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I love how you blamed him for something _I_ said.kabenon007 wrote:Vote: Macavenger. No one is as bad as Albert B. Rampage
I don't think mass claiming would be good. With 4 cults + SK, the roles will be swiped up rather quickly. Yes, fewer may be recruited as cross-recruits will do whatever they do, but we lose the assets we need. Also, whatever roles exist had like one night to get results? And mass claiming would help us how?-
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Mizzy, in case you genuinely are confused(but this is more to explain to people who might be buying into what you're saying), cults are bad for town because they have an alternative win conditionand cannot win if the town wins.They also dwindle town players not through death, but by recruiting. Once a town player is recruited, they are no longer part of the town. It's like scum recruiting scum members. Only in this game, the "scum" don't kill.-
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Good stuff. We need to be lynching the recruiters, not recruitees. Granted, recruiters could just as easily be "good players." They could, however, just as easily be "bad players."armlx wrote:
I don't. Lynching good players is not a way to win, especially as lynching recruits is not the route to victory until later on.lord_hur wrote: What do you think ?
Jediknight, normally I'd agree with you, but I can see a very strong justification for the bandwagoning going on, especially based on the mechanics of this game. At this point, each "group" of scum has at most a two-person sway. Meaning, if a wagon is forming on one of their members, there is very little they can do to sway it. This potentially changes each time we go to night.
In any event, I do agree we should have some sort of basis for each wagon we form.
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I'll look into Armlx. Game's moving a bit fast.-
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Vote : Muerrto
I just read your posts in isolation and it looks like there was a little bit of Muerrto mixed in with the "you guys." Not to mention, after many folks were lynched you'd be one of the first to shout, "Next??" So why are you trying to shift the blame off of yourself?Muerrto wrote:You guys are completely random and so far completely wrong.-
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Muerrto, that little guy was something I snagged from someone on another forum many years back. I added the explosion when some folks complained that it was boring in its previous form.
No. I mainly meant toning down the insane rate of posting, but I guess that can't be preventing with a two week deadline. Not only losing up to 4 per night but up to 6 per day. Yeah. Holy war indeed.Lowell wrote:I'm kinda insulted no one wants me on their team. Also, that anyone would suggest toning down the killing.
That being said...
Lowell wrote:You folks are thinking way too much about the setup. Let's just kill people already.Vote : Lowell
Yes. Let's just kill people and not worry about who.
DrippingGoofball wrote:Any reason why armlx isn't being lynched?
While I haven't looked TOO deeply into armlx yet(working on that next), I do not see what ignited this armlx Jihad other than... well... you... Please do enlighten me, oh goofball of eternal madness.DrippingGoofball wrote:
Nah, you're guilty unless found innocent, that's all.armlx wrote:
Any reason you think I should be?DrippingGoofball wrote:Any reason why armlx isn't being lynched?-
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I back Macavenger's request, because I think I know where this is going. But primarily for Lowell and less for Elvis Knits, though I will not protest her doing so as well. Elvis - they're asking you to claim whether or not you're cult recruitable. Off the top of my head I can't recall if you've done so.
Why Lowell - The way he claimed stunk. Back peddling then forgetting his N0 target? Looks the tap dancing of scum to me.
Well, it's a "Density Cop" because of the elements they target. "Serial Killer" and "Inventory" maintain their traditional role names. I don't find Roleblocker too hard to believe.Dead Rikimaru wrote:In a game of Suicidal Dayvigs, Density Cops and Prison Wardens a simple "roleblocker" sounds out of place, doesn't it?-
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That actually made me laugh.Macavenger wrote:Kison, this isn't a good question. We have no proof he was recruited N0, it could have happened N1.
Here's a question, though. We know Adel was a cop. Let's theoretically say for a moment that Adel investigated Mneme. Two possibilities : guilty, innocent. If Adel got an innocent, do you think she would have placed her vote on Mneme like she did?
I'm not trying to sidetrack this current discussion. This is merely a temporary tangent.-
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"Once upon a time," Kison began reading, "there was amagicalbear named Pooky. He would embark on a long, enduring journey to uproot the cult scum and his highschool friend, Wayne, who had been causing a lot of trouble in his home village. His adventure began wayyyyy back in April, 2008..."
PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:unvote
vote DoS
He used "IMO"
thus obv scum
GG no REPookyTheMagicalBear wrote:unvote
vote Armlx
If I saw you in heaven...PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:unvote
vote Xtoxm
Momentum play
"The End."PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:I am back
who r we lynching
k thx
Vote : PookyTheMagicalBearOfLazyBandwagoning
Ok, Einstein, either give us some real juice. Who "r" the scum? "Y"?-
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I realize there is a Mneme wagon. However, I do not think he is a good lynch prospect right now, at all. Please get the frak off his wagon. Thanks!
Muerrto, I have voted since Jedi. I believe my vote was on Pooky before I swapped right here. Not sure who it was on before that. However, like I said before, this game is moving insanely quickly. Less novel posts, please.
Like I said, Cavebear > Mneme. Please get off him.-
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The way I'm defending him? And what's that supposed to mean? You do realize the guy is at L-2 with the torches growing ever brighter. If I'm falsely defending him then I'm really setting myself up for a fall, which would be the case if I am culted with him. However, don't misconstrue what I said to have any assumed level of certainty. I'm not sure of anything. I do not know that Mneme is not a cult member, but I do know he's not a good prospect at the moment. Do with that what you will.-
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Muerrto wrote:BUT if they're Mason's Kison could've grabbed Mneme and that'd make him vanilla but not. And on second thought, Masons in a cult game would make sense, so the town can team up too against the 4 cults.Kison wrote:However, don't misconstrue what I said to have any assumed level of certainty. I'm not sure of anything. I do not know that Mneme is not a cult member, but I do know he's not a good prospect at the moment.-
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Holy scumbag batman, yes it does matter. What makes it matter? The case you have against Mneme over Kison. You base order on scuminess. I'm asking what makes Mneme scummy to you. Bad, Macavenger, bad!Macavenger wrote:Mneme over Kison because the mneme wagon is already in place. Kison is scheduled to die later today, does it really matter which order we do kills in the same day on? :p
Would you have preferred I wait until 3 days from now to show up? Like I said, my posting has been scarce the past two days. Ignore that if you wish.Muerrto wrote:I'd prefer you both because you lurked then showed up when called out.
How the frak would me not claiming make me not responsible? Answer that.Muerrto wrote:You're defending someone but not claiming so you can't be held responsible if you're wrong, and you won't explain why he's less likely to be scum.
Here comes the claim, though.
I'm a Watcher. I watch people. Ladies, make sure you close your curtains when changing, because Kisonmightbe watchingyou.
I do not have a special name. I am standard Watcher. My response to Dead Rikimaru a few days ago...
...was influenced, in part, by the fact that I have a standardized role name.Kison wrote:
Well, it's a "Density Cop" because of the elements they target. "Serial Killer" and "Inventory" maintain their traditional role names. I don't find Roleblocker too hard to believe.Dead Rikimaru wrote:In a game of Suicidal Dayvigs, Density Cops and Prison Wardens a simple "roleblocker" sounds out of place, doesn't it?
~~N0~~
Target : Mneme
Visitors : Adel
~~N1~~
Target : Mneme
Visitors : None
The past two nights I've seen one person visit Mneme. That person was Adel. This is why I asked the question about Adel and the significance of her Day One vote on Mneme. I was struggling with whether or not I should go for Mneme Day One based on that vote, but I came to the same conclusion as whoever responded to me : that her lack of following up suggested she did not receive a guilty result. This would indicate Mneme is not two of four recruiters. Since I also have not seen anyone else visit him over the past two days, this suggests he has not been recruited.
So why am I uncertain? Because he could still be one of the other two recruiters. The only thing I know for a fact is that Mneme is not a recruit. Since Macavenger brilliantly indicated he has little good reason to be voting Mneme, my lack of willingness to vote Mneme over Cavebear is further justified in my own mind. You folks have to choose whether or not to believe me. You then have to decide if your case on Mneme(which I still would gladly like to hear a recap of, as like I said he could very well be scum) is damning enough to lynch him.
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It's what we call thePooky The Magical Teddy Bear Of Insanity wrote:we know she voted him early day one with no reasoning attached.random voting stage.
This won't test anything. I can 100% guarantee you that any role claim in the future will lack Mneme as their target for Night One or Night Two unless that person is scum or ABR. This is a semi large risk for me to take. I also guarantee that Mneme is either a cult recruiter or whatever he claimed to be(Vanilla?). So if he comes up recruiter, my claim will not be disqualified, but it may throw a spin on whether or not you believe it.Macavenger wrote:Unvote; Vote: mneme
I can possibly buy into this guilty theory. We might also be able to semi-test Kison's claim, depending on what mneme comes up.
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DGB, where have you disappeared to?
Question : Has anyone seen Adel as a Cop or some other variant before? If so, I would appreciate it if you'd tell me what game. I sorted through a bunch of her games and haven't found anything yet.-
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Well, looks like I was way off on the Adel thing. Sorry about that. But Mneme is gone, so...
Muerrto - I may be a confirmed Watcher, but I am not confirmed Town by any means. Remember that I have not made clear whether or not I am recruitable. A confirmed role could easily wind up being the Town's worst nightmare in the future. This is something you should not forget.
Mizzy - It was only minor, as with many things in this game. It had to do with her confusion over the cult PM's when they are clearly written on the first page. I don't think it's very lynch worthy. I probably overreacted by voting her.
Pooky - I did not like him because of his complete lack of contribution this game(until more recently). Much preferable to Mizzy.-
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Who was your TARGET? Roleblocking does not prevent you from submitting a name. If you've already answered that then I apologize but I do not recall you ever having done so.DrippingGoofball wrote:
READ THE GAMEKison wrote:Christ, DGB. First of all, why the hell would you do that as Town? Second of all, who's your 2nd investigation?
I was roleblocked by Macavenger on the first night.
In any event, I agree, she's the less likely of the two.
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I kindfully request the results of our blockers.
I was not roleblocked. I have a result. My results may or may not have contained Macavenger or Elvis Knits. However, if they did, I also have (an)other result(s). Basically what I am saying is that I am not asking who they targeted in order to use their answer as my watcher results. I promise I have a result other than OR in addition to them.
There is a reason for my asking this. If this is very strongly opposed then I'll have to go first, but like I said, there's a reason.-
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Thank you. This is what I wanted to hear.elvis_knits wrote:I RBed Farside.
I watched DrippingGoofball last night. The only person I saw come/go was Farside. My goal, obviously, was to see who would try to kill DGB, since she's an cop who hasn't been counter claimed, and unrecruitable(page 1 role PM). Her remaining alive is what threw me off, and that's why I wanted to see who the two blockers had targeted. So my guess is that Farside is a lingering Ice recruit who tried to finish DGB off.
Meaning, FS might not be a good lynch for today. We should try to get those last two recruiters. Elvis can block Farside again to (hopefully) keep DGB alive.
Since it seems fairly clear that Elvis is a roleblocker, I don't see her as a good recruiter candidate. She could still, however, be scum recruited into a cult.
~~Non Recruiters~~
1. DrippingGoofBall
2. Kison
3. Elvis Knits
4. Farside22
5. Macavenger
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1. Erg0
2. Armlx
3. PookythemagicalBear
4. Muerrto
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Erg0, Armlx, PookythemagicalBear, Farside22
Yeah, guess I'm inclined to agree with this move.Vote : Farside22
Keep this in mind :
Armlx : Farside targeted DGB and no kill occurred. Elvis claims to have blocked. Not 100% confirmed, but it makes her far less likely. I don't think her past blocks have confirmed her. I could be wrong.DGB wrote:I investigated armlx and found him of normal temperature.-
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*sounds the alarms*
Elvis Knits wrote:I can only block cult recruiters from recruiting.(I can also block town power roles if I choose incorrectly, or could have blocked wayne were he still alive). But the only really good thing I can do for the town is block a cult recruiter. There's only four of them in the entire game.-
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What you guys are suggesting is laughable. It would have been much smarter for me, as a recruit without my ability, to have claimed I had no result. Claiming I saw Farside hit DGB is a huge risk if she countered my results and wound up flipping Town of some sort. And you can't claim I didn't try to give her the opportunity - I wanted her to claim and decided waiting wasn't a good idea.
Elvis : Please confirm the limitations of your roleblocking.
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I agree, Muerrto, and this makes their claim powerful because if we nail the Wind recruiter, we have them both confirmed. But this only reinforces the move to kill the recruiter even further, because not only would that fully confirm them, it would prevent them from being recruited(as they implied that they are).
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