like the interactions" doesn't give information to help anybody.
I think Elyse said it better than I could.
In post 464, Elyse wrote:
No. You said you would be down for a tree lynch and then changed your mind 10 posts later because you said people like reinoe hopped on for bad reasons. Then I pointed out you said that before reinoe hopped on, so you said it was because you didn't like how Majiffy was pushing him. Then I pointed out Majiffy only said "now vote tree" in between those posts and you now say "yeah, that and the like" and there are no other posts in between that can constitute as "the like".
In post 466, Elyse wrote:And? I'm talking about two specific posts not even a page apart with drastically different opinions and no reasons to back them up.
In post 469, Elyse wrote:And I'm not scumreading you because it's "convenient". It's because you can't explain your actions and become aggressive when pressured for no reason other than you're being a dick and trying to make me out like the bad guy.
So to be clear, you're just latching onto her argument instead of giving your actual opinion?
Indeed, the least you (texcat) could do is at least state the reasons in your own words, even if its a rehash of the same old thing.
In post 686, Aeronaut wrote:In post 684, texcat wrote:In addition, there was your first read of TN as town which you couldn't explain when Majiffy questioned you about it. I think whiffling, as Majiffy calls it, is not good.
In the conversation with Elyse, you continued asking her for her reads even after she had told you. You seemed to be trying to divert her attention off of you.
Lol, that wasn't Majiffy. That was Mirhawk.
Shows how much you've actually been paying attention.
In post 688, Aeronaut wrote:In post 685, texcat wrote:But yeah, I believe in latching onto good arguments.
It seems to me like you're just skimming the game and latching on to the first thing you see. You didn't even say I was scummy yourself. You actually had to quote someone else's reasons because you don't have any of your own.
VOTE: Tex
As far as I'm concerned, Oka is still scum, but at least he's trying to explain his flawed reasoning. You're just sheeping up the wazoo.
The lower the effort, the stronger the scumread?
Not always accurate, but it makes sense in this context.
Is nobody going to comment on how Titus was using The Light to keep up-to-date on the game without being required to participate or having players meta her during and/or slightly after RVS?WIP-
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In post 710, Majiffy wrote:In post 703, tn5421 wrote:
Is nobody going to comment on how Titus was using The Light to keep up-to-date on the game without being required to participate or having players meta her during and/or slightly after RVS?
I have no idea what the fuckanyof this is. Or what Titus' whole "I am the light" post was about. I imagine that probably goes for everyone else who is ignoring it.
So why don't you go ahead and explain since you seem to grok it enough to have a problem with it?
Titus wanted to observe us togain reads without being required to give any information out in return. In essence, getting something for nothing.
Titus has a fair idea of where we all stand on the current issues and yet we know NOTHING of Titus's reads on us.
If you can't see the problem with this then we might have a bigger problem on our hands.WIP-
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In post 859, Aeronaut wrote:In post 851, Majiffy wrote:Maybe you missed the part where he's compromising with me on Tree today.
But that would require reading the thread, something a good percentage of this game apparently has no idea how to do.
What happens if Tree flips town?
Then we lose a VI; no big deal in my opinion.WIP-
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In post 863, farside22 wrote:In post 860, tn5421 wrote:In post 859, Aeronaut wrote:In post 851, Majiffy wrote:Maybe you missed the part where he's compromising with me on Tree today.
But that would require reading the thread, something a good percentage of this game apparently has no idea how to do.
What happens if Tree flips town?
Then we lose a VI; no big deal in my opinion.
If I wAnted a vi lynch I'd vote you or Pere first.
>ignores known gambit whore
>ignores bullshit IC / dayvig claim
>would rather push town and some dude named Pear (sry peregrine)
>kWIP-
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In post 866, farside22 wrote:In post 864, tn5421 wrote:In post 863, farside22 wrote:In post 860, tn5421 wrote:In post 859, Aeronaut wrote:In post 851, Majiffy wrote:Maybe you missed the part where he's compromising with me on Tree today.
But that would require reading the thread, something a good percentage of this game apparently has no idea how to do.
What happens if Tree flips town?
Then we lose a VI; no big deal in my opinion.
If I wAnted a vi lynch I'd vote you or Pere first.
>ignores known gambit whore
>ignores bullshit IC / dayvig claim
>would rather push town and some dude named Pear (sry peregrine)
>k
I'm sorry, correct me if I'm wrong but weren't you a hydra in the large game were wake did his gambit?
I don't see Wake fakeclaiming IC and pretending to dayvig people.
The difference between then and now is I was fairly confident that Wake was town, but I can't say the same thing for tree/reinoe.WIP-
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In post 878, Psyche wrote:a reinoe/tn feud
EXCUSE ME?
THIS IS AN A <-> B CONVERSATION, C YOUR WAY OUT, D.WIP-
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In post 882, reinoe wrote:And I'm seeing it this game.
You want to lynch me for being a "gambit whore". Ok, except...here are the people who have performed gambits or made fakeclaims...
2x tree
Majiffy
Titus vis TheLight (not posting to see what happens)
Yet you're pushing my lynch (or at least you were) and you insist that I'm going to perform a gambit any minute now. There's no consistency to your suspicion of me and you're not outlining what, if anything I've done this game.
I'm actively voting tree. I'm not terribly happy with majiffy or Titus right now, and you've seen me take a stance on Titus.
Not sure exactly what Majiffy did to be honest, mind quoting it at me?WIP-
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In post 908, Majiffy wrote:In post 904, tn5421 wrote:I'm actively voting tree. I'm not terribly happy with majiffy or Titus right now, and you've seen me take a stance on Titus.
Not sure exactly what Majiffy did to be honest, mind quoting it at me?
Why are you on a wagon being pushed almost entirely by a person you are "not terribly happy" with?
Because as not-happy as I am, you're making sense.WIP-
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In post 912, tree wrote:In post 902, Majiffy wrote:In post 900, farside22 wrote:Like I said I fought for pages with him.
He truely see's nothing wrong with what he says.
Neither does anyone else. Except for {Psyche, Aero, farside}.
Hm.
everyone else is an idiot then
bye I'm gone to church
Because an ad hominem is going to make me move my vote.WIP-
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In post 917, reinoe wrote:In post 904, tn5421 wrote:In post 882, reinoe wrote:And I'm seeing it this game.
You want to lynch me for being a "gambit whore". Ok, except...here are the people who have performed gambits or made fakeclaims...
2x tree
Majiffy
Titus vis TheLight (not posting to see what happens)
Yet you're pushing my lynch (or at least you were) and you insist that I'm going to perform a gambit any minute now. There's no consistency to your suspicion of me and you're not outlining what, if anything I've done this game.
I'm actively voting tree. I'm not terribly happy with majiffy or Titus right now, and you've seen me take a stance on Titus.
Not sure exactly what Majiffy did to be honest, mind quoting it at me?
That was a mistake on my part. It was notscience and not majiffy.
notscience faked turning majiffy into a kingmaker.
He's on my shitlist, but he's less important RN than tree/titus/yourselfWIP-
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In post 923, tree wrote:In post 913, tn5421 wrote:In post 912, tree wrote:In post 902, Majiffy wrote:In post 900, farside22 wrote:Like I said I fought for pages with him.
He truely see's nothing wrong with what he says.
Neither does anyone else. Except for {Psyche, Aero, farside}.
Hm.
everyone else is an idiot then
bye I'm gone to church
Because an ad hominem is going to make me move my vote.
but how else did majiffy get anyone to submit to his insanity!?
unless you're the real scum here pushing on a shitty "scumtell"!!!
omgus level reasoningWIP-
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In post 1006, Alina wrote:Okay but the goal of the game isn't "convince Majiffy" it's "lynch scum". Are you seriously saying that you'd lynch town just to appease Majiffy?
In post 1007, notscience wrote:yes
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In post 993, Alina wrote:no really
why not think for yourself
the logic of half of the people in this game is making me want to cut myself
nooooooooo don't do it
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In post 1022, PeregrineV wrote:In post 629, tn5421 wrote:In post 597, PeregrineV wrote:In post 590, Majiffy wrote:In post 583, PeregrineV wrote:In post 580, Majiffy wrote:Def not a great post but other tn podts merit z scumread more than that.
Treevote plox.
His other 4 posts following that were Tree is scum because he gambitted twice. Which, given 240, make them null, and almost confirms Tree as town.
Your reasons are wrong. Already proved so.
My reasons for thinking Tree is town if tn5421 is scum?
No, he has the same weak reason you do, but he tried to support it by quoting the posts where tree gambitted, then repeating it.
Fooling around is fine.
Fakeclaiming and pretending to be a dayvig AND an innocent child in the same day is not ok.
This is amatter of policyto me, and I don't care if I have to become your top scumread as long as I get them (tree and reinoe, the heavy gambit users)lynched first.
So you don't think Tree is scum, but want him policy lynched?
I think there is achancehe is scum. And I want him dead.
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This is going in my sig when this game is over.
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In post 1127, Aeronaut wrote:In post 1126, farside22 wrote:Tn is scummy
That's some cracker-jack reasoning you got there.
Didn't he FoS me on a crappy reason too?
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In post 1131, farside22 wrote:In post 538, tn5421 wrote:In post 497, Psyche wrote:I think majiffy's push on tree is fabricated. It makes sense for an RVS-ending vote, but somehow we've made it to page twenty and he still acts relatively confident that tree's pretty bland couple of fakeclaim ploys make him scum. It would be okay if he were just egging it on for tactical reasons, but I just have no doubt reading his posts that he'd be happy if tree died right now.
At this point, I think he continues to tunnel on tree just because 1) it's easier to act through than it is to look soberly at what he's doing and what could be done, and 2) tree is really easy to push and is the sort of player likely to dig his own grave. And I'm asking his sheep about the wagon so I can see if anyone else is following suit, or if theactualscum carrying out this really cliched approach to D1 is one of those. It seems pretty likely to me that the tree wagon is just too shitty not to be astroturfed.
I know I'm fooling around a lot, but it's because I can, because it's harmless. But I didn't join the game for the captive audience.
Quite frankly tree dug his own grave by trying to gambit twice, ESPECIALLY and SPECIFICALLY his IC claim.
I disagree with you on your current majiffy read, weren't you following the flowchart and sheeping majiffy 10 pages ago anyway?
I've got him as relatively neutral, slightly leaning town.
In post 629, tn5421 wrote:In post 597, PeregrineV wrote:In post 590, Majiffy wrote:In post 583, PeregrineV wrote:In post 580, Majiffy wrote:Def not a great post but other tn podts merit z scumread more than that.
Treevote plox.
His other 4 posts following that were Tree is scum because he gambitted twice. Which, given 240, make them null, and almost confirms Tree as town.
Your reasons are wrong. Already proved so.
My reasons for thinking Tree is town if tn5421 is scum?
No, he has the same weak reason you do, but he tried to support it by quoting the posts where tree gambitted, then repeating it.
Fooling around is fine.
Fakeclaiming and pretending to be a dayvig AND an innocent child in the same day is not ok.
This is a matter of policy to me, and I don't care if I have to become your top scumread as long as I get them (tree and reinoe, the heavy gambit users) lynched first.
In post 598, gameplay506 wrote:I dont need to replace out simply because I dont know anything more. Also I am not bluffing simply because Wake asked me not to talk about what I know. And to add to it my thoughts were kinda proved wrong. Wake gave me peemission to quote this:
Expert level quote there.
In post 635, tn5421 wrote:On one hand, I'm glad we're all on the tree wagon, but following reinoe to do so?
What has this world come to? :3
In post 703, tn5421 wrote:In post 679, notscience wrote:In post 672, farside22 wrote:Why is texcat a town read ?
He's not a townread
But the vote on him just felt really strange
It was reachy as fuck
The fuck is this, mahjong?
In post 683, Aeronaut wrote:In post 682, texcat wrote:In post 678, Aeronaut wrote:
You keep saying your voting me because of "my interactions" which you didn't like, but what exactly didn't you like about them? Just saying "I didn't like the interactions" doesn't give information to help anybody.
I think Elyse said it better than I could.
In post 464, Elyse wrote:
No. You said you would be down for a tree lynch and then changed your mind 10 posts later because you said people like reinoe hopped on for bad reasons. Then I pointed out you said that before reinoe hopped on, so you said it was because you didn't like how Majiffy was pushing him. Then I pointed out Majiffy only said "now vote tree" in between those posts and you now say "yeah, that and the like" and there are no other posts in between that can constitute as "the like".
In post 466, Elyse wrote:And? I'm talking about two specific posts not even a page apart with drastically different opinions and no reasons to back them up.
In post 469, Elyse wrote:And I'm not scumreading you because it's "convenient". It's because you can't explain your actions and become aggressive when pressured for no reason other than you're being a dick and trying to make me out like the bad guy.
So to be clear, you're just latching onto her argument instead of giving your actual opinion?
Indeed, the least you (texcat) could do is at least state the reasons in your own words, even if its a rehash of the same old thing.
In post 686, Aeronaut wrote:In post 684, texcat wrote:In addition, there was your first read of TN as town which you couldn't explain when Majiffy questioned you about it. I think whiffling, as Majiffy calls it, is not good.
In the conversation with Elyse, you continued asking her for her reads even after she had told you. You seemed to be trying to divert her attention off of you.
Lol, that wasn't Majiffy. That was Mirhawk.
Shows how much you've actually been paying attention.
In post 688, Aeronaut wrote:In post 685, texcat wrote:But yeah, I believe in latching onto good arguments.
It seems to me like you're just skimming the game and latching on to the first thing you see. You didn't even say I was scummy yourself. You actually had to quote someone else's reasons because you don't have any of your own.
VOTE: Tex
As far as I'm concerned, Oka is still scum, but at least he's trying to explain his flawed reasoning. You're just sheeping up the wazoo.
The lower the effort, the stronger the scumread?
Not always accurate, but it makes sense in this context.
Is nobody going to comment on how Titus was using The Light to keep up-to-date on the game without being required to participate or having players meta her during and/or slightly after RVS?
In post 716, tn5421 wrote:In post 710, Majiffy wrote:In post 703, tn5421 wrote:
Is nobody going to comment on how Titus was using The Light to keep up-to-date on the game without being required to participate or having players meta her during and/or slightly after RVS?
I have no idea what the fuckanyof this is. Or what Titus' whole "I am the light" post was about. I imagine that probably goes for everyone else who is ignoring it.
So why don't you go ahead and explain since you seem to grok it enough to have a problem with it?
Titus wanted to observe us togain reads without being required to give any information out in return. In essence, getting something for nothing.
Titus has a fair idea of where we all stand on the current issues and yet we know NOTHING of Titus's reads on us.
If you can't see the problem with this then we might have a bigger problem on our hands.
In post 904, tn5421 wrote:In post 882, reinoe wrote:And I'm seeing it this game.
You want to lynch me for being a "gambit whore". Ok, except...here are the people who have performed gambits or made fakeclaims...
2x tree
Majiffy
Titus vis TheLight (not posting to see what happens)
Yet you're pushing my lynch (or at least you were) and you insist that I'm going to perform a gambit any minute now. There's no consistency to your suspicion of me and you're not outlining what, if anything I've done this game.
I'm actively voting tree. I'm not terribly happy with majiffy or Titus right now, and you've seen me take a stance on Titus.
Not sure exactly what Majiffy did to be honest, mind quoting it at me?
Long quote wall and here is what my issues are:
Tn: vote on tree is garbage gambit bulkshit, that he doesn't explain why is scum.
He follows the logic on texcat but just move into tree still egging on that wagon.
Next we have the comment about Titus doing some ulterior shit that makes no sense and looks to be storing thing up in that post for no reason.
Doesn't trust jiffy but stays on wagon, then lolilikililol
In short tn is holding a vote on tree for gambit purposes, stirs the pot with scum reads like texcat and Titus but hold his vote doing nothing more but giggling around the vi.
In order for us to not lose the game on one person's say so, I am doing what I can to ensure all gambiters are lynched. If reinoe wagon had taken off today I would be on it, and if tree flips today I'll be pushing reinoe unless I have a clear scumread on someone.
The point is, even if tree/reinoe are town, they arenegative utilitytown that actually benefits us to have removed.
I don't really trust jiffy, but our current goals are in alignment. Don't you have to work with people you don't necessarily trust at work IRL?
I'm considering adding "Titus pulling another gambit" to my mafia cardcast deck. I still maintain that she used The Light to have an excuse to view the game without getting suspicion based on her meta or being required to interact/defend.
I don't honestly remember what I said about texcat so clearly it wasn't very notable.WIP-
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In post 1324, Titus wrote:
Dude, so meta. :-p
Not scum here. Seriously, you got drunk Titus. Take advantage of me. You see me town.
owo
I'm not sure I'm cut out for this size of game.
How come you don't like me in this game?
In post 1301, shaddowez wrote:While I'm going through this, could someone please explain to me what a chainsaw defense is? I've seen a few of you use the term, and have no clue what it means.
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In post 1337, Titus wrote:In post 1336, OkaPoka wrote:Praise Majiffy?
Majiffy's a decent guy and good at not getting himself lynched. A great scumhunter... no.
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In post 1349, Titus wrote:There's a difference between "not a perfect fit" and disavowing the clear meaning of what you just said.
You can die tomorrow.
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In post 1355, Titus wrote:Finally, someone I fucking like shows up.
Wow, that cuts deep.
I'd like to think that we're kinda-friends, but this is mafia. If you let friendship get in the way you'll lose.WIP-
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In post 1357, Titus wrote:Dude, that was all in the context of the fucking game.
I like you outside of the game. In this game, you have a scum role PM.
Actually, I don't, but I assume you mean "I assume everyone but me has a scum role pm" rather than you talking about me specifically.
I can't believe all these people voting Aero like he's scum.
If he's scum I will literally sheep reinoe for therest of the game.WIP-
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In post 1369, Alina wrote:Gameplay those are actually good points. Okay. I'll look closer at everything tomorrow. My brain is fried.
UNVOTE: Aeronaut
And I'm not voting him because of his softclaim. That thing is null to me.
My comment was directed at Mirhawk in particular :<WIP-
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In post 120, shaddowez wrote:So, initial thoughts - anyone whose name can be abbreviated to PerV must be town
Since the group of us from our last game seem to be voting for each other,
VOTE: Aero
I'll be going through the pages of stuff I managed to miss is less than 12 hours and (hopefully) posting more content in a bit.
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In post 439, Elyse wrote:In post 218, Aeronaut wrote:Elyse, do you have reads besides this?
At that point, no. Did you?
@RoyalApe
I'm done pursuing this vote further because obviously it's now starting to cause more harm than good.
But your "question" to me "Are you defending Oka" seemed rhetoric because of the "should I be poking you" and "HMMMMM?". That's why I posted those two separately.
In post 259, reinoe wrote:In post 216, Elyse wrote:It's ok though because we're out of RVS! (Despite reinoe and co trying to keep us in it)
Now when you all realize that voting me for pressuring an RVS vote is stupid, we can get on with the game. If you seriously think scum would do this and try to ride it out to a lynch on RoyalApe, then lol ok.
lulz at the fakeness here.
VOTE: Elyse
[notscience, TSO, Elyse]
Explain.
I agree with tree wrt feeling like we're still in RVS. And saying that he feels that way doesn't mean he's keeping us in there, Aeronaut.
In post 301, Aeronaut wrote:Eh...I think Reinoe is probably town. Honestly. Scum Reinoe is serious and focused, and that's just not what we have here.He does like to change playstyles I guess, but either way it's null.
Town or null?
In post 410, Aeronaut wrote:Psyche, you literally don't make sense ever.
I'd be down with a tree lynch, but I'm not feeling good about Oka.The aggressiveness rubs me wrong, and it sort of feels like he's trying way to hard to make it look like he's scumhunting.
That's how I feel about you actually.
In post 427, Aeronaut wrote:
@People voting tree: I'm not really sure that a crappy IC claim is enough to lynch someone. What else has tree done that's really scummy?
Wait you literally just said in the post I quoted above that you'd be down with a tree lynch.
UNVOTE:
VOTE: Aeronaut
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In post 470, texcat wrote:I have been reading along, but haven't understood half of what is going on. Tree made a couple of quickly disproven fake claims that I can't see the purpose for. And I can't see the motivation for it from either a scum or a town. Although I will say that it seemed to generate quite a bit of conversation.
The recent interactions between Aero and Elyse have convinced me to
VOTE: Aeronaut
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In post 1074, Aeronaut wrote:In post 1073, notscience wrote:In post 1069, Aeronaut wrote:Oooh is it me?
Nah, scum like you have reasons for shitty reads
You say I'm scum, but you're voting someone you think is town... Hmmm...
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In post 1302, Mirhawk wrote:In post 1112, T S O wrote:But can't we lynch Aeronaut today and tree tomorrow?
Because I give a 30% estimate of tree being scum, but Aeronaut is around double that.
This is pretty close to the way I feel on this.
@Aero
It would save a lot of time if you just claimed now. I'm not going elsewhere until that softclaim nonsense has been resolved.
In post 1119, Psyche wrote:
ughhh
on a side note do you know how much votes formatted like so remove all hope of automated anything
Geez, the top line was supposed to be unvote and the first word of the second line should have been vote.
Man I screwed that up.
Unvote
Vote: Aero
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In post 1359, Alina wrote:This is probably L-2.
VOTE: Aeronaut
It miiiiight be L-1. I'm bad at counting.I'm not sure. So be careful.
WELP, FORGOT THIS ONEWIP-
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In post 1402, notscience wrote:@tn- I've repeatedly been asked for reasons why I'm voting him and have given them. Don't just quote the "naked" vote and pretend there is nothing else behind it.
@Alina- Derp? Really? Bite me.
@Psyche- Bite me.
@TSO- Why are you looking the most sane this game? Don't we normally butt heads >.>
I didn't feel like quoting every single one of your one-line posts.
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In post 1407, Aegor wrote:In post 1389, texcat wrote:
scum
Aeronaut flipflops, aggressive under pressure
omguscum
Aegor
farside And her recent change to TN is ?
So your scum candidates are the one person that everyone is voting and the two people who think you are scum?
@everyone:Please explain to me why texcat should be kept alive. I am really not seeing it.
@farside:Time to vote texcat again.
@RoyalApe:Give me your thoughts on the Aero wagon. Also tell me your current Elyse read and who your top scumreads are.
The only thing I can say in texcat's favor is that he isn't a high priority right now.
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In post 1429, Elyse wrote:I'll read that entire wall later when I have the energy
but
I WANT TO GET YOU TO L-1 TO CLAIM BECAUSE YOU'VE BEEN SOFTCLAIMING LIKE A MOTHERFUCKER AND IT'S SCARING SOME IDIOTS FROM VOTING YOU EVEN THOUGH YOU ARE OBVIOUSLY SCUM.
I hate to tell you this but I'm pretty sure he's town.
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In post 1435, notscience wrote:Hypothetical.
There's a scum
Let's just call him Aeronaut
He softclaims a role.
We make him claim
He claims tracker.
Now, we have a townie, lets just call him jimmy
Jimmy's a tracker and CCs him
We have confscum now!
It doesn't work like that in a closed setup. VI confirmed. (hoping HL3 confirmed too)
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In post 1454, Majiffy wrote:Reinoe
alina
T S O
notscience
Shaddowez
Elyse
These people are basically conf town and if you don't like it you can just shut the fuck up because your opinion is invalid.
No, over half of this list is scummy, Alina is the only person I'd feel safe considering conftown.
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In post 1490, Aeronaut wrote:In post 1487, notscience wrote:Who else is in the hood
Are you seriously asking that? C'mon now.
lolwat
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In post 1495, notscience wrote:The fact he claimed in a hood with more than just 1 other person is a scumclaim.
The fact that you're pushing this deliberate misunderstanding is a scumclaim from you. Give me one good reason why I shouldn't ISO you and report every single one-line post to the moderation team.
Go on. I'm waiting.
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In post 1513, Titus wrote:In post 1492, T S O wrote:Why would scum-notscience give a shit?
Why would town notscience out that Aero claimed RB when it could be used to see who "slipped" knowing that information given neighborhoods have day chat it's logical to conclude scum do too.
Someone having too much knowledge = scumslip.
This is why NS doesn't get the girl.
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In post 1521, Majiffy wrote:In post 1515, Titus wrote:In post 1506, Majiffy wrote:I will consider any future neighbor claim that isn't done in the player's next post as a scumclaim.
Let's see here, does your bullying apply to any particular neighborhood or just any neighborhood. Not a fan of the fish here.
I don't know why you're assuming multiple neighborhoods. But I'm specifically referring to the gameplay/Aero neighborhood.
Also there's no fish there. You're an idiot.
Wake has a fetish for multiple neighborhoods. It's reasonable to assume there is probably more than one.
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People do this in closed?
Really?
Yet another confirmed VI, possibly even scum.
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In post 1560, T S O wrote:I am putting a proposal to the mod.
Veto my vote for today: silence Gameplay for 48 hours.
You can do that?
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In post 1563, Aeronaut wrote:Bolding it so skimmers can see.
I am a Town-Aligned Gunsmith. I investigate a person every night, and then I get either "Gun" or "No Gun". That is my role., it's sort of lame.
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In post 1565, Titus wrote:That is not fucking lame....
VOTE: Aeronaut
Don't care if it's hammer. No one thinks a copish role is lame. That if it wasn't bullshit, a) confirms a vigilante and b) gives anyone negatively guiltied only a fake claim of vig.
Aeronaut's play is also not consistent. Cops and Copish roles generally want to keep their head down until necessary.
This seems like a CC fish.
You really want to claim scum without actually claiming don't you?
Gunsmith can misfire on cops and vigs, why else call it lame?
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In post 1615, Elyse wrote:In post 1592, gameplay506 wrote:You deserve this Elyse:
VOTE: Elyse
Call it a placeholder vote. Call it whatever you like. But if you are town you should just know that by your idiotic push you outed 2 presumably town pr's. And now when Aero claimed pr you go like "oh really you were a pr I didnt know, sorry unvoting you". Literally wtf. Leaving my vote here at least for the night.
Pedit@ reinoe I already answered that one. Mainly leaning on Psyche, Mir and Tso. Maji and NS arent good either.
Shut the fuck up. I'm done with you and your elitist attitude.
I did not force Aero to claim.I wanted to just run him up as usual but he decided to softclaimwhich is so antitown I can't even start. Then he said "welp I'm a PR" which again sucks.
Ihad nothing to do with Josh outing his role anddidn't even think Aero claimed roleblocker.
Ibacked off of Aero because gunsmith is a testable claim and if he is town, scum will want to kill him sooner than later. I'm not stupid.
Youshould stop blaming everything on me because it's not my fault and I'm fucking obvtown. I also want you to know that there's a good chance there's scum in your neighborhood and I'm coming after you next.
You should probably stop lying then. Bolded so you can't pretend to not understand.
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In post 1620, Titus wrote:In post 1617, Elyse wrote:Titus what the fuck? Like even if you think he's lying (which I totally understand), the optimal play is not to lynch him.
I don't understand what you're doing this game. This isn't town-you.
Town me is not understood.
Think...would scum try to lynch a gunsmith with follow the cop not being possible on mafiascum.
And how do you know that it isn't possible? The last time I checked the setup is CLOSED, which means we have NO IDEA what roles are in play.
HOW IS IT THAT YOU POSSESS THIS INSIDER KNOWLEDGE IF YOU AREN'T SCUM?
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In post 1622, Titus wrote:Then my read tonight will prove it.
Not moving from Aero. This is a Tunnel.
Lynching claimed Town PR's, especially testable ones, might as well be you scumclaiming.
You are going to die today if I have ANYTHING to say about it.
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In post 1631, Psyche wrote:sighhh
what is this peculiar tendency of people to demonize people who disagree with them?
Out Of Character - Out Of Game:
I believe it is simply called "dehumanization".
Take a look-see: http://general.utpb.edu/fac/hughes_j/Ha ... zation.pdfWIP-
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In post 1638, Aegor wrote:The last ten pages almost made me vomit from anger.
There was no point whatsoever to running Aero up; his softclaim should have been ignored from the beginning.
Josh's CC made absolutely no sense. Way to suck.
Titus' vote after the claim was...there are no words.
Still want to lynch texcat. Would be fine lynching Titus.
As I said earlier, texcat is a low priority lynch, one that I'm willing to compromise to if I can't get my primary reads {Titus, NotScience} dealt with.
In post 1641, Psyche wrote:he wasnt run up for the softclaim
Not for a lack of trying.WIP-
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In post 1648, Elyse wrote:In post 1644, Aegor wrote:In post 1641, Psyche wrote:he wasnt run up for the softclaim
Yes, he was. Explicitly.
Then you need to go back to a first grade reading class. No one except for Mirhawk joined his wagon because of the softclaim.
This is directly contradictory to the following:
In post 1649, Aegor wrote:In post 1429, Elyse wrote:I WANT TO GET YOU TO L-1 TO CLAIM BECAUSE YOU'VE BEEN SOFTCLAIMING LIKE A MOTHERFUCKER AND IT'S SCARING SOME IDIOTS FROM VOTING YOU EVEN THOUGH YOU ARE OBVIOUSLY SCUM.
So which is it, little liar?
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In post 1652, Elyse wrote:That's not why he was run up. He was run up for being scummy.
And once the softclaim is out there, you can't just ignore it and pretend it doesn't exist. It needs to be dealt with. I'm done with your shitty attitude though.
I'm done with you lying to town.
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In post 1658, T S O wrote:For the record: I'm not sure I'll ever support an Elyse wagon. I find her both incredibly town in this game, and I also find her to be a very strong player. If I was scum with her, which I have been, she would be my #1 target for a nightkill.
So I can safely ignore you because your opinions are completely irrelevant, then.WIP-
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In post 1664, Josh_B wrote:In post 1657, Aeronaut wrote:Alright, I actually don't agree with Aegor here. Elyse and NS helped, but ultimately it was my decision to claim. I don't understand why Josh would claim. That's not anyone's fault but his own.
It's easy to know why I claimed.
Gameplay says that he and Aero are on a hidden team and there is one more person on the team with them.
We already know that Aero is a PR.
NotSci claims that the PR is Role Blocker,
Gameplay seems upset that Aero's role is outed, and doesn't deny the RB claim.
I am actually a Role Blocker- This is a two for one special, even if I die in the night, and the third member isn't identified, we have two known scums, that can be vigged or PL'd in succession.
I wish we didn't have to trade Town PRs for them though.WIP-
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