Mafia 71: The Corsican Syndicate - Game over!

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OMG! What happened! I'm sorry for not contributing...

Let me do a read-through, and check up on everything.

Truly sorry, everyone.

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OK. Wow. What a whirlwind of stuff. Nobody ever said anything about me. Sorry, little egotistical moment. Anyway, my current hunch list is

CKD
Lazy
Saint Freak

In order of hunch strength. Not much to go on, so I will pay close attention to these three and Look at others to.

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I don't like how you are defending him wind. I understand your point, but isn't he relatively new to this site? I honestly believe Theo did not throw a Jester into this game. That would be stupid.

FoS: Saint Freak

you are being a little foolish in not defending yourself

FoS: windshipper

for outrageousness and defense against SF.

BTW, cicero, how are you...

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I think FoS's are just fine right now, IMO. And plus, I didn't post until now. And I'm sorry for criticizing SFs knowledge of the game.

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I believe admonished means criticized, therefore you are correct but I am trying not to be so criticizable, because then I get very irritant and somehow get modkilled.

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SF, me agrees...Jesters are usually included in open games to add another worry to the game...but I can see how talk of no jester is scummy as well.

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Unvote, vote CKD

Overreaction!!!!! CKD is clearly scum.

QFT.

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She did admit that she was somewhat new.

Anyway, mass roleclaims are better for smaller stuff. Or open setups.

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Argh. Must...remember...to....look...at...gender...sign...before...posting...

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I don't know how long it's been since I listed top suspects, so here they are:

CKD
ABR
Saint Freak
KilGrey
windshipper

In order of suspicion.

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I feel teams ruin the game. It feels like there is a bondage between windshipper and CKD now, which could inflect on the game.

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And now ABR is seemingly defending Tarhalindur to get CKD out. I'm not exactly sure

what

to believe.

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The list I posted only half an hour ago is already out of date.

ABR
CKD
windshipper
Tarhalindur

Dropped SF and KG off the list cause they've really stopped. People will probably notice that my list is quite flexible.

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@windshipper:o...kay? Then why are you teaming with him...not a suspicion question, but a "OH, I'm just wondering" question.

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Okay, your signatures confused me now. I know there's an Ice Team, but I'm not exactly on it (please don't explain it because I don't want it affecting my gameplay)!

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OK. Read the post before. The team thingy confused me. I kind of don't understand why people shouldn't be voting for Tarhalindur though...

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I know that. But why shouldn't they? You just misread.

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ABR makes a point about Garnashas language barrier

helping

him, but I don't feel it is enough for anything yet. Maybe there is a true language barrier. We need to get something solid on him.

List Time:
CKD
ABR
Garnasha
Tarhalindur

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They dropped off my list earlier.

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I feel they represent my suspicions. If I feel someone is truly suspicious, I will vote for them and then explain.

That's how I play.

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I actually was tottering on putting ABR at the top. This is how I play. I don't feel as if I'm hiding.

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They have all had very scummy ways of play to me.

CKD and ABR are very harsh and blunt in their ways of play. It's almost ironic that they are against each other.

Garnasha pushed for a roleclaim. I thought that was a very strange move in this game.

Tarhalindur is on there only because ABR wondered why people were voting for him. I guess that's not a very big reason.

See? None of those reasons are big enough for a vote.

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At WR: I don't like to vote because I have bad explanations. If I vote someone, and then explain, what looks like a decent explanation to me is crap to other people. I've been lynched and modkilled for reasons stemming from my abysmal vote explanations.

I don't try to hide. If that's what my lists foretold to others, I didn't realize that. I vow to no longer make any more lists. If I do, lynch me immediately.

On that note, my biggest suspicion now is ABR. He has eagerly campaigned against other players, somewhat defended Tarhalindur because he wondered why people were voting for him. I also feel somehow that his big part in the game (comparable to a bully) almost makes him a smaller threat (if "threat" doesn't seem like the right word, it's probably not, I just couldn't think of a better one) in the gameplay. If there is a jester, ABR has to be it. But I feel that a jester would not be put into this game, and therefore, he is my biggest suspicion.

I feel that my above statement is not enough for a vote, if you can get a picture of what a good reason for a vote is. It has to be HUGE.

BTW, courteous SAers (such as mcpaltp), I welcome you kindheartedly.

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I have no votes, and I am not in the not voting thingy on the last vote count, just to forewarn.

Minor suspicions on ABR still, because, well, I think I made myself clear in an earlier post

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Sorry, theo, I didn't mean to be so nitpicky.

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EBWOP: Sorry as well to skruffs.

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Oh, I wasn't replying to anyone, it was just to clarify my non-existence on the vote count.

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I'm in....but I do have some thoughts on some of the people...

Tarhalindur - OUT
Kilgrey
Peers - IN?
Womansrights - OUT
garbagetree
Saint Freak
mcpaltp-IN
Porochaz - IN
cicero-I'm awfully sure cicero is in another game, so he should probably be in.
Windshipper
Albert R. Rampage-same as cicero
Garnasha - OUT?
Lemming1607
50poundsofbread - IN
ChronX - OUT
Aimee
Battle Mage - OUT?
curiouskarmadog - IN?
skitzer-IN

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it makes me feel bad about his participation in the game. It's no real scumtell, it's just worth noting that he doesn't post much. Hell, even I have more posts.

If in a 33page thread someone has less than a page of posts, it makes me suspect he posts just enough to fly under the lurkdar. But it's no real accusation. What is a real accusation, which I'm going to check (if I say nothing then it's not the case) is if the few posts that he does have are oneliners and/or consist purely of stuff others have already said.

You must remember that the first sixteen or so pages of this game happened very quickly, so that strategem may not be so complacent.

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I'm not really sure right now. I'm going to reread maybe Monday because I won't have much computer access.

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After rereading the death scene, I think we have a scum group and a roleblocker. Possibly, there may be two arsonists, due to the false alarm on the other side of town. This is just my speculation.

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I think BM's playstyle is similar to mine. This is probably the second game I haven't been lynched day on day one in.

By the way, I meant arsonist was possible, but it was probably just a way to make the death scene flavorful and tasty.

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It seems to me that ONE of us knew that Saint Freak was definitely a townie.

Vote Windshipper

Too much information about who was townie on day one.

QFT FTW!

HoS: winsdhipper

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I haven't done enough reading on him to declare it a full vote yet. Once I check the rest of his posts, maybe it'll change. It was very close to a vote though.

Plus, I didn't want to base it on just one thing I read.

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Hm, not much input yet. windshipper still biggest concern, but Garnasha is inching up there...I plan to do a reread of those two and possibly more by saturday, hopefully earlier.

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I still can't decide on WS or Garnasha.

Let's see what they still have to say.

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Honestly, I don't see you as scum. You have made a few mistakes, but you've also been helpful in serious proportions. Garnasha has been the same, but a bit more brotesque about it.

Now I'm lost. I'll keep on eye on both of you but for now, no votes.

[/b]UnFoS: windshipper[/b]

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O' deary me, I need to post lots more.

Garnasha is a...strange player. It's not that I think he is bad or scum or anything. He just has a strange way of playing. I think we've all noticed this, but I just like to post useless redundant information.

In response to windshipper:
<----------Already in kindergarten.
(We just learned about the letter T today. YAY!)

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I don't want it to die, I'm just at a standstill with this game.

Methinks arsonist would be a strange addtion to this game. It's just...too normal to have one, IMO.

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I meant the game type is too normal, not the role.

Sorry, my grammar is badder then yours.

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I think he means that there probably isn't a Firefighter or anything, its just a regular SK.

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He's suspicious of everyone who isn't in his Mason group.

I hope you're not serious.

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EBWOP: In terms that he has a mason group.

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Why are we massclaim-nolynch? I'm not exactly sure how it will help...revealing our roles, and then allowing the Mafia to pick and choose?

The town is not a buffet, IMO.

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BM is making a good point on cicero.

FoS: cicero

I think we may have missed this in BM's postinig flurry:

Why are we massclaim-nolynch? I'm not exactly sure how it will help...revealing our roles, and then allowing the Mafia to pick and choose?

The town is not a buffet, IMO.

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Oh.

FoS: myself

for not understanding a comical pun.{/b]

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cicero is using innuendo to claim townie. I think that's a big scumtell.

HoS: cicero

that's bordering on a vote.

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I would like $100 every time you say you are 95% sure anyone is scum and they turn out to be town. I have student loans to pay off.

People, Battlemage is fucking with you. He is 95% sure I am town and I am now 95% sure he is scum and

pushing my mislynch

. Caught ya, ya bastard.

unvote Phate. Vote Battlemage

See what has been made red and bolded. That, my friends, is more innuendo saying he is town.

If you are town why would you hide it? I'm town. Other players are town.

Vote: cicero

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Wait, cicero he was 95% sure he himself was town? That just adds the icing to my proverbial lynch-cake.

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cicero, why did you need to bait BM? Did you need some help avoiding your own suspicion?

@BM, there actually are Mason Recruiters, though in this I doubt there is one.

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Unvote vote: BattleMage

cicero doesn't have the nards to falseclaim 'former vanilla townie turned recruited unconfirmed Mason' on day two after a Mason joke. Pushing for him to out the recruiter is amazingly bad form.

nards: what is this questionable word you speak of?

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It's not on the wiki, but i've seen it before somewhere.

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Unvote vote: BattleMage

cicero doesn't have the nards to falseclaim 'former vanilla townie turned recruited unconfirmed Mason' on day two after a Mason joke. Pushing for him to out the recruiter is amazingly bad form.

This man speaks true. I have big nards but not that big. Also I am not much of a gambit scummer yet. I dont have the experience to pull it off so why bother. I'll save that shit for a year from now when I'm way more bored and way more wise.

Two things learned from this:

1. What nards are. Okay.

2. cicero, of course you would say that. Why would you deny it and say, "oh, you were wrong, I was just pulling a gambit, lynch me now"?

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usually, i'm lucky to avoid being the dumbest person in the game

It would seem your luck hasn't changed one bit. Apparently you fail at detecting sarcasm as well.

I thought I was retarded. I must be dumber than him.

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My stuff in bold.

a) This game is dead.

No, not quite yet, players are returning and we still have some suspicion.

b) This game sucks.

Only 'cause you're being suspected

c) I'm bored.

ditto as above

d) I'm a vanilla townie with an unconfirmed mason partner

Questionable.

e) WTF good is an unconfirmed mason partner anyway. That's just dumb.

Whining about the setup is not going to help matters.

f) I know what it's good for...POKIN' STUFF!!

No comment.

May I ask what happened to Garnasha?

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But taylor is so much cuter.

Although migle would make a nice one as well...

Mod Edit's Official Vote Count!

Battle Mage -5- (Phate, Windshipper, cicero, Peers, mcpaltp)
Cicero -4- (JDodge, Battle Mage, skitzer)
Phate -2- (curiouskarmadog, Setael)
Windshipper -1- (Garnasha)

Not Voting - 3- (quickben, Lemming1607, Porochaz)

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How do we know that his role changed to mason, Setael?

We don't, unless there is a tracker role which someone claimed and I missed.

Taylor and Migle are from Kid Nation.

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OMG. It's going to thunderstorm. cicero said something truthful. Hooray!

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Well, weird people like me do.

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Thats not where I found it. I found it on the lolcats application on Facebook. Seriously.

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If Jdodge always lurks I should always lynch jdodge. I fucking hate fucking lurkers. fuck. Skitzer don't tell your parents I swore. That word just means "backgammon". Ask them what that means instead.

OMG. I’m 15, but I’m not stupid. I don’t swear, but the amount of swearing in my school in one day is more than all the swearing on MS.

In other news...

unvote

I actually don't think cicero is scum anymore. It almost as if he has been pushing his towniness so much its unlikely he is scum.

BM and cicero don't strike me as scum. I think some of the scum may be smart by letting other players argue while they just sit pretty and lurk.

I don't want to vote for one of them though because we don't have enough information on them yet.

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Correction: I'm not cicero, nor do I ever wish to be. /scream.

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^Made me laugh.
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Hooray! sadly it was a sentence, and therefore is sad...

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Is it just me or does it seem like BM hops from one player to another on suspicions? first cicero, now Peers?

FoS: BM

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Sorry, but I haven't played a major part in this game, so I wanted to wait to see what others had to say before posting.

We now know there is an Arsonist. Phate brought this up, and the majority of us claimed that we had never seen such role before. Therefore, phate is number 1 on my scum list, but I think he was close to lynching, so I'm going to hold my vote.

Next is Peers. He said in an earlier post "1/3 to 1/2 of

us

are town." It strikes me funny. Also, his claim generated by little pressure from Setael strikes me funny as well, he's definitely number 2.

Right now, we know we have a SK (Arsonist), Mafia Group, and Town. As a member of the town, I can see we are behind the eight ball here.

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Sorry, but I haven't played a major part in this game, so I wanted to wait to see what others had to say before posting.

We now know there is an Arsonist. Phate brought this up, and the majority of us claimed that we had never seen such role before. Therefore, phate is number 1 on my scum list, but I think he was close to lynching, so I'm going to hold my vote.

Next is Peers. He said in an earlier post "1/3 to 1/2 of

us

are town." It strikes me funny. Also, his claim generated by little pressure from Setael strikes me funny as well, he's definitely number 2.

Right now, we know we have a SK (Arsonist), Mafia Group, and Town. As a member of the town, I can see we are behind the eight ball here.

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This:

Umm... go Arsonist?

Along with this:

Next is Peers. He said in an earlier post "1/3 to 1/2 of us are town." It strikes me funny. Also, his claim generated by little pressure from Setael strikes me funny as well, he's definitely number 2.

Leads me to this:

vote: Peers

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EBWOP: The line "Umm... go Arsonist?" is Peers' words, the second paragraph is mine. I forgot the quote tags.

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Quicben has posted little substantial stuff, which is crucial in this part of the game.

Vote: Quickben

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Unvote

I'll have to see what Andy has to say.

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I do not feel as if I have disappeared; I just haven't had much to go on. Porochaz, it almost feels as though you are looking for a scapegoat; you seem to be sliding towards me more and more as we now have a venerable replacement for Quickben.

In other news, my vote was also of similar reasoning as Porochaz, and an attempt to maybe make this game move faster.

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I kind of believe JDodge made a mountain of it. If CKD felt so, then yeah, he should vote. CKD kind of fell off my radar when the whole list idea of mine was nullified by everyone else.

I don't know, but depending on Andycyca's analysis and any further posts, I'm easily thinking about voting you, Porochaz.

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I feel that you have been looking for a scapegoat. Yes, maybe QuickBen could have been a good lynch, but after Andycyca replaced him, you seemed to slide from him to me gradually. It seems suspicious enough to me.

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At this stage in the game, I expect you to explain your vote, JDodge.

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With the deadline tomorrow, and satisfied with Andycyca so far. I'm going to

Vote: Porochaz

Also, CKD's last post does make me feel somewhat suspicious.

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Oh never mind, I thought you were laughing at my bandwagon, but you were just laughing at JDodge's snappy retort. It makes sense now.

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Oooh...suspense!

BTW...bah.

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OMG! I was actually right about something! I actually voted for a bad guy!

Hooray!

Anyway, great game, porochaz.