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VOTE: Gamma Emerald

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Today's lynch should either be Gamma or one of the early Gamma pushers. Gamma hasn't posted anything AI but if he's town at least one of the people pushing him should be scum.

Why should he be the lynch if he hasn't posted anything AI?

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Today's lynch should either be Gamma or one of the early Gamma pushers. Gamma hasn't posted anything AI but if he's town at least one of the people pushing him should be scum.

Why should he be the lynch if he hasn't posted anything AI?

Did you like, advocate a possible ml cause at least one scum would be on the lynch? I think you'll find at least one scum on most if not all lynched anyway..

And we should prioritize lynching scum > breaking down a wagon

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VOTE: RHAZHBASH


You will be vanquished, Felt.

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wraith and boon could be scum together because they're planning to lurk together

lame...

i'm trying to form reads here.

Statements like this show you're obvious scum trying way too hard to look town.

VOTE: Mislynch

I also dislike that 'wraith and boon scum lurkers' or the 'spammy game' statements. All of this is bullshit. It's not a joke, so you mean it seriously, but it's all trash and fake statements you're making to sound active over actually contributing.

This guy is scum. Raizh is also scum, or he set himself up as the easy mislynch, and I still wanna lynch gamma. He looks kinda town here, but that means he's scum. Every time I read him, I'm wrong. Every. Game. So he's scum since he looks town, and gamma PLs are good. Would seriously PL gamma after the past 5 or so games with him.

Everything else you said and THIS is where you place your vote? This is the reachiest post ever.

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I was interested in having Gamma/Tywin as CWs

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wraith and boon could be scum together because they're planning to lurk together

lame...

i'm trying to form reads here.

Statements like this show you're obvious scum trying way too hard to look town.

VOTE: Mislynch

I also dislike that 'wraith and boon scum lurkers' or the 'spammy game' statements. All of this is bullshit. It's not a joke, so you mean it seriously, but it's all trash and fake statements you're making to sound active over actually contributing.

This guy is scum. Raizh is also scum, or he set himself up as the easy mislynch, and I still wanna lynch gamma. He looks kinda town here, but that means he's scum. Every time I read him, I'm wrong. Every. Game. So he's scum since he looks town, and gamma PLs are good. Would seriously PL gamma after the past 5 or so games with him.

Everything else you said and THIS is where you place your vote? This is the reachiest post ever.

The real reach is you trying to shade me for calling out your scum buddy.

Well you basically made the largest generalization of your life(From Mislynch simply saying:"I'm trying to form reads", see quote) then you don't admit it's a clear reach.. anyone can realize this.


Then he(Tywin) does this deflective bullshit discrediting response which shows that you only put a certain level of thought into responding when someone says something negative to you. He does the same thing to Dunn in 173/175 and it's so useless. Everyone knows what he meant. You knew what he meant. You're confident enough in the way you defend yourself so abrasively, which is cool, but it's actually disingenuous and does town no favors otherwise. I mean, I say shit like that. I should know.

The mislynch vote was awful and the majority of the game has sort of been spent on sort of pushing Gamma as a PL when you've considered him possible town as your first priority, then deciding he's not the lynch. You're now back to swiping at anyone that bats an eye at you.

Your actions make it hard for people to develop a good perception of you.

No, "the other team" is not a slip at all(ewwww), but it doesn't matter that badly because this is a fine place for a vote.


VOTE: Tywin Lannister



Alternatively like I said, I'll vote Gamma , or someone on these two wagons. I have to re read Rhazh's slot.

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Hbd WRAITH

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Claim was premature imo - can't do anything now

I'll pop back in with stuff

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@Priscila: Counter wagons to each other, at the time.




UNVOTE:

Tywin and Gamma, I think that you may be tunneled on each other here.

I have mozamis as a scumlean, but I am not townreading Zach or DrumBeats, talk to me about those reads Tywin?

Zach is null, but I am placing him as town for the moment. No reason to SR him, so I'm ignoring him atm.

Already explained drum read. I think he's town.

You had me as scum before. So what happened for me to go null.

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Where is Brian

He's not in this game, but drum is posting in a very similar manner as scum Brian.

You can(or did) scumread DrumBeats without actually addressing the substance of his posts rather than the style and meta comparison?

VOTE: Boonskiies

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I was more gut town reading Boon. I even understood his point about Drum posting like scumSkies. Hell I might even scum read Zach for his recent vote.

How does this make sense? If he had an SR on Drum he should have said something related to the slot's actual content. His Brian Skies comparison is completely empty if he has nothing else.

My vote there isn't remotely scummy. Of course, I never said it was infallible.

For the most part, I've addressed my drum read, albeit not very much. My Brian skies thing was my reasoning. Other than that I can't really explain it, so I'm kind of waiting it out until I can put it into words.

What exactly do you need wait to put into words besides the meta?

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Your 616 is misunderstanding me, DrumBeats. Nero Cain said my vote was scummy. I told him why it wasn't. That's why I said it wasn't remotely scummy, because there's no logical way to make that statement about my vote.

Although your response on Zach was pretty decent. Zach is pretty gross this game. I'd vote him. I'd OMGUS that hard.

You see this, Drum? This is you letting him piggyback on bullshit.


Boon, what you said holds literally no weight to me.

I was more gut town reading Boon. I even understood his point about Drum posting like scumSkies. Hell I might even scum read Zach for his recent vote.

How does this make sense? If he had an SR on Drum he should have said something related to the slot's actual content. His Brian Skies comparison is completely empty if he has nothing else.

My vote there isn't remotely scummy. Of course, I never said it was infallible.

For the most part, I've addressed my drum read, albeit not very much. My Brian skies thing was my reasoning. Other than that I can't really explain it, so I'm kind of waiting it out until I can put it into words.

What exactly do you need wait to put into words besides the meta?

I just had a game where I did the same thing without being able to explain it. Stuck on it, and Day 3, when I got sick and tired of everything, I force took control of the game and lynched said scum. Same thing is happening here. I don't have meta on drum. Never played. He's just scum. V

This literally translates to " I did something like this before, I'm a good town player. I'm doing it again!"

Which is you know, cool, but you didn't really answer the question or address my read in a tangible way. with the information you've provided, your vote on him is basically gut. Which is fine. Just say so. You can't do actual scummy things and not have people think you're scummy.


Case me if you want. Tell me why I'm gross, exactly. I'm not getting lynched tho so hf

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Your 616 is misunderstanding me, DrumBeats. Nero Cain said my vote was scummy. I told him why it wasn't. That's why I said it wasn't remotely scummy, because there's no logical way to make that statement about my vote.

Although your response on Zach was pretty decent. Zach is pretty gross this game. I'd vote him. I'd OMGUS that hard.

You see this, Drum? This is you letting him piggyback on bullshit.


Boon, what you said holds literally no weight to me.

I still hate referring to your own vote as "not remotely scummy". All it does is try to discredit the opposition and comes off as overly defensive imo. Also not a fan at the appeal to emotion right there about letting Boon piggyback. I definitely agree that Boon is behaving oddly, but I'm not convinced you aren't either.

your SR seems to be just problems with my speech. That's arguing semantics.

Of course I aim to discredit my opposition. I'm more of the "roll-off cliff in car trunk" type of guy, though.

AtE is normally used by the dying. My point was you've created a needless reason to SR me. Boon said I was gross this game, which implies he has other reasons to SR me. The only one he mentioned or affirmed was one that you said. You're complicating things and possibly giving me an unnecessary reason to scumread him? I don't know whether he actually believes the same logic which is faulty fmpov or hiding behind that. I already have a scumread there, but I want to be objective.

How does this make sense? If he had an SR on Drum he should have said something related to the slot's actual content. His Brian Skies comparison is completely empty if he has nothing else.

My vote there isn't remotely scummy. Of course,

I never said it was infallible

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The way I read Boons post is that he had a gut scumread on Drum but couldn't explain it. It made sense to me that he'd use an outside reference since I've done the same thing b4.

The bold is really nasty though. Welcome to my scumlist.

My intent was to imply my confidence in justifying my vote doesn't mean I have the same level of confidence in the overall read.

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My point was you've created a needless reason to SR me. Boon said I was gross this game, which implies he has other reasons to SR me. The only one he mentioned or affirmed was one that you said.

To clarify here this is definitely scummy on Boon's part IMO but it goes both ways

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Tywin, you're going to tell us who you're going on?

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Slingshot, why does it seem like you're using mozamis' push to ignore Boonskiies completely? That slot's pretty scummy.

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Tywin, you're going to tell us who you're going on?

Actually a bad idea

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Slingshot, why does it seem like you're using mozamis' push to ignore Boonskiies completely? That slot's pretty scummy.

As in Boon is scummy?
Eh I disagree. Nothing really feels or seems off there.

I have a push there. Any opinions on my earlier posts on the matter?

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Really vague and sort of sketchy answer tho

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and Moz is there!
Rhash stills looks shit for his early vote, but Boonskies is almost certainly scum.

Read for no reason on Drum, and his posts are almost completely decoid fo scum hunting/analysis.

VOTE BOONSKIES

Like Nero and Boon both laughed at this but the bold isn't actually false lol

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I know that's not what you laughed at


You ignored it but you knew that

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"reasonings"... right. But the "devoid of scumhunting/analysis" part isn't too far of a stretch, is it?

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You have said you play by town hunting, but yeah. Analysis.

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I mean, where are you doing that?

Nowhere. Nowhere at all.

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you post this when you don't even understand why Boon and I are laughing at Moz. At least I think Boon is laughing for the same reason as me.

No I know exactly why I changed the bold on purpose lol

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Zach town hunting is a viable strategy if you're good at it.

I didn't say it wasn't?

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I have a sudden urge to

vote:Zach

TOWN TO ME!

Nope! Thanks for talking with me! Is there anything you'd like to ask me?

unvote

vote: Zachstralkita

Ok, so basically all of his posts seem to be genuinely scumhunting by calling people out on their shit.

I mean, he's not wrong. Everything I've done has been me trying to find scum or town in some way. If I'm going to be considered scum here I need to be told why by people substantively. Or you know, don't tell me, tell everyone else, cause I can't get lynched without a case. And I don't envision a case on me that doesn't consist of something either fabricated or reachy.


Maybe run through your "to sort" tier, Priscila. Not an expert but I'd say I'm an awful vote in this gamestate

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LOOK AT ALL THE INFORMATION YOU HAVE

Then you have me, a small leaf in the large normal typhoon. I'm trying to do stuff , but I can't do all the stuff with all the people here and have it be meaningful

So I've interacted selectively with people. From my ISO you can probably tell who I like and don't like for town and some general idea of who my scumreads are(As I recall I've only mentioned two explicitly). There's still a bunch of people I haven't said anything to. I haven't posted a reads list. I know what conclusion you're making, but I don't know what exactly you're doing it with or in what manner. I don't know how you thought I was the most sensible person to vote here.



Your other scumreads are Drum and Mislynch coincidentally I defended those rwo. Are you associating us?

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I've told you how I've operated this game

How is the scum win condition benefiting from my play

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LOOK AT ALL THE INFORMATION YOU HAVE

Then you have me, a small leaf in the large normal typhoon. I'm trying to do stuff , but I can't do all the stuff with all the people here and have it be meaningful

So I've interacted selectively with people. From my ISO you can probably tell who I like and don't like for town and some general idea of who my scumreads are(As I recall I've only mentioned two explicitly). There's still a bunch of people I haven't said anything to. I haven't posted a reads list. I know what conclusion you're making, but I don't know what exactly you're doing it with or in what manner. I don't know how you thought I was the most sensible person to vote here.


Your other scumreads are Drum and Mislynch coincidentally I defended those rwo. Are you associating us?

the meaningfulness will be assessed by us. You just need to do stuff.

Ive been doing "stuff" just not "everything that can possibly be done"


When I say that I don't mean I've done nothing, I have a small amount of posts than should be warranted for the scale of the game but ALL of what I've spent my time doing is scumhunting or similar. I don't think you can say that for everyone?

Pathos and indignation is exceedingly easy to fake as scum..

What's not exceedingly easy is getting 11 votes on ya boy lmfaoo

His appeal to "the gamestate" is hot air. Not a good basis for a townread.

Well bullshit, you act like I'm using "gamestate" as a buzzword or something.

Super excited for your case later, I'll just be here drawing pentagrams in goat blood if you need me.


@Drum

Town: viewtopic.php?f=23&t=69360



Scum: viewtopic.php?f=55&t=69849





Gl applying meta to me tho

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I feel like there have been a lot of instances here of Zach trying to tell us rather than show us that he is town/he would be a bad lynch because there is no reason he is scummy. Clearly none of us are going to see reasons why we are scummy, so we know your opinion on a lynch of yourself, so why state it so much. Again, it could be meta though, so I'm not sure

You're correct, no one's said why I'm scum (not a lot of people have addressed me in general) so me continuously swiping at thin air as I've been doing a little is unreasonable.

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Where my top goon at

@Dunnstral

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Maybe say hi

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You haven't posted in 2 days guy, rather UNUSUAL OF YOU...

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You haven't posted in 2 days guy, rather UNUSUAL OF YOU...

Sorry I left you with these guys alone

Why don't you give me something to work with here

I dunno dude, comment on anything I've done at all?

You realize we both pushed Tywin early on, right? So did Priscila.

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I asked you to interact with me you fuck. We agreed(at one point) on a SR this game which doesn't really happen unless we're hydra?

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That's a... really bad saying for many reasons


Whatever if you don't want to talk about reads then expect me to understand why you do anything

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How does me wanting to talk = "intent focus"

You say that like the result of interaction would be you scumreading me, which doesn't make sense

And let's be real dude the last time I rolled scum was a million years ago. I think Large 201. that's why I may be acting like that to you

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You should leave the prior ones and just do the currents, I'm interested in your reads

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I meant if you planned to fix the links in all of your reads first

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Wait those two are the only broken ones?

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Alignment indicative. Hi

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Wait those two are the only broken ones?

So...you don't read my reads, is what you are saying.
[Facepalm]

Didn't click (all) links, compared thoughts with what I read and liked some of your trains of thought

When Dunn said mulchs links are broken I assumed he meant them all

Then gamma says I know why which makes it more enigmatic

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I wrote up a big case on you, Zach, then I decided I didn't feel good about it. You can go back into the to-sort pile.

Why do all that to not do it? I didn't want you to case me just so could talk shit to you. I genuinely never knew what the bulk of your SR comprised.



But it's completely okay, because you got back on *snaps* the right track.

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@nero zach was a player who i didnt have a read on after my read through, similar to waffles and boonskies and mislynch his posts had not really made an impact on me one way or another.

i have reread his iso and i definitely think he came across as overly defensive after you said that you might think of voting for him or whatever you said.

I acknowledged I was being defensive in one post, it's something I have to work on. Happens.

i also find some of the ways he's defending himself to be weird. talking about how he hasn't been mafia in a long time,

As we're both aware that post is from a conversation, I mean I think the posts are close to each other on the consecutive pages.. Said conversation should indicate there was a context you're not aware of. You just generalized it.

,how he is obviously town.

ok

talking about how hes not a good vote in this "gamestate" which made me LOL. wtf does that mean.

Priscila said basically the same thing you did here, but didn't say what that meant


You didn't either...


Hmm, well I've done the necessary detective work and:

It means nothing, at all

"gamestate" is not hieroglyphics.... . It's a word that covers a lot of words I don't want to write out because there's no other way to convey my thoughts? It's not like a secret word or anything, it's never caused any issues for me in the past. If you're confused by my meaning on something be specific please. Unless you expect me to know your thought processes and the way you analyze things or what terms you use or what you...think.

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Usually I would say a vote is good if its on someone you think is mafia. I wouldn't find myself thinking about a "gamestate" if I'm town. also this is another very defensive post.

Call it defensive if you want but I don't know how you expect me to communicate fluid and not abrasively when you haven't elaborated on what you exactly take issue with and act like everyone knows except me, that's sort of what it feels like.

Usually I would say a vote is good if its on someone you think is mafia. I wouldn't find myself thinking about a "gamestate" if I'm town.

If I'm town the vote on me isn't good then is it? That's what I'm saying. FMPOV. I can't respond speaking from someone else's.

You know, you

did

say you didn't know what gamestate meant, so you probably wouldn't be thinking about it, actually. Got me there I guess


Of course I know how my posts look, you're not supposed to take my word for anything but why am I inherently scummy simply for my manner of speech?


Everyone posts differently. Shit everyone reads tone differently over the internet. Doesn't make sense really.

What of my actual pushes and stuff are scummy? I'll take the "defensive" label.

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Lol

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Nero, you're going to be disappointed.

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Nero, you're going to be disappointed.

do you still think boonskies is mafia? what are some of your other reads?

Yes definitely I'm still on that wagon, I'm glad Fro99er knows this as well


I TR drumbeats, mulch, Slingshot, mozamis, Priscila, PereV and Fykus off the top of my head


Rhazh is a SR as well and CptPicard

Nos can go either way but I'd say scum lean, he's acting too ... not sketchy

Nero, you're going to be disappointed.

Stop AtE.
It just makes me SR you more.

SlingshotWaffles, you're going to be disappointed.

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PeregrineV lurks as town I believe

Boonskiies has 3 votes


In the words of mozamis "pos scum"

Nero Cain is on trial for aiding and abetting pos scum a crime punishable by stoning

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Boonskiies has 3 votes

lol i read that as POSTS. but ok, he has 3 votes. What is your point?

The vote count says 2! Fake news



No but really, what the fuck? You want to spend your time on me?


@Priscilla what made you change your mind?

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??????

So Boons has 3 votes. Whats your point?

I want him lynched? Duh

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??????

So Boons has 3 votes. Whats your point?

I want him lynched? Duh

ok, I get that.

its

No but really, what the fuck? You want to spend your time on me?

that I don't get.

you are my #1 scumread and Boons isn't a scum read at all. So...YES. I am going to spend my time on you but its not something to be flattered over.

I don't really scumread you as you can tell by that post

I mean, it's going to be really boring
For you, I'm going to see another lynch happen probably

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There are many players in this game. You cannot create a wagon from nothing.

Nero Cain would beg to differ

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If Drun's links in 448 are broken how did Priscila dismiss it so easily as a scumpost

Cause you know you have to understand what he's referencing and see if you agree


Did you cross check the posts in thread or just leave them?

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My vote on you wasn't naked lol

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Boonskiies I have no clue wtf ur talking about... how potent do they make crack these days?


That case on me is like one giant misrep


lmao at "analysis"

Considering how you fabricated motives for basically everything I did while discrediting me at the same time I don't see how a post like that would be hard for you as scum.


It's not like I consider the giant read wall to be AI, he said this is what he does day one, it could easily done as both alignments

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?? He literally rewrote my actions exactly to fit his agenda

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@Fykus - There's something weird going on with you, Dunn, Tywin, and zach. Something just keeps me tying you guys together? I don't think you all are necessarily scum, so my mind went to potential neighborhood. I feel like it would have been outed by this time, though. Idk. Something's weird.

Pray for a Masonry.

A 4 man masonry would be broken af

I was hoping we could be more discreet

nope looks like he caught the scum team in 1 post

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Boonskiies I have no clue wtf ur talking about... how potent do they make crack these days?


That case on me is like one giant misrep


lmao at "analysis"

Considering how you fabricated motives for basically everything I did while discrediting me at the same time I don't see how a post like that would be hard for you as scum.


It's not like I consider the giant read wall to be AI, he said this is what he does day one, it could easily done as both alignments

... I should have posted that case on you. Good thing I saved it in my drafts.

Lmfaooo so you changed your mind twice?
I can't deal with you people hahahahaha


Priscila's case makes more sense than anything Boon said in his paragraph on me

Probably because it's not made up

I can see how you came to your conclusions because you know, I'm a pretty shady guy in general. Most people think I'm off without me trying to be. Like, my posts are contrived? If you don't know how I act in the first place how do you decide what I fake and what I don't and what my drive is? Everything is "shade-throwing" or "discrediting" in my posts to you. I guess we use those terms differently. That tone is literally how I post to most people. I dunno I sarcasm a lot

I'm not concerned cause I've only been mislynched like twice I think. I can see people sheeping you because there's finally a case to sheep.


I'd rather respond to boonskies paragraph on me cause it says absolutely nothing and I have to point out why apparently, fuckloas kf work on my phone






@Drum CptPicard and Rhazh are some of my other scumreads, I don't believe that Rhazh is lynchbait player but he's a scum lean not a full SR atm

Fwiw I'm more of a town hunter day one

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Spoiler: Boonskies Has A Great Case On Me. It Makes A Lot Of Sense.

Zachstralkita - So this guy...was against the other team as a slip, votes Tywin, and says he'd vote Gamma also? Wtf is this even.

Right off the bat you do something that makes no sense. This clearly means I thought they were both scum at the time? Cause people have different reads? What part of that prompts any confusion whatsoever? Once again, I must be out of the fucking loop.

Stated that Tywin's claim was premature, and then unvotes Tywin 100 posts later and questions Tywin about why he went from scum to null? Really, that's when you decide to unvote?

Maybe I didn't use enough walls or big posts to make this known, but Tywin's play was really scummy to me, and he addressed my initial scumread on him in NO way(which instilled a lot of confidence in me! haha! No.) before he claimed at L-3, then called us bad or something?

I don't unvote people just because they claim PR but there was really no reason to lynch there today so yes, I did unvote him 100 posts later.

Then he moves on to me without actually analyzing, he just kind of posts crap.

Do you, do you write fiction? How do you make stuff up so well?. He Provides no evidence to this effect to back up what he says(you can't because that's not how I voted him at all, uh, look at my ISO?) but because he said it so confidently you can all believe him.

When I'm generally not a presence in the game yet, it's usually a guarantee that scum will target me, and I do indeed believe it was no different here. Zach's reasoning for pushing me is more fabricated than any of the other people who pushed me. He stated [This literally translates to " I did something like this before, I'm a good town player. I'm doing it again!"]. This post actually states that he sees me as town doing this. Sure, you can discredit that as a crap reasoning, but in doing so, you pushed me as town

I really like this part because of how boldly you said this shit. Let's take a look at the interaction as a whole and the rest of my quote, two things you somehow failed to mention.

Boon, what you said holds literally no weight to me.

I was more gut town reading Boon. I even understood his point about Drum posting like scumSkies. Hell I might even scum read Zach for his recent vote.

How does this make sense? If he had an SR on Drum he should have said something related to the slot's actual content. His Brian Skies comparison is completely empty if he has nothing else.

My vote there isn't remotely scummy. Of course, I never said it was infallible.

For the most part, I've addressed my drum read, albeit not very much. My Brian skies thing was my reasoning. Other than that I can't really explain it, so I'm kind of waiting it out until I can put it into words.

What exactly do you need wait to put into words besides the meta?

I just had a game where I did the same thing without being able to explain it. Stuck on it, and Day 3, when I got sick and tired of everything, I force took control of the game and lynched said scum. Same thing is happening here. I don't have meta on drum. Never played. He's just scum. V

This literally translates to " I did something like this before, I'm a good town player. I'm doing it again!"

Which is you know, cool, but you didn't really answer the question or address my read in a tangible way. with the information you've provided, your vote on him is basically gut. Which is fine. Just say so. You can't do actual scummy things and not have people think you're scummy.

So no, I wasn't "pushing you as town" at all. I told you what you said because instead of answering my question you told me, like, something you did in a game that wasn't this one, as if I were supposed to leave it up to your "ability" when I don't know you. And again no game related content reason ever given when I asked you why you scumread him back then. You know, an answer that wasn't a fucking answer.


How did I push you as town? Completely false motive. Misreps galore.

Funny thing is, everyone's biggest reasoning for voting me is lack of analysis, so good luck making up more reasons after this post. Fucked up targeting me the way you did. This is a scum slot.

Well, I definitely said this to you but I don't know who else did besides uh, I think moz. You either missed or ignored the point though, because at the time we both said that you hadn't "analyzed" jack shit in the game. How was that made up in any fashion? And we're scummy for having observed that? Colorful read wall = analysis? As we can already tell by this "case" you have, it's not hard to make up whatever you want and say it just because you present it well. Nope, I'm still not scum. Also, lol. I "targeted" you def.

He also stated that I scum read Mislynch, someone he defended, as a reasoning, which I never really stated any read on Mislynch.

No sir, I said this to Priscila. She responded like 3 posts later. U getting too excited champ

Also, in response to Drum, he stated that drum was right that nobody has stated why he's scum. That, to me, looks like scum who is salty about being scum read for false/non existent reasons.

What am I supposed to respond to if people try to lynch me and they don't say why at all? The fact that you attribute it to me being scum is ridiculous, both alignments do that.

And I've felt that in scum games before, so of course I'd do it here so I can get lynched cause I'm a fucking idiot, right?

I expect him to try and discredit the entirety of this post the most, along with Moz.

The cherry on top. You say this like you're fucking forseeing a prophecy RIGHT after writing the most bold-faced bullshit I've ever seen as a scum case on me. I want to applaud.

The type of exceedingly disingenuous but still open shit I aim to do as scum. It was a good post. I liked it, I mean.

I don't think there's a way I can articulate myself in a more precise manner. I guess I can still be a lynch people can say they're "fine with" and receive no scrutiny though.

[Zachstralkita]

TALK THAT SHIT

[Zachstralkita]

U don't even k ow what I mean

[Zachstralkita]

who are you scum reading, rhaz?

I've already stated SRs on Gamma and moz, and Zach is getting on my scum radar. Reasoning coming after he answers my question. Can't say what I'm looking for in his answer because scum would be able to play around it if I did.

Am I to take this as saying your read on me is dependent on how I answer one post?

Cause it looks like you scumread me already, when before this point you were tring me

[Zachstralkita]

Rhazh is a SR as well and CptPicard

@Drum CptPicard and Rhazh are some of my other scumreads, I don't believe that Rhazh is lynchbait player but he's a scum lean not a full SR atm

@Zach what changed your mind?

Mind you one very ambiguous post that you appear to be looking for one answer to

I think I'll pass and see where this gets me

[Zachstralkita]

Ewwwwwww

[Zachstralkita]

The mozamis wagon is all around bad vibes. Like government cover up sort of deal.

[Zachstralkita]

Can you explain that terminology please and thank you

Well, let's just say the majority of the gentlemen on that wagon are the sort I'd take precautions being affiliated with, lest I end up on a news headline.

[Zachstralkita]

Rhazh wagon way better



Moz wagon is disgusting everyone's super suspect on that wagon for one


Cmon GAMMA moz wagon with that many votes should imply most people think he's scum, which is a little QUESTIONABLE

I certainly think it's a low effort vote plus tr mozamis

[Zachstralkita]

Putting aside my feelings on Rhazh that wagon still comprises mostly town

[Zachstralkita]

Mulch if I'm talking about how I feel about a wagon the people on the wagon aren't the ONLY thing I consider lol I just emphasized it for the situation

moz, I said "TR". I was never scumreading you

[Zachstralkita]

if Pris is Town she'll probably be able to turn the wagon away from me.

Sorry, there is nothing I can do. Scum has manipulated the wagons so that both leading wagons are mislynches. No one wants to lynch scum today. If people follow me, we will lynch scum. But so far, no one wants to follow me.

unvote

vote: titus

This sort of rubs me the wrong way besides the obvious "mislynch" talk, you say that like lynches you don't want benefit us in no way. You also say that like lynches you don't want are also scum driven, unless you mean explicitly for this situation.


But I am one of the people fine with a Titus slot flashwagon if we should absolutely need to

I don't trust boonskies here

follow your heart


and my will

[Zachstralkita]

Do you associate moz and I?

[Zachstralkita]

Do you associate moz and I?

Hey Zach, do any LAMISTING lately?

You were wrong about that last time



Town can "LAMIST" anyway. What's the issue

[Zachstralkita]

Boonskiies, rhazh, your slot, Pim, maybe whymafia

Nero can also move to the scum pile for just calling me scum in every other post and not having cased me yet



Maybe go into your Priscilla read more?

[Zachstralkita]

Why do people want to lynch Nos again? I liked his Mulch interaction

[Zachstralkita]

VOTE: rhazh

See if you think my Boonskiies read is founded or I'm just making shit up. He's the person I pushed the most in my ISO I believe

[Zachstralkita]

UNVOTE:


I mean CptPicard was lurky and scummy

Titus doesn't really make sense for that reason, she's going to be reasonably active anyway

And I haven't seen her do any thing except normal Titus maneuvres since she replaced in


Side note I'll have to agree with Nosferatu's posts on the matter, it looks like Mulch is discrediting him, it looks kinda bad

[Zachstralkita]

We need to work something out though I'd rather not lynch moz


I dunno what D1 town's obsession is with taking players that would be policy compromise lynches at best and making them main lynches. its low effort

[Zachstralkita]

Zach :
I "kinda" agree
It looks "kinda" bad

This is a perfect example of doubtcast language

Okay what I meant to say was it makes you look like a really scummy fuck but I didn't because that interaction is one thing


The fact that you have to again point out semantics as most people have done sucks. I doubt you would have said anything at all about me if I was commenting on a situation you weren't involved in.

I dunno what D1 town's obsession is with taking players that would be policy compromise lynches at best and making them main lynches. its low effort

I hope you are not including me in that.

It should be really clear what I mean


So no

I'm not

[Zachstralkita]

Oh, don't use me as an example

[Zachstralkita]

unvote

vote: nosferatu

I'm gonna need you to stop

[Zachstralkita]

sorry for being lame. Real life stuff has been a pain.
what is going on? We any nearer a Rhash or Boonskies lynch?

Rhazh claimed vig

You and I might be the only two people who think boonskies is scum

[Zachstralkita]

Spoiler: Boonskies Has A Great Case On Me. It Makes A Lot Of Sense.

Zachstralkita - So this guy...was against the other team as a slip, votes Tywin, and says he'd vote Gamma also? Wtf is this even.

Right off the bat you do something that makes no sense. This clearly means I thought they were both scum at the time? Cause people have different reads? What part of that prompts any confusion whatsoever? Once again, I must be out of the fucking loop.

Stated that Tywin's claim was premature, and then unvotes Tywin 100 posts later and questions Tywin about why he went from scum to null? Really, that's when you decide to unvote?

Maybe I didn't use enough walls or big posts to make this known, but Tywin's play was really scummy to me, and he addressed my initial scumread on him in NO way(which instilled a lot of confidence in me! haha! No.) before he claimed at L-3, then called us bad or something?

I don't unvote people just because they claim PR but there was really no reason to lynch there today so yes, I did unvote him 100 posts later.

Then he moves on to me without actually analyzing, he just kind of posts crap.

Do you, do you write fiction? How do you make stuff up so well?. He Provides no evidence to this effect to back up what he says(you can't because that's not how I voted him at all, uh, look at my ISO?) but because he said it so confidently you can all believe him.

When I'm generally not a presence in the game yet, it's usually a guarantee that scum will target me, and I do indeed believe it was no different here. Zach's reasoning for pushing me is more fabricated than any of the other people who pushed me. He stated [This literally translates to " I did something like this before, I'm a good town player. I'm doing it again!"]. This post actually states that he sees me as town doing this. Sure, you can discredit that as a crap reasoning, but in doing so, you pushed me as town

I really like this part because of how boldly you said this shit. Let's take a look at the interaction as a whole and the rest of my quote, two things you somehow failed to mention.

Boon, what you said holds literally no weight to me.

I was more gut town reading Boon. I even understood his point about Drum posting like scumSkies. Hell I might even scum read Zach for his recent vote.

How does this make sense? If he had an SR on Drum he should have said something related to the slot's actual content. His Brian Skies comparison is completely empty if he has nothing else.

My vote there isn't remotely scummy. Of course, I never said it was infallible.

For the most part, I've addressed my drum read, albeit not very much. My Brian skies thing was my reasoning. Other than that I can't really explain it, so I'm kind of waiting it out until I can put it into words.

What exactly do you need wait to put into words besides the meta?

I just had a game where I did the same thing without being able to explain it. Stuck on it, and Day 3, when I got sick and tired of everything, I force took control of the game and lynched said scum. Same thing is happening here. I don't have meta on drum. Never played. He's just scum. V

This literally translates to " I did something like this before, I'm a good town player. I'm doing it again!"

Which is you know, cool, but you didn't really answer the question or address my read in a tangible way. with the information you've provided, your vote on him is basically gut. Which is fine. Just say so. You can't do actual scummy things and not have people think you're scummy.

So no, I wasn't "pushing you as town" at all. I told you what you said because instead of answering my question you told me, like, something you did in a game that wasn't this one, as if I were supposed to leave it up to your "ability" when I don't know you. And again no game related content reason ever given when I asked you why you scumread him back then. You know, an answer that wasn't a fucking answer.


How did I push you as town? Completely false motive. Misreps galore.

Funny thing is, everyone's biggest reasoning for voting me is lack of analysis, so good luck making up more reasons after this post. Fucked up targeting me the way you did. This is a scum slot.

Well, I definitely said this to you but I don't know who else did besides uh, I think moz. You either missed or ignored the point though, because at the time we both said that you hadn't "analyzed" jack shit in the game. How was that made up in any fashion? And we're scummy for having observed that? Colorful read wall = analysis? As we can already tell by this "case" you have, it's not hard to make up whatever you want and say it just because you present it well. Nope, I'm still not scum. Also, lol. I "targeted" you def.

He also stated that I scum read Mislynch, someone he defended, as a reasoning, which I never really stated any read on Mislynch.

No sir, I said this to Priscila. She responded like 3 posts later. U getting too excited champ

Also, in response to Drum, he stated that drum was right that nobody has stated why he's scum. That, to me, looks like scum who is salty about being scum read for false/non existent reasons.

What am I supposed to respond to if people try to lynch me and they don't say why at all? The fact that you attribute it to me being scum is ridiculous, both alignments do that.

And I've felt that in scum games before, so of course I'd do it here so I can get lynched cause I'm a fucking idiot, right?

I expect him to try and discredit the entirety of this post the most, along with Moz.

The cherry on top. You say this like you're fucking forseeing a prophecy RIGHT after writing the most bold-faced bullshit I've ever seen as a scum case on me. I want to applaud.

The type of exceedingly disingenuous but still open shit I aim to do as scum. It was a good post. I liked it, I mean.

I don't think there's a way I can articulate myself in a more precise manner. I guess I can still be a lynch people can say they're "fine with" and receive no scrutiny though.

"transparent honest town"

[Zachstralkita]

I'd compromise on WM Titus

[Zachstralkita]

VOTE: WhyMafia

[Zachstralkita]

You're a vig?

[Zachstralkita]

UNVOTE:


What's the name of your role?

[Zachstralkita]

I'd compromise on WM Titus

You didnt give any indication of a read of me before this. And all of a sudden just follow Titus because she looks town and claims a PR? I don't like this

Unfortunately at the time you were the least sucky option of the other options that sucked


But now it looks like that's not the case, I just want Boonskiies to confirm whether or not it's a direct vigilante cc before I vote Rhazh

[Zachstralkita]

Just don't do anything reckless like shoot me haha aha ha h....

[Zachstralkita]

Wth is with mush wagon?

Honestly I agree with him and Priscilla on the claim but I also don't know how indicative boonskies being weird is

We don't really have time to find out what boons role is

Why didn't he just shoot Rhazh? I dunno.
He says "my role can kill" but the word vigilante is never mentioned.

But an even better question is


Why tf are we not lynching in the ccs?

First of all, I'm probably gonna be nightkilled after my claim so lynching me is pointless.

Ewwwwww...

VOTE: Rhazh

[Zachstralkita]

The ccs have to be sorted


Boonskies should have been pressed for a fullclaim though idk why the fuck no one cared, he should in all respects be lynched if you flip town. It's unlikely that you're both town imo


You even said it should be a 1v1. Well it's happening.

[Zachstralkita]

I said I would 1v1 boon before I realized he claimed nk immune. No chance I'm gonna shoot a bp claim.

He claimed nk immune " " it's basically a mystery role

He didn't even really claim for... what reason? All he's said is that it kills. You should be the most skeptical since he called into question the integrity of your claim.

Odd rxn imo

[Zachstralkita]

Titus it's plurality lynch

[Zachstralkita]

Wait this is a normal? How can that be true?

I mean it's in the OP. I'm assuming that's allowed.

[Zachstralkita]

Yeah my fault but scum doesn't really make a claim the way Boon did, I suppose that's what the Rhazh lynch is supposed to tel us

I'm not sure that's what Rhazh would have said himself though



So let me get this straight: boonskies claimed vig for PV?

So this game had 2 vig and a non consecutive doctor so far? Did whymafia claim rb or is that a joke

And you guys shot mush? Wtf.. ok I get it now

There's 2/3 roles in your neighborhood and you're not the scum team? 2/4? It's possible there's one scum in ther

Fuck I need to catch up fully

@boon (and rest of neighborhood): You do realize that BOTH major wagons were town? That means that scum has an equal chance of appearing on the Mush wagon, or even a vanity vote, because they can townread the crap out of RHazh and still get a town mislynch

i was going to say this and more but

The claim is 1shot bp weak vig so... nothing I can do




Why does Boonskiies not die over Titus after claiming a killing role? I wonder if she still went on him

I just don't like how this has panned out

[Zachstralkita]

And since I trust Boonskiies to read Whymafia, Nero and Frog due to meta, I am going to treat those players all as town as long as Boonskiies says so.

Lol

VOTE: Priscila

take this OMGUS

[Zachstralkita]

And since I trust Boonskiies to read Whymafia, Nero and Frog due to meta, I am going to treat those players all as town as long as Boonskiies says so.

Lol

VOTE: Priscila

take this OMGUS

What is the point of this vote?

Well let me just start by telling you

Sorry Rhazh. I tried.

I tried to soft to Titus yesterday that I was confirmed innocent to my hood but she would not understand. Everyone in our neighbourhood is town, so if there is another neighbourhood - there is very likely scum in that hood and you should at least consider claiming.

vote: Zach

This post made me feel like spongebob in rock bottom. where do i even begin


4 person neighborhood

there's an IC and a weak vig , 2 town PRs

that's half the neighborhood

You start by saying "everyone in our neighborhood is town" most of you seem to be operating under that assumption. which is 4 people. so 4 conf townies?? and 2 tprs?



ok


Then you do the thing:

so if there is another neighbourhood - there is very likely scum in that hood and you should at least consider claiming.

LMAO WHAT IS THIS EVEN. why would there reasonably be another neighborhood if you have an all town neighborhood with two PRs? we've already had 4 prs claim. Titus is dead.

the other "neighborhood" would have to be the entire scum team

it doesnt make sense to have one neighborhood full of town and one with like mostly scum

this post .. i don't even know if LAMIST is the right thing to say but it doesn't make sense at all from a town pov

and no i don't believe that their entire neighborhood is town so this is where i'm voting


I claim VT, by the way. I wish vig would have shot me and maybe scum would have tried to push mush today.

I like, already illustrated a few times why there's no reason I'm scum in the least, like you had to make up things. boonskies is town apparently so i wish he just would have shot me and cleared that one up. nero cain also has a hard sr on me with zero foundation..

I'll run through some read stuff later but i think we should lynch Priscila

[Zachstralkita]

Zach,I understand your skepticism, but we were doubtful that we were all town as well. The IC claimed really early, prompting the weak vig to claim as well. We then realized that Creature wanted us to be suspicious of ourselves and kill each other off. We came to the conclusion we were likely all town. Then the weak vig gambited and we almost know for 99% certainty that we are all town

I can see how you say this but that's not what i think at all

like tywin's role dies if he hits scum

hypothetically if he were in a neighborhood then would that whole neighborhood be town clear on the same logic that he's supposed to sort through his neighborhood

this is the only decent place for my vote at the moment. if town puts together a decent lynch pool I might consider it but I don't consider all four of you town



and priscilla's post was pretty scummy if you consider the setup implications at all - like there's no reason for that sort of statement to have been made.

[Zachstralkita]

There are 1 scum in the group: I think this is the very most likely scenario. It is not fair to the scumteam, in fact it is an advantage to the scumtea because they basically get a spye on the inside. It makes sense because then Boon would basically have a 50-50 shot of shooting the non confirmed townie townie and the scum in the group, and would have to rely on reads. It would mean that they would be able to adapt to everyone, but also take risks to not getting exposed. The spy on the inside, and knowledge of the confirmed townie, would make up for the fact that the other 3 would bascailyl be confriemd if Boon claimed etc and the amount of power roles we seem to have. It would make it so it could be a normal game, and would add a great twist for the mod to see as well (I don't this is angleshooting, but it makes sense to me, if you know what I mean). Of course, in this scenario, as all 4 of the people (or 3 people and the evil one) "believe" that they are all town, it would most likely have to be a RELALY good player in this situation.

I can see this happening tbh
But we'll cross that bridge when we need to

we need to cross the bridge now

[Zachstralkita]

Actually Nos I liked that Mulch post.

@Mulch assuming there's one scum who is it most likely? The scenario where there's no scum in the neighborhood doesn't seem likely to me

[Zachstralkita]

@Mulch assuming there's one scum who is it most likely?

the fact that you have to ask that question is the issue. if he spent 30 minutes figuring out "gee there might be scum here" the least he could do is figure out who it is, but he's shown no indication of attempting to do so.

i mean ok what do you think about what i said about priscila being that 1

[Zachstralkita]

Case me if you want. Tell me why I'm gross, exactly.

I'm not getting lynched tho so hf

I claim VT, by the way.

I wish vig would have shot me and maybe scum would have tried to push mush today.

I construed your comment on d1 to mean that you were a PR, but then you claimed vt today. Care to explain?

No sir, I said I wasn't getting lynched and I meant it ))$))$

[Zachstralkita]

Tbh
I think if I actually try I could get out of my tunnels
But I'm not letting Tywin go. He wasn't even this scummy in 1905. Do you agree Boonskiies?

I have my skepticism on him. I kind of wanted to shoot him N3 if he wasn't conftown by then. Which is why I want to stay alive toNight.

But.... wouldn't you die if you shot scum!Tywin in this scenario?

[Zachstralkita]

Tbh
I think if I actually try I could get out of my tunnels
But I'm not letting Tywin go. He wasn't even this scummy in 1905. Do you agree Boonskiies?

I have my skepticism on him. I kind of wanted to shoot him N3 if he wasn't conftown by then. Which is why I want to stay alive toNight.

But.... wouldn't you die if you shot scum!Tywin in this scenario?

I would be okay dying N3.

well I have to admit this one was a curveball




I suppose this is a good time to mention I thought Fykus' avi was a fox for the longest time.


A fucking fox. Man

[Zachstralkita]

Looks like Fykus is the mislynch of the day

[Zachstralkita]

Looks like Fykus is the mislynch of the day

Can you actually shut up?

If ur going to let the Town Bloc of Terror take the wheel tell me now so I can dayvig myself



I'm not sure you know what AtE means either, that or you just like using buzzwords

[Zachstralkita]

Looks like Fykus is the mislynch of the day

Can you actually shut up?

If ur going to let the Town Bloc of Terror take the wheel tell me now so I can dayvig myself



I'm not sure you know what AtE means either, that or you just like using buzzwords

this might be a scum slip. Idk why a townie wouldn't be okay with a town block being in game.

Oh you're the town bloc of terror because the town is the one you terrorize. I mean not on purpose but you know. This lynch pool is rieoirrnjefjfjj

I guess pim slot is a decent lynch

[Zachstralkita]

Okay you're really rude. Why do you feel the need to ba an ableist prick?

Can you tell me how I'm being ableist? I don't really see any discrimination here.

Also I have a disability myself.

You are insulting people with disabilities and conditions
And just because you are one doesn't give you immunity,

How am I insulting people??

After I tell you not to use "autistic" in that context you choose to use "diabetic". That's just terrible.

Autistic makes sense, and diabetic was sarcasm.

How does it make sense?
FYI I'm an inch from vote parking on you for this.

Autistic people often display repetitive behaviours.
Zach has shown a repetition of AtE statements across many posts and games.

ie point being you're calling me autistic which is sort of the issue for reasons you should be able to see with any sort of common sense? Apparently the acceptable field for that is csgo matchmaking or cod. It kinda makes you look like a cunt anywhere else

I mean I don't care but find something better to whine about me? At most I've been called out for AtE like twice in my games. Meaning all the consistent "AtE" you find issue with is basically semantics

Like one, usually dying people use AtE. Two, whoever calls someone out for AtE is always trying to discredit them in some way regardless of their alignment


No clue how you apply the term but you also appear to think I AtE intentionally lol, this is hilarious


I'd hate to see your reaction to frogger posts


Speaking of fro99er, how do people not townread that? that's pure frustrated town venom right there

@WM you think it's cool that Nero can just coast the whole game and occasionally drop my name? If you do I won't mention it

[Zachstralkita]

Drumbeats, I have been confirmed innocent to the three others in my neighbourhood. You are sadly going to have to find another scumread to manufacture.

Except only one person in your neighborhood has apparently. Boon just said that three of you haave been claiming it to keep the scum off of the trail if there's not one among you, which is smart. However, I'm not going to give any of you the "confirmed innocent" pass until it's revealed who it is. Clearing four people at once based on heresay is terrible ass play, and without seeing the gambit and borderline mod action thing Boon was talking about I can't judge it for myself. Your behavior screams scum, until there's something conclusive to tell me otherwise, I think you're scum.

Holy fuck thank you

I'm voting there already

[Zachstralkita]

so mulch Fykus is towny but he's also scummy?

So let's say I were a PR, since everyone else doesn't see how giving 4 people a town pass is completely unreasonable, I'd want to keep my mouth shut. But I'm not a PR.


Nevermind that, outing PR "softs" is NAI at best because you can literally make up people "softing"

It's happened to me before


2) Fykus hasn't really been scummy to ME, so that's why you think I'm scummy for saying he's not?

For not thinking he's scummy the way YOU are?

So you basically did a really bad preflip but it's ok because you were like "god damn it I hate doing preflips but"

Jw.

3) how can you compare that slot to low hanging fruit? I normally advocate against lurker lynches, but someone not participating as far as everyone else is concerned when there's a wealth of information at this point in the game can die for advancing scum wincon. It's not like I hard pushed there lol


I'm ok with a Gamma slot lynch too

[Zachstralkita]

you only addressed like 3 things at me

i was saying how the really towny thing fykus did was nai


I wasnt talking about Fykus when I was talking about LHF, we were both talking about Pim slot.

[Zachstralkita]

Lmfaoooooooo

Command this is echelon whiskey six

Operation wagon priscila

[Zachstralkita]

is a GO

[Zachstralkita]

And no I am not at all surprised, the way that Boonskiies' reads have changed flippantly whenever he pleased, like how calls Frog scum when he replaced out and Drumbeats lockscum when he points out the slip, and how he says in the hood that he is only going to shoot at town, this player has been rather obviscum for a while and only by the strength of his claim have I ignored it.

Lmao I like how he was obvtown all of yesterday to you pre-claim

[Zachstralkita]

Y'all wanna lynch Priscilla? Her play from last page completely made me think differently of the all town in our neighborhood.

I said this at Day start


Well not the last part the "there's a scum in the fucking neighborhood and I think it's Priscila" part


But you pushing her like this Is rather confusing

[Zachstralkita]

Why is Drum confscum again?

Y'all wanna lynch Priscilla? Her play from last page completely made me think differently of the all town in our neighborhood.

I said this at Day start


Well not the last part the "there's a scum in the fucking neighborhood and I think it's Priscila" part


But you pushing her like this Is rather confusing

She outed the mod conf town plan I put into motions by stating she was one of the other ones. She even claimed to be the mod conf town earlier,

To clarify is this during or after when everyone was claiming they were the conf


Pedit I mean I never saw a sensible reason that scum!you would vote town Priscila. Why draw attn if you already are considered conf off a vig claim?

[Zachstralkita]

Weren't you talking about the paranoia of scum being in the neighborhood? If there is, it's Priscila. Since she's not the conf mod town or the one who did the borderline thing, that makes the other two conf town.

Oh my god this pings me really bad for mulch

Nosferatu come here LMAO

[Zachstralkita]

@Zach - what do you think of Priscila claiming vanilla instead of neighbor?

I'm still voting there, but I'm not sure if I'm getting the implication right. If she claimed "vanilla" to you in the neighborhood would you not take it to mean she was a neighbor with no other abilities


Also why don't you think I'm bussing or something? Don't you scumread me

Weren't you talking about the paranoia of scum being in the neighborhood? If there is, it's Priscila. Since she's not the conf mod town or the one who did the borderline thing, that makes the other two conf town.

Oh my god this pings me really bad for mulch

Nosferatu come here LMAO

You do realize that I've been independently town reading Priscilla hard? I'm definitely not going to assume she's the mole

Honestly, she's the only option in the thread to be said mole.

yea
PereV scum doesn't make sense lol

[Zachstralkita]

LMAO am town but I'd say some slick shit like that as scum for sure

[Zachstralkita]

So Tywin maybe read


There's an actual reason to vote Priscila

[Zachstralkita]

Whymafia, you can't just skip the whole Priscila thing. Even townbloc leader Boonskies has made it a central point.

I hate to say it townies, but we're going to have to do some open heart surgery on this game

[Zachstralkita]

Whymafia, you can't just skip the whole Priscila thing. Even townbloc leader Boonskies has made it a central point.

I hate to say it townies, but we're going to have to do some open heart surgery on this game

Yeah but Boon is killing her tonight

And I don't think you have room to talk

Lynch pool
[Gamma, Zach]
Tentative
[Fykus, Priscila, Sling]

I am not lynching Drum

Okay, what the hell. Boonskiies claim is weak vig meaning if he hits scum he dies. So are you saying you want to wait until we lose a pr to confirm a scum or would you rather do it and use the pr to town hunt?

[Zachstralkita]

@wm

you town clear people as weak vig by helping PoE

I.e. Don't necessarily shoot scumreads but players that you don't have a lot from and could confuse things

If the role dies when it finds scum, is the main objective of the role to find scum?

[Zachstralkita]

Dunno Wm


You can think I'm scummy but Boonskiies completely agrees with me for a reason

I claimed anyway. I said why I wasn't scum yesterday.

[Zachstralkita]

THE UNIVERSE IS EXPANDING AT A RATE OF OVER 4000 KM PER MINUTE, YET MOZAMIS HASN'T BEEN ABLE TO EXPAND HIS READS IN THE PAST 7 DAYS

Pretty slept on post tbh

[Zachstralkita]

Zach what do you think about my play this game

Nah you've been largely unremarkable this game which can be good or bad. I want the old Dunnstral back. Before u went to the correctional facility and um the katana incident

[Zachstralkita]

Keep in mind I've been terrible this game Dunn

[Zachstralkita]

They call him Dunn cause you'll be done.

[Zachstralkita]

This buddying right now from two people giving excuses about how their "play has been bad" is naeusating

You can't buddy someone that's already your buddy, buddy

[Zachstralkita]

I really wanna lynch Fykus then shoot Zach
But that's unlikely to happen

I can give reasons tomorrow

yo boonskiies get your man he acting crazy out here

i'm going to flip vt bro don't waste your time

[Zachstralkita]

this guy's really defending the 4 town neighborhood after its own leader contests it

[Zachstralkita]

See there's guys you can lynch and then there's guys you can't


Now that guy he's not exactly a guy you can't lynch but he's not exactly a guy you can either...

[Zachstralkita]

VOTE: Priscilla

Lmfaooooo

[Zachstralkita]

Dunn read boonskies post


Priscila lynch is explained

@Pris voters. If Pris is town is there still scum in the hood and if so why? What else is she scummy for?

Yes, there's an IC and a weak vig in there and someone that's nearly conf according to boonskies

If Priscilla flips town it points to WM or Boon

WM has claimed IC

Boon claimed weak vig and has no reason to push Priscila

That slots either lock scum or... something is wrong, one of them is lying

[Zachstralkita]

Top of 88. I have too much regular work right now, so based on the pages I did read

Vote: Fykus

Anyone want to share a rundown of the last 40?

Last 40 there's much more.

Mass claim happened, our neighborhood is outed. We had a cheeky plan that all of us were gonna claim to be the mod conf town. Priscila went along with it, then out of nowhere revealed everything, even though she had previously claimed she was the mod conf town.

Why the hell is Fykus plurality?


Flipping Priscila either hits scum or outs a scum in her neighborhood if you've been following what I/Boonskiies/WM have been talking about. Not quantum physics

[Zachstralkita]

I know the Rhazh lynch was a major fuck up I was involved in but there's a legitimate reason to lynch Priscila not based on reads

[Zachstralkita]

you know what people don't object to, gamma

your lynch

[Zachstralkita]

There, there


Then you have to believe one of Boon/Wm is scum? Those two and Priscila can't both be lying. It's literally based on role/neighborhood stuff






If you think they're both lying it means you think the whole neighborhood is town even though the players inside of it have now said there's scum inside?


0 logistical sense

This clearly isn't something we're supposed to just walk past

DRUM will you ever react live to anything

Lmfaoo

[Zachstralkita]

There, there


Then you have to believe one of Boon/Wm is scum? Those two and Priscila can't both be lying. It's literally based on role/neighborhood stuff






If you think they're both lying it means you think the whole neighborhood is town even though the players inside of it have now said there's scum inside?


0 logistical sense

This clearly isn't something we're supposed to just walk past

DRUM will you ever react live to anything

Lmfaoo

When did anyone say anything about lying? Yes, were clearly not all scum, but lynching Priscilla to out "liars" is insanely stupid
I've been thinking.
I want Fykus/Zach dead

Lmao really don't know what u be talking about

[Zachstralkita]

Ugh
Can we stop talking about this? It makes it harder to catch-up

There doesn't seem to be a purpose to this argument.
Let's talk about scum. Like Fykus. Or Zach!

You trying too hard wm

[Zachstralkita]

Ugh
Can we stop talking about this? It makes it harder to catch-up

There doesn't seem to be a purpose to this argument.
Let's talk about scum. Like Fykus. Or Zach!

You trying too hard wm

Ugh
Can we stop talking about this? It makes it harder to catch-up

There doesn't seem to be a purpose to this argument.
Let's talk about scum. Like Fykus. Or Zach!

I'll stop when he admits defeat.

The purpose is to show that I am correct and he is not.

You trying too hard sw

What? Seems calculated. Error.

In the words of Moz, PoS scum.

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[Zachstralkita]

@Nos form a dual block with me


@Dunn you can come too

[Zachstralkita]

@Nos form a dual block with me


@Dunn you can come too

a town bloc of justice (name pending) to oppose the town bloc of terror?

Yes sir



whymafia if we're the "scummiest players" to you then towns already fucked lmao

[Zachstralkita]

The proposed lynch pool is the two wall posters and me


Yeah, I'm not moving my vote. You could just get back on Priscila
, Boonskiies

[Zachstralkita]

Mulch with the octo post

[Zachstralkita]

I thought we were united against scum, Boonskiies?


Well you know what they say

Spoiler:

[Zachstralkita]

TownBeats

[Zachstralkita]

Fykus wagon is going to be a goldmine tomorrow if it's green

[Zachstralkita]

? Should have pushed me earlier guy, you hinted at it enough




I would say that you're wasting time but it's plurality lynch so you'll have to make other people waste their time to pull this one off

[Zachstralkita]

If Boon was going to shoot me anyway my lynch would be decent but I'm not his first two choices

[Zachstralkita]

can we just
get
there
and lynch
priscila

That's Right !!!

[Zachstralkita]

I'm going to as fix e ate you Dunn

[Zachstralkita]

How is it effectively a mason group? I feel it's expected that we would naturally want to turn on each other.

Because all it takes is 2 or 3 organised nights of actions to confirm an entire hood of town. Then it's a mason group.
The potential is too much, even more so with 1 of the 4 being able to be mod confirmed.

There are others who share this same school of thought

Join us on the Priscila wagon where we get to the root of the problem

[Zachstralkita]

There are others who share this same school of thought

Join us on the Priscila wagon where we get to the root of the problem

Why do you think Priscila over PV?

I don't see why PereV lurks here as the only scum in the hood it would draw attention. I'd expect like a little bit of faked analysis

Even tho I have experience with lurking being his towngame

I'm untouchable

nobody dares to vote me even when I don't do anything

Yeah it's literally the opposite for me

[Zachstralkita]

Yeah Dunnstral do what your overlords command you capitalist lapdog







Pedit: fuck

[Zachstralkita]

"immense resistance" is definitely a stretch when describing the DrumBeats wagon

[Zachstralkita]

"immense resistance" is definitely a stretch when describing the DrumBeats wagon

Do you think Fykus is scum too? Or Priscila is just going for credit?

Fykus town




Priscila scum

[Zachstralkita]

Wtf?

[Zachstralkita]

Was that really a "slip" from Vedith tho..? I don't think so


Also Boonskiies what's the foundation for me/Nos? By what means did you come up with that?


We have a game as scum together, you wanna see? Or does that not matter.

[Zachstralkita]

These "perspective slips" are fucking killing me bro


Aren't 2/3 of them just Vedith being a smartass to Mulch or am I missing something

[Zachstralkita]

Stop defending. Town pick a side. If you pick his side I would hope to God you provide a good reason

Lmfaooooo wat

These "perspective slips" are fucking killing me bro


Aren't 2/3 of them just Vedith being a smartass to Mulch or am I missing something

I can explain if you want. Give me what u are confused about and I will explain why it's a perspective slip.

It's pretty much what I said. The first two are him being a smartass to you but you think he's slipped because they're from a "scum POV" when really that's like one of the options




pedit

Boonskiies you either think she's scum or she's not?


We might have actually had a chance at lynching her if you pushed the wagon instead of leaving it late day

And it didn't look too good when people openly scumread all of her wagon (me / Nos/ Drum) and no one did anything

[Zachstralkita]

These "perspective slips" are fucking killing me bro


Aren't 2/3 of them just Vedith being a smartass to Mulch or am I missing something

FUCKING THIS

What are you confused about.

No confusion, you/Vedith are just tunneling each other and it's somehow more annoying to read than the Tywin based tunnels.

So you think they're tunneling too? I thought I was in an alternate reality

[Zachstralkita]

Ok but you haven't addressed the basis of our discussion which is what I responded to


He's not confirmed anything to me unless you explain what makes him lock scum

[Zachstralkita]

Ok but you haven't addressed the basis of our discussion which is what I responded to


He's not confirmed anything to me unless you explain what makes him lock scum

He manipulated and bullshitting 10 times and the perspective slips which I can explain if u just explain what ur confused about.

ok explain ALL of them


@Boon but you get my point about priscila, we were supposed to lynch there. Like I have no reason to see Vedith as scum here


Pedit???? What the hell.


If Vedith flips green it's a TvT lol

[Zachstralkita]

Yeah explain the "shoot our scumread" thing if Boonskiies dies when he hits scum

[Zachstralkita]

ok well it's going to be easy as pie for you to get Vedith to plurality so the sooner we clear up this TVt the better

[Zachstralkita]

Yeah explain the "shoot our scumread" thing if Boonskiies dies when he hits scum

What?

I was talking to uh, Drum and Boonskiies

[Zachstralkita]

I mean I said TvT, Mulch cause I think both of you are town so me voting you is also improbable for some reason

Fykus and Mulch are both town. Sick.

Don't forget Gamma.

this actually does imply Vedith thinks Mulch is town.

He's trolling holy shit lmao, you're actually counting sarcasm and shit as scumslips


Holy fuck you two.

Drum vote him now after townreading me all game or I am going to assume I was being pocketed

This dome is bullshit though, it's just as likely its a TvT that's been tunnelled to oblivion. Anytime I go to check ISO's here I get a page or two behind because everybody's just spamming the shit out of this. I'll check your ISO in a sec to see if I agree, but I still find Priscila's game's worth of being scummy as shit much worse than the excessive trolling here.

SAY IT AGAIN

[Zachstralkita]

How is trolling here acceptable at all zach?

U must clearly not have played with Vedith before at all lol this is his personality

Pedit ok this goes to boonskiies too.



Like tone doesn't translate well over the internet to a lot of people it's why sarcasm doesn't work a lot of the time

[Zachstralkita]

Zach actually wtf are you doing, vote hkm

This is actually blowing my mind what you and boonskiies are doing


I'm either too high or not high enough for this deathtunnel. Wholly going with the latter

[Zachstralkita]

Drum


If boon shoots scum he dies. Wym

Zach actually wtf are you doing, vote hkm

This is actually blowing my mind what you and boonskiies are doing


I'm either too high or not high enough for this deathtunnel. Wholly going with the latter

I'm not even death tunneling. I was literally voting Priscila a few pages ago. So you're probably actually just a scum fuck too, trying to discredit this? Like, I'm giving actual reasons.

-Mulch- is death tunneling

You are helping it. You are part of it now, you basically are one of the main factors controlling our lynch.


Thank you for scumreading me(over semantics) the second I say something that could be interpreted as negative at you.


Wtf? Where am I




Pedit

Oh my god this is so fucking stupid. Now one of Drum and I have to be scum cause we're acting rational. How about think about what you post?

[Zachstralkita]

Vedith I townread Fykus


And mulch unfortunately

No one wants to lynch scumscila


Kinda want to flip you so they can stop posting all this stupid shit in the thread. Are you mad at me ?


Oh p.s. Boonskiies, Are we going to talk about the "I'm going to shoot Priscila" thing? What does that do exactly besides kill you? Genuinely confused



I also think it's hilarious how you think we could be scumbuddies.

But if u town read her now that's even more hilarious


Just wanna know


Pedit



Ok are the "actual reasons" for scum Vedith his trolly posting style? He really just baited you for reactions but besides that no.. I don't see him being scum


And wtf do you mean? Without you on the lynch Boonskiies, its not going through


All of Priscilla's wagon is in your scum pool atm If in reading your posts right

You leaving the wagon kinda fucked us over

I actually already said this. Like I clearly knew you pushed Priscila before

[Zachstralkita]

And wtf do you mean? Without you on the lynch Boonskiies, its not going through


All of Priscilla's wagon is in your scum pool atm If in reading your posts right

You leaving the wagon kinda fucked us over

I actually already said this. Like I clearly knew you pushed Priscila before

Yep, I'm your best bet at Priscila's death.

You literally told me "why aren't you pushing your desired lynch?"


this is my response. there is not a fair basis for the question

[Zachstralkita]

Vedith why SR drum at all? He's the only person showing common sense about the wagon situation

[Zachstralkita]

The ONLY other person I can see like this is scary

[Zachstralkita]

You actually think Vedith is that dumb to "slip" like that lmao



Wow.

[Zachstralkita]

You actually think Vedith is that dumb to "slip" like that lmao



Wow.

It wasn't a slip and he isn't scum.

Preaching to the choir here. Really.

[Zachstralkita]

You actually think Vedith is that dumb to "slip" like that lmao



Wow.

I don't honestly know. I just know that Vedeth hasn't trolled his last few games like this as town (I skimmed his post history for the last few games. Dota and TTYL), he (and Mulch's tunneling of him) turned this thread into a total clusterfuck, and we get a Priscila shot out of this.

If Boonskiies shoots Priscila it doesn't necessarily conf her as scum though that's why I don't like the plan


Vedith clear town btw

[Zachstralkita]

You actually think Vedith is that dumb to "slip" like that lmao



Wow.

I don't honestly know. I just know that Vedeth hasn't trolled his last few games like this as town (I skimmed his post history for the last few games. Dota and TTYL), he (and Mulch's tunneling of him) turned this thread into a total clusterfuck, and we get a Priscila shot out of this.

If Boonskiies shoots Priscila it doesn't necessarily conf her as scum though that's why I don't like the plan


Vedith clear town btw

It should because Priscila will be dead right?

Not if she's scum

Boonskiies claim is weak vig

[Zachstralkita]

Vedith not wanting to lynch Priscila point is a good one. Like one of the only good ones


But them both being scum together doesn't make sense to me. Like Vedith so obviously pushing other not-Priscila wagons would be a red flag imo that's why I think he's town

Boonskiies claim is weak vig

Target still dies.

Oh, rip.






Actually maybe give us some contingency plan reads in case you flip town cause you made some towny posts recently ? You know just in case something happens tonight

Like a sudden death or something. For some reason

[Zachstralkita]

Actually maybe give us some contingency plan reads in case you flip town cause you made some towny posts recently ? You know just in case something happens tonight

Like a sudden death or something. For some reason

I made some townie posts recently...? I have bled town this entire game. Get a grip.

Not like people read people differently or anything



Like how I've been hard scum to you for a good portion of the game but I happen to be town here? That counts too

[Zachstralkita]

@zach whats your read on drum

Strong town

So yeah I'm fucked today

I mean plurality means I'm not essential if certain people control the lynch which they already do, but yeah

[Zachstralkita]

@zach whats your read on drum

Strong town

So yeah I'm fucked today

I mean plurality means I'm not essential if certain people control the lynch which they already do, but yeah

I don't understand why you are against killing Vedith/Priscila. Same thing would probably happen if Priscila was the lynch toDay.

No I'm fine with the Priscila shot I just don't like a lot of your preferred lynches

[Zachstralkita]

I wanna draw this wagon out if I think he's town and it's happening anyway, we will get info from it

Vedith/Nos/Dunstral/Drum OR Zach/ (maybe priscilla?)

.....
*jumps into volcano*

[Zachstralkita]

Lol, Zach's getting lynch most likely tomorrow with his play toDay. I'm sure Nero will help us out on that.

ok do that, you're better off shooting me I claimed already. Just stop waffling on the read


not used to the style of play where you just scumread people because they don't agree with your push. Will have to remember for next game. Let's not forget yesterday where you cased me with absolutely nothing and I had to illustrate it

zach isnt mafia. Hes just blind town.

How? Fuck off bro

[Zachstralkita]

I didnt meta you. Is that your meta? That's disgusting LMAO

[Zachstralkita]

"stop spamming" is important because we have to work with this pile of shit tomorrow after Vedith flips green and there's already a lot of useless junk. We need as little of that as possible

[Zachstralkita]

"I'm going to spam if you don't lynch Vedith so just lynch Vedith"

Yeah you can't tell me that's not underhanded. What's wrong with information? He's going to die anyway if he has plurality

We're not going to act like people don't know how to post constructively. Spam does not have to happen


Pedit but then again mulch acting like he's in post game makes it that much harder

VOTE: Vedith

Sorry dude really not gonna encourage them wasting time on this. I'll take your reads into consideration for tomorrow definitely, probably gamma I guess


Anyways when this flips green, mulch stfu for like a whole day.


Vedith you didn't help yourself by baiting but I found it pretty hilarious

[Zachstralkita]

Don't blame you for troll Vedith but there's a different definition of "logic" in this game apparently


Like seriously? the master townbloc will no longer control the lynch if vedith flips town


Grrr

[Zachstralkita]

this guy with the fucking perspective slips

[Zachstralkita]

vedith's lynch cannot be rushed any further mulch

you don't need to act all energizer bunny


Pedit I think what vedith's doing is hilarious you guys should know it's obvious town

Literally obv town levels of memery. Fucking amazing

[Zachstralkita]

Jesus christ town would not be this calm

You've said this like 80 times


It's not fully true though lol


If he flips green please stop posting for a while

Like maybe start now he's going to die anyway

[Zachstralkita]

You guys don't understand


All of Vediths posts are going to be hilarious post flip LOL

[Zachstralkita]

But this game kinda pissed me off

You guys don't understand


All of Vediths posts are going to be hilarious post flip LOL

THis is how he is tricking you ffs

You're so tunneled

[Zachstralkita]

@Drum @Nos @Dunn


I need my security blankets

[Zachstralkita]

Your falling for it @Zach.

Humor me: IF he flips scum (1000% chance), will you follow me the rest of the game?

I don't gamble

Has Sling done anything of note?

And oh hell no I ain't listening to zach

@Why - Zach is busing hard. He faught against this lynch for like 16 pages.

Ok quoting this here



Literally not wasting my time posting if this is how you play


You control most of the lynches too. Just like keep this in mind as we approach the flip

Zach, you will have to learn. Those posts are NOT "hilarious" pre flip stuff. I know EXACTLY what you are talking about and your wrong. This is what he wants you to THINK. He has no substance so he resorts to this. I have done it before as scum. It's not hard. You have to learn not to trust this so easy.

I'm voting him anyway literally so you stop talking... you're assuming it's more likely that I'm grossly incompetent over you being tunneled even a little which sort of says it all

[Zachstralkita]

Vedith people aren't going to listen to me... at all