Realistic Mafia - Game Over

[armlx]

Wait, figured out how to do this.

[armlx]

Action sent in, probably will be processed after the restraining.

[armlx]

Action sent in, probably will be processed after the restraining.

armlx: what did you do?

Tried to talk to Sensfan away from the main group so not everyone heard (aka best of both worlds, he gets to hear what I'm afraid will happen and no one else does). Apparently, because I phrased my action with the preposition of asking him to invite you to also discuss if you wished to invalidated it as you can only ??? action direct events. I'll try again.

[armlx]

Finally got that too work. Seriously took like 6 times to send in a ???? action that was valid.

[armlx]

Also of note is if we gun down scum next, we can lynch more people before night fall.

[armlx]

I realize, but if 1 scum dies we have more breathing room to lynch.

[armlx]

Yeah, that was my point. We have 1 more lynch. If its a mislynch, we don't lynch more. If it isn't, we do lynch more.

[armlx]

Were we ever off that original plan?

[armlx]

Oh, I was just planning ahead for what happens when SL's alignment is revealed.

[armlx]

Yeah.

[armlx]

Err, was supposed to be more. I was gonna say me may want to end the day pretty fast if SL is town so nothing randomly disastrous happens.

[armlx]

Crap, thats what I was afraid of, people overhearing stuff.

I like the NL at L-2 thing. L-3 might even do the trick.

[armlx]

If SL heard the second I bet someone else heard the first. Whoever it is should come out and say that they heard this.

This conversation also makes me want to kill Sykedoc first over SL as SL openly revealed he heard what was going down.

[armlx]

Unvote, Vote Sykedoc

I'm pretty sure SL can wait. Syke has officially killed someone in a manner different from how he claimed, similar to how we caught BM day 1.

[armlx]

Unvote, Vote Sykedoc

I'm pretty sure SL can wait. Syke has officially killed someone in a manner different from how he claimed, similar to how we caught BM day 1.

I think I'm missing something. When and where did Syke kill someone?

Sidney had a seizure outside his house.... awkward.

[armlx]

Natirasha, what do you think will help more then?

[armlx]

Natashira
Surye
Sensfan

People I am leaning pro-town on based on actions/results:
Crub
GhostWriter
Nabakov
armlx

Nothing:
Singing Librarian
Sykedoc

Right now my scum short list is SL and Syke, outside shots on GW and Crub.

[armlx]

Why do you need/want that confirmed?

[armlx]

EBWODP: Last post was directed at Sensfan, not Natirasha.

[armlx]

Meh, yeah. SL, just only say yes or no though. Nothing else should be leaked.

[armlx]

Yeah, kill please.

[armlx]

Nat, is your last idea based on the other game you linked to? If so, doesn't work.

[armlx]

Is there a reason no one has shot Syke yet?

[armlx]

Nat: Already tried that earlier today, guns of the deceased are confiscated by the police department upon death.

[armlx]

We are allowing Suyre his life, right?

Obviously.

Also,

Vote End Day

Remember the math.

[armlx]

Someone hammer please.

[armlx]

I say one of Natirasha, myself, and Sensfan is the best mayoral choice.

I'm also suspecting NN + GW scum pair at this point in time, as there was only 1 kill.

[armlx]

I say one of Natirasha, myself, and Sensfan is the best mayoral choice.

I'm also suspecting NN + GW scum pair at this point in time, as there was only 1 kill.

Excuse me, but what exactly makes

you

a good candidate for mayor?

Speech, speech!

Really, it depends on whether or not the cops can feasibly/effectively be mayor + cops. If so, I will endorse either of those 2. If not, I feel, and I'm sure other do, that I have been quite actively pro-town this game. If you have alternative suggestions, I will also consider them.

[armlx]

The second is pretty much confirmed a no based on the # of kills. I also don't know about a 3 person scum group. I can see another SK or 2 person group though.

[armlx]

Natirasha, you are really paranoid. More so than is good. Please take it to about a 6 or 7 out of 10.

[armlx]

Hmm, that leaves me here.

Vote Ghostwriter

[armlx]

Hmm, actually

Unvote

,

Pseudo-vote GhostWriter

Less risky, same deal with killing people on the spot and what not.

[armlx]

We could be in LyLo,

This is what scares me. I have to do some NK analysis though.

[armlx]

Didn't notice my death, consider that my bah post.

Lols if you sent in a night action (though considering what you said about issues I doubt it).

[armlx]

Still think GW is most likely scum, but if he's not its clear SL is and then if the game isn't over its Crub. If GW is scum however, next most likely becomes NN.

[armlx]

Good point.

More electing Natirasha is needed.

Also, no real voting, only pseudo votes.

It is in our interest to multi-lynch today, BTW.

[armlx]

Cross kills NN. Though I tend to agree. I find it more likely we have a lone killer or a 2 person group.

[armlx]

Well, if we mislynch we can safely assume a 2 man scum group could 1 shot day kill at the least to win like ABR did earlier, so killing again assuming its 4-2 would be right as night would lead to another death then a day kill FTW. If there's a 1 man scum another lynch is still fine.

[armlx]

SL makes a good point. More reason for a dead GW.

[armlx]

2 things that sorta don't make sense:

1) If SL wasn't in the house at the same time, how could he have left it right after you Sensfan.

2) If GW is scum, why was he visiting NN instead of killing N1. If NN and him were partners, why were neither of them killing? If NN was scum, why didn't he just murder GW when he entered the house and dump the body?

That last question is rather interesting as it implies a 2 man scum group that isn't NN + GW. Most likely Crub + GW.

[armlx]

Considering I was found innocent by a confirmed innocent cop, I do not understand why I am on everyone's list of possible scum at this point.

Celebloki was investigated similarly. See how that turned out.

I think its Crub + GW personally.

[armlx]

Waiting on NN to confirm that you have indeed spent every night with him. If so, I endorse a Crub lynch first.

[armlx]

Ok.

Unpseudovote, Pseudovote Crub

[armlx]

Crub makes a good point, the same cop that cleared him also cleared Bloki.

[armlx]

Crub makes a good point, the same cop that cleared him also cleared Bloki.

What exactly does that mean? That means he didn't lie. However, that still doesn't change the sheer fact: our investigations are useless.

No, my point is ours in general haven't been 100% proven useless, but Awesome's have. Cop sanities and what not.

[armlx]

No, my point is ours in general haven't been 100% proven useless, but Awesome's have. Cop sanities and what not.

He fingered CyberBob night 0 correctly.

Thats interesting. That would mean for his report to be wrong either A) all cop investigations would be flawed (possible) or B) different cops find different groups (less possible).

[armlx]

SensFan did you investigate Awesome Pants and find him with me guilty?

As I recall, it was 'acting suspiciously', not 'guilty'.

Sounds similar to GW/NN.

Unpseudovote

I'm starting to get confused here.

[armlx]

Waiting on the reveal, but like I said before if he turns up town it may be in our best interest to keep killing.

[armlx]

From most to least scummy

Nat + Sens
NN
GW
Crub

[armlx]

Isn't that backwards?

Yeah, that.

[armlx]

I've got a feeling Sens is scum,

Yeah, attacking more or less confirmeds.

[armlx]

How is anyone confirmed?

Scum don't like confirmed townies.

Vote Crub

[armlx]

I am just as cleared as Crub is, which is not very. Natirasha had that innocent investigation where I "wasn't home", but I have responded by saying I was actually hiding and saw Nat. rummaging through my things.

[armlx]

So we fail at knowing when the deadline is....

[armlx]

NN + GW, please claim your actions last night.

[armlx]

NN + GW, please claim your actions last night.

I want this answer before anyone else votes.

[armlx]

Nab's story about GW checks out. I watched him from my house and saw him hiding in the bushes (non-descript bushes, but that checks out with track/watching Crub).

So that leaves Crub (waiting on GW's results),and NN (possible, but unlikely compared to crub).

[armlx]

What are you waiting on GW for, it's pretty bloody obvious that I spent the entire night dancing in the streets singing "Singin in the Rain".

I just want confirmation that it was the whole night.

[armlx]

I'm still here, but I'm waiting on information from a player with extremely limited access, which is really awkward.

[armlx]

2) We have one scum, but he was blocked. Then who's the doctor, and hasn't his testimony already come out? Highly unlikely.

There are non-doc reasons I can see this, ie going to someone's house while they are out all night.

[armlx]

I hate to say this, but mod, can we simply replace GW? His continued absence in the game, while not his fault, is currently extremely detrimental.

[armlx]

Meh, so no real results on anyone.

If I had to say someone was scum it would be NN, but I'm thinking NL may be the right choice right now (even number with mislynch = loss). The only issue is the potential for a multikill night.

[armlx]

Hmm, I like Crub's idea.

[armlx]

I can concur with that.

Groups of me + Crub, NN + GW, and Sens + Nat seem good?

[armlx]

How do I know I won't be jumped going from my house to Nat's (or him from his house to mine)?

Day action?

[armlx]

So one person from each group goes to the other person's house now (or when we decide to end day), the other people vote end day, etc.

[armlx]

Hmm, just thought of something.

No groups. If 2 scum are separated, it makes a double kill easy.

[armlx]

Crub + NN scum.

Got it.

Bet money Khev would have died if Sens was scum.

[armlx]

Why should we trust your plan? Why should Nat trust you? How did you pot luck a cop night 0 who also didn't leave his house?

This is the part that makes it obv.

[armlx]

The fact that you are not questioning these things is worrying. How can any townie at this point assume that anyone is not scum?

General set up assumptions. 50% corrupt cops is above and beyond reality.

[armlx]

EBWODP: Especially with inconclusive pro-town investigations.

[armlx]

Also are you saying that you don't find it odd at all that an innocent cop randomly picked out of 24 other people the 1 other innocent cop who didn't happen to go out night 0 to investigate by chance?

Yes.

5/25 Cops is within reality?

With 1 SK within the cops, the questionability of any "pro-town" investigation, other possible sanity issues, and no other power roles, yes.

[armlx]

Presumably 9 scum out of 25 is a 1/3 ratio, pretty high with just a couple cops that only investigate positive sometimes running around.

[armlx]

NOTE THAT HE DID NOT DIE OVERNIGHT!

Thats what I said. Crub's attempts to just spread fear about pretty much confirmed townies aren't helping his case.

[armlx]

Bet money Khev would have died if Sens was scum.

Right there Crub.

You are raising unreasonable absurd scenarios.

[armlx]

General knowledge of game balance.

[armlx]

Crub's insistence that it's a Nat/Sens scumpair is noted.

Especially while every other post is accusing me.

[armlx]

For the record, armlx, I don't consider you as confirmed.

I agree, but thats not my point. He's throwing suspicion on everyone he can is my point.

[armlx]

So, yeah. Still NLing?

[armlx]

I'd rather we wait until I get back from V/LA, personally. I want to be sure I'm here for night.

Sure. No reason to rush it. I just felt like something needed to be posted.

[armlx]

Yeah, voting NL is pretty much a waste compared to just stalling out till deadline.

[armlx]

Alright, I'm back(Your also lucky this game is rather slow).

Right now, I'm thinking either Crub, Armlx, or a Crub/armlx scumteam is the way to go.

I am actually ashamed of myself that I've let armlx slide as long as he has. I don't trust my investigations, and he really has nothing in any sense of anything to prove himself town. Heck, even Crub has the whole singing thing going on a bit. Plus, his recent posts unnerve me a bit.

Nat, do you have any objections to a NL + try to get more info at night?

[armlx]

My one concern would involve 2 deaths happening vs a 2 player scum group.

[armlx]

So..... anyone got any other thoughts/concerns/comments?

[armlx]

Ok, I'm for that Nat.

Vote End DAy

[armlx]

1 more for hammer. Someone please do it quickly as per Nat's request.

[armlx]

Lulz @ My theory of Sens and Nat both being scum "Absurd"

It was a far less likely scenario then 2 of the others being scum.

[armlx]

THANK YOU

and

CONGRATULATIONS

to

Kaleidoscope

for an

AWESOME

game.

QFT.