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In post 133, Marquis wrote:seo is mean
I was going to say its a dog eat dog world but apparently dogs are a touchy subject here
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you guys are definitely chatterboxes
In post 202, elusive wrote:
1. What is your bestest scum hunting strategy and why?
2. What is your "town song" like the song you listen to as town and are ready for battle against unseen enemies?
3. What is your "Scum song" when you're like twirling your evil mustache or clickety clacking your badly painted Red nails?
4. What should newish players know about this setup and what advice would you give them?
5. Strawberry, blueberry or cherry?
I like answering questions, so I will answer these
1. accuse everyone of being scum, because it usually works sometimes
2. sonic - city escape
3. sonic - city escape
4. don't talk about dogs
5. strawberries cus it's strawberry season for the donut shop near me
In post 303, Thor665 wrote:
Describe the basis of the policy lynch in order to justify its consideration?
We're past the point of saying "because" unless you're just that bad at describing your reasoning...which is okay, tell me if it's so in order that I may add you to my "acceptable lynch" list.
99% of the time marquis is the opposite faction as me! The best reasoning tbh (not really)
also varsoon's hated claim made me laugh 10/10
In post 340, Otolia wrote:You realize that, now that you've admitted lying to the town, you literally have to be lynched. Any scenario where you lives in bad for town.
lying brings back fond memories
VOTE: otolia
im going to accuse you of being scum now-
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In post 443, Flubbernugget wrote:Because I like to lynch scum
I don't like it when people scumread the same people I do!
In post 556, Otolia wrote:@Varsoon : You really are a Village Idiot. I sincerely hope don't flip scum so that I can blacklist you as the terrible player you are.
Why do you love varsoon so much? Awkward tunneling? Scum? Scum awkwardly tunneling? Tell me which one you are.
In post 683, OkaPoka wrote:
because i instantly have townreads on anime avatars.
im srs its a disease.
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In post 702, droog wrote:In post 700, Flames of Disaster wrote:I have known droog to be a mid-low activity poster
lmao
that was dangan ronpa right
that game was not my usual
I hope that game wasn't a lot of people's usual
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In post 717, Otolia wrote:
Are these rhetorical questions ? Right now there isn't anything better to do than making sure the town is set on a decision regarding Varsoon's lies. Call me old-school but lying as town should be a basis for a policy lynch in any and all normal scenarii.
Also I was waiting for people to do something else than vote me and be done with it - like Seohyun above, just so we can get some productive work going but it seems it shall not be the case. I was trying to reason with Sakura Hana but she can't grasp the difference between explicit and implicit, so that's sad. House hasn't replied to my question here.
Not rhetorical questions, pls answer. Also, what's your idea of productive work? getting varsoon lynched? Everything else is unimportant?
Is there anyone else you have a read on besides varsoon? Share your opinions, I promise it be won't harmful in establishing good reads or your money back!
In post 807, Otolia wrote:
Maybe you should take your she-male fetish in 62 if it's still exists, people there will be able to help you controlling those urges. Nonetheless it's a general comment on the way you behave not only with droog but with others too.
oh my
At least fod isn't ultra tunneling on anyone (yet)
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In post 984, House wrote:In post 983, Flames of Disaster wrote:Why not strawberry?
This shit is bananas.
B-a-n-a-n-a-s.
Spoiler:
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So basically you're just saying you want to lynch town because policy instead of scum
In post 1021, Marquis wrote:i really don't believe that varsoon's claim is legit.
either way anti is town af and votes there are just dumb wishful thinking.
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darn, this coulda been great
I was gunna be annoyed about the flames thing, but now it's completely dispelled
2 scum kills, redirector?
that was a pretty rad redirect if so-
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idk man 2 scum flips is pretty interesting to me-
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In post 1136, Marquis wrote:redirector isn't normal iirc
most likely option is vig+other scumteam or vig+sk
(p.s. it should go without saying that varsoon could still be otherscum/sk so if you're a vig shoot him bc in that case it's likely a fakeclaim)
oh
idk setup stuff that well
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In post 1252, Antihero wrote:i think elusive or seo are a lot more promising than otolia
elusive prob town
i guess that just leaves me
In post 1279, TheFuzzylogic99 wrote:Can someone explain the case on Otalia .... sorry but I dont understand how he is being read as scum?
his love for varsoon and lying
At least, that's why I was trying to probe at him before
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In post 1327, mnemonicdevice wrote:Ok, on page 30, and my reads on everyone are:
Albert/Notscience- Not enough posts at this point, leaning slightly town from Notscience's first couple posts though
Antihero- I can't read him. I'm thinking town tho
Boonskiis- No posts.
Choof/TheFuzzy- No read.
Copper- He reads town, his analysis and playstyle this game feels town to me
Elusive- SCUM. Nearly all of his posts up to that point feel scummy to me.
Flubber- No read, feels like lurking via fluff, although a couple content posts
Gorkington- A strong town read for this one
House- His playstyle confuses me, but I'm leaning scum
Kitten/Droog- Got a noob town read from Kitten's posts
Marquis- Not enough posts for me to be conclusive here
OkaPoka- Slight scum read
Pisskop- Slightly scummy, but not sure
Seohyun- So much lurk.
Thor665- I get a helpful town read on him
Varsoon- Ugh. I feel scum, but then his play after "Not actually hated, just wanted to survive. plz dont hurt me" reads town
ZZZX- Slight town read, from his few posts so far.
for now, VOTE: Elusive
why does zzzx get slight town read
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In post 1352, Gorkington wrote:I'm not good with your vote though.
VOTE: Seohyun
Why did you take so long to get on this wagon given that you were on it on D1?
Why is slightly townreading ZZZX being off the only thing you have to say about him?
Are you going to be a bish like pisskop and ignore questions because you think you're better than everyone else in the game?
Let me know .
But I already said earlier in the thread I love answering questions! It's my hobby.
1. Because I don't like hopping onto wagons when everyone else seems so eager to do so.
2. Because the other people with minimal posts he simply said, "no posts" or some variation. But why is zzzx town for posting less than the other people he mentioned as having no posts? zzzx has basically only posted about how many pages he has to read and that droog's posts give him a headache. I've been suspicious ofc of otolia and now I'm suspicious of the replacement. So there's my vote now.
In post 1375, mnemonicdevice wrote:Is ZZZX the only one of my reads you disagree with?
No, I disagree with your elusive and house read so far.
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In post 1391, ZZZX wrote:I guess ill take marquis word here
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In post 1474, TheFuzzylogic99 wrote:from my understanding of the set up there likely only two scenerio
2 scum team or a scum team and a ww team... likely 3 people each team
or a 5 party scum team. Theeses are the most lpopolur set up as far as I can tell.
either way there is atleast 1 more scum on the FF/ Sakura scum team. I am kinda baffled that the town is pretty much ignoring two confscum flips
Thor- exactly what do you want me to answer????
your confscum are thor and notscience, right?
I think thor and elusive are probs town
dunno about ika
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In post 1504, ZZZX wrote:Note from reading Thor posts: I find his questions unlike what his playstyle as town would be from my personal experiance... they feel too lacking tbh
VOTE: Thor for above thing and to make my vote useful i guess?
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In post 1509, ZZZX wrote:And I hope you got what I mean by what i just said
Thor isn't playing up to par
And you find that scummy, correct?
have you played with scum thor?
In post 1512, ZZZX wrote:In post 1507, Seohyun wrote:In post 1504, ZZZX wrote:Note from reading Thor posts: I find his questions unlike what his playstyle as town would be from my personal experiance... they feel too lacking tbh
VOTE: Thor for above thing and to make my vote useful i guess?
How is town thor like
and I wana add this post slightly ringed my scumdar. No idea why tbh
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In post 1536, ZZZX wrote:
not exactly but you can say its like that
and i think i did twice at least
gut is how i do this
And scum thor played like this?
an explanation similar to this would be nice:
In post 1579, copper223 wrote:There is something off with Thor this game, he admits that it's questionable to focus on Elusive while voting someone else and is spending way too much time replying to accusations and justifying his play, the last time he played town with me and he was pressured he just called his wagon stupid and went on pushing the lynch he wanted.
Just from this game alone, I'm inclined to believe Thor is town
but i'd like to see your examples
In post 1581, copper223 wrote:In post 1580, Gorkington wrote:I want to say that statistically speaking it's more likely to be SK & mafia.
Chances of 2/3 mafia off the same team dying out of 19 players in a single night is pretty unlikely, no?
That's true but Otalia looked scummy to me, mnemonic not as much, so I want to figure out if Sakura was playing like a multiball (trying to lynch the other scumteam) or like a single mafia (trying to mislynch town), cause that has relevance in regards to the players she was collaborating with and townreading.
Wait, if there's multiple scumteams, would scum be told that there is?
i can't setup
In post 1603, OkaPoka wrote:@MOD is there a reason why otolia replaced out, or is that confidential.
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In post 1599, Marquis wrote:In post 1594, TheFuzzylogic99 wrote:@Mdevice ... Also are you saying Maquis inconsistency is a scum tell????
In post 1595, mnemonicdevice wrote:Pedit: No, I don't think marquis inconsistency is a scumtell, just a mistake in a game with so many posts.
ok since when are we even suggesting that me bringing up mnemonic's read inconsistency on me is something to even consider me being scum for
like
i don't get it. you're apparently reading but i don't know if you're saying this because you just don't understand what's going on there or because you're trying to pretend like you're involved and actually know what the "inconsistency" refers to.
Isn't this inconsistency mnemonic's read list?
what does this have to do with scum marquis?
Is mnemonic's "just a mistake in a game with so many posts" meaning he himself made a mistake, or is he saying this about marquis?
wait lemme see
flubber: talks about marquis pointing out the inconsistency
mnemonic: it wasn't an inconsistency
fuzzy: what?? scumtell??
wtf fuzzy
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In post 1607, pisskop wrote:In post 1606, Seohyun wrote:Wait, if there's multiple scumteams, would scum be told that there is?
i can't setup
Not usually. And certainly not in a normal without there being some kind of 'red' scum or 'blue' scum or whatnot. Maybe werewolfy, but likely no?
So sakura most likely couldn't have been playing to lynch another scum team
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In post 1675, mnemonicdevice wrote:So, I went through the entire game (well, just through the votecounts, so I may have missed one or two votes that were quickly switched), made a circle of all the players, and all of the votes were represented as an arrow, the things I noticed were:
-Nearly everyone has been on the Varsoon wagon at some time, the exceptions are:
--NS: Whose only votes have been on Gork and me
--Gork: Whose only votes have been on SW/FF and me
--Flub: Whose only vote has been on me
--OkaPoka: Whose only votes have been on FoD and me
--Seoh- Whose only votes were on Marquis and me
Thats all... five players in a game of 21, some of which have been quite inactive. Note how the only people who stayed off of the Varsoon wagon have only had a few votes, and all of them have voted me..
-Boon has only voted Varsoon. Ever. Then he comes out of the blue with nearly 0 posts and claims that he wishes to hammer me, but then takes it back as a joke.
-Seoh has only vote me, and has only been voted on by Anti.
tfw a lot of stuff in this chart is wrong (ns pushed fod, flubber voted fod too, gork has voted like 4 or 5 different people, pisskop voted me too once, etc etc etc)
not enough votecounts to see all the votes man
but let's pretend it's correct,
1. Do you think the people who didn't get on the varsoon wagon are more likely to be scum and have been vote parking?
2. do you think that only anti voting me makes me scum? I assume that's what you're trying to say-
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In post 1686, TheFuzzylogic99 wrote:
Everyone voting MD-If MD flip scum doez that make NS more likely than not town. If MDevice flip scum does that mean that NS is likely scum?
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Quoting posts on phone is bleh so maybe later
If you look at the vote counts, it is actually different than MD's tally (I said this earlier)
But I don't consider it to have been a lie
Zzzx seems opportunistic to me with his votes. His trajectory is odd
Fuzzy was right, he posts weird and idk if his style is scum or town
Anti, what do you want from me-
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@fuzzy
Md - not as confident in my scum read anymore, could be town. But believe it enough to want to see what he flips
Zzzx - trajectory of votes is weird like I said before
You - I consider some of your arguments to sound like town but at the same time some of the things you say ping scum (like your focus on pisskop's vote and vote of anti and the explanation of unvoting)
There's also probs a scum in the group of really active people, haven't decided who yet
Side notes for myself and maybe you:
Thought elusive was town before but they went v/la for a while and seems like there's a good chunk of people scumreading her. so I want to see what their replacement plays like
I don't really remember anti's posts, town maybe I guess? I should reread and refresh myself on it-
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In post 1952, Gorkington wrote:I am less active now.
VOTE: NS
I would hardpush a ZZZX wagon if people would get on board.
I would hop onto a zzzx wagon
VOTE: notscience
he's null to not town
I can dig this wagon unless md wagon revives or zzzx gets some votes-
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@zzzx
Your thought/vote trajectory
Good reason, eh?
realized that at the beginning of this game
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They don't feel like an organic thought process, interspersed with fluff
esp the thor scumread and then your retraction
then the random anti is bad vote
In post 2025, zMuffinMan wrote:describe the notscience wagon in 140 characters or less
'good enough'
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In post 2105, ZZZX wrote:vla perants out of country for 2 days and I gotta take care of the house for that time
well if zzzx's parent's house is anything like my parent's house,
difficult as heck to take care of
meh 17 hours left
VOTE: notscience
why is it that in the games i've been in, apathetic, 'im going to be lynched' players are always scum?
My perception is probably heavily skewed now on that behavior-
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In post 2221, zMuffinMan wrote:who do you think is scum, seohyun?
right now, pending to change:
md
zzzx
flub
ns (pretty meh on this one compared to the others tho)
In post 2222, Marquis wrote:seo vote thor
you should already know inactivity is normal for notty and his recent posts have all been town as heck
i don't see his recent posts as being town, they're just like, there
and yeah im probs being biased cus his apathy reminds me of u
like pokemon generation
and i think thor is town
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ew
only scum could think asparagus is tasty
l-2?
i will vote thor if i have to before deadline
In post 2234, zMuffinMan wrote:
could you elaborate on this one a little
it's probably a little different for me because i read through D1 paying close attention to flips and stuff and you've been in the game since the beginning so you wouldn't have noticed it, but he's actually one of my stronger town reads, partially for the way he interacted with sakura and partially for the strong-headed approach to the game i saw in multiple places D1 that didn't really look like scum pushing an agenda
in the beginning, I remember I didn't like his seeming jump onto otolia after I did
Remember I didn't like some of his reasoning on otolia (thought I'm scumreading that slot too)
And then the fuzzy vote
Though now that you mention that, I'll read his iso
maybe some post numbers and stuff
allergies kicked in a ton
i hate spring
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Welll no matter if its multiball or a big mafia team + SK,
I agree we should thin the numbers as a start
Like that fuzzy wagon for starters
Read flub's iso, and it didn't have that scum feel like it did before
ika actually moved his vote at the end so
I guess I'll join copper for now here
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In post 2435, TheFuzzylogic99 wrote:Anyways I am not sold as Anti being scum however his view that its one big scum team gives me pause. I am trying to decide if this is coming from a town POV or if this is a scum thing. I am not sure yet
What's your reasoning for having this differentiation?
Why does anti keep saying he's bad at mafia,
Is this like a Thing
ALSO
I can do with a mnem lynch
His last thor vote felt bad
Though i've always been up for a mnem lynch
Pretty sure zzzx forgot about this game or something
Oh yeah and boonskiies too
What about that reads list you said you'd do-
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In post 2532, Antihero wrote:soooo.... guys
what do i win post game if copper turns out to be scum (not-town, however you want to parse it?)
Pride, I guess
All of zzzx's most recent posts (besides the content-less ones) have been asking why people are scumreading him/if they are.
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In post 1659, ZZZX wrote:Also UNVOTE:
A gut feeling from a quick read really proved inaccurate as I can't find an accurate accusation of thors reads
In post 1693, ZZZX wrote:In post 1692, copper223 wrote:VOTE: Antihero
I don't see the scumread on Seohyun either and after our little discussion he went back to lurking unless needled by Thor.
This post pushed me to quickly skin throu anti hero's iso and...
Its even worse than mine...
VOTE: Anti hero
^Still don't like these
In post 1961, ZZZX wrote:Skimmed last few pages and will VOTE: NS
I honestly have trouble reading a game if I didnt actively chat with people there to understand them. so let me see....
@seo is there any reason except for my uselessness for voting me generally?
@Gork same thing
@boon thoughts generally on the game? I believe you are town so i wana hear your point of view
@thor does your anti hero read still stands?
generally the NS vote is a near deadline one tbh. Misactivity in a game can be cus of many reasons. I know that first hand.
The questioning on scumreads with nothing to follow up.
He did vote for ns though, even when the ns and mnem wagons were pretty even.
More questions with nothing to substantiate it-
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In post 2675, TheFuzzylogic99 wrote:We have four scum kill and all are the same color..... this means one scum group. Though the day 1 extra kill still confuses me.
3 of the 4 scum were lurkers or semi lurker so looking for lurker could be a good direction. I want to look at the connection between the 4 scum and see if there is any connection.
We have kiled 4 scum.... killing one today would pretty much insure a town win
varsoon literally said it
don't feel like getting the post
also don't see a reason to disbelieve it at this point-
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In post 2681, TheFuzzylogic99 wrote:Yes Vasoon killed Sakura but that leaves the FF unexplained. No way scum NK there own.There is no busdriver or such which means the kill came from outside the scum. That means that the scum had two killed but had 0 kill.a Sk is possible.
I'm pretty sure the last one is an sk
is that what u were confused about
But that doesn't really matter,
Just vote non-townreads and it'll be a-ok at this rate
Who do you wanna lynch rn fuzzy?
I'm pretty content with still lynching from the people I thought were scum before-
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In post 2698, TheFuzzylogic99 wrote:Seo...
Part of me want to lynch Anti... his and Sakura interactions reminds me alot of Sakuras and Notty's . I am not sure on this and I dont want to cause a mislynch when we are so close to winning
Can anybody give a good case for Klingon besides he is lurking... not seeing a good case for him
For me it carries on from zzzx, don't really have a read on klingoncelt (made a post on the things I didn't like about zzzx before)
Anyways, we still have plenty of people in the game, if you want to push anti then do it-
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In post 2703, RIP wrote:Is flubber cleared or something?
I really think he's scum or just posting weird, I can't describe it. Just a gut feeling
Nah
A reread of his iso though made me think more town than scum, even though his votes were never on scum (if I remember correctly)
Could use another read through I guess-
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