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[UnaBombaH]

FIRST!

VOTE: mulch - must be scum.

[UnaBombaH]

I've actually played with most of you guys at least once!

The birds are all new to me, but I've seen my share of devil bunny, Doggo, assemble and LUV.
Kokichi and skeletor once, 2inA1000000 twice(?).

[UnaBombaH]

VOTE: 23-19

They are listed fourth in the mod-post. 4=23-19? MIND. BLOWN.

[UnaBombaH]

Oeh ma gush!
Carcalilly is in the game too!
Time for a scheduled scumread on them that always turns out to be misplaced!

VOTE: Carcalilly

[UnaBombaH]

Hes Finnish though

Always vote Finns

If I remember correctly you're australian, right?

Voting for a Finn is always a good choice when it's NOT about who to lynch!

[UnaBombaH]

Hey doggo.
Tell me who to kill, and I'll consider actually doing it.

[UnaBombaH]

It's not like you to have to think about it..?

[UnaBombaH]

Ahhh I can't believe there's so many posts in this game already. I'm very busy today. I will get caught up tonight.

Oh wow..arrives late and then scumclaims in thread.
VOTE: Jodaxq
This one's legit guys.

[UnaBombaH]

You know, 2inAMil vigged me the last time we played together.
Maybe I should return the favor this game?
VOTE: TwoInAMillion

[UnaBombaH]

We could just vig kokichi and not worry about his alignment

You sure we have one?

[UnaBombaH]

Lilly is 3rd party

So not in this game then?
I mean, based on the fact this game is mod-confirmed to not have a 3rd party.

[UnaBombaH]

I thought him coming after me was pretty towny for a newbie, and I could follow his thoughts, flawed as they were

I'd actually argue the opposite.

[UnaBombaH]

No one else really seems to be suspicious of Una.

UNVOTE:

I'm interested in hearing why you (or anyone for that matter) should be?

[UnaBombaH]

We could just vig kokichi and not worry about his alignment

Howzat

Not going to work.

Nah, you know..I'm starting to lean towards Lassie having it right here.

Assuming we have a vig, they should shoot Kokichi unless they start towntelling before the days end.
They are being vague alignment-wise (on purpose), so they should be shot (on purpose).

[UnaBombaH]

There should be a murder!

..of crows?

[UnaBombaH]

suspicion meter for unabomba has increased

...and here I was thinking you might be able to read me accurately after all..

[UnaBombaH]

LUV who do you think I should kill?

[UnaBombaH]

Claiming bulletproof does not confirm oneself as town.

Then how about me claiming to shoot you?

[UnaBombaH]

Why are we speculating about having a Vig?

If you paid attention, my post was in reference to this.

We could just vig kokichi and not worry about his alignment

Howzat

[UnaBombaH]

I also asked LUV who he wants dead - the answer SHOULD be the same as to a question of "who should I vote for?"

[UnaBombaH]

That would be a bad idea if you want to shoot scum, assuming you are a vig in the first place.

???
Never claimed Vig.
Similar to how Kokichi never claimed BP..?

People like to read so much into so little!

[UnaBombaH]

I'm thinking we should VOTE: Aneninen.

They have a very similar type of "catching up" as I do. Makes me uncomfortable.

[UnaBombaH]

@TiaM - we have started in this site around the same time: do you have any idea how many games you have played (I could check this from your profile I guess), and how you have fared as town/scum respectively?

[UnaBombaH]

So, quick readlist. (It's late here so I don't have energy for more.) Not ordered inside of a category.

Town

Frogger (It's easy to see a town mindset behind his posts)
Carcalilly (Partly gut, partly her answers)
Rb (His posts seem to be about scumhunting)
TwoInaMillion (Because I believe Carcalilly, that's all)

Lean Town

Texcat (Because her posts match the meta I remember)
Transcend (Even if there were some disturbing things, I don't think he's scum)

Null/Unsorted

(Keep it in mind that Null =/= Unsorted)
23-19 (No content at all)
Assemblerowts (No content, but that vote was a bit WTF)
Aneninen (slow as an obese Lapras and keeps posting pigeons)
Macabre (Could go either way, he hasn't produced too much useful content so far)
Lovebird (Either she's scum, or she's a lynch-bait. I'll explain if needed.)
Jodaxq (Too little content so far)

Lean Scum

Umbreon (See above)
Kokichi (He cares too much about the reads on him)
Brassherald (I don't think his "reads" are genuine, however Jodaxq said he's similar on Day1 regardless of alignment)

Scum

LilUzi Vert (See above, I don't think his "reads" are genuine)
Mulch (Basically, everything he does)

________

This may change later because I'm still waiting for certain answers.

Skimming through these later pages again to try and grasp and idea of why I scumread certain slots.
This post keeps raising flags in my eyes.
Will certainly return to this once we see some flips.

[UnaBombaH]

The fox is suspects dove because he knows of its misdeeds. We must do something!

VOTE: Unabombah

I understand posting in flavor and/or roleplaying and whatnot, but when almost every post (especially the ones with a vote in it) follow suit, it starts to muddy up reads.

[UnaBombaH]

Also, not really sure what to make of Unabombah's weird vig "softing" but it doesn't seem like he'd be a good day one lynch.

I haven't softed a vig.
I find it VERY INTERESTING that people are willing to throw such suspicions/comments around D1.
I mean, if I ever thought I had noticed a soft from a Vig, I wouldn't think it helps much to shout it around..

[UnaBombaH]

Dem P-edits..
I'm at work guys, that post laid as a draft on the comp. for around an hour..

Give me time to properly catch up within tonight, and I'll make it worth your while.

[UnaBombaH]

can someone give me a quick tldr of what koki has claimed? has there been any other claims?

Also brass is obvscum. can someone also tldr that too?

I'm going to catch up more in depth tomorrow as I've caught up on my school work finally and will have a few hours to spend on this. apologies for being absent!

preliminary i've got a couple townreads: doggo, rb, frogger.

null-to-scum would be assemble and mulch. I think thats more from early d1 hyper-posting and conversely non-posting at all... although assemble is an infamous lurker, so meh. also from what i understand this is standard mulch, so i'm gonna wait until d2 to sort some of these kinds of slots.

not much else in the way of scum reads in my quick skim. expect more of me tomorrow!

One of the worst entrances/re-appearances I've seen in a while..
I mean, I do appreciate the gesture of saying you're going to catch up, but I always dislike trying to throw something else in there forcefully..

[UnaBombaH]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Kokichi Oma

Because. That. Was. Pigeon. Poop. Period.
And no, I don't want to see ANY talk about it, why.

I can actually like this, Kokichis posting hasn't earned any towncred from me thusfar.

And I don't care shyt if I eat the bullet or the rope because of this post. It's totally worth it.

...aand this was so LAMIST my teeth ache.

[UnaBombaH]

i really wanna make good posts but im so fucking tired sorry

I do not even know why, but I've come to townread posts like these from certain players (such as rb and trans)
Feels very genuine, and I know it SHOULD be totally NAI, but..

[UnaBombaH]

Three votes for 2319 on page 23...it seems I'm not the only one who thought his semi-catchup wasn't sufficient..

[UnaBombaH]

okay but this gimmick is gonna ge t old and make me want to lynch/vig you at some point if you don't stop

Amen to that, and shoot the bird already.

[UnaBombaH]

The quality of being opportunistic takes into account the vote at the time of casting, not after the other vote or votes have been withdrawn. His saying he was the only vote misrepped the point.

Speaking of Kokichi, he fake claims Mason with Mulch. Why do that unless he though Mulch would go along with it?

Indeed.

FoS: Mulch
Even though Mulch called out the fake claim, I don't like that Kokichi seemed to think he'd go along with such a weak fake claim.

.....nevermind then.

brassherald+kokichi/mulch would be an interesting scum-duo with these kind of posts.

[UnaBombaH]

I think Kokichi and Mulch are lovers. Kokichi is scum and is desperately trying to get confirmed as town. He decides to claim mason and hope that Mulch will go along with it. Honest town Mulch does not, but he does not want to die with his lover so soon. (Or alternatively, a not so honest town Mulch realizes that a counterclaim would be bad for town, and does not go along with the fake claim.)

Now THIS is reaching (or a joke I didn't catch)..
I get often bashed for reaching with my sh*t, but holy reach this was shit.

[UnaBombaH]

608 makes me want to legitimately smash my head into a brick wall.

Oh my god..
When I first saw Lassie and how he plays/posts, I would've immediately site-flaked if someone would've told my thoughts go on same tracks as his do within a few months..

[UnaBombaH]

Una wagon?

I think he rolled scum and was awkwardly doing his best

to mask his displeasure about it

. He's now struggling to appear like he's game solving.

You really don't know me, do you?
With the amount of games we have shared, I'm a bit disappointed with this.

Am I allowed to post quotes from a PT of a game that has ended, and the PT has been made open?

[UnaBombaH]

trying to understand mulch's motives in any mafia game is a very bad idea and i recommend you just wait until mulch gets copped or some shit.

to answer your question: i have no fucking idea.

OK, I'm officially tuned into Trans' channel right now.
Except that I would like to add that mulch defending Kokichi like that makes more sense with scum!mulch/town!kokichi, than it does with scum!kokichi/town!mulch....
That sucks, because I really want to think Kokichi is scum, and we can just kill them and never have to see that grinning goth-character again. (or whatever it is)

[UnaBombaH]

One of the worst entrances/re-appearances I've seen in a while..
I mean, I do appreciate the gesture of saying you're going to catch up, but I always dislike trying to throw something else in there forcefully..

you're welcome!
don't really understand what was forced tbh. i said what i felt from my skimming? forced would be me jumping on your wagon rn.

cautious scum imo.

VOTE: 2319

Even this I can sign. Officially sheeping Trans until monday (have wedding to help with this weekend)
VOTE: 2319

[UnaBombaH]

@mod can we have a vote count?

Good thing we have such concerned citizens..

[UnaBombaH]

then i guess you don't know me

It's okay, I know you.

..or at the very least you THINK you know?

[UnaBombaH]

My catchups are always ok.
It's when I try to stay on top of things..!

[UnaBombaH]

Guys.
Let's like, lynch the number-dude or the brass-dude.
Let's not lynch frog or TiaM or mulch or rb or trans or carca.
Let's hope we actually have a vig after all that bs shouting about that, and they can kill the dude who roleplays as a poem-bird or Kokichi. (or whoever isn't lynched between number-dude and brass-dude)
Like, I'm pretty tired and I have to go to a wedding tomorrow and help with the organizations beforehand and help with the cleaning afterwards on Sunday, so I'll be around for a short while when I wake up, and after that it's something like 40h from now.

[UnaBombaH]

I hate the fact that people now call me Umbreon..

[UnaBombaH]

Have a terrible hangover, might not be able to post before tomorrow after all..
Had fun at the wedding though.

I'm not scum - mulch is talking out of his ass here.
I'd guess his "reasoning" for me not towntelling is that I haven't posted as much content as I usually do, and I haven't been openly paranoid of anyone.
Those used to be me every D1, but it's actually been changing over the course of past few months anyway. I only try to draw attention to myself now who never I feel like there aren't enough interactions to read, so I force them.

[UnaBombaH]

Jodax AND brass IMO.

I'm fully caught up guys, but I wont be posting much today either..sorry about that.
My body is still suffering from *something* and I'm thinking my yesterday wasn't just a hangover..

If you want a brutally honest and disgusting depiction of my toilet-situation:

Spoiler:

Everything that comes out of my ass today is like water, and GREEN. Not feeling very good to say the least.

[UnaBombaH]

I may be a bit overreactive to people like Gamma but it's because scum tend to gravitate towards attacking me when I am town for some reason.

Same with me - I can actually sympathize with this sentiment.
I think it's because we are both "always" mislynchable in a way with how we post and present our thoughts, but still more vocal (and maybe even sometimes more on point) than the slots that tend to lurk or play fence-sitty..

So I'd say it's actually a "thing" that scum pushes for players like you and me as mislynches D1-D3, and tries to leave the even worse lynchbaits to LyLo.

#GivingMyselfAPush #IStillThinkYouMightBeScumThisGame

[UnaBombaH]

I also think I had an epiphany.
A50, Fissure are town for sure.
This revelation would also fit well with scum!Gamma, but that might be stretching it.
Gonna go dig back up the posts that pinged in the last few pages next, I think I noticed some bad acting.

[UnaBombaH]

It's a good thing we have your "feelings" or we'd be in some really deep shit.

Unnecessary, and feels like scum trying to act bold. No townvibes in this post.

It's a good thing we have your "feelings" or we'd be in some really deep shit.

It's a good thing we have your "feelings" or we'd be in some really deep shit.

like why the FUCK are you so determined ALREADY to devalue my opinion? As I see it you're concerned about me suspecting you and would like to discredit me before I get people on you. I see past your bullshit however.
VOTE: Twoinamillion
And don't think because I'm not voting you I'm not noticing you Mulch. Real classy swooping in and blank quoting two posts with a clear intent to discredit.

This would fit magnificently well as either S/S-theater, or TvS, and it could be either one of them. (2iaM-Gamma that is)

You know what I might just leave already if you guys are already going to be such toxic fuckfaces

Doesn't feel natural.

---------I HATE HOW MULCH SWINGS HIS VOTE AROUND, AND FROGGY FOLLOWS ON PAGE 48-------------------------

But if no one's going to give me a chance I'm not going to go through the process, ESPECIALLY if I detect toxicity towards me

I assume you checked the playerlist/parts of the game before subbing in?
This tone still doesn't sit well with me, even though I can definitely understand the emotion he's trying to convey here. (I've joined a slot that was heavily, and falsely, scumread too, and it can get overwhelming easily)

Gamma is obv scum. Can we lynch his slot now and get it over with?

Too bold. Either a townie with no reason to "bully" Gamma around, or scum who tries to be townread too hard.

Just finish your catch up gamma.

+

By the way your reads are very much not aligned with mine at the moment.

Not scumreading Trans atm, but I've seen him do something similar as scum before..I'll have to check where and what it was if Doggo isn't shot N1. (it's not like I want you to die, but all the baddies always want Lassie out of the way.. )

you're solid town now 2iam (:

I dislike this.

I can see some of the people on the Gamma wagon being scum so there is a chance he could be town, meh.

Namely rb and almost50

At least one of these is wrong. Having bad town-reads isn't necessarily scummy though..

That post #1246 is like...so...mmmh. Mastapiisu.

Day needs to end.

Ufff.

Gut feeling this is a mislynch lol

Mulch, I'm quite certain you are town at this point, but posts like these feel bad..and not the least because you are on the wagon yourself. I could understand that comment if you were yelling from the sidelines as others drive for their lynch.

I haven't read the new posts but I think I saw something.

VOTE: unvote

Something's wrong here. It could be my reads, obviously, but could be something else. Or both.

...and from someone who yells "poop" everytime they discredit other players posts, this post from them is absolute horseshit.
I mean, I love to do shit like this myself, but when someone spends most of their creativity on bashing the way other players express their opinions, you just lose the right to post shit like this.
VOTE: Aneninen

[UnaBombaH]

So where I'm at currently, in a condensed form: Gamma-LUV-2iaM could make sense. (Lovebird doesn't NOT FIT in there, so that would complete the four, but feels a bit too easy)
I feel like Gamma will be the lynch today, my only issues are with guys like mulch waffling on the subject.

[UnaBombaH]

>Says all that about Gamma

>Votes Anennem


Can't make this stuff up.

Sometimes it's more about sending the message.

Gamma ain't running anywhere for now, and I feel like our bird trio needs a dissection.

[UnaBombaH]

I dislike mulch using his both accounts now.
If you have/use alts, PLEASE, try to use the right one.

It makes ISO-diving etc very inconvenient lategame.

[UnaBombaH]

A50, Fissure are town for sure.

I haven't crumbed anything though. Doesn't that worry you a bit?

I just realized I've been a fool once more, and you are back on the list along with mulch/fissure.

So I'll draw my line in a different manner: VOTE: Gamma Emerald

If they flip town, I'll look for scum in my previous "townpile" and their wagon.
If they flip scum, I'm most interested in TiaM/LUV.

I'm ready to end the day now.

[UnaBombaH]

Do you think fake claiming is townie?? What if he was counterclaimed?

I'm masons with Mulch he confirmed it

The day isn't over yet, you can probably still squeeze in a claim or two before it ends!

[UnaBombaH]

Well, that's just great.

Why on earth didn't you post anything earlier then?

Mulch/LUV makes sense as of now then.

[UnaBombaH]

MUCLH IS SCUM

People who

should

see that (or are more likely to) are:
Una (bc.. reasons)
Transcend+Assemble (same reasons but less so)
Annen+Gamma+Fro99er (same same reasons but much less so)

However, Fro99er is likely scum with Mulch. Assemble may or may not be their scum p. So...

My reasoning (please pay attention, especially Una/Trans/Annen/Gamma):

RSV vote was on Assemble+mild push on him, followed by a soft defense of Lovebird (I take back the SR on Love because of this)

Bla bla bla ... then he votes Fro99er saying he is scum, but unvotes in the very next post, then votes him again, then bounces between Joda, Assemble, 2319, brass, transcend, Una .. etc.

Now,

Mulch as a Mafioso tries to distance by faking a scum read on a scum buddy and pushing them for no apparent reason. If he is scum; at least one of his starting 2 votes was on a scum buddy.

The only thing missing here is 6 pages of spam at the start of the game.

However, I'm willing to follow the crowd because I know I don't have what it takes to convince everyone with my case. I'm just making it well known where I stand and why in case I'm NK'd on N1 (it's becoming a fad of late).

This is probably the one game where I actually townread and agree with you, and you end up being scum?

[UnaBombaH]

I like how all these people are attempting to line up lynches when gamma is probably trolling twilight lol.

1 shot vig in 17 is shit.

Pidgeon poop??
So it WAS ANENINENEINEN AFTER ALL?!?!?

[UnaBombaH]

Well, that's just great.

Why on earth didn't you post anything earlier then?

Mulch/LUV makes sense as of now then.

This post is pretty much autorope material with a green gamma btw.

You disagree with mulch/LUV then?

[UnaBombaH]

Also you thinking I'd say anything like that as scum, no matter what Gamma flips is a sad testament to our previous mutual scum-game then..

[UnaBombaH]

I disagree with you jumping on them right away when it hasn't been flipped.

And even then uzis hammer was ok.

OK, Trans/mulch then.

[UnaBombaH]

I disagree with you jumping on them right away when it hasn't been flipped.

And even then uzis hammer was ok.

OK, Trans/mulch then.

Fuck off.

Nah, I like my current position.

[UnaBombaH]

I'm also like 1+1=2 sure Gamma flips scum, I was just fishing for reactions from anyone who is currently online.

Like LUV said, claiming that one-shot made it stick out.
People might have even accepted a full vig more easily.

[UnaBombaH]

I still think gamma is joking around bc 1sv in 17 is wut

You think unlimited more likely? 3-shot?

[UnaBombaH]

Huoh, if we really haven't hammered Gamma, let's just do it and get to bed.

[UnaBombaH]

I'm also like 1+1=2 sure Gamma flips scum, I was just fishing for reactions from anyone who is currently online.

Like LUV said, claiming that one-shot made it stick out.
People might have even accepted a full vig more easily.

What ..........................

What is so hard to understand?

[UnaBombaH]

UNVOTE:

Oh shit he is L1 lol

Don't think a hammer feels so good anymore?

[UnaBombaH]

Bussing is easy when you're driving hard, but when you have to slowly roll over your buddy and hear the crunching of bones..

[UnaBombaH]

It's miller, but it only activates the night I use my shot, that's why it's irrelevant

...........

[UnaBombaH]

This is better than Transcend softing/claiming "Dominator" in Boony Toonz!

[UnaBombaH]

I'm also a vig, but I get tagged as "guilty" only if I shoot an innocent.
I can become innocent myself again, but only if I ask for forgiveness.
I investigate as "doesn't have a gun" to a Gunsmith because mine isn't loaded at all times, and I keep it hidden under my pillow.
I am, however, immune to any Doctor-heals because I'm afraid of needles.

My role-PM said I'm a "Town At-Start-Innocent, possibly guilty later, Vigilante."

[UnaBombaH]

He wants someone to come in clueless and outright counterclaim him?

[UnaBombaH]

All I can think of at least.

[UnaBombaH]

I mean, if Gamma really flips that, and EXACTLY THAT, I'll honestly replace out of this game.

[UnaBombaH]

We lynch that stupid-ass fakeclaim, and in the situation it's real, I do not feel a morsel of remorse, for such a claim is stupid, and that slot is scummy.
No decent townplayer should hope to be spared with a claim like that.

It's called "UnaBomb is one of the few players in existence who

actually has a brain

."

[UnaBombaH]

(I'm proud of that praise if nobody got the hint)

[UnaBombaH]

I'm off to bed now, and I honestly need this game to be in nighttime when I wake up.

[UnaBombaH]

if there was a bus it was probably una.

Such a hopeful shot.

[UnaBombaH]

depends who the vig is but sounds about right

Agreed.

[UnaBombaH]

Honestly i hate kokichi's attitude towards that brass wagon. Your thoughts?

Agreed.

[UnaBombaH]

So..A50 was such an obvtown-slot, I'm willing to give a pass on rb/trans not dying N1.

Scum might have also thought there could've been a ~protective~ on either of them.

[UnaBombaH]

i'm starting to wish vig tagged macabre and not mulch

I don't have much experience with Vigs tbh, but I'd say Vig shot mulch because we landed scum D1.
Or is there a reason for Vig to NOT shoot N1 anyway?

[UnaBombaH]

Whoever is vig should just vig themself after that awful shot, whichever one they shot. Both obvious towns.

It's always subjective, whether the shot was good or bad. I don't feel especially bad about it myself.

Also: at the idea anyone should've followed you after how you threw meme-claims around like free candy D1.
While I didn't pin you as scum yesterday, I also didn't hold your thoughts in a very high value.

[UnaBombaH]

I mean, I AM positive there's scum in Trans/rb/Kokichi, and I'll read some interactions when I'm not phoneposting.

It's a beautiful yet cold morning in Finland.

[UnaBombaH]

The fox chews at the unity of all that is good! Do not listen to this fox! It is the worst fox!

Sorry if my posting has been sub-par - A mad bird has been croaking behind my window for a day now, and it's driving me mad too.
Everything it says sounds stupid, and the way it says it, sounds even worse. Total nonsense.
Such birds might mean no harm, but such birds often get shot simply because they annoy people..

[UnaBombaH]

SHOULD I BE SCARED THAT LOVEBIRD WAGON IS SKYROCKETING WHEN IT WOULDNT FUCKING BUDGE WORTH A DAMN D1

No because we now have confirmed masons pushing it, as well as a day1 scum lynch that should make you very obvious town

Not discrediting, just asking - how do we have confirmed masons now?

[UnaBombaH]

yea we get it okay

I'm just annoyed at all this bs-posting.

[UnaBombaH]

yea we get it okay

I'm just annoyed at all this bs-posting.

Talking about that crow btw!

[UnaBombaH]

Indeed.

[UnaBombaH]

So 2inaMil can confirm doggo as a mason then?

[UnaBombaH]

Assemble would've been a fine shot

[UnaBombaH]

So 2inaMil can confirm doggo as a mason then?

READ CARCS ISO NOOB SHE LITERALLY HARDCLAIMS MASON WITH ME AT LEAST 8 TIMES

Oi, shut it with that bs.
I read her ISO alright.
But I wasn't asking what she said - I asked whether 2unaM can confirm you.

[UnaBombaH]

I need to have at least one more solid townread, and I think this becomes a lot easier.

Trans-2iaM-Carca50-mulch already gives so much context for a reread, that I think even one more would help me immensely.

[UnaBombaH]

Agree with doggo here.
No need to speedlynch anything yet.

[UnaBombaH]

It's not hard to believe there's scum in your list.
I'm not it though, and if Trans is to be believed, 2319 apparently is an obv.town slot. (I'm not in on that one yet)
That leaves us with:
"7. Assemblerotws
8. Macabre
17. Jodaxq"

I think chasing Macabre right now is not going to be worth it, because of how they post.
So Joda or assemble today for me..

[UnaBombaH]

I like Dunk.
I do identify him as a blue bird over a bald boy though..

[UnaBombaH]

VOTE: Lovebird

I'm sheeping the masons

Not every mason knows how to read.

[UnaBombaH]

...although I gotta say that is likely a good vote.

[UnaBombaH]

UNAS TONE HASNT MADE ME GO LIKE

YAH

UNA IS BLATANT TOWN

IT FEELS KINDA FUCKING EMPTY

I've come to appreciate your toneread on me.
Just that you can't say what is AI with me.

[UnaBombaH]

You're gonna get yourself force replaced Trancsend.

I don't ask this because I'm dense, but because I believe in being 100% clear with conf. claims.

IS TRANS A MASON WITH YOU? (and A50 RIP)
Do not fake-conf. him or try to be clever with it now, because if you do, there's a risk you get killed, and that could come bite us later.

[UnaBombaH]

LilUzi would be my best bet.
If my "relentless bus" theory is true, the other one may be Rb or Frogger.
I don't think Unaboombah is scum.
Kokichi is ???, for the reasons explained above.
Assuming it's a 4-person team, the 4th one is among Assemble/Lovebird/Jodaxq. I'd place my bet on Jodaxq.

Didn't think I'd end up on the same page with you again while this game lasted.
But here we are.

I'll make my own list independent of this after I've moved my setup to my friends place later today, but I can already say that my list will likely be similar.

[UnaBombaH]

I'll do solvy things eventually, I always do.
It's just rather rare that I have any reads correct before D3..

I'm better with deduction than tonereading, and that's why I've been diving through ISOs yesterday.
I'll make my usual walls when I feel like I'm in a relaxed spot and have the time.

[UnaBombaH]

it's okay feel free to do whatev the fuck you want when i'm dead

i guarantee i'll come up with a deece lynch ause i know i'm gettin tagged tonight

Since we apparently do have a vig btw, try to come up with a decent lynch

AND a reasonable vig-pool in conjuction with how the flip turns out.

I have thoughts on who the vig actually is, and since I'm also certain mulch was their shot last night, I'd say it wouldn't hurt to help them a bit..

I'd say Trans and 2iaM could maybe both give their thoughts on the pool, because they are both conf. town, and we also know they can't be the vigs.

Thoughts?

[UnaBombaH]

(8) TwentyThreeNineteen:

Mulch

, rb,

Transcend

, UnaBombaH,

TwoInAMillion

, Jodaxq,

brassherald

, Macabre

this got to L-1 and the wagon construction is pretty nasty.

Huh, I just realized this fits with scum!rb very well too..
I've been reading the pages surrounding this wagon-situation, and have come to the conclusion that it makes almost no sense to have all town in rb/Joda/Macabre.
The only way it would, would be if 2319 were to be scum, and then I'd say we have the game almost on lock after confirming this wagons flips. (lynching 2319 -> Kokichi, right?)

One of rb, Macabre, Jodaxq anyway - I doubt brass was the only one scum on the wagon, and it would fit that his buddy was there before him (at least it makes more sense to me), so even more simple:

ONE OF

rb/Jodaxq

should flip red.
I wanna go there today. And shoot the remaining tonight if the other flips green?

Can't say where my vote is right now, and I now think we need to decide between rb/Joda for today, so.. UNVOTE:

[UnaBombaH]

That's a good idea. Are you interested in my ideas for a Vig-pool too?

I'm personally most interested in giving our Vig more food for thought.
I don't care much who gives their opinions on the "pool", but I'd say Trans and 2iaM make the most sense as "advisors" because they are conf.town by role, and at the same time can't be the vig themselves.

[UnaBombaH]

I'm coming to appreciate you more and more every game doggo.

[UnaBombaH]

GET THI MOTHER FUCKER RB IS OFF LIMITS TODAY SO YOU BETTER HAVE A DECENT SCUM CASE ON JODAXQ OTHER WISE IM NOT BUYING ANY OF YOUR FUCKING SHIT

DO YOU HEAR ME?

....it was YOUR post I was commenting on..?

I just said I agree with the idea that it was a counterwagon to brass.
This leads to two potential cases - either there's at least two scum in the wagon (brass+1), or that wagon TOO was on scum, and brass did the reasonable thing and tried to steer EITHER wagon. (no matter which)
If 2319 would've been the lynch (and is scum), it would've possibly gained him some distance.

[UnaBombaH]

Oh, obviously I have the luxury to eliminate myself from the list, and I'm not stupid enough to anti-case myself so..!

[UnaBombaH]

Like honestly - It's not any more complicated than that.
We either have scum in rb/Joda/Macabre, or we have scum in 2319/kokichi/....texcat?
(I dislike the way Kokichi is focusing on Texcat. They're not SOFTLY implying a guilty on them like an investigative would if they want to still remain hidden, yet they are not HARDCLAIMING A GUILTY. See my problem with that?)

[UnaBombaH]

I'm happy I can trust on town!Trans for once, the paranoia would ruin this game for me right now!
I'm off to do some nerdy gaming for now, will return later today.

[UnaBombaH]

If all townies are playing transparently and honest to their reads, we should be able to solve the game handily after just one reasonable lynch.
Like..the lines are pretty much drawn.

[UnaBombaH]

And who do you think the reasonable lynch is?

Good question.
I'd say almost anyone from kokichi/texcat/lovebird/Joda/2319 would make sense.

[UnaBombaH]

I know what will move this game forward, a tex lynch.

Even lynching you would move the game forward..

Kokichis posting is way different from what I saw from them in a previous game some months ago.
I also get a feeling that they remind me of someone else THIS game..like, I think their main acco might be shining through their alt this game.

One thing that IS for sure, is that they arent playing an open, transparent towngame here.
So if anything, they should finally clear their stance on other slots that Texcat, and help draw the lines more clearly before we lynch.

[UnaBombaH]

Marshy/assemble/Lovebird as the scumteam?

[UnaBombaH]

I, for one, have no trouble believing rb was on a scumslot.

[UnaBombaH]

IF we are not lynching Lovebird today, I think I want texcat or Kokichi..so for today it would be texcat. (if not Lovebird)

Also interested in seeing how Stefan will turn assembles faked guilty on Trans around..

[UnaBombaH]

Ehh, fine.
Was gonna make another "risky shot" at the rb-slot today, and then just claim vig.

Dunk, you did good, no reason for anyone to blame you!

The normal-queue seemed sorta dead before this game, so I guess I'll go on an involuntary hiatus.

See you guys around!