Mafia 76: Desperate - Game over!

[The Eternal Newb]

Vote: JDGA

On the grounds that there are two idles and one replacement.

[The Eternal Newb]

Well, at the time I voted, he wasn't likely to get replaced; there were two people who needed replacing and only one replacer.

Now that he's the only one though...

unvote: JDGA

Oh, and I like BigBen's theory.

vote: tEN

[The Eternal Newb]

Oh, that's a dumb way to say you're doing something I find suspicious?

unvote: ten
vote: bigben

Is this way any better?


You're making quite a big deal over somebody who would have been ending up as simply dead weight.

A doctor who never sends in orders is useless.

A mafiate who never sends in orders, on the other hand, is supporting his team simply by existing; they don't need anybody to replace him until several days in, when they're all dead.

[The Eternal Newb]

Superfly, do you read or do you skim?

It's been established that me "agreeing" with BigBen was sarcasm.

For those who know me!

My list currently stands at Ben, Fly, and JDGA. More forthcoming when I have more to go off of.

[The Eternal Newb]

What was scummy about it?

BigBen was trying to claim that killing an inactive was bad because they

might

be a doctor and I was pointing out that an inactive doctor isn't going to do us any good anyway.

An inactive mafiate, on the other hand, is super-harmful because they could potentially just sit around letting us kill ourselves and pop back in during the endgame.

[The Eternal Newb]

You're still missing my original point though.

When I first voted for him

we had more people who hadn't confirmed than we did people willing to replace them

.

Now that that has changed, I am no longer voting for him.

And please don't give me that "more likely to be pro-town" bullshit. Anybody we lynch day one is more likely to be town.

[The Eternal Newb]

I have never seen a day one "educated decision" turn up scum.

I have seen random lynches turn up scum on day one though.

[The Eternal Newb]

Baffling, yes?

My theory, JDGA is scum, and his buddy, BigBen, being the excitable person that he is, reacted over-strongly and convinced his other buddy Superfly to back him up.

Oh, I'd like to change my earlier statement.

I've never seen a day one educated lynch kill scum when I wasn't involved.

And yes, I have lurked my fair share of games.

[The Eternal Newb]

how long you been here again?

Ah, yes, because this is the only place ever where anybody plays mafia.

Wizzle recognized me, and I've gamed with Cephrir before. Some of the other people might recognize me, but I don't recognize them.


And if you're not supposed to pay attention to how specific people play then that's extremely silly.

As for the rest of your post, I'm not even going to respond to that.

[The Eternal Newb]

Vote Count:

The Eternal Newb 3 (Wizardcat, bigbenwd, Superfly)
bigbenwd 3 (The Goat, Werebear, The Eternal Newb)

JDGA 2 (andersonw, Charity)

Kilroy8675309 1 (Matt_S)
The Goat 1 (noah hanson)
Tarhalindur 1 (Peers)
springlullaby 1 (Serous)
Matt_S 1 (Kilroy8675309)
Serous 1 (Tarhalindur)
Wizardcat 1 (skitzer)

Not Voting 7 (lalaland, grintwig, alea, Korts, JDGA, militant, Pyaar, springlullaby)

Prodding lalaland, grintwig, alea, Korts, militant, springlullaby.
Not prodding JDGA because he hasn't picked up his role, anyways.

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Oh, I went back and reread; my list is currently JDGA, Big Ben, Superfly, and Tarhalindur.

Soon I shall have a fifth.

[The Eternal Newb]

This is how I ALWAYS play.

Find five people day one who seem crazy suspicious, name them, explain barely anything, get totally ignored, die through a stupid misunderstanding, wait for the other players to use my list which will turn out to be totally right, and then win.

[The Eternal Newb]

Cephrir's been bolding names as they confirm.

Right now, JDGA is the ONLY person who hasn't confirmed.

Which makes me wonder why we haven't had more people participating.

And I also don't like how Tarh put the THIRD vote onto JDGA, said he was shamelessly bandwagoning, and then got ignored by BigBen.

[The Eternal Newb]

(4 or 5 suspects in 2 pages? really?)

How many suspects did this "Jeep" have?

[The Eternal Newb]

Honestly speaking, my entire strategy consists of "say stupid shit and see who responds to stupid shit how."

It's worked pretty well for me in the three or so years I've been playing.

Only about half of that was online, in case anybody cares.

Right now my list of who I think is scum consists of Korts, BigBen, Tarh, Goat, and Pyaar.

I honestly don't know why. I play from the gut as a townie.

[The Eternal Newb]

Jeep is also basically the equivalent of a Mafia savant. Until you back up your reasons with more than 'i play from the gut... as a townie! don't forget i'm just being a good ol townie!' you don't get to say you can pin down 5 people in 3 pages and they'll all be right. because so far I have yet to see anything from you that warrants merit as a townie and a lot that warrant merit as scum.

Can somebody else say I can pin down all the scum and they'll be right?

http://forum.nuklearpower.com/showpost. ... tcount=822

[The Eternal Newb]

unvote, vote: tEN

Final list:

Tarh, Matt, Wizzle, Korts, Noah

[The Eternal Newb]

I am vanilla town.

To prove that I am town aligned, I will die.

Then you guys can take a serious look at the five names I posted.

Simple, yes?

[The Eternal Newb]

My subconscious is better at mafia than I am.

If I had to guess why I picked you to be on there though Matt, it was when you

asked the other players for permission to vote for me

.

Honestly, flat-out saying "choose for me so I'm not responsible"?

[The Eternal Newb]

Oh, and Wizzle is on there because I've seen him on AIM and talked to him about something different and he's not posted.

[The Eternal Newb]

vote: Noah

[The Eternal Newb]

Killa, your post makes my head hurt.

[The Eternal Newb]

Is it just me, or did Noah get replaced by Noah?
I'm getting the same general feeling from K7 as from NA.


And the whole "somebody tell me what happened" thing and the failure to respond to people telling K7 to read followed by the rather upset response to what was seemingly perceived as blaming K7 for something done by OGML bugs me too.

Says to me that he's reading the thread and following it, but refraining from commenting.

[The Eternal Newb]

Aaaand, he goes and posts while I'm typing.

I stand by what I said though. This latest post seems to be nothing more than a repeat of what the voting record holds, and possibly him encouraging the vote on JDGA to go through before we can pay more attention to him today.

[The Eternal Newb]

Superfly, what are your thoughts on K7?

[The Eternal Newb]

Obviously because Wizardcat is scum.

Weren't you paying attention?

Also, I'd like to point out that both Wizardcat and Noah were on the list of that guy who died day one.

If they both turn up scum, maybe we should look at the other three people on there, hey?

[The Eternal Newb]

I read the PBPA, but frankly, I'm concentrating on Killa first. We can move on to other people once he's gone, yes?

And don't you worry. I play differently on later days than I do to day one.

Doesn't mean I don't trust my day one instincts until they're proven wrong though.

[The Eternal Newb]

Well, I did it because I played with the same group for so long that I got used to a certain set of reactions, and they got used to a certain way of things going, so I was just used to voting myself off day one after posting a list.

[The Eternal Newb]

I assume that the case against you is that if he voted Killa instead then that would be seen as hammering and he doesn't want to be called on hammering a mafiate because then that would be bussing or some such nonsense.

[The Eternal Newb]

vote: Skitzer

[The Eternal Newb]

It was within the hour, even...


I like, though, how Skitzer vanished and Peers confronted me on Skitzer's behalf.

[The Eternal Newb]

Erm... if two people are voting for Skitzer... shouldn't that be one two instead of two ones?

Fixed.

[The Eternal Newb]

unvote, vote: Serous

I'd explain, but nobody would read it at this point, it having been well explained already.

[The Eternal Newb]

I'm confused.

Jailkeeper=roleblocker?

I'm used to the jailkeeper who can choose to throw somebody in jail during the day, making them not exist within the game for the rest of the day, or the following night, which simultaneously roleblocks them, protects them, stops their vote from counting, and protects them from lynching.

And since it reveals the user, I'm used to the standard method of roleclaiming it being to toss in jail the person leading the charge against you.

[The Eternal Newb]

IS there a role here like the one I described, or is that one unique to NPF?

[The Eternal Newb]

Okay, since the jailkeeper works different here than I'm used to, how's the mafia traitor work here?

Are they part of a mason group with townies?

Anyone feel up to a PBPA of Tarh?

[The Eternal Newb]

He was testing you.

Now he knows that you are.

[The Eternal Newb]

Hobo: You have no house and so it is very hard to find you. Night actions upon you take two nights in a row to work.




























I kid.

Vanilla Townie

[The Eternal Newb]

I wonder if K7II has the wonderful grasp of American English that K7I demonstrated.



Also, Kilroy, I have to agree with you that games are more fun with more crazy roles.

I saw a game recently where five different people were all told that they were the vig, but in actual fact four of them were delusional townies who kept getting "roleblocked" results back when they tried to kill.

[The Eternal Newb]

Well, when investigated, they showed as delusional townies, and apparently the GM kept hinting to them in the PMs that they didn't have any actual powers.

They did manage to keep the real vig alive through confusion when he got forced into claiming.

It was rather fantastic, really.

[The Eternal Newb]

Considering that this is coming from somebody who doesn't grasp the concept of homonyms, I'm rather offended by that.

[The Eternal Newb]

I dunno.

I didn't even notice that it was within 20 minutes.

[The Eternal Newb]

I haven't voted yet because I'm wary of the day ending before we get to the part with the mass roleclaim.

[The Eternal Newb]

I'll go with Matt S then.

[The Eternal Newb]

I picked you to go next because you're at the top of the "alive" list.

And my opinion on Skitzer is that Skitzer can wait until after the massclaim.

I feel that now that we're down the doctor and the PO is ALREADY revealed, we can go right ahead and reveal everybody else and stir things up to the point where the town actually stands half a chance.

So, unless JDGA has multiple regenerations and forgot to tell us, this is our best option, I feel.

[The Eternal Newb]

Matt, you want to go ahead and pick the next person to claim?

[The Eternal Newb]

I'd like to interrupt this farce with a

vote: Matt S

.

Thank you for playing.

[The Eternal Newb]

Sorry, no.

[The Eternal Newb]

One-shot PO, psychic powers, I'm just that good, he was looking at me funny, I didn't like the cut of his jib, take your pick.

[The Eternal Newb]

Well if I used that one already it must have been one of the other four this time, eh?

[The Eternal Newb]

EBWODP: Personally, I like the last one; it includes the word "jib."

[The Eternal Newb]

EBWOTP: For further "fairness," who here did not think Noah was scum?

[The Eternal Newb]

Clearly your guilty conscience at work.

[The Eternal Newb]

Of course.

Anything else would be silly.

[The Eternal Newb]

People who claim that the town is stupid because they were awesome players amuse me.

Incidentally, I find it amusing that both slots that K7 replaced into were on my list.

I'm also MORE certain of Wizzle's slot than I was of noah's largely because I've never known Wizzle to drop out of a game where he was town aligned, and also because K7 is the second person to be replacing into that slot, when the first person who replaced in was a prior player.

[The Eternal Newb]

EBWODP:

Haha, incredibly funny.

Can we get a prod on Pyaar or at least activity from somebody else?

[The Eternal Newb]

I find it interesting that Skitzer, who is generally regarded as the SK, if I'm understanding the sentiment correctly, and The Goat both didn't notice that Peers already claimed.

Don't know if it means anything, but it's certainly interesting.

[The Eternal Newb]

Why do people keep putting down OMGL instead of OGML?

[The Eternal Newb]

I could see it once.

Keeping doing it is stupid and obnoxious.

[The Eternal Newb]

unvote: Matt
Vote: Skitzer

[The Eternal Newb]

Cephrir, direct question here: if a night cycle had no kills and the subsequent day cycle ended in a no-lynch, would that constitute a tie?

Oh, and,

vote: armix

who may or may not be the serial killer shooting at the plan which will end in him losing.

[The Eternal Newb]

Dammit, that's right, you replaced Peers.

I somehow got the two replacements switched in my head.

Also, shame Kilroy's plan isn't going to work now.

[The Eternal Newb]

Armix, that's not how it works. We don't know who the SK is and who the mafia is; if we did, then we'd be voting them already.

"It's better to kill scum type B than it is to kill scum type A" is all well and good, but it doesn't matter at all if we don't get on the ACTUAL real issue, which is, "who is scum? Screw what type they are!"

Ignoring Matt and Cream, since they were each tracked and cleared like that, and ignoring Armix, since I don't think that chasing him is gonna get us anywhere for now, I'm gonna go out on a limb and

unvote, vote: SweatPantsNinja

[The Eternal Newb]

It's harder for me to get on during the weekends right now, and I have to go, but I will say this: I play different on day one than other days ANYWAYS.

And this bandwagon is piling up on me way too quickly.

[The Eternal Newb]

I meant one confirmed person followed immediately by two people who are very vocal in saying that they're confirmed while not really being confirmed.

That's all kinds of suspicious to me.

I especially like how the person I voted for ALSO threw their vote on top of me, bringing me to L-1.


Now, what's the case on me?

That I'm "playing differently" to how I played day one?

[The Eternal Newb]

Also, as far as I'm concerned, Peers was not at all confirmed, and I think that one of the other people sitting around here had a once every few days kind of vig power, but Peers claimed the kill because he wanted that person to counterclaim him before they got their next kill.

[The Eternal Newb]

However, assuming that this person is not lynched today, I'm pretty sure that we'll see Armix dead tonight, so I'd like to pursue instead Sweatpants, who responded to my vote with an OMGUS counter-vote.

[The Eternal Newb]

I absolutely hate the accusation that I'm playing differently than I was last time any time I play as a replacement.

I always play differently, even when I have the exact same role.

It's just how I play.

And it is my least favorite cause of death.

[The Eternal Newb]

Improving your grammar and spelling will do wonders for making people more inclined to listen to you.

[The Eternal Newb]

I'm not sure what it is about your playstyle either but I find myself thinking you're scum in almost every game we've played together.

It's the grammar and spelling.

Good grammar and spelling, like being well groomed, makes people more credible.

[The Eternal Newb]

I'm used to a different group.

The people I normally play with all know me and can, at this point, be counted upon to act a certain way when I do certain things, with the exception of two people.

Part of the reason I came here instead.