My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic Mafia (Game Over)

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I also would want nothing more than to wagon Penguin Power
VOTE: Bins

pedit let me post
pedit2 let me post

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friendship doesnt exist either

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friendship doesnt exist either

Only for you

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any thoughts on zor or pp Jay?

you didnt ask me but these are my two townreads atm

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ugh now you wanna know why? Fine i take it back

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i actually do take it back-- when you asked me the reason was a pretty minor meta thing in Three in one, which i looked at again so i could explain, and it turned out to be pretty dumb and possibly playerlist dependent.

Reason for zor is just as weak but still stands, is just bc i dont think thats an argument that scum would be likely to fabricate (in my experience more vague "scumslippy" type arguments almost always come from the perspective of town).

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i dont think zors argument makes sense if were interpreting it as calling out a scumslip but i do agree with it on some more deep psychological level

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i'm out tonight so ill make better posts in a while

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EP...don't meta me based on 3-in-1. I mean, that was one game (yet 3 in 1) that most likely didn't show how I actually play at all given reasons.

i also think that your behavior is likely affected by the nature of the playerlist (that was my reason for taking it back) because you're playing with a bunch of people you know and are friendly with in this game

tfw u 100% agree with EP but still dont townread him

is this




psychological damage??

is it because im ugly
also, whats your read on baezu

this entire zor/worst discussion is incredibly, incredibly silly. You should all be ashamed of yourselves. All of you.

how serious are you being right now

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UNVOTE:
I dont agree with any of your takes but i think youre being pretty town !!!!

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originally i asked bc beezoo was scumreading you and i was going to ask her to jpin me on voting you but i no longer am very interested in any such wagon

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how serious are you being right now

https://www.youtube.com/embed/1pgLaV0o0AE?start=5&end=9

are you afraid of me implosion

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I can see where you're coming from on town is more likely to call out 'scumslips' (at least I agree to an extent early game) but I dislike the way zor keeps pushing this. Meta is gross and you should know better Ep

wait for real? have you always hated meta? or have you sold out to Big Tripod ever since becoming a green?

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What made you not interested in the wagon anymore? Mostly asking because that wagon doesn’t seem so bad to me.

i was talking about a hypothetical bins wagon but then bins started being more town to me

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VOTE: T-Bone
I think this is a genuinely good place to start a wagon? thoughts?

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I thought everypony voting on the Baezu wagon would be interested in a post like that and use it to decide if they want to keep their vote there or think she’s Town. With this many players I thought the first serious post by the wagoned player would have gotten more attention than it did. I haven’t seen anypony really trying to sort Baezu or if they are they’re not showing it.

i actually think that this could be a really scummy post asdfjas
regardless of baezeus's alignment

VOTE: T-Bone this is ok
team EP ride or die

Beazu can be town, Alch I feel like I want to townread as well but it's weaker

UNVOTE:
worst what do you think about bins saying that t-bone's tone in every game is kinda scummy + how serious is your vote?
also bins why do you say you "could vote t-bone" after telling me that my vote might not necessarily have been that good bc of your experience with him

everyone tell me why they won't vote elsa and who is scum on the wagon if they're town

might join on for funsies but i'm mainly focusing on getting more of a sense of people i know better and have more knowledge/experience to work with. like ive literally glossed over most of her posts

like for example im trying to sort worst (who im pretty unsure of atm but i feel like i have a very intimate sense of his scum-mindset, although maybe not as good of a sense of his town game) and implosion (who i feel might obvtown or obvscum himself eventually and i'm leaning towards ONE of the options at the minute (spicy))

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i actually think that this could be a really scummy post asdfjas
regardless of baezeus's alignment

also on a related note to this, i think that boise's big readlist post as her wagon response is like her one scummy post (and also her only scummy post). thats my hot take

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@ bins
i really have no idea what to say about your paranoia posts re: me and it FEELS like i should be saying nothing. but it just feels really weird for me to let them go unaddressed
i've actually thought a lot about it, and its actually jarring whenever people sort of see me as a smart and deceptive player because i have usually seen myself as fairly unremarkable. Like i've been historically good as scum i GUESS but, i dont know, i just have no idea how to approach this kind of paranoia because i've never really gotten it before

but uh i guess keep doing what youre doing and i'll keep doing what im doing and i feel like it'll play out productively bc youre the person who i feel like i have the best sense of this game and connected with the most ugh SORRY

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not much
i would say that presidents gave me a grasp on your playstyle because i was so aware of you as a scumpartner in that game
and also picking up on your strengths, where you're comfortable being as a scum player
i considered voting you when you joined me on voting t-bone but god dammit i like you too much

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where would you consider me being comfortable as a scum player?

& which part of the T-Bone vote made you wanna vote me there? (I have a hunch but curious to see if you're a step ahead of me)

one thing is that i think you like sinking into strongly held convictions. you like upholding and defending those convictions instead of constantly having to fake a reevaluation. i think your "fake" reads as scum might potentially stick a little stronger than your real reads as town. I thought that maybe that might be a byproduct of our particular strategy in that game though.

the t-bone vote gave me a weird gut feeling, i dont really have anything to articulate honestly. i think that was part of why i didnt end up voting you

lastly:

meta is

good thing

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338 is, against all odds, a pretty towny post i think

at the very least I kind of want to say I don't think zor/reck is s/s which is kind of helping me contextually because I don't have a very strong read on either of them

This feels really weird of an entire point to make.

i felt similarly

zoraster
Baezu
GuyinFreezer
implosion
Elsa Jay
Alchemist21

i agree with the bottom four names especially re: freeze guy who i think has not been as town as reads on him seem to reflect

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What did you like about that particular post?

swayed, perhaps foolishly, by his diction

i agree with the bottom four names especially re: freeze guy who i think has not been as town as reads on him seem to reflect

I don't understand this.
My weekend prod dodge was town as f.

okay fair enough guyinfieri

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What did you like about that particular post?

swayed, perhaps foolishly, by his diction

Say more words

I think its uncharacteristic of scum to take the attitude that he does towards posts in response to a push/line of inquiry (in this case hes responding to tbone)

You worded roughly what's on my mind

I don't think I have anywhere super productive to go with this conversation sorry.

I would have felt remiss not saying anything.

feel like this would **usually** come from town

I mean did you just literally quoted my meme post and attempted to discredit it

i think that gifs attitude around his big meme post, after getting a lukewarm response, has been pretty uncomfortable?
still dont really think hes town. but your posts are funny keep it up gif : ,)

Real talk though

WowI'm all caught up and feel like I've solved nothing but making everyone a sr.
Guess I'll just vote hop until I get a lynch done eh? Keep my options open B)

Why are we tolerating this

glossed past this maria post first time around but i could swear she's made like a super similar post in another game, i wish i remember what game !!! i'll try to look

based on this post i'm thinking that alch is now town
VOTE: GUY in FREEZER
i promise at some point i'll stop poking at my own vanity wagons

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i tried to make my own skittle tier list for fun and realized i'm conflicted on so many of them that it would basically be impossible to sort them

i think that implosion has been townposting but i'm highkey paranoid about him and i also feel like he's been ignoring me while also just plopping me down as a strong (?) town read
i'm also torn on musk stick but we've went over that
i think that reck's d1 MO, at least in large themes, has usually been quickly grab onto a d1 wagon and latch onto it and actually in my experience he's been town (and also right). that's not actually informing my read so hold on to your hats, meta h8rs

The discussion was on meta theory. How is that in any way alignment indicative?

????? it wasn't like an MD thread
bone was accusing worst of making bad posts and manipulating me

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but now that you're making me think about it more -- even though i wasn't really thinking of that post from a meta perspective, i do think that worst's particular response in that post could be like, him being scum and having just heard from me about what i think about his confrontational and stubborn scumplay and consciously subverting that so wow maybe meta is trash

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zito: i think your read on worst is bad (sic)
ep: Well you see my good man i dont think that the worst reacted to t-bones suspicion in the way that scum would normally react and i thought that post was pretty tonally town re: feeling like he had to reach out to me regarding the meta point and yadda yadda taxicab smell you later
zito:

T-Bone: I think you (the worst) are manipulating meta to influence EP (sic)
the worst: Well you see my good man meta by definition is exclusively manipulative,

inasmuch how the speaker and observer have two differing but rational perspectives

governing both the use and interpretation thereof, which in turn means that any discussion on the topic is likely to be highly unproductive

something something something Bel-Air

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Ep: Holy fuck that's so town tho
PZ: ????

me: ????

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based on this post i'm thinking that alch is now town

which

Oh that was supposed to say page but waeaah cant people just take my reads at face value im lazy and its not like my reads are ever particularly good lmao!!!!!!!!!!!

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The long answer is Nah.

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that requires reading your posts which requires energy which requires me to not be in class rn
Shitposting on the other hand comes from a primal and instinctual place within me

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do you think you oughtn't be strongly townread?

oh fuck uh uh uh i take it back just keep townreading me

I stopped pursuing because I decided that it was just reck being silly.

I guess??? this also seems like a weird thing to say

this is v town imo

zito is being good and rational and logical but i dont understand why people (you & the worst) are calling his posts town-- could you explain

I’m not really worried about T-bone right now. He hasn’t made any waves but I’m pretty confident that I’ll be able to have a solid read on him the more he posts. The last time I played with him we basically had a hard tr on each other for the whole game and we were both town. What posts make you want to vote him?

i dont remember and i dont think its very important to me anymore
i just think he had a mediocre ISO or something shrug

Has the worst scum game turned god tier while I was away? Because last time I played with scum him his scumgame was laughably bad.

i think he's alright : )

does this still hold EP how ya feelin

neither of them really hold weight to me but that is not to say that they've done something scummy, it's that none of their posts recently have stood out to me + there are a lot of people currently in this game and sometimes vague reads have to be emotionally discarded because i'm stupid and my brain can only hold three things at a time

so i guess i cant really say anything about either of them except zor sure is making it hard to read this game in public!
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now that i'm reading implosion's point about zor, yeah i mean that kind of makes sense

oh-- also implosion is town i'm fairly sure ASDFJSDJF i'm going to end this catchup post here for readability's sake (continuing on page 27 in the next post)
okay pedit: what the fuck is going on rn?

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I don’t fucking care anymore

very unexpected tonal shift from early game baezu idk what to make of that (i'm guessing thta baezu is genuinely frustrated but that comes from any alignment anyway)

Zor- don’t know his town game but I don’t feel he’s been very helpful so far this game so he can be scum

moderate to big red flag bc sleepykrew has also, by her words, not been very helpful, and he gets a null. zor gets the SR because hes the counterwagon. you heard it here first folks
but then she votes Gif so eh idk maybe not

The AtE seems fake. : (

cold take bins

baezu's ate doesn't specifically look fake imo but it's not really townish.

Baezu, why are you saying you're guaranteed to be the lynch tomorrow if you live through the night? Isn't that just inviting scum to not kill you tonight for a free mislynch tomorrow?

massively hot takes.
feeling even better about implosion town

Meta is trash!

'meta is trash' posting is trash
(''meta is trash' posting is trash' posting is trash, i am trash, etc)

the mod LITERALLY said on the OP that flavor names were applied separate from setup design, flavor has no impact on setup AT ALL

heres the thing: elsa alluded it to being some sort of reaction test?
but i dont know... looking back on it it still seemed kind of weird and clumsily handled and all too selfaware

meta is trash, vote me you coward

this might actually lowkey be scummy but i think reck is still a slightly town read in my books

i'll split this post here
AHHH SO MANY POSTS

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two shot doctor is a very specific thing to claim and also don't know why baezu-scum would come back and put the modifier on it after the fact and also lines up with how i know UT likes to design games bc ive designed a shitload with him and x-shots are in like every game

idk seems like a big coincidental lucky swing for scum to make in the claim dept

hm, i think this is pretty convincing. definitely not in the mood to see the wagon to its end. that being said i dont think it's actually particularly lucky

How about I was just shocked at the reaction? I was sitting on the bus like BIG YIKES and felt like it didn't seem warranted at all. Not only did no one claim intent, but Baezu just suddenly went from "Hey pals" to "FUCKYOUFUCKYOUFUCKYOU."

bins picking up on the exact same thing as me as usual
but: i do think that baezu was legitimately frustrated because of the reactions post-claim (perhaps she expected everyone to sort of mass unvote after her doctor claim but instead she got zito registering his disbelief)

okay pedit: what the fuck is going on rn?

refer to post 830 for a comprehensive summary

vigs on this man right here

zito is coming at this in a similar way to how i am coming at this and it comes thru in his tone

i mean maybe it's easy to fake that "lol idk what's going on halp" tone but knowing zito's personality it seems to ring true for me and that's enough for DAY ONE until we have more to go on to build something more concrete

ok that's fair
i feel like ive been generally unable to follow where zito is trying to get at with his posting this game
BUT: it does warrant saying that i also feel this way about zito's posting in general sometimes

heres the thing: elsa alluded it to being some sort of reaction test?

Oh did she?

someone went like "hey flavor was randomized" and elsa was like "SSH don't spoil it!!"
it was super weird

Rainbow doesn't seem like a doctor. And she doesn't have the LOYAL Modifier as the Element of Loyalty? Fake news.

Q: Is this game breakable by flavor?
A: No. Flavor and abilities were randomized.

I was kinda hoping you wouldn't notice that,

buddy.

haven't read everything yet, but for now

VOTE: SleepyKrew

holy shit
this man
is trolling us

also my reads are all over the place, too much is happening right now for me to parse

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someone tel me who to vote

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VOTE: the worst

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alch and worst are definitely both people of interest -- certain things of both of theirs in my working memory that made me suspicious as well as certain towny things

im voting worst because i think he's more of a presence in this game + i have more working knowledge of him. i think his voting patterns are weird in a way that i havent been able to sort yet. i've engaged with him a lot but still dont think he's contributed anything particularly unique or memorable. i also thought that a naked vanity vote on worst would make more of a splash on the consciousness of the general public which i wanted to do now that the scope of discussion has been blown back open by baezu claim

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Gonna be honest, I instinctively lied to cover my ass and didn't want to admit I didn't read that part. I just go into the game and assume the basic rules the Mod posts are there, none too specific.

ballsy post if scum

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Gonna be honest, I instinctively lied to cover my ass and didn't want to admit I didn't read that part. I just go into the game and assume the basic rules the Mod posts are there, none too specific.

ballsy post if scum

i actually take this back. multiple people called him out on it and maybe it's just sensible to backtrack as either alignment

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My little pony: Hypocrisy is Bountiful

ah yes the name of the scum pt.
dont @ me zor

i'm kind of tempted to vote tw but i feel beholden to my Alchemist shareholders now.

worst is voting alchemist, so by the transitive property....

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Hey, sorry I've been super slammed this week. I'll try to be around over the weekend.
The first thing I want to do is go over Maria's posts and other people talking about implosion. I think he's comfortably town and would he incredibly ashamed if I'm wrong

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zor, talk to me about implosion? your graph for a split second convinced me (in hindsight it's not a particularly good argument)
but-- it merits saying that i am finding the "worst + implosion" scumteam theory quite attractive, even if it's far too early on to argue something like that

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im townreading bins a little less but i think that certain posts that i disliked make sense for indecisive town so eh

i like zito / zor / reck as an skittles town core actually? i think it should also be mentioned that i stopped thinking about this game almost entirely for several days-- before that i think i was much more happy with implosion and bins and wary of zito and reck
now reading it's basically swapped and i think the only thing that happened was the passage of time so
shrug

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im townreading bins a little less but i think that certain posts that i disliked make sense for indecisive town so eh

actually i'm also criminally indecisive so thats hypocritical of me to say
idk i just didnt like bins being all like "oh im townreading everyone what am i to do" (read: in a posh british accent)

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i'm also doing that thing where i feel too afraid to commit to a higher stakes wagon so i temper my reads on the wagon targets a bit and latch on to some random vanity wagon that convinces me more which is bad and more often than not i'm wrong!

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get off your vanity wagon

ugh after i *just* said that i wanted to sit on my vanity wagon like a coward

I really feel like one of the Maria/implo wagons is gonna give us scum. I'm more confident on implo right now but I keep waffling in my head back and forth.

VOTE: implosion
here
i think my original read was based on a seriously overconfident estimation of my ability to read implosion based solely on tone
he's stagnating hard + weird and bad votes on the maria wagon + total lack of paranoia in general (see 1209)
i'm curious to see where this goes for sure, but if i had to guess i still think this would flip town

like even if zor proves himself, actually, does that do anything for us? could just as easily be scum fruit vendor. i assume scum can't both kill & action since that would defeat the entire purpose of a fruit vendor?

i mean i feel like two things are always granted
1) fruit vendor claims are always real
2) fruit vendor claims don't tell us anything about alignment in most situations

i really think we can ignore it, at least for now?

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UNVOTE:
i dont feel ready yet =^=
tomorrow i will read maria's iso: but out of the three wagons, i would rather lynch in maria/implosion

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VOTE: implosion
big shrug
l2

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hmmmm
i would much rather be voting worst rn

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Really dont see why my vote on you is bad?

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i would like implosion to at least explain his various beliefs before hammer

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Why do you think worst is scum, imp

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i think ive been pretty clear about what i think

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on the contrary i think it is perfectly normal

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EP, can you answer this question again for me?

if you tell me why its important i could be convinced to read back and try to remember what i was thinking and doing at that point!

i go to sip some tea and finish my thesis and i am 3 pages behind

sip the tea sis
finish the the sis

i mean. alright. that's odd to me. i guess i could dig it. seems like a swing to be like "oh no im about to get lynched and need to save my ass, I'll claim VT and hope people fall for the bait instead of immediately hammering me"

i'm just marking this post as relevant to talk about at some point

I'm also not scum i pinkie promise

sorry
worst can you help me with all of my reads

Honestly i feel like town you shouldn't have enough paranoia of me this game to vote me, either. I feel like historically the way this has gone when we're both town (face to face or on forum) is that you have a baseline Level of Paranoia of me that you ultimately just always ignore.

ughhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

voice in my head keeps saying EP is scum but im gonna suppress it

you say this like once a day

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worst you are too good for this world
here i was feeling ashamed for yelling on my soapbox about how you were actually scum
and you're here hitting me with the
i dont want to think right now but tomorrow! lets chat

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ughhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

i know, right

its a bad argument
its a horrible argument
and yet

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VOTE: maria
Im pretty lost
Soneone talk to me?

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hi captain bluster, long time listener, first time caller
i have like 4 reads, can i sheep you on the rest

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I'm the same re not trusting my reads at all

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sounds good

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really the only thing you need to know tbh

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i think the last large game i played was like team mafia or fortnight?
I dont know how people do it? There are so many moving parts and posts to parse, like i have a bunch of reads that are just so unstable because i just cant piece my reads on individual posts together. I keep flipping on people like tbone and implosion. I was reconsidering bins but im back to her as town. Same with zor. Zito and reck are town? I really dont know on baezu or maria. I dont know anything.

This is why i lurk

My solid four reads was a setup to a joke, like me being
"Zito is town
Worst is town
Penguin is town
Implosion is frustrating"

or something like that. Lol

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I think zor's general stubbornness (both in action and tone) in the face of near constant pressure is significant
In that i think thats likely to come from town
But also he seems like the type to do that as scum
And his personality usually makes him come across more formally in discussion setting which could contribute to that

You see, all my takes are like this always

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im not comfy calling alch town
and also i suppose i disagree with you on ep

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i dont have a confident read on alch but i def dont think hes particularly town
I also think implosion is trying to pocket me (i genuinely do not know if i am using that word right)

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@ep I don't townread your posts the last few pages at all but implo's towncase on you is slightly convincing

how do you feel about that?

Sad i guess?

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i know it's late but wowee ep's posts are garbo

me: my takes are bad
worst: what are your takes
me: *posts takes*
reck: wow that's bad

zito ngl i'm loving this new format.

Then why aren’t you? At that point you had plenty of time to start a wagon.

Wat. Have you talked about me at all EP? Cause I don't remember it

heres what happened to the best of my recollection, for everyone.

my reads v1

Town: zor
Conflicted: implosion
Null: maria
Scum: worst

I was voting worst. then I was told to stop being a coward and get onto a wagon. so i got onto implosion.

my reads v2

My reads v2
Conftown: worst
Conflicted-ish town: zor, implosion
null: maria

that's the reason for the switch.

Is the game as simple as Zito/Bins/Implo? Prob not considering how Implo/Bins interactions play around each other, but I still think the way they've lead up to this is really telling. So I'm gonna stick to it. If you're townreading these slots you should tell me why. Or just join the wagon on me that works too Kappa

not that this is necessarily directed at me but:

zito has been consistently intentional in his postmaking
he's self-confident and pushes lines of thought in a way that definitely makes me think town

bins has basically been echoing my thoughts all game and expresses paranoia (of multiple people) that is super consistent with an indecisive town

implosion is..... i don't know -- his line about how i'm always paranoid of him and then discard it made me sort of reconsider the reasons i was scumreading him, that line seemed really brazen to come from scumplosion to me and my original instincts are still there in my mind

but yeah anyway this is just patently ridiculous as a scum team theory and i guess i'm happier about voting you -- but also wondering how this kind of excessive wagon reaction fits into your meta

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Find out next time on- My little Murderer:Teamwork is fickle.

something something scum topic thread name

can I at least get some sort of agreement to Lynch one of the many many people who we've managed to out day 1 rather than try to find some weird last minute other Lynch? That can even be me if you so desire but don't keep doing this.

this seems really... shoehorned in tbh?

friendly reminder maria hasn't made a single town post all game but yeah let's just lynch here

why not lynch maria then?

VOTE: zito

holy shit

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does just flipping Maria have the support? I'm down but I kinda half asleeply thought people were losing interest now she's posting

i feel like people are gaining interest

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that claim is pretty believable
And like, scum tracker backup? idk

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I think the only way you'll listen to me at this point ducky is flipping me so I really can care less at this moment and time.
I'm pretty sure the tracker I can backup is scum btw because of the wording being 'any tracker' that dies. Mostly when you're a back up it relates to roles of your own alignment but unless the tracker is gated (unlikely considering idk how that'd work with a backup) I think it's prob just a full scum tracker. Thoughts?

is this not believable?????

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really wish reck were here

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Like i can understand the value of having a scum backup tracker
Which is why i wanted recks opinion as someone who knows ut's design philosophy

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Im still happy with wagoning maria
Fwiw

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VOTE: mariar

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why cant you let me have my joke hammer

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wow.
i had... no conception of where the hell the votes were.

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what if i sheeped you bins
you'd have TWO people to decide for

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fyi i think implosions play really fits with him being vt and also him liking vt (at least iirc)

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i'll vote zor if we need a lynch but i dont want to vote implosions

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i am getting my wisdom teeth out tomorrow friends
so my activity will be less presumably

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VOTE: Maria

i am getting my wisdom teeth out tomorrow friends
so my activity will be less presumably

Pls take one of those hilarious videos where you think you are Rhianna tia

I already think im rihanna

+ based on elsa's posts after claim i think thats legit

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VOTE: maria

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you know what they say -- if it wasnt funny once, try it again.

but lets actually just end the day lol

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VOTE: maria

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Hey everyone. I'm sorry that I replaced out -- there was like a four-week phase of my life where I was dealing with finals, followed by a visit to LA, a short stay with family, and then travelling to Boston. I really should have realized that would have interfered with this game in the first place.

Many thanks to Glork though! I was checking sporadically in later stages of the game and it seemed like you were playing super well! It did kind of seem like you were like "ugh I have to replace into *THIS* slot?" and I am sorry for that too lol.