I'm actually fine with Greasy Spot DYNAMITING Blazerunner. Or someone else DYNAMITING Blazrunner. As long as it's not me, ofcourse.
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1) Yes. I thought Blazerunner was trying to blend in. It would've been better if someone else had killed him, though.PokerFace wrote:1) you encouraged someone to blow up blaze runner early in the game. Why? Got other reasoning or were you just agreeing with greasy spot?
2) anybody but you should blow him up of course and then you say you'll blow up someone that votes you?
2) That 'anybody should blow him up' was because I wasn't sold on Greasy Spot's guilt. I'd rather have waited for a better target to present itself. The second post was nonsense.-
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It's a neutral move in the sense that it would be a bad move for a townie as well as for a scum to do, but for the town as a whole, everyone striking lights isn't optimal.ooba wrote:It is a neutral move - Disadvantage with it is that stupid townies can blow you up (ala Greasy Spot) - but it is in the townies best interests to discuss and then have two people blow each other up - It does not put the "Town in danger" as you stated it. No particular advantage . So i guess i struck a light because i can.-
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No, itooba wrote:Its a neutral move from the standpoint of a smart townie - if the entire town (scum have to agree to this too) decide to discuss about the possibilities of who to kill and then make them blow up each other - then me striking or not striking a light has no effect on the game.doesaffect the game. If you're pressured and scum, you can dynamite one of the most townish players instead of being dynamited by someone scummy. Similarly, if another scum's being pressured, that scum can dynamite you. For the town as a whole, there can only be negative consequences.-
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I could argue that the use of the rolleyes smiley is a scumtell too, actually.Yosarian2 wrote: I really can't believe that anyone is actually taking that seriously as a "scum tell". Why, exactally, is it suspicious if I automatically used the phrase "all three scum" when I've played like a bazillion games where 3 scum are the standard?
And yes, there's a possibility you said 3 scums because that's the standard in mini games, and there's a possibility that you didn't. Even because the second is only a possibility, it still makes you more likely to be scum.
That's not the point. There have been 3 nights. Since townies have nothing to do at night, it seems like a good idea for scum to act like they have nothing to do with what's going on at night either, by means of miscounting the number of night. Really, it says DAY 4 right there.Yosarian2 wrote:Uh, I was pointing out that Skitzer was wrong when he claimed that the game had spent more times in day then in night, because there had only been two nights and they'd only been 24 hours each. I'd like to hear how that's supposed to be a tell.
Vote Yos- You happy now, PokerFace? I've expressed my opinion enough. Apparently you've taken the time to see if I made any votes this game, but if you actually read the posts you checked, you'd see I've given my opinion on a lot of people. And I don't need whole paragraphs for things that can be said in one or two sentences.-
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Yos:Those people were you, NabakovNabakov, PokerFace and Elmo. The four of you are definitely high up my suspicion list, but that suspicion partially hinges on the assumption that Surye is scum. Note the word partially here because it's important and I don't want to be misrepresented."This topic needs more CESc." --Vi-
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Je vous présente:
Le player list, from most scummy to least scummy*
- PokerFace- Scummy
Elmo- Equally scummy
Erg0- Iunno
Flameaxe- Iunno
Marmalade- Iunno
elvis_knits- Behaviorally town
Yosarian2- Behaviorally town yesterday and interaction with Surye.
Skitzer- Cleared on behavioral analysis and interaction with Surye.
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Hardly.PokerFace wrote:But tell me, you got anything else on me besides being between those wagons?
It's not really his interaction with Surye. Some of Surye's posts mention Yos in a way that looks like more than distancing. It's just a minor point in his favor, though. His behavior yesterday is far more important to me.PokerFace wrote:1. What about Yosarian's interaction with Surye makes you think he is not scum with Surye?Basically why are you getting off his case so quickly? It seems uncharacteristic of you. After all you pushed so hard on him. Even after saying this half way through yesterday:
Order is preferable above chaos. That's why I wouldn't want to vote for someone who hadn't struck a light. kuribo was actually high on my town list, higher than Yos. Hence the choice for Yos as dynamiter.PokerFace wrote:Since we got it setup so you can only vote for one person, the person you find the scummiest; What detail would make you put your vote on Yosarian instead of someone who avoided going off as Surye did on day 4? Yosarian was on Sarcastro's wagon as well day 4.
I didn't have good reads on them. They're in the 'vague' area. Perhaps Erg0 is more townish than the other two, I should reread that. But he's not one of my dynamite choices for today, so it doesn't matter much.PokerFace wrote:2. Erg0had alot of pro-town logic on day 3 around when UltimaAvalon and Adel 'got stoofed'. He also pushed hard on Surye being guilty. Do you actually see him being scummier than Marmalade and FlameAxe, two people that have rarly if at all voted? What are your thoughts on this?
Somewhere townish.PokerFace wrote:3. I recognize that NabNab is an enforcer, but where on your suspicon list would you put him?What color shade and why out of curiosity?
Very well. Hit me.PokerFace wrote:There is a fourth comment/question I have for you. I will mention it after you have commented on these its a rather long comment.-
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1) I thought Yos was town because of the way he behaved after Quag struck a light, so, yes, I suspected him before that moment.
2) Those comments are definitelynotdistancing, but they're comments from a scum trying to cast doubt on someone's townness.
Funny to see how scums jump all over you with OMGUS when you poke them.
I have no further case on you, but your post speaks for itself.
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Yes, I realise this is a point against me, and I realise I screwed up when I said that. I just think that, in order to effectively hunt scum, you shouldn't be easily distracted by other players when you're looking for a single one. I didn't want any distraction from Yos at the time, who was my main suspect.PokerFace wrote:The main/primary reason I am voting you is really because of this:
PokerFace wrote:Cogito Ergo Scum wrote:Hmm.. Strange nightkill choice again.
Yeah, I guess so. Surely, Surye was one of my top suspects at the time, too, but I was still going after Yos.PokerFace wrote:At the start of day 5did you actually think Yosarian was scummier than a guy that did not go off like Surye did?-
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Yes, I noticed this too, but I think it's not very productive to go after the enforcer.Yosarian2 wrote:Hmmm...
Looking at the end of the day yesterday, I don't really like NN's behavior. It kind of feels like he's looking for some alternative to the Suyve bandwagon; first he goes after me, then just about the time when it becomes obveous I'm completly willing to blow him up he backs down and goes after kuribo.vote:NabakovNabakov
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Iunno, really. I don't see the purpose of this question. NabNab will die before the end of the game anyway.Elmo wrote:CES: I think you might already have done this, but: you didn't classify NabNab's scumminess, because he's the nominated enforcer, but he was nominated by a townie with no extra information. Why didn't you, and what's your view on him?"This topic needs more CESc." --Vi-
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K,
I just can't read Flameaxe because he hardly ever plays. However, I wouldn't want to see him die.
Skitzer and Yos are confirmed town in my eyes, so I don't want them to (be) blow(n) up, either.
Pokerface's latest posts have been good, actually.Unvote. I don't want PokerFace to be blown up, but it might be wise if he blows up someone himself. I wouldn't object to that.
I suggest PF blows someone up unless NabNab checks in in time."This topic needs more CESc." --Vi-
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Confirmed town is a little too strong, maybe, yes. I'll change that too 'townish enough not to be dynamited today'. The reason for that is his behavior around the end of day 5. People's behavior can be analysed much better when they're in immediate danger of dying."This topic needs more CESc." --Vi-
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Yeah, that was probably stupid.
I actually tried to get Yos to be seen as 'confirmed town', so I could jump all over him if he wasn't nightkilled. Even though I'd seen him as scum the whole game I somehow couldn't get him lynched. The plan turned out very ineffective because Yos died before night.
I understand this was stupid, and as a consequence I'm willing to take over enforcer duties from NabNab immediately, meaning I will dynamite today. I'm not completely sure of NabNab's innocence, though, which is the only problem I have with enforcing myself."This topic needs more CESc." --Vi-
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K, the player list:
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I think Skitzer and Flameaxe are town.
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Of these, me and NabNab are enforcers, so I'll take us off the list (we'll be dynamiting today and tomorrow).
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skitzer, I'm not going to respond to your case post by post, because you didn't provide links or quotes, but from the looks of it, it looks more like I'mnotmafia than otherwise, really.
Oh, and that 'lists himself as enforcer' tell is bullcrap.
You're also completely ignoring how I pretty much pushed for Yos to blow up from day 1.
If I get 3 votes I will strike a light, and will take over enforcer duties from NabNab. skitzer's vote is the first, so I'll need two more."This topic needs more CESc." --Vi-
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'Cuz if I didn't, I would've dynamited you just 3 minutes ago.Cogito Ergo Scum wrote:
I also know today could be LyLo.Quagmire wrote:
I know this, and me doing it anyways should tell you something.Cogito Ergo Scum wrote:Really, if you want to dynamite me, striking a light isn't needed.
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