Is that my fault then?In post 1884, Joey_ wrote:Yes but trying to adjust your past reads along the way while talking to someone is counterproductiveIn post 1883, Quick wrote:It has nothing to do with getting into arguments with people. It has to do with the fact that when I am arguing with people, I tend to get vibes on them about whether they are being genuine or not.In post 1879, beeboy wrote:I think Quick backpedals on his reads when he gets into arguments with people.
He said I was a scum lean despite me being at the bottom of his read list as an act of damage control.
So far, I think both yours and Joey's reactions are genuine, but that doesn't mean it can't come from Scum. That is what I am thinking currently.
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how am I adjusting my past reads? I am not doing that at all?In post 1886, Quick wrote:
Is that my fault then?In post 1884, Joey_ wrote:
Yes but trying to adjust your past reads along the way while talking to someone is counterproductiveIn post 1883, Quick wrote:
It has nothing to do with getting into arguments with people. It has to do with the fact that when I am arguing with people, I tend to get vibes on them about whether they are being genuine or not.In post 1879, beeboy wrote:I think Quick backpedals on his reads when he gets into arguments with people.
He said I was a scum lean despite me being at the bottom of his read list as an act of damage control.
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Joey,In post 1888, Joey_ wrote:
You invoqued a tons of reasons to justify your contradiction basically. I was also making the assumption it applied to the beebop's case but i have no clue because i didnt read that part as muchIn post 1887, Quick wrote:
how am I adjusting my past reads? I am not doing that at all?In post 1886, Quick wrote:
Is that my fault then?In post 1884, Joey_ wrote:
Yes but trying to adjust your past reads along the way while talking to someone is counterproductiveIn post 1883, Quick wrote:
It has nothing to do with getting into arguments with people. It has to do with the fact that when I am arguing with people, I tend to get vibes on them about whether they are being genuine or not.In post 1879, beeboy wrote:I think Quick backpedals on his reads when he gets into arguments with people.
He said I was a scum lean despite me being at the bottom of his read list as an act of damage control.
So far, I think both yours and Joey's reactions are genuine, but that doesn't mean it can't come from Scum. That is what I am thinking currently.
Would it change your perspective of me if this is something that happens to me quite frequently? It should be somewhat obvious that I am not flustered by your accusations because I have been in this situation many times.
Just read this recent thread I made and look at the things I wanted help with:
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You've been tunneling me for two days straight. Am I really coming off like I am flustered? Honest question here because I don't get what you are looking at that you are judging that I am not being genuine. Usually when someone says they don't think someone is being genuine it is based off of tone. I don't think my tone is bad which leaves me scratching my head on how adamant you are being that I am Scum for not being genuine.In post 1889, Joey_ wrote:In post 1885, Quick wrote:
Maybe to you Lean Scum and Null/Scum are the same thing, but to me they are not. This is your problem with me in a nutshell: you don't understand my thought process, but you think you do, but you really don't.In post 1882, Joey_ wrote:
Hm no, you scumleaned me and if anything it means Null/ScumIn post 1880, Quick wrote:
You should be asking why I don't Scum read you as much as I was previously.In post 1878, Joey_ wrote:
You cant have me null, i made enough content to not be categorized as nullIn post 1877, Quick wrote:
My current read on you is Null/Scum.In post 1875, Joey_ wrote:
Okay, so your way of "reevaluating someones slot w/o bias" is to iso then and outing a single list of non-scumbuddies? you shitting meIn post 1874, Quick wrote:
Yeah, When I ISO'd you I decided to reevaluate you and not just Scum read you for Nero's reasons. I think the part you are not getting is that I dropped the previous bias I had when I was going by nero's reasons when I decided to ISO you myself to see if I thought the same thing.In post 1871, Joey_ wrote:No im fucking not
you ltierraly said you scumread me AFTER ISO
But you listed me as scum BEFORE ISO
??????????
Thats why i assumed you "scumread" me BEFORE the flip but never said anything about your read on me
Whats your current read on me
Why do you still scum lean me quick?
Why do you still think im mafia, do you think my push on you isnt legitimate?
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Why is Whiskers Town? Why don't you want to lynch them?In post 1894, Joey_ wrote:Your train of thoughts had huge flaws, somethings contradicted each other aka like i said, it felt like you justified your read a posteriori.
Having said that, your post about the help thread is annoying because it explains most of what im scumreading you for, if you remove all that the only thing that stays is that you have bad reads which isnt ai
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I'll highlight the important bits.
Does anyone else besides me see a contradiction here in that Joey knew I was using different terminology and then later says there is no difference?In post 1882, Joey_ wrote:In post 1880, Quick wrote:In post 1878, Joey_ wrote:In post 1877, Quick wrote:In post 1875, Joey_ wrote:
Okay, so your way of "reevaluating someones slot w/o bias" is to iso then and outing a single list of non-scumbuddies? you shitting meIn post 1874, Quick wrote:
Yeah, When I ISO'd you I decided to reevaluate you and not just Scum read you for Nero's reasons. I think the part you are not getting is that I dropped the previous bias I had when I was going by nero's reasons when I decided to ISO you myself to see if I thought the same thing.In post 1871, Joey_ wrote:No im fucking not
you ltierraly said you scumread me AFTER ISO
But you listed me as scum BEFORE ISO
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Thats why i assumed you "scumread" me BEFORE the flip but never said anything about your read on me
Whats your current read on meMy current read on you is Null/Scum.You cant have me null, i made enough content to not be categorized as null
Why do you still scum lean me quick?You should be asking why I don't Scum read you as much as I was previously.Hm no, you scumleaned me and if anything it means Null/Scum
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Do something... ffs.In post 1898, UC Voyager wrote:......-
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I am debating if this is sig material.In post 1912, Nero Cain wrote:I think most mafia players are secretly 6 years old mentally-
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Talk about Flubber. I am not seeing it like everyone else is.In post 1915, Nero Cain wrote:
I feel like Axe is kinda active lurking and his Whisk vote was just kinda "go with the flow". I'm not really remembering him ever talking about Whiskers.In post 1911, Quick wrote:Nero, what's your read on Axel and Whiskers?
If Axe is scum then that prob makes Whisk town. I'm not really using it as a towntell but I was recently in a game in which town was "just go ahead and lynch me." similar to how Whisk is doing. I'm still not a fan of Whiskers stance that "we shouldn't lynch a noob d1 'cause we'll have more info on her d2!" and I just don't think that's true. Like at all. I mean we will have more "info" but we'll have the same "more info" for everyone and it'll be all largely NAI.
Nauci is embracing it while simultaneously calling Whiskers scum and that feels a bit off as well.
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You might have a point here actually. It could just be playstyle that Joey doesn't push their own reads and instead wagon hops. IDK, don't have much experience with Joey tho.In post 1949, TwoInAMillion wrote:
This is a specific example of not wanting to make waves. You vote towards the end of the wagon and don't want to start new wagons. And I see you making very few wagon-level stances of your own. You make these little pushes that don't lead to anything.In post 1945, Joey_ wrote:In post 1943, TwoInAMillion wrote:
Who is your top scumread?In post 1941, Joey_ wrote:
Implying town cant be scummy, its the same thing. Town can sometimes scumtell, dunk literraly said the very same sentence he made when he was mafia claiming, thats kinda a legit scumtell for him no? Not anymore obviously but you get my pointIn post 1939, Nero Cain wrote:that's like not even the point. And if Dunk "scumtold" he would have flipped scum. :/In post 1926, pienyan wrote:-
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That is what I get for not being able to remember shit like this, LOL.In post 1950, Joey_ wrote:
You are such a fucking joke, i was the first to vote flubber IN THE GAME but i was pursuing quick's case who appeared scummier at the time. At the moment i voted quick i was also the first vote on him.In post 1949, TwoInAMillion wrote:
This is a specific example of not wanting to make waves. You vote towards the end of the wagon and don't want to start new wagons. And I see you making very few wagon-level stances of your own. You make these little pushes that don't lead to anything.In post 1945, Joey_ wrote:In post 1943, TwoInAMillion wrote:
Who is your top scumread?In post 1941, Joey_ wrote:
Implying town cant be scummy, its the same thing. Town can sometimes scumtell, dunk literraly said the very same sentence he made when he was mafia claiming, thats kinda a legit scumtell for him no? Not anymore obviously but you get my pointIn post 1939, Nero Cain wrote:that's like not even the point. And if Dunk "scumtold" he would have flipped scum. :/In post 1926, pienyan wrote:-
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He seemed to respond differently to things when pressure was put on him. That's what I recall, I can go back and check tho.In post 1959, beeboy wrote:
What part of Flubbers recent posting made you go from thinking he was town to liking the pressure on him?In post 1942, Quick wrote:I have ISO'd Flubber.
He seems to play a pretty tight game until his 18. Then he has a few shit posts, but I like that he has recovered from that. Then again, this could be due to seeing the pressure on him isn't going anywhere. I don't mind the pressure on Flubber but I'm not sure they are Scum.-
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I'm going to check Cabd's time stamps to see if what I was thinking is actually happening.In post 1956, Joey_ wrote:?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
I invented the flubber's case and wagon, i literraly was the first to vote him ever
After everyone backed down quick's ass, i revisted his case and i was also the only one for a good day to vote there
After quick's case felt not as scummy, i went back on my original highest scumread, flubber, who now has 3 other votes
@You both are accusing me of wagon hoping
My dunk vote was on a wagon, yes thats true but dunk was also shot literraly 30 min from my vote
My flubber vote (2nd vote in the game) was the first vote on flubber. Thats a vote on someone naked
My third real vote was on quick. He used to have a wagon but it eventually faded out. Thats a vote on someone naked
My fourth real vote is just going back to my original fos. Nothing to do at all with the wagon present-
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In post 817, Dunkerdoodles wrote:
actual readIn post 810, gerryoat wrote:
is this satire or an actual read?In post 757, Dunkerdoodles wrote:
this is locktown thoughIn post 754, Cabd wrote:In post 753, Dunkerdoodles wrote:two always acts like this as town so i don't think he's scum
UNVOTE:
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WHISKERS I CALL YE TO ARMSIn post 1383, Dunkerdoodles wrote:
ok i read upIn post 1232, Cabd wrote:
Day one oneshot dayvig.In post 1225, gerryoat wrote:ok so cabd is claiming vig? i'm confused af.
You tell me a better protown use than the one I came up with and I'll keep it in mind next time i so happen to draw this crazy role.
do you still want me to claim cause idrcIn post 1386, Dunkerdoodles wrote:does no one pay attention to my postsIn post 1388, Cabd wrote:Oh i do plan to shoot soon but there's little reason to do so without getting a claim, doncha think?In post 1399, Dunkerdoodles wrote:VOTE: beeboy
really feel this is scum
also i'd be scumreading rhah by now except apparently he's mason so :/
idk what gerry's doing but he's probably townIn post 1405, Joey_ wrote:2mill, cabd and now probably rah are locktown for meIn post 1407, Cabd wrote:
And quick/whiskers are in limbo?In post 1404, HolySpiritTurtle wrote:And from there, Alisae is strictly for the awful claim and Dunk tbh I kinda lean town on the dudeIn post 1408, Joey_ wrote:
can you claim?In post 1400, Dunkerdoodles wrote:you can just vig me if u want idrcIn post 1409, Dunkerdoodles wrote:
scummy imoIn post 1405, Joey_ wrote:2mill, cabd and now probably rah are locktown for me
i'm vt if it isn't obviousIn post 1411, Joey_ wrote:
How is me asking you to claim scummy in any way, youve been asked like 3-4 times by the vig whos threatening to shoot youIn post 1409, Dunkerdoodles wrote:
scummy imoIn post 1405, Joey_ wrote:2mill, cabd and now probably rah are locktown for me
i'm vt if it isn't obviousIn post 1413, Dunkerdoodles wrote:ok joey's lockscumIn post 1418, Dunkerdoodles wrote:
kinda scummyIn post 1412, HolySpiritTurtle wrote:In post 1407, Cabd wrote:
And quick/whiskers are in limbo?In post 1404, HolySpiritTurtle wrote:And from there, Alisae is strictly for the awful claim and Dunk tbh I kinda lean town on the dudetbh Whiskers is kind of a special case where regardless of his alignment I don't want him dead because I like the dude.(Also kinda townread him so)
Quick I lean town on.In post 1419, Dunkerdoodles wrote:
what game was thisIn post 1415, gerryoat wrote:wait, wait. get dunk
VOTE: dunk last time i was in a game with dunk she did the whole "idc lynch me" as mafIn post 1420, Cabd wrote:
K when I shoot you will publicly apologize for this post and admit I'm vig, yes or yes?In post 1416, TwoInAMillion wrote:I will say "there is no vig" over and over until people stop saying there is.In post 1422, Joey_ wrote:
dont shoot 2mil, hes one of the most obvious town since day startIn post 1420, Cabd wrote:
K when I shoot you will publicly apologize for this post and admit I'm vig, yes or yes?In post 1416, TwoInAMillion wrote:I will say "there is no vig" over and over until people stop saying there is.In post 1424, Dunkerdoodles wrote:
lol i didn't even know thatIn post 1421, gerryoat wrote:
YO SHE MADE THIS SAME EXACT POST AS SCUM BEFORE.In post 1409, Dunkerdoodles wrote:
scummy imoIn post 1405, Joey_ wrote:2mill, cabd and now probably rah are locktown for me
i'm vt if it isn't obvious
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RIGHT HERE LOL. THIS IS SCUM 100000%In post 1426, Joey_ wrote:
VOTE: dunk omgusIn post 1421, gerryoat wrote:
YO SHE MADE THIS SAME EXACT POST AS SCUM BEFORE.In post 1409, Dunkerdoodles wrote:
scummy imoIn post 1405, Joey_ wrote:2mill, cabd and now probably rah are locktown for me
i'm vt if it isn't obvious
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RIGHT HERE LOL. THIS IS SCUM 100000%
i would want him shot over lynchedIn post 1428, Dunkerdoodles wrote:also i'm a guy, idrc but yeahIn post 1432, Dunkerdoodles wrote:gerry's either a genius scum or townIn post 1433, Joey_ wrote:Can you try to articulate your scumread on my 2 last post because i really dont get it
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so scummy i cant evenIn post 1434, TwoInAMillion wrote:I'll just sheep gerry at this point. both wagons are good.
VOTE: dunkIn post 1439, Dunkerdoodles wrote:
all goodIn post 1435, gerryoat wrote:
my bad lolIn post 1428, Dunkerdoodles wrote:also i'm a guy, idrc but yeahIn post 1443, Joey_ wrote:
dude's an almost cleared masonIn post 1436, Dunkerdoodles wrote:
so scummy i cant evenIn post 1434, TwoInAMillion wrote:I'll just sheep gerry at this point. both wagons are good.
VOTE: dunkIn post 1446, Cabd wrote:"I, Two In a Million, explicitly apologize to cabd for being an asshole and failing in logic 101."In post 1447, Joey_ wrote:
this, his last 10 interactions feels rushed and bsIn post 1441, gerryoat wrote:now dunk is just trying to not give away his partners
How the fuck were Dunks posts rushed??? It looks like you just wanted Dunk dead if I am being honest. And I sorta feel like you wanted him dead because he was Scum reading you ¯\_(ツ)_/¯In post 1451, Cabd wrote:Threadlock, mod just picked up the PM-
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Why should I have to vote you when I have more than one Scum read?In post 1993, beeboy wrote:Idk how to be blunt about this without asking to be lynched.
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Why should I have to Sheep a confirmed Town?In post 2015, beeboy wrote:I feel like the fact you aren't commenting on one of your top scum reads is being wagoned by the conf town is odd?-
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Depends who the confirmed Town is. Who are we talking about here? I don't really pay much attention to VC's fwiw.In post 2018, beeboy wrote:
Because pressuring me and having people realize I am scum should be higher priority then defending yourself?In post 2016, Quick wrote:
Why should I have to Sheep a confirmed Town?In post 2015, beeboy wrote:I feel like the fact you aren't commenting on one of your top scum reads is being wagoned by the conf town is odd?-
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Cooperation has never been my thing. Do you think I should play scared or something?In post 2019, beeboy wrote:And like even if you don't care if I get lynched today, wouldn't you want to talk to a like minded conf town player to potentially change there vote since at the current rate me and Joey_ are going to get what we want?-
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What is your point? Does this make me Scum or something?In post 2026, beeboy wrote:
Also if you are being honest about this you should reconsider how you play mafia considering its a team based game.In post 2022, Quick wrote:Cooperation has never been my thing. Do you think I should play scared or something?
Like sure you can play soccer as 1 person if your amazing and win but its just an objectively poor way to play the game.-
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I don't have the patients to deal with your shitty push at this time.In post 2034, beeboy wrote:Lol-
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I know. Newb Lurk is the worst.In post 2051, Rhah wrote:Still not sure whether UC was actually catching up, tried to dumbtell, or actually dumbtold-
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It would be one thing if you were pressuring me because you thought I was Scum, but you are not. Instead you are pressuring me because either you are Scum or you don't like my playstyle or both.In post 2094, beeboy wrote:Quick is doing roughly the same thing and isnt a newbie lol-
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Why am I a Scum read? You haven't said anything about me up until this point as far as I am aware except saying you don't think I should be lynched for being rude.In post 2081, Flubbernugget wrote:Quick, beeboy, maaaaaaybe you if compromise wagons appeared , and I think I saw stuff on nauci I didn't like.-
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Its acceptable not to answer when the person asking is confbiasing you, which is pretty apparent from Beeboys push on me.In post 2067, Whiskers wrote:
Aaah, why isn't this lynched yetIn post 1653, Quick wrote:
Nope, don't feel like it. Besides, I think this line of questioning is quite odd for you.In post 1652, beeboy wrote:
Telling me the parts you agree with would be a good start.In post 1651, Quick wrote:Don't know what to tell you.
Other people doing scumhunting and someone asks Quick a question or to volunteer information and he's all just "No, I don't want to,"
How is this permissible,ever?
You realize Beeboy is just trying to make me the counter wagon to you right?In post 2067, Whiskers wrote:In post 1658, beeboy wrote:
Your just conf biasing me at this point, asking you about your reads isn't odd.In post 1657, Quick wrote:
You like to fuck around a lot.In post 1655, beeboy wrote:
What do you even know about me?In post 1653, Quick wrote:Nope, don't feel like it. Besides, I think this line of questioning is quite odd for you.In post 1659, beeboy wrote:Like asking you about your reads is pretty mafia 101, you have 0 game experience with me and your saying asking about your reads is odd.
yes good thank youIn post 1660, beeboy wrote:I've spent almost this entire game trying to get more in depth thoughts out of you ffs.
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I did say you push on me is shit. The reason for this is that you are not making original arguments for why I am Scum. All your reasons seem to be pretty generic cookie-cutter to me.In post 2100, beeboy wrote:
You said my push on you was shit.In post 2097, Quick wrote:
It would be one thing if you were pressuring me because you thought I was Scum, but you are not. Instead you are pressuring me because either you are Scum or you don't like my playstyle or both.In post 2094, beeboy wrote:Quick is doing roughly the same thing and isnt a newbie lol
You are pushing whiskers for being defensive and not pushing his reads.
I am pushimg you for being defensive and not pushing your reads.
I am now pushing you for constantly saying my reasoning is bs / personal when you are using that exact line of reasoning.
Where did I say I am pushing whiskers for being defensive? I am pretty sure I have stated my reasons for pushing Whiskers and they are not that they are being defensive.
Being defensive is not a Scum tell, sorry to tell you. And I can't push my reads when A.) I am getting barraged by multi-post after multi-post for why I am Scum and B.) My Scum reads are not in the thread and C.) I don't like to reuse the same arguments over and over.-
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Anything you think applies to people in a general sense should prolly be thrown out the window when it comes to me. I have seen so many times that people say "Quick (or LQ) wouldn't do X as Town" and I have not seen that argument be correct a single time.In post 2109, beeboy wrote:Being defensive / survivalistic isnt a scum tell you arent wrong but most people who play like that push there reads along side being super defensive. If you wanted to wrap your head around my push a bit more.-
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OK, what buzzword did I use?In post 2108, beeboy wrote:Well you just used buzz words to discredit me, i can find the quote when i get home. If you think i am pushing you into a corner ill give you space until tomorrow unless i see a shift thst enables me to lynch you which i domt see happening-
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Why do any of these things mean I am Scum? I already said cooperation isn't really my thing. If I am deflecting or ignoring shit it is because I hate having to explain basic shit and how it is wrong. Openly caustic or unhelpful is interesting. Why do these mean I am Scum?In post 2070, Whiskers wrote:Quick- Refuses to work with town, deflects or ignores all questions, is openly caustic and unhelpful, and somehow also isn't lynched. Piggybacked/sheeped Alisae to vote me.
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Why do you think I am not addressing things when you are quoting me addressing things?In post 2113, Whiskers wrote:
admittedly a better wagon than the flubber one.In post 2095, gerryoat wrote:
ok then i'll join another wagon VOTE: whiskersIn post 2091, Whiskers wrote:I Do Not Like This Wagon.
LOLOLOL, haven't you learned yet? Quick never addresses anything!In post 2099, Joey_ wrote:Wtf quick, you contracdicted yourself and refused to engage with beE's fos, that has nothing to do with your playstyle. Also this
"Instead you are pressuring me because either you are Scum" like how is that even relevant in the context? Even if he was mafiahis case could be legetimate and youd have to address it.
No, incorrect.In post 2102, Quick wrote:
Its acceptable not to answer when the person asking is confbiasing you, which is pretty apparent from Beeboys push on me.In post 2067, Whiskers wrote:
Aaah, why isn't this lynched yetIn post 1653, Quick wrote:
Nope, don't feel like it. Besides, I think this line of questioning is quite odd for you.In post 1652, beeboy wrote:
Telling me the parts you agree with would be a good start.In post 1651, Quick wrote:Don't know what to tell you.
Other people doing scumhunting and someone asks Quick a question or to volunteer information and he's all just "No, I don't want to,"
How is this permissible,ever?
And I could ask you to supply evidence of Beeboy sticking to you due to confirmation bias, but you won't, so I'm not going to bother.
Cool! I'd love a counterwagon on Quickscum.In post 2102, Quick wrote:
You realize Beeboy is just trying to make me the counter wagon to you right?In post 2067, Whiskers wrote:In post 1658, beeboy wrote:
Your just conf biasing me at this point, asking you about your reads isn't odd.In post 1657, Quick wrote:
You like to fuck around a lot.In post 1655, beeboy wrote:
What do you even know about me?In post 1653, Quick wrote:Nope, don't feel like it. Besides, I think this line of questioning is quite odd for you.In post 1659, beeboy wrote:Like asking you about your reads is pretty mafia 101, you have 0 game experience with me and your saying asking about your reads is odd.
yes good thank youIn post 1660, beeboy wrote:I've spent almost this entire game trying to get more in depth thoughts out of you ffs.
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Yeah, I don't think just because you are defending yourself means you are being defensive. Being defensive is a tonal thing. Someone can be defensive and defend themselves OR they can defend themselves and NOT be defensive. You are equating two things as being the same that are not the same thing. I still stand by my statement that being defensive isn't a Scum tell, and I will also say I haven't used the fact that you have been defensive as a reason for why you are Scum.In post 2116, Whiskers wrote:In post 1136, Quick wrote: Third,they are more concerned with defending themselves than pushing their Scum reads.You can see this in the tone and language that they use. Its just off and doesn't ring like they are innocent.In post 2105, Quick wrote: Where did I say I am pushing whiskers for being defensive?I am pretty sure I have stated my reasons for pushing Whiskers and they are not that they are being defensive.
Being defensive is not a Scum tell,sorry to tell you. And I can't push my reads when A.) I am getting barraged by multi-post after multi-post for why I am Scum and B.) My Scum reads are not in the thread and C.) I don't like to reuse the same arguments over and over.-
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Because I didn't think you were doing that.In post 2103, Joey_ wrote:
Why didnt i deserve those allegations when i pushed you ?In post 2102, Quick wrote:
Its acceptable not to answer when the person asking is confbiasing you, which is pretty apparent from Beeboys push on me.In post 2067, Whiskers wrote:
Aaah, why isn't this lynched yetIn post 1653, Quick wrote:
Nope, don't feel like it. Besides, I think this line of questioning is quite odd for you.In post 1652, beeboy wrote:
Telling me the parts you agree with would be a good start.In post 1651, Quick wrote:Don't know what to tell you.
Other people doing scumhunting and someone asks Quick a question or to volunteer information and he's all just "No, I don't want to,"
How is this permissible,ever?
You realize Beeboy is just trying to make me the counter wagon to you right?In post 2067, Whiskers wrote:In post 1658, beeboy wrote:
Your just conf biasing me at this point, asking you about your reads isn't odd.In post 1657, Quick wrote:
You like to fuck around a lot.In post 1655, beeboy wrote:
What do you even know about me?In post 1653, Quick wrote:Nope, don't feel like it. Besides, I think this line of questioning is quite odd for you.In post 1659, beeboy wrote:Like asking you about your reads is pretty mafia 101, you have 0 game experience with me and your saying asking about your reads is odd.
yes good thank youIn post 1660, beeboy wrote:I've spent almost this entire game trying to get more in depth thoughts out of you ffs.
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Like what posts have I made that CANNOT come from Town?In post 2124, Joey_ wrote:Quick play is mostly incoherent, odd, contradicting and so on but theres a few of his posts hard to read as not coming from town @bee i know you share the same opinion-
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Yeah, I think if you look at a post I made just after that, you will see that it was because I wasn't paying attention to the VCs.In post 2127, Joey_ wrote:
You defintely have a few posts that are well below average in quality and are scummy as hell, namely your post about me jumping wagons and agreeing with 2mill is oneIn post 2125, Quick wrote:
Like what posts have I made that CANNOT come from Town?In post 2124, Joey_ wrote:Quick play is mostly incoherent, odd, contradicting and so on but theres a few of his posts hard to read as not coming from town @bee i know you share the same opinion
You jumping on Dunk IS Scummy!!! Like you said their last 10 posts felt "rushed" and that just looks like a BS reason to think they were Scum-
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I've responded to a lot of shit thrown at me this game, starting with Alisae so that is unfair of you to say that I never respond to anything, which is a huge gigantic exaggeration.In post 2128, Whiskers wrote:
944: you saw my join date (2011), thought IIn post 2122, Quick wrote:
You should really reread these posts:In post 2104, beeboy wrote:I like how Quick has no valid argument to reply to how he is pushing Whiskers for a line of reasoning he is calling pure bs so he is just ignoring me
994, 1136, 1145, 1272mustplay on another site. "turns out I was right," except that I haven't played on another site since ~2011. Meanwhile, it's not alignment indicative. ALSO, me knowing "Day phases are a week, not two weeks" isn't indicative of me playing on another site, it'sbecause I read the fucking rules
944: You tried to trap me in a "null/scum response," because I didn't question Cabd's claim. It's been gone over again and again why I didn't need to question Cabd's claim, this point is moot.
944: You try to misconstrue the requirements for a policy lynch. I think I'd be justified in lynching you because you're fucking toxic, but that was never really my intention.
1136: There was no need to question "the double day thing,"
1136: I alluded to a policy lynch while doing a catchup post, but never pushed it. Again, you bring up that "we haven't even played together before!!" which isn't a requirement for a policy lynch.
1136: I didn't have the time to push scumreads that day. Defending myself from people poking me was good IMO, gives good reads and good information to work from. Aka, Interacting With Others. At the end of the post you quip, "I just don'tfeelit."
1145: I am honestly so tired.
why did I even try to reply to Quick's posts in earnest? that's more courtesy than he provides anybody else.
You should really respond to 1145 because those are the best reasons I have for Scum reading you.-
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Why am I required to know that if I am Town?In post 2131, Joey_ wrote:
regardless of your VC knowledge, like i said, you shouldve known that i push my own reads because i was pushing you for days. Yet, not knowing the VC doesnt excuse the fact you misrep me with something you shouldve known but its w/eIn post 2129, Quick wrote:
Yeah, I think if you look at a post I made just after that, you will see that it was because I wasn't paying attention to the VCs.In post 2127, Joey_ wrote:
You defintely have a few posts that are well below average in quality and are scummy as hell, namely your post about me jumping wagons and agreeing with 2mill is oneIn post 2125, Quick wrote:
Like what posts have I made that CANNOT come from Town?In post 2124, Joey_ wrote:Quick play is mostly incoherent, odd, contradicting and so on but theres a few of his posts hard to read as not coming from town @bee i know you share the same opinion
You jumping on Dunk IS Scummy!!! Like you said their last 10 posts felt "rushed" and that just looks like a BS reason to think they were Scum-
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Me, sorry.In post 2138, LicketyQuickety wrote:
I don't pay attention to the same things that other people do. Its the reason why no one understands me.In post 2136, Whiskers wrote:
because you read the thread and possibly even have meta knowledge of joey.In post 2135, Quick wrote:Why am I required to know that if I am Town?
because you observed the fact that he was pushing his own scumreads and that twoinamillion was objectively demonstrably wrong.-
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Yeah, you are forgetting how badly Joey flipped out on me as well. Just thought I would add that.In post 2153, Nero Cain wrote:@joey Why were you voting Flubber?
Why are you so pissed off @ my push on you but you are/were rather calm when Whiskers pushed you? You OMGUS scumread me and Dunk but not Whiskers. What gives here?-
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I mean, I'm not even sure I am against my lynch at this point because it will provide a shit ton of info for Town (given I am lynched for whatever reason).
Why am I concerned about getting lynched? Because I am lynch bait, that's why. I get lynched D1 more than average. I have never been someone who survives long in games. I am going to try and do a reads list.
I will just add this: If Cabd is Scum, then this sucks massive cock because I don't think there is any way they are getting lynched. They should be NKed tonight, So if they are still alive at like D5 or something, Lynch his ass.-
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Now that I think about it, you said you were going to provide some juicy ass reasoning for why flubber is Scum. Mind sharing that?In post 2155, Nero Cain wrote:TBQH, I've been sorta ignoring the you vs. whomever is scumreading you thing-
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In post 1733, Nero Cain wrote:My gut says he's town and I'd lynch Whiskers over him. What do you think of my recent Joey and Flubber pushes?In post 1555, Nero Cain wrote:at the same time...
this is not entirely accurate, I feel. the Dunk wagon was 2 shit players, Rhah and then Whiskers. Rhah is town unless you think its a 2iam and Rhah team. I'm notIn post 1503, Flubbernugget wrote:okay cool so now we know dunkaroo was a counterwagon to whiskers tooTHEbiggest Whiskers fan and it's entirely plausible that she's scum but even if she was this is not the scum led counter wagon you are claiming it is.
Manipulative?In post 1567, Nero Cain wrote:
no?In post 1556, Flubbernugget wrote:You're saying there's only three scum?
CABD is not team scum.
Rhah is probs not scum.
Gerry might as well be scum regardless of pm color.
My point is this doesn't really seem like a "counterwagon" as you are suggesting.In post 1569, Nero Cain wrote:
Rhah is a claimed mason.....In post 1566, Flubbernugget wrote:I don't recall you town reading Rhah beforeIn post 1597, Nero Cain wrote:
I'm not saying that either. I'm saying tat the dunker wagon doesn't realy seem like a "conterwagon" as I don't think scum other than maybe Whiskers was pushing it.In post 1588, Flubbernugget wrote:I see Nero's point. I think it would be more apt to look for scum in cabd and gerryoat upon a whiskers flip than to use the dunkerdoodles wagon as a case against him.
It feels...convenient, I guess...that you'd go "oh counterwagon!" Its kinda like using a "mechanical" reason and its just easy and path of least resistance.In post 1617, Nero Cain wrote:
remind me pls?In post 1614, Flubbernugget wrote:But it's in addition to the bigger issue I'm having with whiskers.In post 1775, Nero Cain wrote:
Why on Flubber?In post 1773, beeboy wrote:I feel uneasy being on a Quick and Flubber wagon.In post 1803, Nero Cain wrote:9. FlubbernuggetIn post 1804, Nero Cain wrote:that leaves.
9. Flubbernugget
Sans Flubber (since we are already voting him) HST seems like the scummiest out of this group.
Like, Nero, come on here. That's the last I see Flubber I see in your ISO. Still waiting for you to slather on that case for Flubber, because I am not sure I see it, honestly. Granted, I can see you Scumhunting, but I can also see it as kinda like an opportunistic kind of stances lately. IDK.In post 1923, Nero Cain wrote:
I'm going to get on this later. I want to see some things first.In post 1916, Quick wrote:Talk about Flubber. I am not seeing it like everyone else is.-
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IDK, I haven't like memorized your ISO, Nero. If I was going to try and throw and argument out there I would say you could be trying to vote a good player early due to the psychological effect this would have on people thinking you are not being opportunistic. Something like that anyways.In post 2162, Nero Cain wrote:Why was it opportunistic that I thought HIS vote on Whiskers was opportunistic and voted that?-
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I wasn't really paying attention to your flubber push, tbh. It wasn't really until later when Flubber started getting traction that I thought I should be paying attention to it. Then I ISO'd Flubber and gave my thoughts on that slot.In post 2164, Nero Cain wrote:but also, if you were unsatisfied with my Flubber push why were you not talking about this 500 posts ago when I starting pushing him?-
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Yeah, my Scumhunting prolly does suck.In post 2165, Nero Cain wrote:
this is a shit response. That has like ZERO to do with anything. If you aren't scum your hunting is just as bad as TIAM. :/In post 2163, Quick wrote:IDK, I haven't like memorized your ISO, Nero.-
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I don't mean any offence to this Joey, but POE on D1 usually isn't a good idea. D1 should be all about looking at independently Scummy things IMO.In post 2170, Joey_ wrote:
Honestly, everytime i play im trying not to take it too seriously but i end up giving no fucking and being less civil, the simple explanation to your answers is that, also i townread whiskers at the time of his pushes when i didnt townred you bothIn post 2153, Nero Cain wrote:@joey Why were you voting Flubber?
Why are you so pissed off @ my push on you but you are/were rather calm when Whiskers pushed you? You OMGUS scumread me and Dunk but not Whiskers. What gives here?
Why did i pussed flub, i was bussing like you said right? I didnt like some of flub content, a slight poe analysis points to flub, wagon compo says flub's okay yada yada he has done nothing really worthy either, didnt engage me since my fos-
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Just becauseIn post 2177, Quick wrote:@Joey_, I am not going to vote Flubber just because if I don't you will vote me. You're going to be hard pressed to show that I am Scumjust becauseI don't vote Flubber.
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