In post 12456, Almost50 wrote:OK, I will say this for the last time:
gobble explicitly outed himself as a cult. Not only that, but he also outed dave as a cult partner. WHY DIDN'T GOBBLE GET MOD-KILLED? It's because THAT WAS NOT PLAYING AGAINST HIS WIN CON. The cult has some way of still growing.
We have no indication that the cult is still growing. The only reason the cult kept growing in MM1 was due to a very rare scenario in which an ability upgrader targeted a cult, making the cult a replacement CL.
For your theory to be correct, we would also need cult!UT, as he checked and cleared xofelf.
I also don't think it's possible that the cult is larger than just gobble rn. Since Pine motivated Bingle N1, BB on most subsequent nights, and KA all recent nights, there's almost no room for additional recruits. Perhaps 1, but again, we need xofelf AND UT to be cult for this to be the case.
So, I propose we lynch gobble today, and leash Elements unto xofelf. If she flips Town then we know gobble was the last cult 100% and you all are welcome to lynch me tomorrow (to get to 9 players and see if Elements/Miss Lynch will leave the game). If xofelf flip cult herself, you know you've been played by the Turkey, and then you cab act accordingly.
Why is gobble so pressing to you? Assuming for a moment that you're correct about the growing cult, do you think he's the reason for its continued growth? Why?
If you don't think he's the reason, why advocate for his death when it would be more pressing to kill the new CL?
@EP: Is your bet on me being today's lynch worth more to you than a Town win? Because, I'm telling you right now lynching me is a waste of a lynch from town's PoV. I know you still suspect me, but what the hell, man? Even if we hypothetically accept your argument (which is clearly faulty) that I stole your ability then I will still be JK'd tonight anyway.
How does lynching you over gobble lose us the game? Even if we're somehow wrong on you, how do we lose because of it?
If you were in my shoes and you were hunting for the Bugbear, who would you pick? I know it's not gobble, so it has to be someone else.
Now why is your theory clearly faulty? Because I have been JK'd for 2-3 nights now. I could not have possibly stolen anything from you or anyone else, unless you assume I am something like strongman strong-willed already, and then if that's the case then it doesn't make sense to accuse me of having earned something from you to make a kill! See? I either could not have acted last night AND the night before (at the very least), or I could have acted anyway and the "he could have won something fro4m my ability" is no longer true.
This is incorrect.
12459 demonstrates why.
But the fact is I am NOT the Bugbear to begin with. Don't you think I would have given Rauth a post to verify if I was his scum p? The mere fact I avoided giving away any info regarding my alignment/role until Rauth was outed should prove I am not scum (or at least not on his team).
Over and out.
I'm the contrary, your unwillingness to give any details about your flavour makes you more suspicious. I think that you didn't know enough about the flavour to ensure you didn't accidentally incriminate yourself, so you made up an excuse to delay a flavour claim until you could come up with one.
On your point about Rauth, I don't see any convincing reason why/why not scum would give a post to their buddy who was lying about a lie detector. If anything, it just looks like you set it up so you could later say something to the effect of, "I knew he was lying....see?!"
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