Open 53: Near-Vanilla - Game over!

[killa seven]

thanks for having me.. ima skin through the thread and see whats goin on

[killa seven]

unvote, vote: RossWilliam

Killa seven: have you read the thread yet?

Not feeling the RW bandwagon atm..

im trying threads kinda slow, most posts are complaints about it being slow lol, and a quick question yes im a newbie but what does rw bandwagon atm mean?

[killa seven]

RW= RossWilliam
bandwagon= when a bunch of people are voting for a person
atm= at the moment

I would suggest reading through the wiki-- there's a newbie guide you'll want to read. It also has common abbreviations on the site. I'd also recommend reading through another game. Read a finished one so you can see how things work. You should probably also join a newbie game. They're designed to help new players get a handle on games.

Afterwards, if you could read through this game again and provide some input on what has happened so far, it would help get things moving here again.

thanks for clearing that up, yea ive been readin alot of mafia newbie guides plus i joined 4 games by accident so im tryna balance em all at once... ima do my best to add my imput to this game i hope it speeds up some more

[killa seven]

why was there a rw bandwagon in the first place?

[killa seven]

Official Vote Count

skitzer

: 1 (killa seven)
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i didnt vote?

[killa seven]

Sorry I've been kind of lurky. I haven't had much to goo on, except for maybe killa seven not replying to whoever's "Are you scum?" question.

lol i didnt know that was serious, no im not.

[killa seven]

how many votes does it take to get a lynch?
well ross williams seems to be under the mostpressure and he hasnt dont much to defend himself, maybe hes tryna back off now or just new to the game, i dont see much on skitzer that would suggest hes scum atm for the time he has posted.
korlash strikes me most likely to be scum atm..

Hey I missed all the fun you guys had back when it happened so I had to get my something in. And for all his VIness I still think his replacement deserves at least one vote and a nice bit of pressure.

this was his first post back and seems very desperate to try and get someone lynched.. ill more into it later and drop a vote before the deadline.

[killa seven]

unvote, vote: nolynch

right now, I don't know who is scummy. But I also think, though it sounds selfish, that lynching me right now would be a mislynch. You don't have enough on me to lynch me yet. I'd appreciate it if some people voted nolynch with me, or even if the people on me unvoted. it would be a shame for the town for me to die without more evidence.

PS: there is no more evidence to be had, so we're all good

way to try to save yourself, probably wasnt the right one, as soon as the mod lets us vote no lynch u jump right on it? explain to me further why i shouldnt vote u and should vote no lynch u didnt really explain it much...

[killa seven]

the mod stated that we could do that, and 5 posts later his 1st post after the mods he unvotes.

[killa seven]

And? The mod stated that come deadline a vote of no lynch follows the same rules as other votes, that is not the mod letting us vote no lynch. And yes, givint he fact a vote of no lynch would save his life I would excpect him to want it instead. I guess I could see why you would say he jumped on it, I just think you worded it to make it look worse then it actaully was, which jumps out to me as somewhat suspicious.

how is that suspicious i was pointing this out, to get a response out of him, its odd that he could have voted no lynch this whole time but as soon as the mod brings it up he votes no lynch.. seems to me he was un aware of it and saw a opportunity to save himself, and i havent voted rw and didnt plan on it yet, so i dont see how this is suspicious.

[killa seven]

I was referring to my use of the word oppurtunistic. It is an unfair word when used unproperly, but I think it describes killa seven right now perfectly.

how am i opportunistic, i stated i didnt plan on voting you (atleast not yet), i pointed that out to get a reactin out of you to see how u would respond to get a better read on you, this game is really slow and there isnt much going on you had 4 votes on you and you had have to most attention on you i need to see how u would respond to critisism.

[killa seven]

im here tryna decide who to vote for melodyman or tsn

[killa seven]

vote j dodge

fuck it.

[killa seven]

well j dodge hasnt posted anything in ages except, 2 one sentance posts, and tsn atleas tries to defend himself and answer questions.. cant say the same for j dodge, and mm seems like a new guy making a few mistakes, he should atleast get another day to redeem himsef.
however im not completely commited to my vote.

[killa seven]

im comfortable with my vote now, j dodge made a joke after the 1st vote on him like he dont care " dun dun dun" doesnt even ask why ay of the votes are on him or defends himself.. i mean i exspected him to ask me a question or something.

[killa seven]

the 3 who havent voted need to vote and stop stalling

[killa seven]

klebian forgot to unvote then vote.

[killa seven]

i knew mm was town....

fos

at that whole bandwagon... oh and

vote

j dodge

we shoulded lycnhed that guy instead

[killa seven]

well j dodge hasnt posted anything in ages except, 2 one sentance posts, and tsn atleas tries to defend himself and answer questions.. cant say the same for j dodge,

and mm seems like a new guy making a few mistakes, he should atleast get another day to redeem himsef.

however im not completely commited to my vote.

how about that ross?

[killa seven]

oh and later i posted i was fully commited to my vote on j dodge,

[killa seven]

im glad your following your gut ross.

[killa seven]

^ rofl and lol at crub also.. these posts had me laughin for a good minute

[killa seven]

Killa Seven: You revoted JDodge immediately at the start of this day. Does this mean that you have a certainty that he is scum, and if so, what is your certainty based on?

Thank you all for any answers.

i was on the j dodge bandwagon the day before and we didnt lynch him we lynched a townie so why would i leave the bandwagon just because the day started over, and it was a strong bandwagon and j dodge still hasnt defended himself really at all in day 1 or day 2 so im keepin my vote on him unless he showes a turn around or someone does something overly scummy.

[killa seven]

^ i posted fuck it because i was in a rush and was tryna be a lil funny and had 10 mins to get to work and wanted to get my vote in after reading the thread i came back after work and explained it.

[killa seven]

im ok with my vote, ill have to go back and see if anyone else looks more smunny at the moment 2 change my vote

[killa seven]

kinda waiting for k7

what can i help you with sir?

[killa seven]

FOS:

Killa Seven
Are you ignoring me?

RW, K7, still waiting to hear from both of you.

I was actually going to address k7, but I'm waiting to hear whether he's keeping his vote where it's at or changing it. His decision may affect what I have to say about him.

I think I made it clear I've been waiting to hear from you as well, though you choose to respond to Klebian instead (though it's not much of a response).

Please answer--Are you keeping your vote where it's at or are you changing it?

im pretty sure i answered this question, so no im not ignoring you.

[killa seven]

anyways, as i said before, i will change my vote when i find someone scummier then jdoge or j steps up, which he hasnt.

[killa seven]

k7 and RW should 100% get on either me or TSN.
killah 7 - non-committal

Enjoy the rest of the game everyone. Mod you need to get on top of people who don't post, it is very frustrating especially with fixed deadlines where scum can fully control who get's lynched.

*sigh*

unvote

i guess ima pick one 2 vote for lemme re read real fast i know this is the last day.

[killa seven]

ok i dont like how tsn earlier in the day had voted for j dodge, and then on page 25 both j dodge and tsn gang up on crub near the deadline, and on page 26 post 638 jdode asks why we are voting tsn instead pf crub, all this seems shady 2 me, i dont feel like quoting it all just go look for your selvs.

vote tsn

[killa seven]

kinda waiting for k7

ok so u say this then i ask u what you want and you never answer me then you come back in here and vote me with some bull shit excuse. kleb i would like 2 know why your sweatin me so hard.

[killa seven]

Seeing as how we're on D3 and haven't caught any scum, any reasoning behind your vote would be much appreciated. Looking back, I didn't really see anything indicating that you were leaning in that direction, so I'm assuming it has something to do with recent events.

Also, did you not know you were going to be gone during deadline?

K7, I'd still like an answer to my previous question: can you explain why klebian's reasons for voting you are "bull shit"?

I think that's a pretty good start for today.

klebian allways singles me out in every game i play with him, his lurking in this game is is noticable, he says "im kinda waiting for k7" i ask him what hes waiting for he ignores me then i post a vote on tsn instead of crub and he all the sudden votes me, it seems kinda suspicious he would all the sudden try and vote me right before the deadline. i wasnt just "randomly hopping on a wagon" i really thought j dodge was scum and when it came down close 2 the deadline and the votes were so close i decided 2 pick tsn because he looked scummy 2 me the way him and jdodge were attacking crub. now that jdodge turned up town, i dont know about it anymore.

[killa seven]

Sorry, this game disappeared off my radar.

Quick thoughts:

Neko is probably town.

RW is likely scum, but may as well let him be replaced.

Vote: killa seven.

I've seen a slightly more protown version of k7 then the one he's presented in this game. I've also seen him play just like this and come up scum.

/proded, i play the same in every game, i dont know which game i played with you were i was scum, i won mafia 545 as town playing this same way, anyways i will reveiw the case on tsn that made me vote on him yesterday, sorry havent posted mod, i will re read, i dont wanna be replaced when i have 2 votes on me, my i net time is limited but i will make a effort.

[killa seven]

Geez, that took a while. How do you guys keep track of everything? I mean, do you keep a notebook by the comp and take notes? And while I read the abbreviation guide, and know what OMGUS means, how is it used? And what are bussing and meta?

I'm gonna go with my predecessor's vote on D2, and [b\] vote: killa seven [/b]. If that didn't come through bolded, could someone let me know how to fix it?

are you aware ross was lurking and voted for me just for a safe vote, i dont remember him really explaining it and he voted for me in another game at the same time, seems to me your also going with a safe vote.

[killa seven]

lol no i wasnt. and yea thats christian bale from the movie american psycho

[killa seven]

Geez, that took a while. How do you guys keep track of everything? I mean, do you keep a notebook by the comp and take notes? And while I read the abbreviation guide, and know what OMGUS means, how is it used? And what are bussing and meta?

I'm gonna go with my predecessor's vote on D2, and [b\] vote: killa seven [/b]. If that didn't come through bolded, could someone let me know how to fix it?

are you aware ross was lurking and voted for me just for a safe vote, i dont remember him really explaining it and he voted for me in another game at the same time, seems to me your also going with a safe vote.

Mod:

I didn't vote for Skitzer, please redo votecount.

K7, not totally sure what you mean about RW's lurking. I mean, the guy voted, and now he is gone. Since he got replaced, it seems like that wouldn't be lurking, just a post and then no more.

But what are your thoughts on voting, on who is scum?

why dont you read the game and rw's post.

[killa seven]

Jdtyer -

I want your thoughts on neko and an explanation of how you came to that conclusion.

There was something about Neko that made me a little suspicious, but I can't recall what or where it was. Its tough to jump in during day 3, read the posts, and keep track of where stuff was that caught my attention.

As far as K7, here are my thoughts. When looking at voting history, his history struck me as suspicious. Some of the vote switching back and forth, as well as who he voted for. And looking back at some of his posting patterns, they seem a little suspicious, some of it probably from some lurking. After looking back through the posts, I agree with K7 that RW seemed to be lurking towards the end of his life. But his response has still been kind of minimal, so my vote stays where it is, dude.

Shanba, I'm curious why you would want my thoughts on Neko, since I'm so new to this game, and the game in general?

i only remmeber voting for 2 people in this game, jdoge 2 days in a row and tsn. ill go back and look. im gonna do a pbba on tsn and you tommorow so ill look then.

[killa seven]

happy scumday mod.

thanks

i guess ill read on klebian as well when i read on ross and tsn.

[killa seven]

after re readin this boring game, one person skitser defended alot in day one and never really attacked was TSN. also i noticed klebian and tsn voted the same way alot. ross william really looked scummy on day one, i remmeber me wanting him lynched.

my town list atm.
1 me
2 shanba
3 justin
4 neko
5 korlash

in that order

scum list
#1 tsn
#2 ross williams
#3 klebian

can we get some activity

vote The Sweaty Pants Ninja

mod can you prod justin playfair he hasnt posted in a while

[killa seven]

errp edit, didnt see justin been replaced.

[killa seven]

im here.
i wanna hear what klebian has to say.
the korlash blow up is kind of strange and out of noi where.

[killa seven]

everyones had enough time to read over the cases and decide who they want to lynch.
neko i dont feel korlash is the right lynch while he does frustrate me, ive ignored him he seems more of a bored townie that has been in this game to long. id rather have him replaced.
as far as jtyder, hes on my scum list of 3 so i wouldnt be apposed to voting him but thats a last resort.

[killa seven]

ill be votin kleb most likely

[killa seven]

unvote vote Klebian

H'es on my scum list, go look it up.

The main thing that sticks out is how he voted me a few days ago when the wagons were between tsn and crub, and ended up gettin crub lynched. look it up.

[killa seven]

my internet modem broke should be fixed tommorrow, the thread title SAys 5/1 im assuming that means 5 townies and 1 scum left?

[killa seven]

I have a idea that would clear 2 people. and narrow it down to 4 scumspects instead of 6.
Since there was no NK on Night 3 maybe it would be a good idea for the doc to claim and tell us who he protected N3 because thats nost likely who the scum targeted, i just cant see the scum not killing in the night when they had killed every other night.
right now we have a 1 in 6 chance of lynching scum, if the doc claims we will have a 1 in 4 chance.
just a sugestion.
Discuss.

[killa seven]

mod please prod. neko, jtr and shanbas replacement.

korlash the reason i was thinking it wasnt a bad idea is because if we miss lynch today there will 4 vanillas one that the scum already knows isnt the doc, so he'd have a 1 in 3 shot at killin him. but id like to hear what others think i need to go re read kleb and skitser again.
jtr asked for replacement i think, ill go see if i can find one.

[killa seven]

there was a no kill on night three meaning who the doc protected the scum tried to kill that night so by the doc claimin it clears 2 people as town

[killa seven]

vote count is wrong btw.. still waitin to hear from near, and jtr asked to be replaced.

Votecount fixed. Thanks!

[killa seven]

lol my thoughts.

[killa seven]

shanba now near led us to both scum lynches do you think he was bussing?

[killa seven]

ok i found the crumbs left by the docta.

vote Eldritch Lord

Shanba put up a nice case on skitser that got him lynched, then he started the next day off with "i can see a klebian lynch" that got the town gleering at klebian and lynched plus i dont think him or near were around to send in the night kill.
same with jtr he asked to be replaced and never was replaced and never came back so i dont think he could have sent in the kill. (said somethin about going to summer camp).

EL is the only one left after my elimination process.

[killa seven]

well to me, if its not him then its near ,i found the doc and who he protected, i read through justins posts and justin attacked other people but stayed away from skitser and kelbian mostly he asked them questions mainly just klebian about his actions but never anything strong on them. when elritch replaced him he attacked i think it was tsn then hopped briefly on kleb then when it was positive kleb was going to be lynched he hoped back on the wagon and hammered him.

[killa seven]

There is a button at the bottom that allows you to just read one persons posts in the game, i suggest you use it.

[killa seven]

neko read post 906 from me.

[killa seven]

your wasting your time making a case on korlash

[killa seven]

K7, you don't get to make a statement like that, this late in the game without some sort of backup. Give me a reason. As far as I am concerned everyone is a suspect and needs to be looked at.

Unless you have a compelling reason for me not making a case against Korlash, which I would love to hear, then I will be looking through for it.

am i the only one who found the docter and who he protected?

[killa seven]

ill shut up about up but yes i did find the doc.

[killa seven]

El is scum and K7 is trying to kill the doctor.

lol no im not.
anyways.. i provided my case on EL why i think he is the last scum so im sticking with my vote on him.

[killa seven]

Sup clock,
i havent posted in min because i feel i have found the last scum, nothing much going on here besides a scum vs town member (in my eyes)
and if ala claims doc i wont unvote, im 100% sure i found the doc and its not him, plus him and el gave me no reason to think they were the doc when the discussion came up.

[killa seven]

romanus any reason for you to say we are mislynching? how do you know?

[killa seven]

yea, i knew he was the doc, the she/he shit gave it away, anyways, apparently he protected neko night three. ima re read a few things we cant afford to mislynch today.

[killa seven]

Many great and humble apologies to ClockworkRuse for the misspelling of his name.

I believe there is about 6 hours to deadline. I wish ClockR would have at least expressed his intentions.

I will give ClockR a chance to vote, hammer Al J if that is what he wants to do. If he votes other than Al J, I am going to hammer Al J.

My reasoning is simple enough. I don't want a deadline lynch. We, the town, need to lynch. At most the wagon has one scum on it. If Al J comes up town, I am pretty sure

I know who the scum is on the wagon. We do have a mislynch in our pocket.

I predict the doctor is going to die tonight

, which will clear someone else.

I'll have access throughout the day.

I'm saying IF this is a mislynch.

Time to go to sleep

UNVOTE

vote: Alabaska J

I bolded where these 2 posts contradict themselves first you say "we do have a mislynch" then right after you say i mean if we have a misylynch, then right after in the next sentence you say "time to go to sleep" like you are 100% certain we didnt lynch right.
it seems to me you were tryna set up a "told you the alabaska wagon was wrong im obv town now"
im tempted to vote you now. but i wanna make sure we get this right today.

[killa seven]

@cr .. u r saying i was playing the noob card, well i never did that on purpose, this is the first game i joined on this site and i never played mafia before so early on i really was kinda lost, but its been 6 f'in months and i think i know what im doin now. also im not a fan of the "noob card" thing.
@ neko sorry i answered ur question a few days ago i dunno what happened to the post, but basically i thought shanba was town the way he played, he was the one person i was sure was town, but now i dunno he coulda just been bussin with his big case on skitser and then the next day he opened up with " i could see a klebian lynch" that had the town all over him and got him lynched while he never put forth any other effort to lynch him, seems like bussing to me.

My feeling on romanus/ross/jt, if u re read, u can see i thought ross was total scum and was pushing to get him lynched his whole pushing for a no lynch when a wagon arose on him really stood out as a scummy move. jt played more town and kinda got me off of him for a while, CR has kinda layed low and let the town take themselves out, poppin in here and there and droppin comments but not really presenting strong cases or voting so we tend to forget he's here.
Im still on the fence who to vote right now.

[killa seven]

im unsure who to vote for, but im leanin CR.. maybe.. couple of weird reasons, the night TSN was killed i remmeber jtr saying he was going to camp and then he never returned, the mod never replaced him untill i brought it up, dunno for sure tho but shanba was replaced in the night phaze so near woulda been able to pick a kill. thats just crazy thoughts tho.
Also im pretty sure the scum knew korlash was the doc yesterday there is no way they didnt and im not sure rom woulda been pushing for his lynch if he knew he was the doc(well myabe to get a claim). and CR has down nothin but lurk untill today poppin up and askin for discussin gets a major FOS. seeing as how its end game and hes jusr now ready to hunt.
Willl vote soon.. maybe
anyone have a completed shanba game?

[killa seven]

yo can we get a few days extention?
ive re read this game like 3 times allready but i need to read again.
im leanin cr right now but i need to be sure.

[killa seven]

Yea im here, having pc issues, have 12 virus's.
anyways id like to discuss the game further i dont see why we have to have a strict deadline and end game.
shanba was win in this game almost to win for me, on the shanba and klebian lynches he was the first there and almost seemed to know they were scum but he could just be that good.

while rom has played horrible (no offense) with back tracking on statements he made about the doc, and hammering alabaska and saying we have muslynched then saying he was just guessing. Ross was scummy as hell and i was all over him but jtr played good and made me doubt it, the only reason to think jtr/ rom would be town is the asking for replacement because of summer camp and not being here for deadline while near replaced in during night faze. dont know tho.
would like a extension on deadline. please.

[killa seven]

yea i knew it tried to ignore the possibility tho, biggest giveaway was u and kleb wagoning me that made me sure kleb was scum, why didnt u kill on night 3?

[killa seven]

i was pushing for the dealine extension to try and build a neko case. mod said no
i didnt know how to present it without gettin me lynched.
oh well congrats neko id rather you were the scum and won instead of the other 2 since me and you played this game for like 7 months.