Titus v. Alisae (endgame)

[OkaPoka]

See i can say things that simultaneously suck up to titus and are true since im conf town

[OkaPoka]

Leafy literally Mason claimed to stop me from pushing him and aaron

[OkaPoka]

I agree heil comrade PP

[OkaPoka]

Rr should claim

[OkaPoka]

Sw is confirmed town because chemist got blocked, aaronfrost couldnt block, sw is confirmed as a non blocker and town hasnt claimed a block on sw

[OkaPoka]

I too happen to be confirmed town and as a confirmed town with a vote i say we massclaim

[OkaPoka]

Titus as a strong ally to womens suffrage for the past 4 days you should help a brother out and get people to massclaim

[OkaPoka]

As public servant for the PPP i humbly request your support for my bill, massclaim or die

[OkaPoka]

I have an old boon case somewhere in my iso

[OkaPoka]

Spoiler: Timeline of quotes

wanna lynch flavor leaf

VOTE: flavor

Thus far OkaPoka/Sherlock through their comments towards me are town indicative.

At least I explained myself more extensively than your reads. So yes, I think my reads hold merit.

You said RR was scum for PoEing Boon and Esp when your reasons for townreading Boon is 100% pick spec and your reasons for townreading Esp is because he's posting

-S

I feel this isn’t fair. Most of my posts this game prior to today had literally been directed towards Bitmap, and Titus, Bitmap, Alisae, Math, and Chkflip just met up like a week and a half ago, so there’s momentum from that.

I think it’s more than just pick spec as you mentioned. I think Bitmap’s read and the fact that he is having trouble expressing it completely in the first part is incredibly townie.

this is just garbage

One of Krazy hydra/Ankamius, but exactly one of them.

You're kinda looking at this the wrong way though

Duck and SS get to pick

If Ali goes first and does a top priority heavy that isn't Ank, then Duck could very easily double on us for town

Which is precisely why you're basically just looking at the pick logic totally wrong, you're over-prioritizing what is actually an incredibly difficult puzzle to analyze. Focus on play, Boon, before you actually make me want to policy lynch you for real Like half of what you've said since you stopped actually solving is like pure cancer

-S

So? I post a lot. It’s not like I don’t analyze play whilst all this.

I also think my posting is fantastic for reactions.

We’ll see.

If I’m right, like I usually am when people push at me, at least 2/3 partially, you can ask PenguinPower on my solve capabilities at the expense of some minor casualties.

And this is a solid base of the puzzle. I found a good amount of puzzle pieces, and looking at em all before I start trying to piece it together.

I think one of the people who have posted against me tonight is scum, and almost exactly one of them.

I no longer town read OkaPoka either. Maki/Oka/Krazy slot have probably 1 maybe 2 scum within them, but more likely 1.

Wow absolutely no surprises scum would go after me, i used some machine learning blockchain cloud analysis parsing the big data of the game state just wow

Been going after even before your fake push

Wow absolutely no surprises scum would go after me, i used some machine learning blockchain cloud analysis parsing the big data of the game state just wow

Been going after even before your

fake

push

Your real push happened before mine, your fake push happened after

Okay what about lying about the history to create a false gamestate premise

No, you’re the one lying. I split your push into pre flavor being here and after. You’re one after i showed up is fake

Nah, i chang3d my mind on you before you were ever interactin with me, don’t misrep.

Like the above is an extremely condensed timeline of posts, there are a lot more relevant scum indcative posts of flavor but for all of your sakes I just quoted some important timeline events to make the conversation easier.

I think its pretty clear that

a) Flavor townread me at one point or the other
b) I shaded Flavor after his townread of me
c) He flipped his read on me after I shaded him, he acknowledges it here:

I think one of the people who have posted against me tonight is scum, and almost exactly one of them.

Like he has this idea bouncing around in his head that I'm targetting him because of his ability to draft speculate, which I mean I guess is fair? I did originally shade his draft speculation as garbage, but we can well -establish the fact that Flavor Leaf has in fact, flipped his read on me partially due to me shading him. This is self-evident.

So well, game moves on, and Flavor makes some interesting comments where suddenly he paints this picture ~a picture mind you where it looks like I'm pushing him reactively, it's the implication of a chainsaw defense, omgus push you name it. Which I find strange and lacking of, well consistency? Like we can acknowledge town are hypocrites and fickle, but when a decent portion of your read flip is a result of something happen, its awfully confusing and weird to suddenly misremember that detail isn't it? I mean sure, its perfectly possible for Flavor to have "gamestate" reasons to continue scumreading me, but what lead him there is exactly my shade on his draft spec, he

LITERALLY

acknowledges this and now he acts like I'm just simply acting in response to everything?

Which makes this even more strange, because Flavor Leaf, after being pressed on it, clarifies that I indeed had two pushes this game. A real push first, and a fake push. Which is weird because he never at first acknowledges the legitimacy of my first push until after he is pressed about it, and does so now in order to self-rationalize some sort of internal consistency. Like he continues to try and qualify and muddle his claim of how events transpire when its pretty clear that the start of his scumread on me is very much diametrically opposed to how he's trying to push me now. He's pushing me based on the implication that I'm omgusing, let's be honest. Since he hasn't really mentioned whatever that draft spec was nor is he really willing to elaborate much on his gamestate read. But that's just something townies don't do is it? You see townies add on their case constantly and let it evolve, but the core of the scumread isn't just something town forget in what? ~span of 24 hours?

idk dude maybe I'm just rambling but I figured making a post like this would be helpful since I appear not to be in the minority, but literally the sole person here who sees this.

And you think ScumFL, year of 2019 alone won 10 scum games, would be that obvious about flip flopping?

I mean comments like these, which I can probably find at least one more in your iso and many of your games are extremely effective and well - manipulative, though probably not AI so its best I don't case them up because you will do stuff like this on both sides.

I just want to make sure everyone here doesn't just buy into comments like these as evidence why Flavor Leaf is town.

Because if you break it down, it just leads to a bit of weird logic where nothing can really be incriminating to Flavor Leaf because Flavor Leaf wouldn't be this obvious, right? Like operating under this assumption just leads to WIFOM and self doubt because well, its like the RC argument where nothing is really incriminating to RC because scum!RC would've done x,y,z and won the game already. Like nothing can really stick to Flavor Leaf being scum because Flavor Leaf wouldn't be this obvious! Is the conclusion that would be drawn from this every time.

It's annoying and it works but before you go on and tell me why something like flip flopping is a special case that makes sense I'd like to tell you that as town Flavor Leaf has done this and it worked decently well where he was able to dodge lynches since he went back to the scum!Flavor isn't this obvious right. And Flavor as either alignment can pick that up and use it for future games so its not really AI.

There are perfectly legitimate reasons as to why a scum!Flavor just would've messed up here, or did a calculated play. I mean results-based analysis is the devil and all, but nobody is really considering him to be scum from these flops, I mean you have people townreading him for it and you even have people like AaronFrost who literally want me to go point out why flip flopping and wifom logic is scum motivated. Well, flip flopping by itself isn't really that scum motivated, its a lot more contextual than just saying Flavor Leaf flip flopped so he must be scum -that isn't what I'm arguing here, flip flopping isn't AI. Its the fact that he is conveniently leaving out details to push me in a way that contradicts his flip flop is what, in my eyes, so damning. You can of course tack on the whole chaos and confusion argument as well here, but that's a different premise as to why Flavor is scum that isn't going to be explored here. I want to just focus on this aspect of Flavor's game here, and why you shouldn't just buy into this crap, it works, he knows it works, and he's re-labelling my argument and boiling it down into a slightly morphed argument that is more easily defended against.

[OkaPoka]

can you shut up about the massclaim

holy shit

Theres like no reason not to massclaim idc if you want to have a cool reveal

[OkaPoka]

Gimme a good argument of why we shouldnt massclaim

[OkaPoka]

One scum left, we are in the process of just confirming townies to make this a mech solve

[OkaPoka]

Especially if tse hero venges its important he doesn't venge someone eho can be conf townd

[OkaPoka]

Ok if titus wants you to not massclaim you can not claim but help me make others claim?

[OkaPoka]

Im not going to play suboptimally because of fear

If tse doesnt shoot boon but shoots someone who isnt confirmable then its annoying but a win is a win

[OkaPoka]

TSE is a claimed babysitter just so you know Titus

[OkaPoka]

Titus can you have rr claim today

[OkaPoka]

Tse venges fl

[OkaPoka]

Just get tse in here to confirm his vengekill

[OkaPoka]

TSE can u venge flavor

[OkaPoka]

You venge fl and we lynch espy?

[OkaPoka]

The camp that townreads espy doesnt anymore because his claim was not cool enough

[OkaPoka]

So you dont need to worry

[OkaPoka]

Tse i promise to spam the thread tomorrow to lynch espy and babyrage eveywhere if you venge flavor

[OkaPoka]

Hi tse you venge flavor as penance for calling me an idiot for pushing aaronfrost ok?

[OkaPoka]

TSE you have sinned

For forgiveness you venge flavor ok? You want to be a team player and people to play with you, you venge flavor

You can put your other srs down and we will pursue them

[OkaPoka]

Ok so you will venge flavor?

[OkaPoka]

It’s best to keep me alive until MYLO or LYLO and lynch me.
Then I look at everything and decide as to whom I am Venge Killing.

We are on even numbers, having you venge now is the same

[OkaPoka]

Look tse

Titus approves a fl venge and since we arent massclaimiming, you might hit a conf town that someone is sitting on so just venge on consensus scum

[OkaPoka]

Tse look

Town doesnt want to massclaim today so it isnt happening

[OkaPoka]

TSE please just venge flavor

Every single conf town wants you to venge flavor leaf

[OkaPoka]

If tse doesnt venge flavor then we policy him anyways and realize that he wont change

[OkaPoka]

Look tse just agree to venge flavor so you don't have this entire playerlist hate you

[OkaPoka]

Alright sure i promise to push rr tmr

[OkaPoka]

Flavor isnt going to claim?

[OkaPoka]

Flavor isnt going to claim?

[OkaPoka]

Ok wait i want rr to claim or if anyone cam verify flavor being vanilla

UNVOTE:

[OkaPoka]

Pine could check flavor

[OkaPoka]

And we can force alisae to kill pine or flavor and both of them are in poes so that works out

Rr claims and then maybe tse venges rr

[OkaPoka]

This game is probably mechanically winnable

[OkaPoka]

And if ank has a relevant ability maybe we can have insurance

[OkaPoka]

RR claimed ascetic joat so no he cant

Any verified vanillas atp are conftown

[OkaPoka]

Anyways if flavor retracts we instantly policy that slot

[OkaPoka]

Flavor is probably scum but lets go for a guaranteed win if it exists ok?

[OkaPoka]

Unvote tse please i want rr fullclaim

[OkaPoka]

Titus we can check flavor ffs

[OkaPoka]

Fl isnt optimal venge

[OkaPoka]

Pine checks flavor for vanilla and if he is then flavor is conftown

If hes not then hes scum

Or alisae kills one of them and that removes person from poe

[OkaPoka]

GOONS CANT ROLEBLOCK FFS

[OkaPoka]

NOR CAN THEY ALIEN ETC PLEASE LISTEN TO ME

[OkaPoka]

PINE WILL BE LEASHED ONTO FLAVOR BOTH SLOTS BEING POE SLOTS SO WE CAN EITHER GET CONFTOWNS ARE ALISAE CAN REMOVE POE SLOTS

LETS VENGE SOMEONE WHO CANT BE CONFIRMED TOWN

[OkaPoka]

jesus christ alright lets not go for a mechanically guaranteed win

[OkaPoka]

Pine checks flavor for vanilla and if he is then flavor is conftown

If hes not then hes scum

Or alisae kills one of them and that removes person from poe

How is he conftown?

If hes vanilla he couldn't have affected chemists no result and af couldnt have either and town would have claimed to have affected the result so all vanillas are conftown

[OkaPoka]

I'm not interested in more claims or more outing of info.

Just lynch TSE, venge flavor.

If the game continues, there's next to no room to hide.

WE CAN LYNCH FLAVOR LATER

LETS GUARANTEE THE WIN INSTEAD

[OkaPoka]

HOLY SHIT GUYS WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WHAT DONT YOU GET

IF PINE DIES THATS OK HE ISNT CONF TOWN AND WE LYNCH FLAVOR TMR

[OkaPoka]

I HAVE LEASHED ALISAES NK TO PINE OK?

[OkaPoka]

CAN PINE BE CONFIRMED AS TOWN?

NO

THEREFORE HE WILL BE IN POE

THEREFORE LEASHING ALISAE TO KILL HIM RATHER THAN A CONF TOWN IS GOOD THANK YOU

[OkaPoka]

WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU MEAN BE QUIET

[OkaPoka]

Please just fucking unvote

[OkaPoka]

Hectic get your ass in here and unvote

[OkaPoka]

Please just fucking unvote

I'm a stump. My vote has no value.

Well titus people can pretend to be a dumbass and say imma vote tse because its endorsed by titus

[OkaPoka]

And i need time to make sure pine has been leashed to flavor

[OkaPoka]

Oh my fucking god okay im going back brb in 15 minutes so i can flame you on a keyboard rather than mobile

[OkaPoka]

Titus calm yourself 10 minutes until im home

Stay online pls

[OkaPoka]

OKAY TITUS FIRST QUESTION DO YOU AGREE A VANILLA RESULT = CONFTOWN?

[OkaPoka]

okay ty titus

can we wait for an RR fullclaim first

[OkaPoka]

I think TSE should venge Hectic

TSE vengekills RR
if game continues, Pine checks Leafy
Pine dies if he's town
in that case we lynch Leafy

this

and it'll never "frame" flavor leaf because otherwise pine has a guilty on flavor leaf

[OkaPoka]

we need 1) RR to claim

2) Pine to acknowledge he is leashed onto Flavor Leaf this night

before day ends

[OkaPoka]

thank fuck everyone else gets it

[OkaPoka]

oh and we need TSE to acknowledge his venge target

[OkaPoka]

IF we are going to venge RR i want a list of everything RR has done this game

titus

its not suboptimal please dont say that

[OkaPoka]

its literally mechanical optimal even if it would hypothetically extend the game because its mitigating risk of being wrong

[OkaPoka]

guess whos online and needs to claim

^_^

RR!

[OkaPoka]

flavor please just dont post for the rest of the day

[OkaPoka]

welp see you guys until RR prodges

[OkaPoka]

flavor leaf stop cluttering the thread so the ms boomers dont have an excuse to say they missed the part where they have to claim

please quote this post

RR we need a fullclaim including all night actions
Pine we need you to check Flavor Leaf tonight

please acknowledge posts

[OkaPoka]

flavor leaf stop cluttering the thread so the ms boomers dont have an excuse to say they missed the part where they have to claim

please quote this post

RR we need a fullclaim including all night actions
Pine we need you to check Flavor Leaf tonight

please acknowledge posts

[OkaPoka]

well let me put it this way

Titus how confident are you in all your conftown reads?

Everyone who is not Hectic, RR, FL or TSE is town. I am 95% certain of that.

because FL can be sorted via Pine's vanilla cop

Hectic, RR, and TSE cannot.

I think TSE should venge Hectic

TSE vengekills RR
if game continues, Pine checks Leafy
Pine dies if he's town
in that case we lynch Leafy

[OkaPoka]

S_W, OkaPoka are conf towned mechanically

+ masons

[OkaPoka]

i am vanilla

[OkaPoka]

well let me put it this way

Titus how confident are you in all your conftown reads?

Everyone who is not Hectic, RR, FL or TSE is town. I am 95% certain of that.

because FL can be sorted via Pine's vanilla cop

Hectic, RR, and TSE cannot.

I think TSE should venge Hectic

TSE vengekills RR
if game continues, Pine checks Leafy
Pine dies if he's town
in that case we lynch Leafy

[OkaPoka]

well let me put it this way

Titus how confident are you in all your conftown reads?

Everyone who is not Hectic, RR, FL or TSE is town. I am 95% certain of that.

because FL can be sorted via Pine's vanilla cop

Hectic, RR, and TSE cannot.

I think TSE should venge Hectic

TSE vengekills RR
if game continues, Pine checks Leafy
Pine dies if he's town
in that case we lynch Leafy

[OkaPoka]

so whats the over/under on when RR claims

[OkaPoka]

wait did Pine claim to be ascetic btw?

[OkaPoka]

if anyone has a saving ability except for babysitter should sit on pine

[OkaPoka]

but no jk/alien on pine obviously

[OkaPoka]

alisae time to concede

[OkaPoka]

the game is mechanically over alisae

its a matter of formality

please dont make this go on for 2 weeks

[OkaPoka]

wow im flattered but im conf town lulz

[OkaPoka]

no dont venge flavor leaf you are vengeing rr but i want rr claim first

[OkaPoka]

I swear rr was online

[OkaPoka]

Is that it? What else, list of all actions and claim etc

[OkaPoka]

Like what is your role pm

[OkaPoka]

Or not what is your role pm what is name of role in pm

[OkaPoka]

im thinking we venge hectic

and then lynch RR

[OkaPoka]

im thinking we venge hectic

and then lynch RR

So we venge the guy who cleared you initially and we put off venging the guy who bodyguarded one of the four slots as consensusly possible... uhh I don't think I got enough booze to justify that play.

if he is bp he will keep us on evens

i want to maximize number of lynches per nk

[OkaPoka]

RR fullclaim please

[OkaPoka]

can you in one cohesive post go through everything in your role?

afaik you are an ascetic one shot bp joat with only two shots? neighborizer and bg

[OkaPoka]

its an activated bp?

[OkaPoka]

so you only have two shots...

[OkaPoka]

anyways

crumbs?

[OkaPoka]

So are you a

1-shot Bulletproof Joat (Neighborizer/Bodyguard)

or a JOAT (Neighborizer/Bodyguard/1-shot BP)

because the first implies not activated while second implies activated

[OkaPoka]

lmao wait ank is your last shot rolecop

[OkaPoka]

Better idea

Lynch RR

Leash TSE onto Pine who is leashed onto Flavor

[OkaPoka]

accomplishes the same as TSE vengeing RR and Pine leashed onto Flavor except now we circumvent the BP

yw

[OkaPoka]

VOTE: RR

[OkaPoka]

Lynch RR

TSE leashed to Pine and Pine is on Flavor leaf

Lynch flavor leaf tomorrow

Then lynch Hectic

This plan should clear out Titus' entire PoE

[OkaPoka]

Lynch RR

Alisae kills TSE who kills Pine

Lynch Flavor Leaf

Alisae kills a conf town say me

Lynch Hectic

Alisae kills SW

Hopefully ank clears someone in the middle there


<Ank,Gobble,Espy>

If Titus has two masons in there the game is over

[OkaPoka]

Also since Vengeful Mafia and Mafia Vigis don't exist in normal games there is actually no way of circumventing this

[OkaPoka]

okay well either way all claimed joats have neighborizers + rolecop so RR has a unique ability without rolecop

[OkaPoka]

Lynch RR

Alisae kills TSE who kills Pine

Lynch Flavor Leaf

Alisae kills a conf town say me

Lynch Hectic

Alisae kills SW

Hopefully ank clears someone in the middle there


<Ank,Gobble,Espy>

If Titus has two masons in there the game is over

This is the plan

If something comes up and I'm not alive hopefully you guys take a look back and use your mechanics brain instead of being lazy

[OkaPoka]

a multitasking alien is literally the only way this plan does not guarantee a win

[OkaPoka]

With a multitasking alien you will have a lylo with like


Ank,Pine,Espy I guess

[OkaPoka]

My plan is good...

[OkaPoka]

Guys we need to circumvent the chance rr is bp by lynching that slot and using tse as a way to "venge" pine

[OkaPoka]

If RR is truly bp then vengeing RR is bad

If RR is not bp then hes lying scum in which case lynching that is good

[OkaPoka]

Please vote rr instead, tse be on pine

[OkaPoka]

My plan leaves a gobble,espy,ank lylo

[OkaPoka]

Can we do my plan?

[OkaPoka]

Ok fine

Ill trust you

[OkaPoka]

UNVOTE:

Pine and tse should acknowledge what is up

[OkaPoka]

Titus with the info i see, it doesnt conftown ank so i hope you have extra info

[OkaPoka]

Pine you are on flavor verbally confirm

[OkaPoka]

Pine you will vanilla cop flavor tonight

Confirm by saying so

[OkaPoka]

Titus when you say conf town do you mean mech town or 99% townie

[OkaPoka]

Ok good i like your interpretation so ank will be conftown after vengeing rr?

[OkaPoka]

Vengeing happens at twilight i think if thar affects anything

[OkaPoka]

Titus i really hope you have more info you are sitting on than that because otherwise I feel my plan is better

[OkaPoka]

I dont need to know what other info you have just reassure me that you have more info

[OkaPoka]

Ready to end the day?

[OkaPoka]

VOTE: tse

[OkaPoka]

Np

[OkaPoka]

Whats the vc at

[OkaPoka]

Me gobble pine tse flavor hectic are all voting tse i think

[OkaPoka]

Someone get the mods so tse can go nuts

[OkaPoka]

Also fwiw in the future if you are a rolecop and someone claims vengeful you rolecop that claim since you cant have vengeful scum

[OkaPoka]

Like idk why that didnt happen this game with tse claiming vengeful like d2

[OkaPoka]

all im saying is if we had two more masons left including gobble this game would've been a guaranteed win! so that means titus has a better plan than a guaranteed win by lylo

[OkaPoka]

im interested if the rationing continued

[OkaPoka]

We are mass claiming today. If anyone else has withheld anything relevant, let us know. Pine's result on FL goes first, even if he wishes to withhold things elsewhere.

god bless titus

[OkaPoka]

THIS IS THE PART OF ME

[OkaPoka]

no way gobble was a mason holy shit im shook

[OkaPoka]

alright

what are your bets on pine's results

[OkaPoka]

actually lets not do that

[OkaPoka]

it was very obvious

yet you killed insomnia n2 u noob

[OkaPoka]

analyzing when pine posts

i think it will be a good like 10 hours before he posts again he's probably asleep rn

[OkaPoka]

It starts with pine?

[OkaPoka]

Pine claims first i think?

[OkaPoka]

maybe ank will have used her shot to win this

[OkaPoka]

Would like a chart of all mechanical claims and actions.

Night 1

Bitmap neighborizes Ankamius
Chemist neighborizes AaronFrost
ReasonablyRational neighborizes Chemist
Amrun friendlyneighbors GobbledyGook, success!
Hectic rolecops OkaPoka, - Vanilla
Espeonage Disloyal FriendlyNeighbors OkaPoka - OkaPoka didn't claim!
Pine rolecops Amrun - No result
Spiffeh is killed

Night 2

Chemist voyeurs Sherlock and Watson, no result
Pine rolecops Espeonage, no result
Espeonage disloyal friendlyneighbors Gobbledy, Gobble didn't claim!
Amrun actions S_W, no claim
Hectic uses JOAT shot on ???
Insomnia is killed

Night 3

Ankamius no action'd
Pine rolecops Ank, ??? unclaimed, "positive thing"
Espeonage friendly neighbors Ankamius, no claim
Amrun is killed

Claims, going to assume all JOATS have 3 abilities

TSE - Babysitter/Vengeful
Pine - Ascetic Enabler Ninja

Investigative

FlavorLeaf - "Mason"
Hectic - "Mason" + JOAT Rolecop/Tracker/Neighborizer
OkaPoka - Vanilla Townie
Espeonage - Ascetic Compulsive Disloyal Friendly Neighborizer
Sherlock and Watson - Vanilla Townie
AaronFrost = "Mason"
Gobbledygook = "Cop"/Not Vanilla
Ankamius = JOAT X1/X2/X3
RR =

Ascetic

JOAT Neighborizer/Y2/Y3

[OkaPoka]

he said it was "bp"

[OkaPoka]

man this is ironic

after spending this entire game trying to lynch flavor leaf i saved you

[OkaPoka]

i kinda hoped that pine would have no result so i could lynch u qq

[OkaPoka]

he didnt get no result

[OkaPoka]

he said it was a "positive" result and ank has never claimed ascetic

[OkaPoka]

ankamius i await a great case

[OkaPoka]

pine is probably town yeah

[OkaPoka]

VOTE: ankamius

[OkaPoka]

now that flavor is conf town suddenly everything he says is very swaying jesus

[OkaPoka]

OH SHIT WE HAVE 3 HOURS LEFT GUYS

[OkaPoka]

*hits blunt*

what if its espeonage

[OkaPoka]

espeonage did you target pine last night say yes please

[OkaPoka]

VOTE: hectic

maybe espeonage can solve this game

[OkaPoka]

its probably just RR actually their reads have been like substantially worse than randing reads

[OkaPoka]

espeonage who did u visit ;-;

[OkaPoka]

hold off until espy claims who he visited

[OkaPoka]

VOTE: rr

4 u my pp

[OkaPoka]

Absolutely dunked on

[OkaPoka]

Its ok we can strike that one from the books

[OkaPoka]

Wheel meta is 2020 meta

[OkaPoka]

Shoutout to titus for town leading in a fucking fantastic way

Shoutout to my conftown bros sw and flavor leaf

[OkaPoka]

Holy shit these pts are spicy

[OkaPoka]

It was a good design

Just very punishing for scum to lose a two joats in a row, you just lose so much power

[OkaPoka]

Titus sitting on a vig?

Ohhhh that makes sense now

I did not expect that, i was thinking that maybe pine was a third mason

[OkaPoka]

Although i am interested if ss would have ever made a mason have other abilities now that the game is over

[OkaPoka]

I think like all of town played well

Including u chemist, you got lynched from unfortunate circumstances of wrong place at the wrong time

But in the end your no result help solidified conftowning important slots

[OkaPoka]

I want to see the text log of scum chat ;_;

[OkaPoka]

Man maybe 1 year ago i wouldve been hyped as hell to play scum but I've become an ms boomer

[OkaPoka]

Yeah I imagine dealing with the fact that very few people both like to play scum and are good at it is hard to draft around :/

Also rude even if it's true

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We didn't use our hydra PT much after day 1 but you're welcome to see the hydra PT for me and Pengii

I redacted like 2 little things but I might critique some peoples reads here or there and didn't redact heavily, deal with it

https://discord.gg/Zcf9eyg

-S

good read

[OkaPoka]

HYPE

[OkaPoka]

*Claps*

[OkaPoka]

Pick 4 traitors and tell the mods make it mountainous you cowards

Pedit: what hectic said

[OkaPoka]

4 traitors all loyal neighborizers sit back n relax

[OkaPoka]

Although i wonder how a traitor would even be balanced

[OkaPoka]

I mean I think he was hoping for fake clears from your role

Like imagine i was scum and alisae told me this

Id be basically conf town

[OkaPoka]

Scum discord was a read and a half

[OkaPoka]

https://discord.gg/6ZpAXKR

[OkaPoka]

ALRIGHT OKA IS IT TIME FOR US TO HYDRA??

ITS TIME TO FIND A GAME LEZ GOOO

[OkaPoka]

actually bigger priority is workshopping some names

[OkaPoka]

ALRIGHT OKA IS IT TIME FOR US TO HYDRA??

ITS TIME TO FIND A GAME LEZ GOOO

There's like no good games in queue.

rc needs to release his fire emblem game asap

[OkaPoka]

ALRIGHT OKA IS IT TIME FOR US TO HYDRA??

ITS TIME TO FIND A GAME LEZ GOOO

There's like no good games in queue.

rc needs to release his fire emblem game asap

YOOO BET! I'll hydra with you there.

BET

[OkaPoka]

ALRIGHT OKA IS IT TIME FOR US TO HYDRA??

ITS TIME TO FIND A GAME LEZ GOOO

There's like no good games in queue.

rc needs to release his fire emblem game asap

YOOO BET! I'll hydra with you there.

What makes a good game to you guys?

Learning to be mod

Pedit:

I dunno, who were your teammates

Playerlist is usually the best

Setup is next

It varies though, i like to play open games that are pseudo mountainous or mountainous, maybe with some interesting mutations and typically i like to play with people that sign up for these type of games

[OkaPoka]

Drixx do you remember meee

[OkaPoka]

Welp strike this game from the record reroll

[OkaPoka]

Yep sorry guys but a rematch is the only soln and it needs to happen now

[OkaPoka]

Strongman isn't something that can be attached to a town role in normal games

Good thing the rules were worded so that players had fully Normal roles, and Titus could have

any

combination of Normal roles and modifiers

Fake news reroll

[OkaPoka]

Basically setup swingy but also with the constraints given you cant make a balanced and unswingy setup

[OkaPoka]

but thats 48 more hours of waiting for thread unlock ;-;

[OkaPoka]

i mean it was pretty doomed for scum from basically d2

i think every townie had at least two of <bitmap,af,rr> in their PoE even before mechanics kicked in

there isn't much alisae could've done other than hope town just implodes on itself and try and pick up the pieces