On the Flying Scumsman (Abandoned)

[egospray]

I am the true Ego.

[egospray]

I am not a Hydra. Two people have fused their egos to create me.

VOTE: despair night
I think your statement pagetop here is scummy.

[egospray]

/in to claim the script from the train which already is my property

[egospray]

JC please get DRK to post so that I can flirt with her.
-Bugspray

[egospray]

@mod are we allowed to bet in-game currency on chess games played in the game thread?

[egospray]

Can't believe this "-D" wants us gone already

-gb

[egospray]

DRK won't be posting this game because I'm better than her

-JC

No, she is the best.

[egospray]

Hopefully I can squeeze in some Hectic puns here and there

-gb

[egospray]

@mod are we allowed to bet in-game currency on chess games played in the game thread?

no

An absolute shame.

-Latios

(watch me have a bazillion posts by the end of D1 despite my normal crippling inability to handle alt and hydra games well)

Good job you pocketed me

[egospray]

searchers change your vote then you coward

[egospray]

yang x dn scum i ship it

[egospray]

Help me understand you language please. I’m lost.

everyone is houses man on fire joke book

-gb

[egospray]

Cappy is locktown for using gruyere

scumlocked for not using comte

[egospray]

What does the yellow purple triangle mean?

Sc

-gb

[egospray]

Equitable Androids (+2%): I like the vote in 130.

??? What did you like about it? It looks like a naked RVS.

-gb

[egospray]

It shows Towny transparency.

-gb

[egospray]

Is Latias Chemist?

-gb

[egospray]

Hectic is good boi, I can bet my life on it

-gb

[egospray]

Did Latias being Chemist change anything for you?

Sort of, i've played with Chemist once a while back so I can kind of see his writing style rn, but I can't get a good read yet.

Why is Hectic a good boi?

After deciphering Hectic's hieroglyphics, he seems a lot less aggressive than he was when I scumteamed with him during a marathon.

-gb

[egospray]

god damnit how r u people so fast

-gb

[egospray]

Ank are you gonna figure out the game like Fusion Mafia?

-gb

[egospray]

Gb r u trying to pocket ank? :3

yes

-gb

[egospray]

oh shit i forgot the game was happening thats 33 pages what the fuck

[egospray]

Im going to consult with the other half of my ego to help catch up

pedit: excuse me what the fuck

[egospray]

hectic do you have a post restriction?

[egospray]

didnt i literally say something about a game where the theme is every player has to do this kind ofthing where you collage peoples avatars in sitechat before

[egospray]

your read list is wrong because im town

[egospray]

i click No

[egospray]

I'm guessing you won the event lmao

-gb

[egospray]

TR

Mikoto and Kuroko (Bitmap and Farkran)

TL

Cappy (Hectic and Pink Ball)
Imperium (Nachomamma8 and Tammy)
Disaster Artists (John Cena and DeathRowKitty)
Equitable Androids (Gobbledygook and Titus)

Null

Black Hole Defection (popsofctown and Prism)
Unapologetically Foxy (Pine and xofelf)
Feminist Blocc (Datisi and Ausuka)
Blake x Yang (Alyssa the Lamb and Taly)
Despair Night (JunkoChan and insomnia)
NL (GuyInFreezer and MariaR)
Flavortown (Dr Easy Bake and Flavor Leaf)

Null

Smol Might (Eragon and Shadowlesscloud)
Latias and Latios (Chemist1422 and Gamma Emerald)
Spiffybringer (Spiffeh and Firebringer)

SL

The Searchers (SirCakez and Ircher)

SR

Is where i'm at right now. I really Like Mikoto's scumhunting, especially post 798. Scumreading The Searchers right now, because I don't really vibe with their earlier reads. As earlier, I said I meta TR Hectic based off the one time I scumteamed with him during a Marathon game. I really liked Imperium's posting, I thought their early posts felt Towny.


I'm still catching up so:

This post i didn't particularly like. People who played with me know how much i hate RVS, but in my experience and seeing the other posts from egospray i would expect a omgus vote as a reaction to feminist bloc in this stage.

What, from the one game we played?

Town post. I'm having the same thoughts.

Does scum usually not say this?

Gb how can u Con Vince us that u are not s/s or buddying hectic
I want three more spicy hot takes from u stat
-JC

1. Hectic felt really in your face in and direct to people. Almost like he was power playing and taking control. Here he feels like he's goofing off more right now.
2.3.
3.

I'm gonna talk it over with Bugs to see if they still scumread DN, but i'm not really seeing anything scummy by them so far. Also, if not signed by me, it's probably Bugs.

-gb

[egospray]

GB how should I feel about the fact that you have only made one meme image this game so far?

-JC

All of them are in my PT with Hectic

-gb

[egospray]

Minesweeper doesn't even come with Windows anymore :/

-gb

[egospray]

I will never understand what code names is

[egospray]

I will never understand what code names is

The best god damn party game that i'm pissed to miss

-gb

[egospray]

Spoiler:

-gb

[egospray]

No but people always think I am

[egospray]

George why are you still voting me?

~som

George signs his posts

[egospray]

wow da sig is pretty nice!!

[egospray]

tbh id policy lynch depair night for being annoying but george probably has better reads so i will allow his ego to bubble off while it is convenient for me

[egospray]

oh cool we still have that vote up im a baller

[egospray]

I hustled for that $2

-gb

[egospray]

ok ok sorry i'm catching up rn.

-gb

[egospray]

So for these two recent ones:

@gb head of Egospray; if you don't mind I'd like expansion on some of your reads: your Searcher read/Lati@s read/Despair read?

The Searcher/Despair debacle is really interesting, and I think it's most likely TvS. Bug scumreads Despair and I scumread Searcher, but it really feels like they're not both scum with the way they're shitpushing each other.

For Searcher,

In addition to what Ircher listed I have a couple other slight SRs but I'm not confident enough to out them atm

SC

Why allude an SR???
Yeah i'm still scumreading Searcher. I think a lot of their posts hone in on small details, making mountains out of molehills.

For Despair,

Their playstyle seems really aggressive, but I can't really tell if that aggressiveness comes from scum or not. I feel like it can be easy to mix up the two.

For Pokemon red and blue, I'm kind of null on them. After that readslist, their posts have been comments on posts with generic replies like "Yeah i like this" or, "this is good posting".

ex.

I like this from Spiffeh tbh

-Latios

But their recent argument about not being townread is interesting. I've only ever seen town ever get frustrated about not being townread, sounds more like Scum would act passive about it, or simply shirk it off to seem cool about it.

Is bug going to play in the main thread more today at some point george?

-JC

yeah, i'll try and brainstorm with them today.

For now, I think our vote is best placed here.

VOTE: The Searcher

-gb

[egospray]

What? Is this referring to one we've posted? I haven't made a read list in thread, only in our PT up to now, and I don't think Chemist has made one at all.

I meant between mine, and now.

-gb

[egospray]

:/ If you guys wont go with Searchers, then what about Smol might?

All but the last post was what was pinging me scum chemist, specifically the one about the scum game improving.

Pinged me the same as when he wolfed against me a few times in tos, the last post being what made me hesitate until i caught up fully and saw his random vote on me

His reason for Scumreading Latios doesn't really make sense. He's scumreading Latias because of how they play in ToS?

-gb

-gb

[egospray]

You're honestly saying you don't understand meta reads?

Completely different game, completely different format. It shouldn't qualify as a meta read.

-gb

[egospray]

My point is that it's a dishonest scumread based off meta that I don't think is applicable.

Have you played ToS? Playing scum is completely different than forum mafia.

-gb

[egospray]

You're not explaining how that alone makes someone scum though

Giving fake townreads early is usually scum trait

And I think that he was referring to ToS forums, not the actual game, which is basically the same thing as Mafia Scum / forum mafia.

Oh, well, uh, there goes my push.

So far they're still scumlean then. Looking through their ISO, they seem to barely push L&L, and keep trying meta Chemist. If that's the mistake I made, then I think Searchers is a better option then.

What do you think about Smol Might?

-gb

[egospray]

Am I the T or the S

-gb

[egospray]

Why do you think despair night is scum on your wagon?

I don't think Despair is that Scummy, but Bug does. I think Despair is null right now. Only because I think he's sort of a driving force for inactive slots right now. But i'm a little queasy on his slot since Cappy made a really good point on the interaction between DA and DN.

This interaction looks so fake lol

It really does. Their whole fight about Vigging looks a lot like scum theatre. Although I'm townleaning DA, so that's tinfoil theory I guess.

2) lhf

das me.

-gb

[egospray]

This doesn't really read like a scum read to me.

I think that was their cheeky way of saying they're still SRing you. They also admitted they were kinda lost so I think that's another cheeky way of saying they're still catching up.

As it Stands, I don't think you're the optimal lynch right now.

-gb

[egospray]

To clarify: do you think that DA vs DN could be SvS, or am i misinterpreting what you said about Cappy's post?

It's definitely possible, but I don't really have anything incriminating on either of them. So I can't scumcase DA purely off that. It's hard to explain, do you think the fight felt genuine?

This leads me to ask you though... why didn't you vote DA, if you think he can be scum? Why are you focusing your efforts on Smol Might as an alternative to DN?

Because I think Smol might is a slot that really needs to be pushed right now. We have 3 days till deadline (as you mentioned) and I think there are slots right now that are just plain unreadable. I mistook an aspect of their scumread, but I still think their push is disingenuous.


-gb

[egospray]

To reiterate, we are now 3 days to deadline and no wagon ever reached more than L-5, the highest have historically been 1. Despair Night, 2. Disaster Artists 3. Egospray. I'm confident that at least one of those three must be scum, while the other two are bait/counters.

I don't think we should be confining ourselves 3 slots right now. There's still time to create new wagons.


-gb

[egospray]

Different format just means you take it with a grain of salt. It by no means invalidates the read.

I mean, when the game is played completely differently, you're using half a grain of salt here. But he meant tos forums so my point is still void.

This feels like something scum would say...

Why? What would Town say if they've mistakenly pushed someone?

-gb

[egospray]

Why smol might and not, say, NL, or foxy, or equitable? I don't mean to say they are the same, but i'd like to hear why they are different to you

That's a very fair point!

I hate when people say this, because it's petty/passive aggressive as fuck (so, sorry), but I legit forgot NL existed. Studying their posts right now, the highlight of their ISO is:

Hey Titus if you neighbor me I promise to give you my reads and play the game. Otherwise, I'll go back to waiting for events
pedit: Ask nicely and point me to said question.

Equitable, in my opinion, has made a decent impact on the game. Equitable's catch-up was a sufficient comment on the game, and I don't really think they're lurkscum.

Foxy does seem under the radar, so that's another fair point. Their 899 was decent though. I just think they need to be pushed a little with good questions for them to get townie. I don't have any atm though.

-gb

[egospray]

Wording is everything. It gives off the impression, "Oops! I've been caught [pushing a fake read]! I better attempt to redeem myself!"

Well, I guess that depends on if you find my mistake disingenuous or not.

-gb

[egospray]

The lynchpool consists about 70% of reads and 30% of what lynches might benefit the town, as a whole, the most.

I mean I understand what you're going for, but you should never give yourself up as a lynch if you're Town. It seems LAMIST.

-gb

[egospray]

It's supposed to be digdug, right?

-gb

[egospray]

There's literally too many posts for me to keep up, it's insane.

pedit: yeah basically what D said

[egospray]

VOTE: Egospray this is not the lynch i want, but it's the lynch i can take. I still think that Egospray vs The Searchers is TvS and i'm afraid i'm on the wrong side of the vote, but i can work with fixing that another day. DA is still a good lynch but all his reads are pretty much the opposite of mine and i really don't know where they could possibly come from. Consider me still on DA if interest shifts.

This is such a slimey vote, what is this.

i'm afraid i'm on the wrong side of the vote, but i can work with fixing that another day.

You're literally admitting you think i'll flip green "but i'll work out the details later".

DA is still a good lynch but all his reads are pretty much the opposite of mine and i really don't know where they could possibly come from

He's a good lynch BUT he has opposite reads? Why is that a reason to doubt your read on him?

-gb

[egospray]

Is that... is that a real arm?

-gb

[egospray]

what page? -gb

[egospray]

-gb

[egospray]

wait no that isn't what that looks like

when do we say the things

-gb

[egospray]

Ay Daitisi, I know you probably wont read this but thanks a lot for all your help modding my first game! I honestly would have been lost. Your friendly demeanor and humour is one of the few reasons I log on every day. Also thanks for putting up with my Artbreeder stuff lmao.

-gb

I got so emotional I hydra slipped

-gb

[egospray]

- i'd say i consider him a lurker here along the lines of NL

I don't think the two are comparable. NL has almost nothing to go off of.

-gb

[egospray]

And I think Pinkball scammed us into pocketing each other.

-gb

[egospray]

Some of the stuff out of our hood looks like a Deviantart FanFic. It's great.

-gb

[egospray]

i'd appreciate expanding on this?

I can't remember what exact post it was, but Searcher was making a big deal out of stuff like discussing events and stuff.

-gb

[egospray]

That Flavortown post is town b/c I feel scum would be more inclined to tryhard the currency stuff to use it to their advantage. Also I just don't really want to deal with it myself and I can see another town feeling the same way.

SC

Something like this. Why wouldn't town want to maximize currency? What? I don't understand why Scum would be the only ones to do this.

I don't think that was the exact post, but it's something that pinged my read on them.

-gb

[egospray]

1. I'd NaeNae Searchers
Reasons for Scumreading stated. I think they're opportunistic in many ways
2. I'd Yeet NL
Lurker slot, sorry but you have an insanely low amount of posts for how far in this game is. It feels incredibly unfair lynch people who's put effort into sorting when slots like this can squeeze by.
3. I'd Kobe Foxy
Lurkslot, but less than NL So weakest shot.

I'm viewing this question like I have 3 vig shots, and I think vigging slots that are just plain unreadable is fair.

-gb

[egospray]

I can def do smol might actually

VOTE: Smol Might

Tbh I should have put them as one of my shots. I think his scumread on L&L still isn't genuine.

-gb

[egospray]

I wish I could sort Spiffy/Ego by being like "YO, TALK TO ME" but I think I've been non-existent to both hydrae.

Well, you haven't been non-existant. I just don't really know how to sort you. A lot of what you bring up is meta that I'm not familiar with.

I'm at an impasse with a few posts like:

This John Cena is virtually identical to the John Cena in Titus v Alisae.

I believe I have a good enough grasp of how Gobbledygook plays in order to be able to pick out when he's town and when he's scum posting.

John Cena should be transparently town by now even without the level of knowledge about how he thinks that I do.

-Blake

Alright, what are towntells for JC and Gobble?

-gb

[egospray]

Sorry sorry, I mix up heads very easily. I'm not used to playing with Hydras.

-gb

[egospray]

Well, then, Yang, is there anything you want to ask me in particular?

Also, Blake can you explain your meta reads further/is there a post where you did?

-gb

[egospray]

What if Blake is scum

[egospray]

Yang too

[egospray]

What who are you

[egospray]

Oh I know who you are

[egospray]

I know you're enter from that Hydra

[egospray]

I know you're enter from that Hydra

LOL

-yang

yeah, enter from the other hydra in myustery box

[egospray]

aka misa

[egospray]

If this is serious you have a major problem with reading comprehension

I'm pretty sure Bug was joking lmao, calm down.

-gb

[egospray]

1) Outline your reasons for voting and wanting to lynch Smol Might?

1) I think he should be pushed right now. (update on scumread for L&L, etc)
2) His vote on Latibros
3)

the issues i have with this is that no matter what alignment you have, your going to try to make it seem like your town from these answers, even if its nt 100% true. Theyre just not good questions.

If you have an issue with the answers, why did you answer them?

2) How do you feel about the corresponding top wagons currently Mitoko/Kuroko and Disaster Artists?

I've been Townreading M&K for a long while, but I just really thought their vote on us was shitty. At the time, I don't think there's much. There was like 2 votes on each person. I highly doubt scum was making their move then. You and DA were the only people on M&K at the time you asked this. And for DA, i'm still TLing them. I think their callout for Searcher's recent scuminess is +.

3) Would you change wagons if anyone acquired more votes? If so, who would you change to?

Yeah, I would honestly prefer RL and Searchers if they gained more traction. I think they all have high scum probability.

-gb

[egospray]

Why doesn't George just claim his role? We have a gravity surge thing drawing all actions anyway, he's safe for at least two nights.

The only thing that stops me from lynching him is his claim which I have no idea what it is or how it makes him town.

First, What claim? Second, why should I claim? Your wagon is as large as mine right now.

-gb

[egospray]

Because you're probably dying unless you claim.

We do have a hood, but i'm not full claiming right now. Claiming when I don't have to doesn't help town at all, and it only narrows who scum should NK when they get the chance.

-gb

[egospray]

I expect Smol Might and egospray are both scum currently.

Do you think i'm bussing my partner right now?

-gb

[egospray]

ok, why do you think scum!Ircher specifically would tell people to stop discussing events?

Seems like an easy and LAMIST thing to do. Of course people will stop discussing the event, they eventually end. I don't really see any reason for Town to get annoyed at people talking about a part of the game that's obviously important to the main thread.

-gb

[egospray]

what?

~fire

this is "mario party" the mafia game and you haven't been playing mario party

why you skipping out boiiii?

i want


i want waluigui

=gb

[egospray]

I'm like $5 away from a hood and it's the worse thing ever

-gb

[egospray]

is bug leaving you lonely?

-gb

[egospray]

what needs might that be?

5 dollars


(actually, I rechecked, and I actually need 3 )

Spoiler:

-gb

[egospray]

oh wait, cena does everyone in this thread know your main? i know some people have mentioned with that name, but not everyone reads in depth, do you care if i state the user i know you best by?

i think it would be quite a krazy experience.

Wait, i'm not playing against the real John Cena?

-gb

[egospray]

Because you're probably dying unless you claim.

We do have a hood, but i'm not full claiming right now. Claiming when I don't have to doesn't help town at all, and it only narrows who scum should NK when they get the chance.

-gb

There’s more to it though Ausuka, I feel like you sitting on the Searchers read is very easy content to fake as scum in this game state, you just keep shading them with questions and never say why they’re scum and just look elsewhere.

I’ll have a look at one of your town games and come to a conclusion myself.

Is this directed at Ausuka or me?

-gb

[egospray]

Why is the post above me blank?

-gb

[egospray]

I mean i'm mostly waiting on Smol Might to respond to their wagon. I can't really progress my read in them if they don't do anything.

-gb

[egospray]

Egospray (bugspray and GeorgeBailey) - still one of the best info lynches, but has improved since my past readlist and i want to trust cappy on this. I'd want to have a flip mostly to see what happens afterwards.

If I flip Scum/Town how would that change your reads?

I still don't understand why you keep saying there's all this info that can come from my lynch when the Smol Might wagon is the largest and fastest we've had today.

-gb

[egospray]

only less so.

Explain. Looking back, the people that voted me were: Spiffy, Despair, The Searchers. Two are on the Smol Might wagon right now, and one is pushing a smaller wagon.

I still don't see how my wagon is different from Smol Might's.

-gb

[egospray]

What makes Smol Might's disinterest different from Egospray's?

-Blake

You think i'm disinterested in the game?

-gb

[egospray]

Yes

k
-gb

[egospray]

you fucking tripped me out why did i think that was blake

-gb

[egospray]

Your wagon restarted when you had 0 votes, by 3 people who were mutually scumreading each other up to that point, who also refused to join the first instance of your wagon.

A lot of people that recently joined on smol might have basically given up with day 1 and only want to end the day because they're clueless - that's my interpretation of the current sentiment that pushes smol might, there isn't any particular confident scumread on the slot. It's a lurker slot, his flip will be useful to evaluate those who started the wagon if he's scum, won't be particularly effective if it flips town because everyone can easily say "eh, top wagon, close to deadline, we needed a flip and we picked wrong".

-Farkran

That's fair but I still think you're underestimating how much the Smol Might wagon gives. Since if this flips town, the people who have been hard pushing looks worse than those policy lynching.

I still think Smol Might has a good chance of flipping scum. And I don't think disinterest is AI.

-gb

[egospray]

Dinosaur

open the door
get on the floor

-gb

[egospray]

itus/ego/spiffy/smol... 4 people... less than 2 days.

mmmm.

RIP Gobble

-gb

[egospray]

People who are super Town, of course.

-gb

[egospray]

I would just like to say that egospray REALLY needs to die tomorrow

~Spiffy

That's pretty rude

-gb

[egospray]

Why do I have to die tomorrow?

-gb

[egospray]

You're taking something that might look a little weird on the surface (basing a read on ToS [Town of Salem?]) without really explaining what makes this more likely to come from scum than town

Because Scum usually needs someone to tunnel to look Town, and they usually come up with bullshit reasons to scumread people?

That's usually why questionable scumreads come from scum.

-gb

[egospray]

Also, why would I feel the need to make my head look like they're solving when there are so many other heads that are just blatantly not playing.

-gb

[egospray]

Does raise the question of how FB and Silver Bullet died though

Yeah, Silver looks like a vig shot, but shouldn't that have targeted Plusle?

-gb

[egospray]

???
Aren't Imperium pretty much conf!town now?

Would Maf not be able to do this?

-gb

[egospray]

/in gb

[egospray]

Pine

raking

in the cash

- gb

[egospray]

I picked macaronic and I still got fucking nothing ok.

-gb

[egospray]

English is FUCKED UP.

buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo

-gb

[egospray]

why did this event not have a first place prize?

That one would be kinda weird for first place since people could just not bet.

-gb

[egospray]

B) Looks like there was no limit, either. George had over $200 before losing it, I think?

No, I had about 40 bucks before losing half.

It's not really an elimination game so first, second, third wouldn't make sense.

-gb

[egospray]

wanna go back to egospray here

SC

Ye? What for?

-gb

[egospray]

/in gb

[egospray]

Absolutely. The question is why Smol over someone else wagoned, particularly the ones with 3-4 votes. Even if we disagree on those being vanity wagons, scum likely made a decision as to which wagon went through. Town are likely in that region as well.

~Titus

Are you suggesting Smol Might was a counter-wagon?

-gb

[egospray]

I don't trust Hectic's "I was robbed" claim, that's not AI and it's a good way to buy things on the sly without having to claim your purchases.

What makes you distrust it? In a game like this, a robbing mechanic sounds pretty likely. Plus, is anyone keeping track of purchases?

-gb

[egospray]

VOTE: Equitable Androids

I think I agree with FB that their naked vote on them seemed shady.

-gb

[egospray]

Alright, i'm sheeping Hectic. It's also possible EA's current vote on Foxy is for distancing, but the flip will probably speak for its self.

VOTE: Unapologetically Foxy

I don't think that Mikoto is a better alternative.

-gb

[egospray]

I feel like there's scum in {EA, Ego} based on how the wagons today went down. I think the EA wagon was very likely all-town unless Ego was scum on it, and it completely stagnated. If EA was really an all-town wagon on town, I don't think scum would have neglected the opportunity to use it.

I mean, that's assuming both scum aren't already on it. Which leads to stagnation as well.

-gb

[egospray]

But honestly, I don't think Mikoto flips scum here. Their push on Foxy does seem very survivalistic, but I think they've been acting Towny in the first half of the game.

-gb

[egospray]

I'm pretty much at the mercy of Hectic, he can sell me any time for money. I'm also in a hood with him.

-gb

[egospray]

I never really claimed it, but Hectic did.

CO Hectic, is there a way you can quantify how much Orange Star technique seems to appear in Tag Team egospray's CO Power?
Could you make up another power that's nothing like it, but equally unlikely for Black Hole to perform?
If it's not actually that much more likely for Black Hole to perform, but incredibly powerful when Orange Star has it, like CO Power Watcher, you could make up a weak power that would always belong to Orange Star instead.

It is kind of awkward for our battle's formations that disagreement about Tag Team egospray depends on this. Commanders developer much more progress when arguing about whether a battalion is maneuvering a black blitzkrieg or orange flying column.

Salutations, CO Lash. I will partially indulge you with the mechanics of his CO Power. CO GeorgeBailey has assigned and entrusted his Hit Points to me. At any time I please, I can delete him and gain 500 War Funds instantaneously. I won't comment on any other intel at this time.

Please keep in mind that opportunities multiply as they are seized.

-gb

[egospray]

Hectic sells a head, not the entire hydra.

-gb

[egospray]

Not really, since i'm town.

Why are you mad the person voting with you isn't getting off'd? You and Searcher seem to want me gone, but aren't voting me.

-gb

[egospray]

Though it seems #2 is not possible, so....

It is, but my other head has to be sold too.

....and Hectic didn't have this revelation till late into Day 2.
-gb