Open 36: Picking Simplicity - Game over!

[JDodge]

Vote: Yogurt

[JDodge]

Unvote, vote: kravhen

I R BUSSING YOU WITH OMGUS

[JDodge]

BANDWAGON

Unvote, vote: Goat

YAY RHYMING

[JDodge]

Unvote, vote: Doctor Kisses

[JDodge]

Heh, I think about theory and strategy quite a bit. I was just throwing out thoughts that I had, since I don't have any strong suspicions yet. I want to contribute as much as I can to the game.

Not helping by giving scum strategies.

[JDodge]

Nice catch.

Unvote, Vote: AmeliaLi

[JDodge]

FoS:distad, JDodge

for voting still randomly, on the 4th page. Seriously, can we all act our age?

Unvote, Vote: Nocmen

That made you painfully obvious.

[JDodge]

Vote: JDodge

For serial vote hopping.

Ask yourself; is that scummy in this context, when all but one of these votes was random?

[JDodge]

I meant two. Typo.

[JDodge]

I find the speed with which my wagon grew to be rather odd.

[JDodge]

I'm thinking JDodge and distad are being a bit too eager to jump on what's probably just a typo

vote: JDodge

Why are you singling out JDodge? distad was pushing a lot harder against AmeliaLi than JDodge was.

JDodge has ben jumping his votes around a lot and while I think distad's catch is pretty flimsy, I find it less suspicious that he'd vote on it himself than JDodge's getting on board with it, then going straight onto Nocmen saying that he'd made himself 'painfully obvious'. It just looks to me like JDodge is trying to cause as much suspicion as possible.

O RLY?

Vote-hopping = sparking discussion in the random vote stage
Nocmen = painfully obvious

[JDodge]

Nocmen still should be lynched.

That's about it.

[JDodge]

WhoMe? and Amelia are distancing poorly.

Mod

: Vote count please.

[JDodge]

WhoMe? and Amelia are distancing poorly.

Mod

: Vote count please.

Do you ever get tired of being wrong?

For someone like me the fun of being wrong doesn't wear off over time.

Too bad I'm right this time.

[JDodge]

Still here. Nocmen still needs to be lynched.

[JDodge]

Still here. Nocmen still needs to be lynched.

Are you serious?

Yes.

[JDodge]

Still here. Nocmen still needs to be lynched.

Are you serious?

Yes.

Why?

Because he is the best play for today.

[JDodge]

Still here. Nocmen still needs to be lynched.

Are you serious?

Yes.

Why?

Because he is the best play for today.

He's been on two votes for quite a long time. Can't you find something better to do?

No, but either you or Amelia should be next. Preferably you. Especially for that.

[JDodge]

And I'll repeat this:

@JDodge: AFAICT, you are voting Nocmen for defending AmeliaLi, right? Then why aren't you voting Amelia, since she seems to be the one you found scummy in the first place?

You

assume

that's my only reasoning.

[JDodge]

Nocmen = painfully obvious

/.../

Still here. Nocmen still needs to be lynched.

/.../

Because he is the best play for today.

So what

is

your reasoning?

I choose not to share my reasonings at this time. I do not see where it could help anyone at the moment.

[JDodge]

Perhaps... but without providing this, it is being somewhat deceptive. While that is not necessarily anti-town, it is certainly not anti-scum. If you want us to side with you, you need to give us reason to do so.

That's nice.

You really have quite a bit to learn, don't you?

[JDodge]

I appreciate your condescending tone.

So, what you're saying is that I should roll over and let you throw your weight around without any justification for it? Yeah... that sounds like a great fucking idea.

Yes.

[JDodge]

All I'm saying, JDodge, is that I'd like a little more than just "that's the play for today". Assuming that I've only been playing the game since mid-July is not a fair conclusion.

I think we'd all like more than 'it's the play of the day'. I just want to know why. I want a reason.

That's nice.

[JDodge]

Jdodge I don't like your style. One-liners like that only stretch things for nothing, get people ticked off and in the end your lines dont even help town...
Hey wait, that's scummy!

Unvote, Vote: Jdodge

"Hi."
Indeed.

Gasp. How surprising. Yet another wagon on me because people refuse to go back and look at the history, instead choosing to go after me fruitlessly because I choose not to explain my suspicions.

[JDodge]

I think you should read Judgement Day. I'll go find the number soon. It was a mini theme.

[JDodge]

It was Mini 448.

[JDodge]

and just for the sake of balance you might want to read mini 465 Chinese New Year Mafia too.

i'll be the first to admit you use this style all the time, but i've seen you as scum and town with it.

Then why exactly are you going after me for it?

FoS: WhoMe?

Nocmen today. WhoMe tomorrow.

[JDodge]

the way I see it JDodge you use this style so you are camouflaged when you ARE scum. If you're not willing to cough up with your reasoning, then I'm quite happy to pressure you with a vote.

So because I

might be scum because I have used this as scum, ignoring the games where I have used it as town

, you're going to go after me for acting like I always do?

Doesn't this seem like complete and utter bullshit to anyone else? I mean, this whole line of reasoning is based on the fact that I'm

acting like I always do

. He admits that this is

normal

and is still

attacking it

.

[JDodge]

Also,

Unvote, vote: WhoMe

Nocmen can wait.

[JDodge]

But now I'm more inclined to put him under the light - it's bad to attack someone simply because of playstyle, but it would be even worse to *clear* someone simply based on playstyle, so I think WhoMe is right. If JD doesn't start helping town a little, I think we will either have to force him to, or otherwise just ignore him, because this way we are getting nowhere.

Nice try. I never said that it was a town-tell, which would be clearing me. Playstyle things that are independent of alignment are null-tells, yet WhoMe is treating it like a scum-tell.

Again, it's a playstyle that I change my mind at a moment's notice if I feel there's enough of a case. I really,

really

think you should read Minis 448 & 465 and then tell me that this is scummy.

[JDodge]

Nice try. I never said that it was a town-tell, which would be clearing me. Playstyle things that are independent of alignment are null-tells, yet WhoMe is treating it like a scum-tell.

ummmm no i'm not? I am trying to understand your fixation on nocmen. your reasoning there will lead towards an alignment decision on you.

O RLY?

[JDodge]

What I don't understand is how YogurtBandit is in this game, and doesn't have a wagon on him. Even if he's a townie, he is a liability to the game. Plus, he's a lurker. He's just way too lazy and in too many games to ever read this thread.

Unvote

Vote: YogurtBandit

Yeeeah, WhoMe? today, Rishi tomorrow. I'd even be willing to lynch Rishi today and leave WhoMe for tomorrow if that would work out better.

[JDodge]

And now I am curious about how JDodge totally changed his opinion on me? You've gone from "we need to lynch nocmen today" to "WhoMe? today" and now "Rishi today".

Make up your mind. Seriously.

Vote:JDodge

I'll tell you as soon as one of WhoMe or Rishi has been lynched. Seriously.

Kravhen, Rishi is saying that he wants to lynch someone with no actual evidence. You don't find this scummy?

[JDodge]

And now I am curious about how JDodge totally changed his opinion on me? You've gone from "we need to lynch nocmen today" to "WhoMe? today" and now "Rishi today".

Make up your mind. Seriously.

Vote:JDodge

I'll tell you as soon as one of WhoMe or Rishi has been lynched. Seriously.

Kravhen, Rishi is saying that he wants to lynch someone with no actual evidence. You don't find this scummy?

And your hunches towards me are not the same?

My hunches towards you were completely different.

[JDodge]

Amelia = Not the play for today

Rishi or WhoMe. Preferably Rishi.

[JDodge]

I know you did. Did you only unvote because no one else was voting her? And are you only now revoting because others are jumping aboard?

Because that stinks. Just so you know.

No, it doesn't really stink. Perfectly reasonable, actually, going for a compromise.

But still, Amelia = play for tomorrow or D3, not today

[JDodge]

Harsh. Don't you care about a townie's feelings? <3 <3 <3
Your actions in this last page have oddly struck me as scummy..
You smell cummy, dude.

and you know Confused is town how exactly?

How do you know he's not? People need to stop reading my posts in such a way that they allow themselves to completely ignore the main point.
I was just assuming. And there's only one kind of people who don't care about breaking a townie's heart, and I call them scum.

Dun dun dun

So not being nice is a scumtell? That's a rather moronic opinion, really

[JDodge]

I'm a part-time hippy. Now what?

Moving on. Strangely those JDodge have suspected so far dont smell so nice.
WM in particular.

OMG I MIGHT BE - GASP - RIGHT!

[JDodge]

JDodge is acting weird. He makes it seem like he has 'inside information', saying 'he or she is the play for today. this or that is the play for tomorrow.' Maybe he has a special role, and is notifying us what he's going to do with his nightchoices.

STOP FISHING

FoS: WLC

[JDodge]

Ah, come on. Please post some more substantial posts with actual reasoning, and not just say 'he or she is the game for today'. And don't post all caps, even if it is one sentence.

Vote JDodge.

I find it moronic and illogical that you are going to vote for me for posting in all caps.

Different people have different playstyles, BTW. I suggest you learn to deal with it.

[JDodge]

I was not voting because you posted in caps. I voted for you because you posted a strange response with no more reasoning than two simple words to FOS me. I understand that this might be your playstyle. If I deal with it by voting for you, I suggest you deal with that yourself.

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

YOU JUST FREAKING ADMITTED THAT YOUR REASONING IS LIKELY NON-EXISTANT. AT LEAST I GAVE AN ACTUAL REASON.

[JDodge]

AMELIA = BAD PLAY FOR TODAY

RISHI/WHOME = GOOD PLAY FOR TODAY

[JDodge]

I think JDodge is turning into a parody of himself.

I also think someone is going to attack me for being "unhelpful." Meanwhile, no one else is posting anything of substance.

I'd classify you as helpful scum, you practically caught yourself

[JDodge]

And JDodge is still going strong... Don't know what to say, I tried to check out the referenced games earlier in the thread. Didn't read it all, but it looked like he was more open with his vote reasons in those games, compared to this one (couldn't be less informative, I guess...). So what about your new "plays", how did they get more important than Nocmen?

What part of "I'll tell you about Nocmen tomorrow" don't you understand?

[JDodge]

JDodge, could you please explain why you think your reasoning won't help anyone? Or is that already too much info for us?

Already too much, will say tomorrow, in the meantime don't lynch Amelia today. Lynch Rishi (preferred) or WhoMe.

[JDodge]

I think JDodge is turning into a parody of himself.

I also think someone is going to attack me for being "unhelpful." Meanwhile, no one else is posting anything of substance.

It's like he's expecting a vote, and when it happens he'll go all "*sigh* i knew it, boo hoo, im a poor victimmm"

That was a subtle scumtell, IMO. I dont see much of those kinds of statements.
Is there a deadline? When? I'm ok with a WhoMe lynch today so ill leave my vote on him in case deadline is realll soon and i dont get chance to repost later, but if I got time and support I'd like to vote Rishi. What do you guys think? Without your support my vote on Rishi would be meaningless at this point and in that case I'd rather just go with a WhoMe lynch.

I'd prefer a Rishi lynch to a WhoMe lynch, but either works for me. Amelia lynch = bad idea for today.

[JDodge]

Why must BM follow me everywhere. /disapprove.

oh god, another game with the legend that is BBB.

I'll reread and post content sometime soonish.

BM

Here's a quick summary.

Rishi, WhoMe, WLC and Amelia are the scum. WLC and Amelia are bad plays for today. Really bad plays. I would recommend a Rishi lynch over a WhoMe? lynch, but both work for me.

[JDodge]

JDodge - why isn't your vote on Rishi, then?

WhoMe has a larger wagon

[JDodge]

if we're all scum, why in tarnation would the order of lynching be important?

Because if I'm wrong on you two, the circumstances change for the others.

[JDodge]

DK, I've already told you I'll talk more about this tomorrow.

[JDodge]

AIMEE!

<3

[JDodge]

Ok I reread the last few pages and I can definitely see WhoMe? being scum. I'm more sure of Rishi but convinced enough about WhoMe? to change my vote.

Unvote; vote: WhoMe?

What does that mean? You're more sure about Rishi but more convinced about WhoMe? ??

Very odd.

Er, I think it means that he's more sure about Rishi but a WhoMe lynch is fine too. Y'know, basically the same thing I'm doing.

[JDodge]

Unvote, Vote Rishi

Rishi needs to die. Now.

[JDodge]

I'm trying to decide if Xtoxm really is an idiot who gets incredibly lucky or someone who just looks like an idiot but really has complete control over everything.