Dynamite Stick Mafia! GAME OVER

[skitzer]

I'm sorry I didn't get to see any of Day 1, but I definitely agree with the don't-strike-a-light unless you need to post. Also, the vote system can be utilized very well in this game.

That said, the people who struck a light early in the day's start, both on Day 1 and 2, could prove to be useful information. Stupid scum might not strike a light to avoid being daykilled, but smart scum would strike a light without planning to do anything with it.

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Greater than 66% sounds good. 2/3 is more of a concrete decision than 51/100.

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OK, I'm here, but It's hard not to "lurk" when the days last no longer than a few days.

Yos2's heaviness on lurkers on day1 is not good, because most people didn't have a chance to post. Also, his 3 scum slip is another factor, so tomorrow I will vote yosarian2, but seeing as we have a lynch already....blah.

[skitzer]

I'm kind of sad that I'm being called out as a lurker, I mean to post, but because the nights last longer than the days it's kind of hard to find a interval in which I can post. Some people don't watch the site 24/7.

I would like to note this point from Surye.

CES scares me mostly because I see him as the next irrational player that will blow up someone at the drop of a hat, but I'm not convinced he's scum at this point. Scum has no incentive to blow them selves up, and CES seems pretty convincing he'd take someone out when he feels justified (even if town doesn't..).

this is how I interpreted it.

"CES scares me because he could blow me up, which would be bad for me because I'm scum, but I know he's not scum. Scum have no incentive to blow themselves up, and CES seems like a townie who could take me, scum, out when he feels justified (and even if town doesn't see this)[multitude of periods]

Maybe if you read through it again, you'll see what I'm getting at.

Vote: Surye

[skitzer]

Still, you shouldn't be scared of them, IMO.

[skitzer]

Frankly, with my current case on Surye on all, I'd happily take him out for you, because at least a scum would go down with me.

Nabakov: yes, no one wants to die, but good townies should be willing to take lives for the town. You get more information that way.

[skitzer]

Ah, Surye, but notice how I didn't strike a light.

I just don't think a town member would be scared of dying. Which was proved in the quote on you I made on the last page.

[skitzer]

OK, whatever, but I'lls be watchins you.

The way it seemed in that post was that you were afraid a rash townie would come after you.

[skitzer]

that is true. I guess I overreacted on Surye's post.

[skitzer]

Dropping the rolleyes point. I read several games with Yos, and what he said was true.

You know, there's something deeply amusing about the idea of you reading through several of my games, counting the the frequency of how often I use a certain emotacon in order to attempt to get an emotocon-meta read of my emotocon usage as scum vs town.

The above statement is funny and keffed at the same time.

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Pinsir Pre-Evo. Incorporates parts from Kakuna and Tauros.

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[skitzer]

OMG Embarrassing...Totally wrong FORUM!

Mod please delete that post...I knew multitasking was a bad idea.

But since I posted, I guess I should say something...

Surye is still my biggest suspicion, and Yosarian is far behind but in second.

(i sense embarrassing custom titles emulating from the above post)

[skitzer]

vote surye, vote yosarian2

I believe there should be at least one scum in the above duo. It makes verymuch sense now.

:doubleplusgood:

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Just curious...Surye, who do you plan on blowing up? I guess if he is scum, he could choose one of the best players in the game and not someone who is actually scummy. He wouldn't face any consequences (well, except death) either way.

On another note...I would actually like to take the place of kuribo. I'm much less of a need to the town than kuribo is, so if you can "say the word" in an hour or so. I'll do it myself.

[skitzer]

Vote: Surye

I feel very confident that Surye is mafia, but no one seemed to understand my interpretation.

[skitzer]

I did. You were scared you were going to be killed. Add on all the other little tidbits, and you've got a pretty good case.

[skitzer]

I'm sorry, I didn't say much because I was pretty sure Surye was Mafia. and I was correct.

So, know I will read intently and try to find another slip, a la Surye's scared-ness.

[skitzer]

I want to try to read surye through again and compare her interactions with the alive players.

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EBWOP:

his

interactions.

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Ha ha that is funny! Pokerface...hit me....hahahahaha!

Will try to do interaction anlaysis of Surye ASAP.

[skitzer]

Here is my analysis of Surye:

Post 38: His first post. Strikes a light, but comments that we don’t need anymore rash actions. Also says we need to stay organized, but yet he struck a light. No interactions with anyone yet.

Post 48: Discusses how unfortunate it is that you can’t put out your light. Interactions: says that the fact you can’t put out your light is a good point from LoudMouthLee and kuribo.

Post 75: Says he thought it was okay to strike a light because everyone else did, as a comment to LML. Says he will dynamite someone because scum aren’t likely to attack him (well duh) Interactions: above with LML.

Post 82: Lists a long line of “suspects” based on Adel’s reasoning that whoever is lit was most likely scum.Interactions: disagrees with Adel, says that Nightson is most likely scum.

Post 123: Says that he likes Adel’s plan, but augments it so that scum couldn’t slip through it, so that he could look protown. Interaction: Agreeing with Adel.

Post 200: Notes that Adel is town because of her light-striking manner. Also states that his suspicions are Skruffs, Yos and CES. Interactions: agrees with Adel. Suspicions on Skruffs, Yosarian2 and Cogito Ergo Scum.

Post 221: Quotes elmo’s “STOP STRIKING A LIGHT YOU MORONS” and says this is the game winning post. Interactions: Clearly stated, but note: Surye turned up scum.

Post 252: This is his infamous (at least to me) “scares me” post. The second paragraph doesn’t make sense to me. Interactions: Scared by CES, confused by the NK of Skruffs.

Post 262: Agrees with other that all Skizter (me) has done was lied, mislead, and lurked, then votes for me. Interactions: Suspicious of Skitzer (me)

Post 269: Wonders why pickemgenius finds him scummy. Doesn’t understand why his second-to-last post is scummy? Interactions: wondering about pickemgenius.

Post 273: Says my interpretation of his post doesn’t make sense. Note: he seems to be posting more frequently now that he’s been suspected. Interactions: Doesn’t understand skitzer (me).

Post 278: seems to have forgotten about peg asking about his post.

Post 307: wonders about Skitzer (me) disregarding the policy. Interaction: Finds Skitzer (me) and CES “interesting”

Post 310: says hes scared of two towns acting rash and killing each other, which is not what he said before.

Post 312: says he will comply, but doesn’t want to have a fourth rash death.

Post 352: wonders why pickemgenius keeps wanting to blow up surye.

Post 354: says quagmire’s post was useless because he was asking a null question.

Post 357: says he isn’t deflecting attention, and that he has defended everything so far.

Post 359: promises an analysis of skitzer (me).

Post 363: says he wants to blow up skitzer (me) in response to peg’s question.

Post 394: strikes a light, says he will take out yosarian2 or skitzer (me). Promises analysis again.

Post 397: says he doesn’t understand case on sarcastro. Interaction: clearly stated.

Post 403: blames kuribo of wanting a no-lynch just because he doesn’t have a clear opinion of scum.

Post 405: asks erg0 who he is talking about in his post.

Post 408: still says that kuribo is suggesting a no-lynch and that yos is the one panicking.

Post 411: something about a post being deleted due to his browser. No relevance

Post 422: finally explains his reasoning for kuribo’s no-lynch.

Post 452: says he didn’t have a chance to blow anyone up, and therefore he is not obv scum.

Post 454: EBWOP for surye: did to deed

Post 463: says that lurkers are most dangerous people. Also makes a funny – “keep your dynamite in your pants”

Post 468: asks kuribo to come up with a real argument of his own.. Also asks to “stick to the plan”.

Post 469: calls yosarian2 a parrot.

Post 472: strikes a light, says he will blow someone up.

Post 473: asks kuribo to strike a light too.

Post 475: says that kuribo does not understand the math of it, and that he is just rying to make appoint.

Post 476: states that nothing has been “laid out”, and that kuribo is now first on his list to go.

Post 487: votes kuribo, saying he is the only one who has did something scummy.

Post 488: gives a long list of what kuribo is trying to accomplish with premises, stating that premise 2 is false (actually, premise 1, “I am town”, was the one that was false.)

Post 490: states that he did not OMGUS.

Post 495: says he’d blow up the person with the most votes, insisting he still believes in the system.

Post 504: says that kuribo’s play is different from yesterday in the fact that he is much more scummy.

Post 514: says kuribo is a parrot and that he votes him without reason.

Post 522: says that skitzer needs to state his case in a logical way.

Post 524: says my post makes no sense again.

will finish later/tomorrow...but I have an assumption...

[skitzer]

Continuing…

Post 527: sarcastically mentions about Quagmire being protown, then wonders why he is fearing Elmo and Flameaxe when the seem to have done nothing wrong.

Post 529: wonders why Quagmire wants him to end the day so soon..

Post 531: disagrees with Quagmire again. Note: it seems as though he is trying to prolong his time in the game.

Post 570: ugh, long quotey post, but I’m going to sum it up as just a reexplanation of his actions so far.

Post 571: another quotey post, basically all stuff against kuribo…

In conclusion, this read-through helped me find someone who was definitely scummy: Elmo. He never was suspicious of surye. Add this to my analysis of Post 221, and you’ve got

Vote: Elmo

[skitzer]

In 221, I see some correlation between elmo's quote, and surye's post. Because if townies stopped striking lights, the scum would win because there would be no day kills.

527 isn't really an assumption. Except for the fact that Quagmire feared Elmo and Flameaxe, and now Quagmire is dead...

[skitzer]

EBWOP: It may be more informative to do a readthrough of Elmo. I'll do that next.

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I'm not saying elmo is scummy on that fact alone. I'm saying that Surye mentioned "game winning post" after that, and surye was scum.

[skitzer]

No.

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sigh...

Surye was scum.

Elmo said "STOP STRIKING A LIGHT YOU MORONS"

Surye later quoted this post and said "game winning post."

Am I the only one that sees this as a boastful remark between two scum?

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Elmo's statement was not boastful, it may have been him trying to look town. Surye was the one boasting.

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Oh, I don't have a good second candidate for Elmo...Marmalade and elvis seem the only ones reasonable to me.

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Why flameaxe? That doesn't make sense to me.

I think a much better choice would be elmo or elvis. I'd rather wait to replace Marmalade than blow her/him up.

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Wait, wouldn't Yosarians "slip" mean there is only 1 left?

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I'm starting to think CES is the last scum. I may have a big argument for this, strangely enogh.

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Here is my case on CES:

Day 1 Posts:

His first posts mention the words “as long as its not me, of course.” Remember how Surye said the same thing? Maybe this is a communal scum instinct for survival. His second post says he’ll dynamite the next person who votes him. Need I say more?

Day 2 Posts:

His first post of day 2 is a weird defense against his actions Day 1. His second post says he’d be happy with ooba exploding. His fifth post says that all negativity is towards the town in this setup.

Day 3 Posts:

The first post after the night scene, which is his, illustrates the strange nightkill choice. He even goes to note that the only thing strange about nightson’s (the NK) posts is that he suspected Surye, who we now know is scum. His second post (Post 187, I lost count ) says that his “dynamite the next person who votes me” post had no meaning.

Day 4 Posts:

nothing really valuable to this case

Day 5 Posts:

first post. Says yesterday was a disaster. Says surye and yos are scum together. Third post: says that he assumes surye is scum, but makes sure everyone knows he said assumed. Eighth post: He says yos should blow up surye. Ninth post: is some weird contradictory statement about yos and surye blowing up each other.

Day 6 Posts:

Third post: presents his list, and says that yosarian is cleared on interactions with surye. Twelfth and Thirteenth Posts: says yosarian is “confirmed town”, then changes it to “townish enough”.

Day 7 Posts:

Second Post: takes himself off his list only as an enforcer, not as town.

In addition to this: throughout the game, Surye, Yosarian2 and CES link themselves together somehow.

Another point is who was nightkilled. Ergo is an odd choice, but he probably wanted to keep PokerFace on his list so that he could suspect him today.

I’m pretty much sold.

vote: Cogito Ergo Scum

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WIFOM. Maybe. I'm still pretty convinced.