NY 188: Delicious Mafia II (Post-game chatter)

[Wake1]

Guys, let's hurry this lynch before someone else gets mutilated via a fighter jet named "The Ad Hominem."

Eager, are you?

[Wake1]

@Wake - Yes. Yes I am. I think the next lynch and a series of well-placed vig shots will sober up this squad of people, and maybe people will cool down over night. Besides, I'd bet my hat that he's gonna flip scum.

You're bringing up Vig shots. You shouldn't be.

Not liking your post here one bit.

[Wake1]

If he flips Town, and I survive Night 1, there's going to be collateral damage.

I don't like having to warn presumably Town players to not do reckless things.

Their pride gets in the way, and they close up their ears and do it anyways.

[Wake1]

Aero, can we have ika replaced?

It's been over 4 days.

[Wake1]

Let's let him give his final reads at least before lynching. He's at L-2 right now. Regardless of flip, it will be helpful.

Nah fuck it. I'm going to be lynched, I'm not going to give any reads. Wake is town I guess. TSO is scum.

Get all the info you need from that, and my ISO. I'm not giving up. But if I'm going to be lynched any fucking way then honestly the town deserves to get fucked. Letting scum manipulate this.

Good job scum I hope your on my next scum team. Really.

Town is playing against win con so bad. And TSO throwing his bitch fit and threatening to quit seems affect a few of you.

It's obv nothing I could say, would help me at this point.
I can just hope town isn't this controllable D2.

I should throw out a bunch of random reads just to help scum. They seem to care about this game more than town.

My last post until nightfall. I don't have any hope town will change there misguided ways. If I happen to be alive tommorow, I'll see you then.

TSO is scum.

Please share your reads. If you are Town, and I survive, I can attempt repairing the damage they've caused.

What you should do is honestly share the top three people you think are Scum, and why. Should you be Town, that would have value.

[Wake1]

lol Wake just commented on stubbornness, oh the irony.

nice anti-town play to prove you aren't scum .

I see you didn't listen to Silverwolf on your little jabs.

[Wake1]

If Grayfoxxxx is Scum, I'll be suspecting the game is multiball. Way too early to tell.

[Wake1]

Let's let him give his final reads at least before lynching. He's at L-2 right now. Regardless of flip, it will be helpful.

Nah fuck it. I'm going to be lynched, I'm not going to give any reads. Wake is town I guess. TSO is scum.

Get all the info you need from that, and my ISO. I'm not giving up. But if I'm going to be lynched any fucking way then honestly the town deserves to get fucked. Letting scum manipulate this.

Good job scum I hope your on my next scum team. Really.

Town is playing against win con so bad. And TSO throwing his bitch fit and threatening to quit seems affect a few of you.

It's obv nothing I could say, would help me at this point.
I can just hope town isn't this controllable D2.

I should throw out a bunch of random reads just to help scum. They seem to care about this game more than town.

My last post until nightfall. I don't have any hope town will change there misguided ways. If I happen to be alive tommorow, I'll see you then.

TSO is scum.

Please share your reads. If you are Town, and I survive, I can attempt repairing the damage they've caused.

What you should do is honestly share the top three people you think are Scum, and why. Should you be Town, that would have value.

TSO
Kop
Mex
Maybe Silver. Maybe Frogg.

There you go. My only town read Is you.

Ok for real last post.

You're online.

You should provide final reasons.

The more the body count grows, the more value your final reads and reasoning will have.

This is your moment to say what you need to say. And you should say it.

[Wake1]

Assuming you are and will flip Town, tell everyone why you think I am Town, please.

[Wake1]

Agh! I died!

BISCUITS AND GRAAAAAAVYYYY!!!!!!

[Wake1]

FINALLY.

[Wake1]

I was pretty paranoid of Wolfie this game.

Could not tell which way.

[Wake1]

I was pretty paranoid of Wolfie this game.

Could not tell which way.

You should know, when I am being super argumentative, that I'm more likely to be town than scum. That's been true in so many of my games.

It was really frustrating and annoying that people who were playing with me for the first time like Spiffeh could see that I was town, but people who played with me and knew me could not stop scumreading me.

I'll admit I was trying something new because I had a PR and didn't want to obvtown but still......................I was clearly town.

Like, my play with TSO, do you think I'd ever do that if I was scum with him? That's easily manipulated town Wolfie right there.

Like this describes it I think pretty well for me:

A rule of thumb that scum flail or appearance of emotions tends to feel off is because scum players hold themselves in greater control and when they do lose it, the losing it tends to be out of proportion - mostly because it's pent up and because in-game threat is more critical to the smaller team.

Town tends to get outraged more quickly, and tends not to respond to the specifics. They're more pissed that their innate and pure towniness is somehow being missed, and they're way more paranoid about it.

I don't know. While I did read this post twice and understand it... I also know you're good at this game and, like me, can definitely manipulate your meta. Not trying to get you mad at all: believe me when I say that. What could happen next game you and I are in is that you remember this post when you're Scum, and try to be more super-argumentative. Maybe I'm just being hyper-vigilant or hyper-paranoid; if anything it's somewhat of a compliment in that I have a particularly troublesome time trying to decipher whether you are Town or Scum. I manipulate my meta as Scum very well; I've done things to the point where people ask 'now why would he do this as Scum?'

A skilled Scum can be very outraged as well.

What I try to look for as Town, which helps me, is trying to get conversations going and all the while looking for things that are out of place, like contradictions in one's actions. Not sure when I'll play next, but I would really, really like to play with you again. And Titus.

[Wake1]

Aeronaut, please let us know what's happening.

[Wake1]

I've noticed that my early play was kind of bad (you can tell this is my second game as town) anyone got any suggestions on things I could fix?

Don't jump to conclusions.

[Wake1]

I would caution against automatically scumreading those who scumread you: that's merely an echo of the OMGUS.

If someone is scumreading you, ask them directly WHY, and have them explain it for all to see. That's what I do.

[Wake1]

Can we get some traction on this please?

[Wake1]

Ozgin kills Wake88

People are initially gonna pin the kill on you, TSO, but I think you can handle playing it off as, "This is obviously a scumteam trying to WIFOM the shit out of me," or whatever you wanna do.

I also didn't even notice that Fro99er replaced into this scumteam when I started arguing with him, and then I was like, oh shit, he's a friendly xD but I think we all have good distance between us. Long story short, I think dis gon b gud.

I also think its some kind of multiball. We're not a particularly strong scum team, and we're only 3 members, so there has to be more than us.

Recruit SilverWolf

I will recruit Ozgin, next night phase, if I survive till then.

Right now, I am not fully sure on who I'd recommend to kill. I'd say either TSO or Wake as they look relatively strong players, but I think they are going to gun for each other, and if that is the case, then surely one of them will be the next for the lynch. Ozgin could be protected, so I'd possibly look at either Lapse I think he's going to be a strong player, or Red.