New York 180 (Endgame)

[Marquis]

oh ok

boon claimed mainly doc, but possibility of other PRs day 1

so pisskop had reason to roleblock boon, and tso had reason to kill boon

so piss died because he also visited boon?? i think

wow this solves things a lot more nicely

also this role is pretty far removed from normal role interactions so ugh tso got by only on the double kill there

[Marquis]

which means that it had to have been ns who doc'd viking against the mafia kill n1, which is further backed up by:

You're not supposed to be informed when you're saved...that means you're lying.

Is that the standard here?

Pretty much, yeah.

Not seeing a vote, NS.

Probably because I haven't voted yet.

[Marquis]

ika can you describe what tso's role specifically did? differences from normal sk?

I can. But the real question of "will I" is no.

Mass murder though is very much a real role.

This is a Normal game, though.

All flavor should be public; flavor is not allowed in Role PMs.

Role names should be standard

, or non-flavored if original.
Flavor should have no bearing on the game -

it should be possible for a player to read only the role reveals posted with the death scene and gain all information needed to play

. This information should be formatted to stand out from the flavor.

The restrictions on flavor also apply in this case. Flipping a player as "Mass Murderer" would also interpreted as a non-standard role name flip for a role that could be described using existing modifiers. Part of a Normal game is being able to know what a role does just based off of its flip and its name.

There is precedence to this in cases such as the introduction of the Babysitter role in an otherwise-Normal game by N himself.

[Marquis]

I mean, one of the main draws of a Normal game is just this, that when a role flips you know how it works and know that the mod isn't holding things back about its function.

[Marquis]

:/

I would never have known that nor even known where to look. I was still thinking I'd been proved wrong on the bulletproof count.

Still want a full official role explanation.

PEDIT Forgot about viking being roleblocked. But then who did NS protect if not for viking - did he claim it? I don't see a Non-Consecutive Doctor not protecting the claimed Cop while not knowing another Doctor existed in the setup.

[Marquis]

hm

[Marquis]

@ika please look at 6318? ty

Mass Murderer

That is all I'm giving. You can look at options to see what could and could not exist.

[Marquis]

I actually like Kitz for town again.

I'm also trying not to take a dragon and gm townread for granted. I think Kitz+dragon go into my middle category and gm into the bottom. Cheet moved to the top earlier.

[Marquis]

Feeling like this is also oversimplified town logic.

[Marquis]

I don't know why two scum would neighborhood me.

Clarification: I don't know why a scum-neighborizer would neighborize a town who is already in a separate neighborhood with a different scum.

this is a good point.

my pool for today is {shinobi, dragon}. i tried to remember why I've been townreading dragon as of late and all i could think of was that for some reason i was trusting a "conftown" tso's townread on him (despite his "scumread" on me).

i actually think one mafia left is the most accurate option though and i'm heavily leaning shinobi for that.

town on gc, cheet, kitz, and also gm but mostly for what gc pointed out with a bit of genuine posting earlier.

[Marquis]

Are you going to elaborate on your kitz read or no?

considering I'm driving in the rain and really shouldn't be posting this or the last post, later

[Marquis]

fuck okay that's a point

i'm staying on shinobi for last scum imo

still mobile bbl

[Marquis]

gc - conftown basically
cheet - genuine, now-involved town
dragon - position on ozgin lynch, actually rereading some recent things more like stubborn newbtown than newbscum
kitz - unguarded w/ bad logic in a town way - scum, even newbscum, i would be hard-pressed to say could be presenting themselves to the group in the way she has as of late. as paranoid as i have been of her faking newbtown the beginning of this day, i really don't see her recent posts as scum acting at all.
gm - genuine town neighborizer imo

and then

shinobi - ???, but rereading the kitz push it feels... wrong. like not just wrong readwise, but like "wow shinobi that feels like an opportunistic angle to push on kitz"

[Marquis]

kitz i think you're town

selfvoting is how town implodes

so stop

[Marquis]

your wall looks good but i'm not scum

go look at me in DoA again if you want

also i don't bus as scum especially since i was about to be lynched. i'm a team player, switching to aero there and how i did would just be a path to a loss/significantly more mislynches needed to win

and sorry for lurking! not really feeling this game right now

still holding shinobi up for scum via PoE

[Marquis]

What bothers me about this is that it implicitly should also cause Marquis to point the finger at Ozgin/House as well as FA, but he doesn't include that in his analysis which makes me feel like he was selectively focusing on FA rather than legitimately trying to sort through things.

well yeah

it was a case on fa

i quoted the things that mentioned fa and only commented on fa even if other mentions were quoted with it

[Marquis]

Did you and Aero even interact at all that game?

he literally told me he was my "partner" in his first post

i picked up on it right away and proceeded to defend him for bullshit reasons even when his slot seemed indefensible because him getting lynched day 1 would haved sucked so much; that's essentially like a 1-shot bp sk losing their vest on DAY 1, not even night 1.

i mean i even remember getting yelled at by anti for it and still trying to defend him anyway to at least spare him a day

[Marquis]

it's all or nothing

i either harddefend all of my partners or none of them

i think you fail to understand that this is a compulsion as scum that's hard for me to overcome and nearly impossible here comsidering my earlier feelings toward this game

[Marquis]

like if there were only one scum left i'd probably go down without a fight and just let you lynch me and move on

but the way balance is going i think gm's right on 5v2, 1 goon 1 nonconsec rb

[Marquis]

also i'm fairly sure kitz's experience/interpretation of mass murderer is spot on and explains the death history

i just dont know if its bp or not which is pretty much the only thing i wish ika would clarify

[Marquis]

There's also all of the bullshit he's been spouting today, flipping me from scum to town the moment I start getting engaged again.
His fucking weird hedgey read on Kitz.

also I hate being one of those players that says "that doesn't apply to me as scum"

but

well

it doesn't apply to me as scum :/ as town, i'm constantly going back on forth on my reads whether i want to be or not. i'm never sure, mostly because i don't have that much confidence in my towngame as opposed to my scumgame. in fact if it weren't for how lately i'm pretty sure i have a significantly better grip on what your towngame's like, i'd be surprised that i haven't flipped back and thought you were scum for attacking me again like this. but i've seen you as town and i'm confident enough that you're both town here and worth trying to change your read on me.

[Marquis]

what

i vaguely remember townreading him sometime earlier, don't remember why

then started scumreading him when it got to that "i keep forgetting he's in the game" point, combined with knowing some of cheet's town/probtown meta involved him being active and engaged

his early explanations didn't do much to sway me

then he made those last few posts like a page or two or three ago and i liked them

[Marquis]

Ok.. but since when do you have any experience with my scumgame? How can you say with this level of confidence that I'm town and you're not townreading me for null things? That doesn't make any sense to me -.-

i don't!

i'm trusting that with with 1-2 scum left, your current engagement and genuine-sounding posts regardless of meta come from town!

if you're scum you can try to prove me wrong if you want but i'm guessing that's not in your best interest!

[Marquis]

it's more like that set of 3 posts i like earlier were so so so town and genuine on their own and from what i know of your towngame they just synced to help with that read more

like even now i'm seeing that town-and-i-know-i-am mindset i was constantly yelling at tso for not having

[Marquis]

wow you suck
why does everyone keep misrepresentating my reads
like
ugh

[Marquis]

misrepresenting*
incomplete autocorrect correction

[Marquis]

i am pretty unmotivated to build a long and coherent shinobi case in the same way that i was for the last day of the tso case.

[Marquis]

the case was that he wasn't town

you still seem quite hung up over my very initial idea of you two "driving a scumteam" together. i don't really remember even suggesting that kind of alliance past beginning of day 5.

i'm hoping it stuck in your mind because you actually are scum, but just didn't want to be painted together with tso if he was sk

[Marquis]

VOTE: gm

compromising because i'm not lynching kitz. scum action theory can support this too.

[Marquis]

VOTE: shinobi

gc i've been for this and in part for reasons really similar to yours for a while now. shin lynch is best lynch

[Marquis]

kitz is town
cheet town
dragon town

gm uh.

shin scum regardless of gm

[Marquis]

I'm not even going to dignify that with a response.

[Marquis]

idgi
gc thinks shin is scum but is voting kitz??
lame af

[Marquis]

VOTE: gm

[Marquis]

you'd better fucking hammer this bc i am not going to have this waste of a day end in a no lynch too

pedit one of you'd better fucking hammer this bc i am not going to have this waste of a day end in a no lynch too

[Marquis]

kitz is town and i'm town and shinobi is scum so if it's not 5v2 rn we can afford to mislynch me tomorrow

i'm done with this anyway

[Marquis]

so this pretty much confirms one scum left i think
otherwise night wouldn't be less than 24h without warning

[Marquis]

anyway
VOTE: shinobi

[Marquis]

also look at my hands

see

no blood

[Marquis]

well i've proved there's only one scum left anyway or very likely in the case it could have been kitz/cheet with no quickhammer

i think the dragon kill was a kill in obvtown+setting up further suspicion for me

if i'm going to be lynched though i'd rather it be today than tomorrow

[Marquis]

actually no lynching me today would lead to a kitz ml and shinobi win tomorrow...

eh

[Marquis]

gc is town due to neighbor thing...
...

ika, did scum have daytalk?

eh

cheet and kitz i have as strongly town due to genuineness and tone and just... i have a really hard time thinking some of their posts yesterday came from lone scum. kitz trying to figure the game out and whole triumphant attitude about it yesterday isn't scum either.

that leaves shinobi as poe. my laziness is the biggest crutch in the lynching-shinobi thing. maybe i'll build a case and try to figure it out more after finals. idk. right now it's mostly just poe + seeing the same thing in him that i did in tso wrt being upset at the lack of valid!case rather than being accused as scum. i know he wants something he can try to argue against but i'm not really in the position (rl+game) to give it to him atm

[Marquis]

got it thanks

so gc is like 1% scum if ika decided that instead of giving scum daytalk, he'd make 2 of them neighbors with daytalk. if it was only that it'd be 10% but then i'm still reading gc claiming for ozgin as town fucking with scum's plan to keep quiet

[Marquis]

and btw i wasn't sure because old guidelines never specified

[Marquis]

shinobi is scum because everyone else is town
there
problem solved
lynch
now

[Marquis]

i'll be back later today
been pretty busy having a life and all

[Marquis]

kitz town because genuine in a way that's hard AND not surface-beneficial to fake as scum
you're town bc this is your town game and genuine disinterest then interest in lynching me which prob wouldn't happen as scum
gc town because totally unnecessary ozgin shenanigans and neighbor spec
that leaves shinobi through PoE and i'm still seeing the same mad-at-lack-of-case-thing in him a tso

also, believe me, if i were scum, i'd still have a lasting enthusiasm for this shitfest-town of a game
i'm not scum but i won't cry if i get to leave early
i'd just rather let us all leave still in one whole rather than leave on my own and have to watch the explosion from behind the glass knowing i could have stopped it

so maybe i'll bring up scum interactions later
unlikely though
just kind of hoping you guys trust me and finally vote shin instead of letting us get caught between two town wagons by deadline again
and not too eager to make a "proper" case after what happened with fa_q2 either

[Marquis]

proper cases don't work for me they're like bombs in birdcages
this is both a cop out and a hard truth

[Marquis]

"Mad at lack of a case thing" is something that happens to players that play both alignments.

Would you accept the fact that someone was voting you and wouldn't explain why as either alignment? Like really.

you were there and you know the full extent of what i mean by that when i held it against tso

granted your response is a bit better because when i attacked him with "your posts obviously show you don't even have a townread on yourself" his response was "no they don't"

but it's not just "mad at lack of a case", it's that and the same as tso in that for the past few game days i haven't gotten a single sense of you playing this game like you know you're town in spite of the suspicion or that you have a legitimate town mindset rather than just saying things that feel logical and don't raise too many eyebrows

[Marquis]

About the visit thingie that I asked a million times.

Spoiler:

Oh wait. I get it.
It's possible it's a role that kills all visitors. Provoke everyone.
... I don't even think it's that.

1. Three attacks.
2. Healed, two deaths.
3. Single attack two nights.
= Visited a visit-killer. That's possible, right?

I still have that theory about a visit killer... If that's possible.

I have one question : Is either of these roles possible in Normal? Kill visitors, Multi-Direction-Shot.

Am I really the only one who's able to think outside the box here?

Anyways, soon off to the doctor so I won't be around for a bit.

OH LOOK A SCUMCLAIM

How is that a scum claim? I think you're just tunneling me at this point.
If this was a scum claim, I'd be all like "Hey fucks, I'm the actual serial killer".

I don't disagree, but I think there's more evidence for Kitz.

Nobody's said anything about anyone's meta.

How about, shut up? Your tunneling is rather blatant and annoying now, with excuses and tunnel-slips everywhere.
If you want to get me, be more constructive and stop contradicting yourself. Here's the 2 most recent examples on meta on House.

I should probably see if House claimed Scum with anyone other than Kitz.

Meta 1. This is Your piece of the meta. Otherwise, you wouldn't see it as a meta thing, it's a House related thing.

house busses his scum buddies like crazy when he is scum. I can see his sarcastic comments being truthful

Meta 2.

"if you want to get me" = also probtown

Here's one piece of information I know about mass murderers.

The normal variation kills whoever rests at a location, so everyone who visits that target is at a location and if target has targeted another they have moved to a different location.
Killing more than one puts them to a cooldown unable to act for a while.

If that's the one, it leaves the question : Why did all these get attacked?
1. Boon visited Viking.
2. Piss roleblocked Viking.
3. Viking couldn't move due to roleblock.
= Boon, Viking and Piss got attacked, healing Viking.

That's 3 attacks with two kills, which should trigger the MM's cooldown.

I fucking solved N1.

more likely town gloating over this
scum kind of knew what happened

I fucking solved N1.

which increases your odds of being scum since they already knew the night actions.

Stop this antagonizing.

Viking claimed roleblocked and healed.
Piss died a roleblocker.
Boon died a doctor.

Anyone can see it.

Killed :
N1
- Pisskop - Maifa Non-consecutive Roleblocker killed night 1
- Boonskiies - Town Non-consecutive Doctor killed night 1
- Viking (attacked & healed)
= All by T S O. Where's the mafia kill? It went on T S O?
= All visited Viking and Viking couldn't move.

N2
-Ellie - Town deputy turned cop killed night 2
= Mafia. Can visit.

Mathblade - Town vengeful killed night 3
= Mafia? Or MM? Cannot visit.

Nobody Special town Non-consecutive Doctor killed night 4
= Mafia if heal N2 and N4 (Visit N4), or add in possible MM if N1, N3. (No visit N4)

T S O - Mass Murder Killed night 6
= Mafia.

Lynched :
- Klingoncelt town citizen lynched day 1
- vikingfan - Town Cop lynched day 2
- Albert B. Rampage - Town Tracker lynched Day 3.
- FA_Q2 - town citizen lynched day 4
- Aeronaut - Mafia Goon lynched day 5
- Ozgin - Mafia goon/Neighbor - lynched day 6

Honestly I'm probably going to vote Kitz. How long I take to vote is up to you guys.

Then why did I defend T S O so much if I'm mafia as opposed to getting him lynched? :roll:

bad town logic
much harder for scum to type out an obviously bad argument and let themselves post it
you can try to argue kitz is just bad at mafia but i'm not going to listen to that shit

If GM is a mafia neighbourizer, he could be the one to attack, meaning he visited.

Ozgin were a Neighbour to a town. What's the fucking point if two mafia were neighbours together? GC cleared.
GM as a Neighbourizer who hasn't done much afterwards... And coincidentally T S O died.

Neighbours are capable of manipulating and influencing the town.

I really believe T S O, because he did not have anything to loose in his statement about GM being attacked.
Scum would've been attacked if they attacked the same target as the MM. (post night 1).

VOTE: goodmorning

Yeah, I'm certain it's GM now because of that logic actually makes a lot of sense.
If one more scum flips and this game continues, I'm at a complete blank at who the next one could be.

So let me get this straight, everyone wants to lynch me and doesn't even understand or wish to even see the logic.
FUCKIT
If this is how it is going to be, then I cannot convince otherwise and scum has just won anyway. Logic is god damn banned.
Citizen/VT, non-neighbourized, no clues.

VOTE: Kitz

/lurk

town method of claim - "no clues" suggests she instinctively approached this game from however she knew it as a vt on other sites

You've not been using anything that remotely resembles logic lately. And that outburst we completely emotional, much lime ozgins before we lynched him

Nah, I just don't want to play if everyone refuses actual logic.
Everyone refuse to look into that I initiated the lynch towards Oz, and other things.

For example, you don't like the following logic.

Code: Select all

T S O is a Mass Murderer.
Mass Murderer kills those in a location.
Those who don't target, are in their own location.
T S O attacked GM, GM is alive.
Therefor, GM could be a scum who attacked someone.
It resulting in moving to a different location and avoid the attack.
GM claimed not targeting anyone either.

scum very likely wouldnt have bussed there especially not in her position
her risking bringing it up makes me think town too because it'd be all too easy to look at it in particular again to see if it looked like a bus - which in the urgency of that situation would have been obvious

[Marquis]

actual feels

[Marquis]

u heartless scumbag

cant u see that all ur LOGIC and RATIONAL COLD-BLOODED ANALYSIS is TEARING this game APART

[Marquis]

if u want me to be rude we could go with "u wouldnt be this sensible as town"

or we could just all remember that i was your scumpartner for a significant amount of time and this strongly reminds me of your scumgame in suburbia anyway

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... er_sort=Go

[Marquis]

i probably unknowingly sugarcoat 90% of my reads on this site

maybe i should just stop that

[Marquis]

playing too badly to be scum

which is a great way to read players like kitz

[Marquis]

for last scum it's between her and you
and her posts are more driven and much more genuine than yours
yours are all focused on as i was actually kind of serious about, cold logic - what i know of your towngame from rick santorum mafia isn't as cold/emotionless as this has been either especially when faced with people scumreading you - when that happened there, you didn't exactly go ballistic, no, but you showed sides of amusement and "holy shit are u serious" and etc etc
your posts here could be made by any robot given the task of spewing out beeps and boops as mafia!code dictates

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... er_sort=Go

[Marquis]

oh yeah huh

but you could just be trying to remedy that now with your "like wtf rofl"

but

ugh

shit idk

[Marquis]

reskimming suburban iso and yeah that's what i'm kinda seeing nowwwwwwwwwwwww
www

wwwwwwwwwwwwww

ok so i don't know who's scum anymore.

if i vote kitz now and shin-boi turns out to actually be scum in the end and the dead thread yells at me do i still get points for getting it right like half the time?

please just lynch me because i hate this.

[Marquis]

so you admit it?

you're scum trying to make me think you're scum trying to make me think you're town?

[Marquis]

knowing i'd probably just give up that game of snake and eat my own ass in confusion?

[Marquis]

i just had this really weird shuddering feeling that the dead pt is yelling at us about letting cheet get a free pass, and about me having a kind of bullshit meta read

uh. i have a townread on cheet.

uhhhh.

maybe some nka and interactions for sure later

[Marquis]

i am really good at faking tone as scum tbh

i know that rly doesn't help but!!!!!!!! w/e

[Marquis]

i'm not cheeky as scum though

anyway after sleeping on it i still kind of want shinobi dead the most

sorry shin-boi if u thought the heat was off after i was somehow half-convinced i was wrong at 3 in the morning!!

[Marquis]

later, i'm not online atm

[Marquis]

8 hours...

:/

PEDIT THERE WAS A VOTE HERE BUT REMOVED BC SELFVOTE

why you're all townreading shin-boi idek

[Marquis]

bc all the big posts and big cases this game have been so accurate

i really don't know what to do to convince you guys. i feel like even if i make another big case it'll just be ignored because lol-marquis-could-be-scum or just bc stubborn-ass ppl

[Marquis]

I think we two are the only ones who ain't townreading Shin.
Altho Marquiz, you two are on the same potential slot. It's a matter of figuring out who.

#Edit : GM had bad effort and biased by a questionable / bad play depending on the perception of how things went.
GM wouldn't have been lynched if GM actually bothered to do a few things.

you should probably vote shinobi if you're town and don't want a mislynch

[Marquis]

you should probably vote shinobi if you're town and don't want a mislynch

The problem is that I'm not sure which of the two of you are and if I'm left alive then I'm just a lynchbait anyway.
Better to get the low hanging fruit, eh?

...

i dont

...

...

...

maybe we should just lynch you then

pedit i do think aero's jump on the shin wagon was a dying moments bus though

[Marquis]

you should probably vote shinobi if you're town and don't want a mislynch

The problem is that I'm not sure which of the two of you are and if I'm left alive then I'm just a lynchbait anyway.
Better to get the low hanging fruit, eh?

...

i dont

...

...

...

maybe we should just lynch you then

pedit i do think aero's jump on the shin wagon was a dying moments bus though

Let's look at this way. Either of the two of you are scum.

If we lynch Shin, how do we convince the rest to lynch you over me?
If we lynch Marq, how do we convince the rest to lynch Shin over me?

I can defend myself if absolutely needed
trust me, I haven't been trying at all today bc rl things + i just want to get it over with with a shin lynch now
plus if it comes down to you/me/cheet... well actually town is probably fucked... but we'll see. 3p lylo can bring a lot of clarity

[Marquis]

basically if you're actually town kitz you're doing absolutely nobody but scum a favor by selflynching/voting

even just putting off the pressure until tomorrow is better because i'd like to think lylo reads are more easily confirmable/bounceable

[Marquis]

4:20 left :|

not sure what I want to do now. this feels exactly like yesterday's compromise deadline lynch.

[Marquis]

I really just think everyone else is town.

I've said this over and over again.

I would not be this stubborn about it if it was just a scumread on Shinobi. I always have significantly more confidence (and accuracy) in my townreads than my scumreads.

[Marquis]

not voting: green crayon, kitz marquis, shinobi, cheetory6

5 alive, 3 to lynch

(expired on 2015-05-13 21:00:00)

deadline is one week now with so few players

[Marquis]

I think GC is town because scum either don't have daytalk or do have an Encryptor, so two scum neighbors and only scum neighbors makes no sense even with this being ika.

I think you're town because your opinions look honest and like you're actually trying to figure things out.

While I have not been the biggest fan of Kitz's constant dumb comments (dumb as in really, really bad suggestions - that I realize I've constantly just called dumbtown despite me KNOWING lately I've had issues with townreading scum for that) and habitual selfvoting with me having to convince her not to (which also incidentally feels too easy, but she's likely the compromise lynch anyway so whatever, we'll see).

And I will admit it's a struggle for me to find strong indicators of Shinobi scum that others can actually understand without being in the same position/having the same view of the game as me, but up until recently he's been lowest on my town to scum list by far (up until recently because Kitz has been steadily dropping as I'm getting worn out of defending her).

An hour left for me to do quick NKA. Just a sec.

[Marquis]

That was @ Cheet.

I don't have as much reasoning for him being town, but it's a lot of good gut feels (if I just ignore the pangs of dead-pt-screaming in the back of my head).

[Marquis]

Actually reading my post I realized I have a lot more reasons to scumread Kitz than townread her.

I even forgot to include the flip side after "While [things that look bad/I didn't like],".

Well then.

[Marquis]

what the fuck does that mean about my psyche.

[Marquis]

I'm starting to panic because I really think this day is crucial and that if we don't lynch the scum today we'll be doomed with me in 3p LYLO

and before any of you jump on that "OMG HOW DO U KNOW YOU'RE GOING TO LIVE"

just fucking LOOK AT ME

[Marquis]

Spoiler:

Townreading GC cheetory and gm. I can be persuaded with the others. Marquis is looking particularly scummy in light of his celebration.

VOTE: kitz

house busses his scum buddies like crazy when he is scum. I can see his sarcastic comments being truthful

I'm good for lynching kits or marquis today

Shinobi didn't vote.

I like good mornings invite. Marquises looked like sheeping.

Unvote rather. I don't think kits and marquis are both scum

Yeah, I'm certain it's GM now because of that logic actually makes a lot of sense.
If one more scum flips and this game continues, I'm at a complete blank at who the next one could be.

what logic? Seeing rambling. Not much logic to it.

I'm leaning kitz too. Which is why I'm voting for her.

Here is what I'm thinking

Gc and gm are town to me.

Shinobi and cheetory are prob town.

Leaves marques and kitz for me. I might go into the prob town if I have to since I'm not 100% sure

@cheetory

Sorry for getting it backwards. I've been questioning marquis for my own reasons. I'm also second guessing myself for my own reasons. I will likely.vote for marquis if I see no better options.

The only ones I refuse to consider voting for are gc and gm at this point

I'm finally getting over my cold. So sorry I haven't been very useful this past week.

I'm still pretty much leaning to marquis or kilz. But other than GC I'm not a all certain of my reads. Getting pretty paranoid about it.

VOTE: kitz

I'm not sure how far from the deadline we are. But I know kits play is bothering me.

I think id rather lynch marquis today but I don't see us finding the votes for that. Ive had scummy vibe on him all game and nothing has really changed.

if we have to have a compromise vote I can do it but of really prefer with lynch one of them.

Not seeing another lynch happening at this point. We have less than 16 hrs left.

VOTE: kitz

Been fun playing with you kitz

so he was literally only scumreading me and kitz

and i'm town

[Marquis]

dragon was kinda obvtown though

well except for me kind of letting my tso scumread bleed over into his townread on dragon

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...it's past midnight

why am i dredging myself in unnecessary wifom

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okay.

i'm good with a kitz lynch.

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oddly enough the thing i'm the most scared of is the game actually ending and getting yelled at by people for being useless and "WHY DID YOU DEFEND KITZ SO MUCH WHY DID YOU DRAG THE DAY ON AND ON WHY DO YOU SUCK" and just. idk

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ugh

now i'm scared of being right???

i'm going insane

VOTE: kitz

whatever. hands off. done. awaiting flip. good game i (kind of) hope

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(also dragon barely mentioned shin, feel like i should point that out as one last jab or something)

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me neither.

pedit ok

can't tell if you're being cheeky scum or not

ok

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i am the worst

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i'm so sorry shin

i wasn't giving you anything to work with just because i didn't want to have to fight back and forth for it again like i kind-of did with tso

i should have recognized cheet fading away for what it was and not just let him retunr under pressure as if it was nromal and not townread him for emta despite having no expeirnce with his sucmgame and
i did a lot of things wrong this gmae
i;m so sorry to thw rest of town
esp kitz and shin

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i pretty much stalled the game and it let scum get away with these deadline lynxhes and i just

i'm sorry
why do i keep replacnig into long games it never works out

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i want to know if the doctors informing their targets variation actually went through and was accepted by the nrg.

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also, that variant of neighborizer.

thirdly, the extremely short night that seemed to confirm 1 scum and no town prs left.

i just... i am having some issues now.

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Denial
Anger
Bargaining
Depression
Acceptance

once again the psychologists have trapped me. damn it

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Didn't ask you or was talking to you, so myob? Like if you don't get it then probably best not to comment.

idk. like. yeah.

WHAT A POLITE RESPONSE

I WAS TRYING TO BE NONCOMMITTAL BECAUSE I DON'T ACTUALLY WANT TO AGREE WITH ABR

BUT I DO

BECAUSE 'NORMAL' IMPLICITLY MEANS 'NORMAL ON MAFIASCUM'

F U C K

really upset i didn't push that earlier gm townread harder- it was her ingame posts to tso that were like this that are genuine af and remind me strongly of what i usually see in her towngame

also all the dead pt drama wow.

as for normalcy elusive's comments in there are lol

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Kitz, sorry if you thought I was using "dumbtown" as a reference to your English skills - it's a term I use often to describe players who suggest plans/ideas that I don't think are very logical, and that I think they're town as a result. and I wish I had been able to hold onto that townread on you but I don't really want to think about this game too much anymore so I'll stop there.