Big Four Mafia! Game Over!

[Creature]

Both are completely valid and you're discrediting them with really really shitty excuses

"lalalala my viewpoint is automatically valid yours not"

[Creature]

Check the timestamps, scum would've had plenty of time to hammer

I took at least half a day to coordinate a quickhammer with Drew and only Drew in Micc's True Love game.

Doctor Drew can confirm.

It's hard to get all four scum online in a span of about 9 hours like you claim to be.

[Creature]

You really don't seem to care who is lynched as long as someone that's not you gets lynched

Contradictory when I'm saying I don't want jjh lynched today

[Creature]

You don't seem to care either, but you have a fixated target which is infinitely worse.

[Creature]

Check the timestamps, scum would've had plenty of time to hammer

I took at least half a day to coordinate a quickhammer with Drew and only Drew in Micc's True Love game.

Doctor Drew can confirm.

It's hard to get all four scum online in a span of about 9 hours like you claim to be.

Check your math, I guess?

Dec 20 1:28 pm to Dec 20 10:41

A span of exactly 9 hours and 13 minutes

[Creature]

You don't seem to care either, but you have a fixated target which is infinitely worse.

I don't care who we lynch

I'm really only fine lynching you

Checks out

You haven't really opposed any other lynch, but you just want to focus on me so you don't have to solve other slots and potentially spew.

[Creature]

VOTE: Creature

VOTE: Chennisden

Creature, can I have your reads on everyone?

Creature is scum zzz

2828

I am good with voting Creature.....clearly.

VOTE: Creature

Creature, please answer Chenns question as well

VOTE: Drew

I love how in the same post Drew tries to say Creature was trying to set him up with the hood choice and then backtracks into saying he might be innocent.

VOTE: Doctor Drew

[Creature]

Not online at the time: jjh, Yoda, yurkin

[Creature]

so yeaaaaah

[Creature]

You ever consider that

Scum would try to hide their online statuses

Yeah, good chances they weren't online also

[Creature]

Now you're just pulling non-confirmable shit

[Creature]

The entire argument was "if I was town scum would've quickhammered" and I just proved there's a fair possibility that couldn't have happened because there weren't enough scum online to make it happen.

[Creature]

Anyway, this is an entirely unproductive line of discussion.

Yeah, I'm just arguing with scum

[Creature]

but there's a chance a townie will read all that and make the right choice

[Creature]

Also it's amusing to prove scum wrong

[Creature]

Already did that with Aster in an open game whose numbers I forgot (although that game still ended in a fucking loss because town is blind)

[Creature]

You must have a really low opinion of this town to think that you're fooling anyone

Well, town is getting fooled by you saying only buzzwords as if you were Trump

[Creature]

Your "I'm going to vote BS because he only says one thing about me" despite you also saying only one thing about him bullshit is exactly that: bullshit

He hasn't been any towny this game

and fmpov I better start chopping off those who can only pull the "he forced massclaim" bullshit

[Creature]

Creature your "massclaim isn't scummy" even though

there's a ton of benefits for scum

(these have been already gone over) bullshit is exactly that: bullshit

except at the time 9 players already claimed and only 6 didn't, of which, three you/gobbly think are scum (me, jjh, Yoda)

[Creature]

fmpov I better start chopping off those who can only pull the "he forced massclaim" bullshit

Hmm... yeah don't think "He hasn't been any towny this game" really was your point

He hasn't been any towny this game

and

fmpov I better start chopping off those who can only pull the "he forced massclaim" bullshit

[Creature]

fmpov I better start chopping off those who can only pull the "he forced massclaim" bullshit

Hmm... yeah don't think "He hasn't been any towny this game" really was your point

If he felt any towny, then yeah, maybe I would have stopped there

but all he did was unwarrantedly claim doctor, fail to protect anyone, change his claim so he doesn't get blamed for it and now he just jumped on the most popular wagon

[Creature]

@mod

do we know if we get vanillized?

Why did he ask this?

[Creature]

@mod

do we know if we get vanillized?

Why did he ask this?

Stupid question, was that before or after the night he claims to be vannialized?

It was D2. He claims to have been vanillaised N2.

Was yurkin vanillaized N1?

[Creature]

Oh right, remembered VCs are funky

[Creature]

I mean they’re both scum but I would rather get rid of JJH because I think he/Yoda are the vanillalizer.

chennis tracked him to nowhere N3 the same night Drew was vanillaized?

[Creature]

jjh can't be vanillaizer

[Creature]

Like wtf. Why hide behind Creature. I was entertaining that in some weird world your role exists but the creature hide is just literally awful. I can’t think of a single protown reason to do that.

The track on Drew was way worse imo

[Creature]

For vanillaizer:

jjh927

- Tracked nowhere according chennis

Doctor Drew

- Tracked nowhere according chennis

Chennisden

- Must be tracker? Could be lying to save vanillaizer

yurkin

- Proven vanillaized

gobbledygook

- I assume proven flavorcop?
Blatant Scum

Creature

- Must be neighborizer + vanillaizer mix which is meh
YodaVader

[Creature]

Either one of BS/Yoda is vanillaizer or chennisden is lying to save vanillaizer

[Creature]

Either way we should probably lynch within that group

[Creature]

Not online at the time: jjh, Yoda, yurkin

[Creature]

Likely this is scum:

VOTE: Yoda

[Creature]

was gobbledygook's slot able to give accurate flavor results before flavorclaims?

[Creature]

I think we should give jjh a public target to hide tonight

[Creature]

Still pretty sure yurkin is just town

[Creature]

I think we should give jjh a public target to hide tonight

Why are you certain a Yoda lynch doesn't end the game?

The vanillaizer is either him or BS or chennis is lying about results

Anyway if Yoda is town we're losing anyway so would rather assume they're scum here

[Creature]

Bad accusation

Assuming someone's alignment doesn't mean shit

[Creature]

I was going to neighborize you and Titus though

Btw for those interested

[Creature]

I pretty much revealed who I wanted to neighborize the dat before Egix's death

[Creature]

So not something I planned specifically that night

[Creature]

Mod

Can we start modkilling slots that aren't doing shit (like yurkin)?

[Creature]

Creature, if you want yurkin dead you should start pushing for the change in the world you want

Nah I just want that deadslot gone from my sight

I don't want to waste a lynch on it

[Creature]

Spoiler:

Your "I'm going to vote BS because he only says one thing about me" despite you also saying only one thing about him bullshit is exactly that: bullshit

He hasn't been any towny this game

and fmpov I better start chopping off those who can only pull the "he forced massclaim" bullshit

Question. Would does mean *square gest* in your country?

It's VAR. In a soccer match the referee can request to see the replay video.

[Creature]

@mod

do we know if we get vanillized?

Why did he ask this?

To look not-vanillized.

Nevermind. It was day 2. I expected mafia to target me N1 (so there should be no-kill), but someone was killed. That was me inquiring whether I was vanillized instead or not.

So the reason in post 4039 was fabricated just now or what?

[Creature]

Solution: ignore the slot

Hard to do specially if we need their vote to achieve a lynch

[Creature]

All the paranoia going on involves gobbledyck, Yoda and me being all town and scum even being able to coordinate a quickhammer which is kinda stupid.

[Creature]

And, I cannot see bussing at this point.

I agree, maybe try seeing a scum!Yoda town!me world

[Creature]

VOTE: Yoda

[Creature]

gg that was a very townsided setup

[Creature]

Oh nvm, someone unvoted

[Creature]

(I knew I was voting Yoda already for those unaware)

[Creature]

Still, if Yoda is town either gobble or chen will have to be scum with me

[Creature]

(I knew I was voting Yoda already for those unaware)

If you’re town, you just threw the game.

So if I am scum dude

[Creature]

(I knew I was voting Yoda already for those unaware)

If you’re town, you just threw the game.

So if I am scum dude

or you really think I tried to quickhammer Yoda despite knowing I was voting him already?

[Creature]

Still we can do this:

VOTE: Blatant

[Creature]

(I knew I was voting Yoda already for those unaware)

If you’re town, you just threw the game.

So if I am scum dude

or you really think I tried to quickhammer Yoda despite knowing I was voting him already?

Why would you say the setup was townsided.

Just tried to reaction test

The setup townsided thing was staging

[Creature]

What is the town motivation or reasoning for doing what you did Creature

The reactions we are getting right now?

[Creature]

I think that makes Yoda more likely to be town, but means BS must be scum and likely there's one scum between you and chen

[Creature]

chen being scum would mean my original BS + chen scumteam was accurate

[Creature]

Creature seemed like scum trying to end the game by hammering Yoda.

I was already voting Yoda

[Creature]

Oh right

[Creature]

This game was bullshit

[Creature]

I think that hammer reaction test thing was actually to benefit Yoda scum.

You're scum right?

[Creature]

Oh nvm it's just chen + kjh + Yoda and the rest of the town was vanillaized

[Creature]

Btw no way this game is evrr townsided

Full vanillaizer is as overpowered as an ungated cult recruiter

[Creature]

Yes Gobble is scum and that is why me chennis and yoda all voted in a 28 second span and hammered

Yep, just that gobble voted me when he definitely should've voted Yoda there

[Creature]

Nah it's a super townsided game tbh

Most PRs were blatant trash though

[Creature]

I think only cop and doctor had acyual significance

[Creature]

And I was just gonna say Yoda could be coached scum

[Creature]

No, you had an IC, Masons, neighborizer, another neighborizer

Town massively misplayed, we read PRs, and you guys were damn close to locking down the game,

Neighborizer had zero actual significance

[Creature]

In fact feels like the neighborozers were meant to lynch each other

[Creature]

Pretty obvious this setup wasn't really townsided

[Creature]

Had a 17v4 setup with a bunch of town PRs approved for balance too

[Creature]

12v4v1 is actually scumsided

[Creature]

Would demand a vigilante

[Creature]

Not that Drew wasn't already actively helping scum all game...

[Creature]

12v4v1 is actually scumsided

You had THREE fucking absolute conftowns and many other roles that would have been proven town by setup

scum's potential for fakeclaims was ultimately pretty bad

Day 1 massclaim would have won the game, especially with the IC being informed of no vanillas

It's nothing when game is pretty much 12v5

[Creature]

Three conftown are still not able to take a 3-man scumteam in 13p

[Creature]

No, you actively misplayed

I admit I do

Doesn't mean I shouldn't complain a survivor setup is bullshit

[Creature]

the setup was poorly designed

[Creature]

Also yeah if scum refused to bus we would pretty much still lose because yurkin was a dead townslot

[Creature]

ADDING SECRET 3PS RUINS YOUR SETUP AND MODDING REPUTATION
ADDING SECRET 3PS RUINS YOUR SETUP AND MODDING REPUTATION
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[Creature]

No, you actively misplayed

I admit I do

Though I had zero participation in any mislynch and even opposed the Gamma mislynch and also pushed a strategy that would've fucked scum had town not gone stupid

[Creature]

3ps can add shit to setups it's just you should use them sparingly and in cool ways

Setup only works if everyone is previously told they exist

The surprise element is no more than the equivalent of finding out rats chewed your money

[Creature]

I am also upset at Creature for doing that stupid reaction test

If just you were patient I would have gone for Yoda and chen for the coach

[Creature]

3ps can add shit to setups it's just you should use them sparingly and in cool ways

Setup only works if everyone is previously told they exist

The surprise element is no more than the equivalent of finding out rats chewed your money

I will go back and find my post where I said 'Baker Level Bastard' literally means third party.

Is it in any post this game thread?

I don't think anyone goes for the sign up thread before replacing in

[Creature]

Town played this so, so poorly.

Again had zero participation in the mislynch

All I did was to logically push a massclaim D2 after 60% of the players already claimed

[Creature]

Yoda was literally going to die before you pulled that stupid hammer reaction test, so... no.

Hey we could have locked on chen being scum afterwards

[Creature]

Still frustrating when the setup clearly hints 13v4 so you play like it's a normal mafia game but it's actually ~12v5

[Creature]

"forcing a massclaim D2 is scummy"

Okay gonna force a massclaim D1 every game then

[Creature]

We should really talk more about Looker making the choice to withhold being a supersaint so he could kill someone who had been innoed by Alch

Had Looker claimed D1 that would leave exactly three antitown unclaimed and we could've pushed the fuxk out of them

[Creature]

TSE carried this scumteam my lord

Fuck no

Look at who drove mislynches

Titus? gobble?

[Creature]

gg everyone

Not a good game when most players barely ever played