Doubles Mafia Day 2/ Day 2

[BBmolla]

UNVOTE:

[BBmolla]

omg you quickhammered

TH cant vote for elmo

I was kidding

[BBmolla]

VOTE: NM

[BBmolla]

Please do not have both games in night at the same time and unvote.

alright

UNVOTE:

[BBmolla]

ill be back when the other game is daytime I guess

unless mafia kill themselves in which case I'll be back postgame

[BBmolla]

Sorry I’ve been inactive. I’m having an off day. I’ll be back tomorrow.

[BBmolla]

VOTE: NSG

Fucking lol?

[BBmolla]

Can I vote now or what

Why the fuck did ya'll lynch before us

[BBmolla]

Can I vote now or what

Why the fuck did ya'll lynch before us

We can wagon but probably want to avoid hammer range. Who did you have in mind?
WANH and TH need to give final reads. I think they are likely to die by virtue of being large hydra. I think TH is more townie and dangerous now that I’ve got my head out of my butt to see it so I would appreciate it if they could give final reads in light of Titus flip.

I still think it's Elmo -> NM to win

Where you at in terms of reads Gobbles

[BBmolla]

I think Elmo too. I’m wondering about WW. Not sure I get the replacement when we were half way to victory at the time of the replacement. What is your read their Bb?

I liked them early but sometimes I mistake people being nice to me as people being town.

I think it's NM over Elmo personally, but everyone else wants to go Elmo first.

[BBmolla]

I think WW is town, just gut so I'm willing to be argued against it, but their through line makes sense and every time they post and I'm doubting they read super genuinely town to me

[BBmolla]

Why do you think it’s NM over Elmo? I recently played with NM town and NM scum and this looks more like NM town to me.

I had some small town pings from elmo, zero from NM

also he had that thing to throw shade on me because of what scum did in 2007 or some shit that was just garbage

why does this look like NM town to you?

[BBmolla]

if I quote a WW post 9/10 times it'd be scumhunting

[BBmolla]

What's your solve for both games gobbles

[BBmolla]

NSG has been super snarky this game and I interpret that as town, she seemed a lot more polite as scum

but I mean also as we know my meta experience with her is shallow

[BBmolla]

Gobbles you're absolutely convinced Churros is town?

[BBmolla]

oh well, i was town.

scum is baezu/wonderwall and gobble. gl

Lmfao yikes

[BBmolla]

Let Nero post another 100 posts and I’ll probably have a solid read

[BBmolla]

Gobbles explain why you think WW is scummy

[BBmolla]

Man what if it’s NM/Nero

[BBmolla]

no one SRs Gobble

Tbh this is what puts me off a Nero vote atm

Why would scum Nero replace in and then give that read

Idk

[BBmolla]

I thought he was townish but looking back it’s probably cause he was nice to me.

I still think Mastina/Churros slot is scum but no one believes me there so I’m just trying to find the partner.

Everyone else is pretty town so it was down to either your slot or NM

I prefer to go NM but everyone wanted to go your slot

So now I’m kind of twiddling my thumbs cause I kind of think you might be Town

[BBmolla]

I guess my only other thought towards you being scum is maybe you were coached to call gobbles scum to try to open up more mislynches but that’s kind of nonsense so idk

[BBmolla]

Just keep posting shit so I can get a better read ty

[BBmolla]

Btw if you are Town just a note that we only need 1 more scum lynch to win the game

[BBmolla]

Where the fuck is NSG

[BBmolla]

Just keep posting shit

rude

no like shit = content, not shit = your content is shit lmao

[BBmolla]

Yeah I've thought Trojan Horse was scum for a while, but nobody else agrees with me there either

it's like I'm on an island of lonely reads

[BBmolla]

no one SRs Gobble

Tbh this is what puts me off a Nero vote atm

Why would scum Nero replace in and then give that read

Idk

do you think at that point he would already have enough awareness of the gamestate to know not to make that read, if he were scum?

I imagine it would be brought up in the mafia thread somewhere?

like we all think Gobbles is town I would think that'd make him a threat

[BBmolla]

I imagine it would be brought up in the mafia thread somewhere?

It's not a requirement for scum to read the Mafia PT when they enter game thread, yes?
They can only read the PM (so they know their buddies) and then begin to post directly.
And start from a clean slate in the PT also.

-Stuxnet

that's fair

[BBmolla]

Will pick that convo back up right after massclaim
Whenever one from NSG or Yshtola makes a solve I'll just sheep that
Neither Nancy or I are super confident in anything rn.

Eve is my fav solve for Halloween

-Stuxnet

RC was town

am I reading a different game than everyone wtf is this

[BBmolla]

I guess Trojan Horse scum is just trying to open up their options lmfao

[BBmolla]

Ya'll sure we can't go NM instead of Nero

[BBmolla]

Either you are or I am. Lie Ren, Vecna and Titus flipped in our game, as scum, town and town.
RC was replaced by Eve, who's still posting and voting and stuff.
Right?

-Stuxnet

okay?

sorry I don't understand this post

[BBmolla]

yeah nvm calling Eve scum is really your only option isn't it lmfao

[BBmolla]

Can we PLEASE not waste a lynch on me

I’m town I have nothing to hide I’m literally playing stream of fucking consciousness

I’m not scum and if you lynch me we will lose this easily winnable game

I’ll go Nero if it’ll get NM lynched, I really fucking think with how hard it is to get his lynch he’s scum

Like this is fucking ridiculous

[BBmolla]

Like it’s been fucking Chrurros/NM/TH forever and yet you all are still letting them run the game

[BBmolla]

Gobbles you’ve SEEN my scum play this isn’t it

[BBmolla]

I hesitated on Nero because I truly fucking think he’s town and would prefer to fucking win

Any scenario that involves me getting lynched today is a town loss imo

[BBmolla]

Farside why the fuck are you voting me

[BBmolla]

I’ve also been fucking ready but to vote but I’ve been waiting for the other night to end cause at one point you guys threw a fit about it

Fuck man

[BBmolla]

@BBmolla: Why did you townread Lie Ren again?

My read on them was like my Elmo read, I thought they were townish early and then just kind of slotted them there

[BBmolla]

Churros is scum

But that lynch is hopeless to achieve sadly

[BBmolla]

We could ducking get her lurking partner NM but apparently Nero has to die first

Why the duck can’t you guys just read this game like I am

[BBmolla]

Guys I am not scum

Please

Can we PLEASE WIN YHIS GAME

[BBmolla]

We could ducking get her lurking partner NM but apparently Nero has to die first

Why the duck can’t you guys just read this game like I am

I'm a he, unless you're talking about NSG?

Your avatar is a girl so I assume girl I’ll gender you correctly

[BBmolla]

Look everyone was really fucking antsy to lynch the Elmo slot prior replacement and then they tried to push it through before you could post much

Why am I scum for wanting to get a better fucking read on Nero

Fucking ridiculous

[BBmolla]

VOTE: Not Mafia

[BBmolla]

Can we lynch scum yet

Sure self vote

[BBmolla]

Or bus

Either way

[BBmolla]

Nero I think the WW slot is town

It’d be really convenient if I could say otherwise but I can’t because I can’t make shit up cause I’m not scum

It’s Churros/NM/TH

[BBmolla]

That's not the full argument BB

Some just have an issue on how much AtE or sassy you're using, or doesn't like you defaulting Lie Ren to town.

I’m sorry I can’t handle how I read a lurking slot early in the gamE

I promise you if I was scum I could have had the forethought to plan better

[BBmolla]

I'm very amused on what stories you'll come up to if NM isn't scum and we're still here tomorrow

Who is my next buddy in that universe I wonder

Probably Farside but I’m pretty sure this lynch ends the game and she’s just Town with bad reads

[BBmolla]

Why is WW town?

Why is TH scum?

Short is gut

Short is Auro is full of shit

I can try to find more concrete stuff in a bit I’ve got to shower

Don’t fucking lynch me or I will scream from the deadthread

[BBmolla]

That's not the full argument BB

Some just have an issue on how much AtE or sassy you're using, or doesn't like you defaulting Lie Ren to town.

AtE and sass is the definition of my townplay

I’m not a good player but whatever I can do to prevent the lynch of the only town person I know for sure I will do

[BBmolla]

He tried to hammer your slot but it failed since one of the votes was fake/from another game

And yet you don’t want to lynch him

[BBmolla]

Just out of the shower but the big thing for TH is their reads are made up as fuck and Auro keeps doing this “muahaha if I was scum
I’d be so clever to post this ” posts that I don’t recall ever in TM

He’s like a really bad 1930s villain

[BBmolla]

now who does WANH kill implicate...

No one it's the obvious kill?

I wonder who made it

Hmmmmmmm

[BBmolla]

Quote all you want Churros we’re at the fucking point where we can actually lynch him and you’re refusing

[BBmolla]

We should lynch again in Halloween to get to 1/3 so that we all can analyze only three people to for their interactions with Lie Ren and then the people in our game. I will not be voting anyone else in Christmas until Halloween lynches again

((

[BBmolla]

I’m legit worried that scum have like stupid high numbers to counteract this very townsided wincondition

possibly fake townslip

VOTE: sircakez

Wonderwall's content has immediately pinged me as more likely to come from them as scum than town. I lowkey suspect that Menalque is burned out from getting too many scum role PMs, and his play this game looks like he has done precisely that; gotten burned out, struggling to care, struggling to stay invested in his alignment, and if he were town I would expect there to be an energy to him finally not being scum. Plus, there's the whole general lack of Alisae.

Why am I more likely to be burned out scum than burned out town?

Also why do you think lack of ali is telling?

-wall

I mean go check my iso that game mastina and you’ll see that I very much did not duke it out with micc in the lylo — I basically just said “micc is a ninja/strongman, vote him my iso speaks for itself”

Other than that I had a relatively unpleasant scumgsme in Hungarian mafia but other than that I haven’t actually played scum for a while and I died immediately in team mafia so like I don’t think your “burned out on scum” theory makes any sense

Vs this just being my general effortposting variance across games. Like I’m not burned out bc of what happens to me as either alignment really, it’s more about burnout from mood. I can’t explain it super well

I mean also yeah, ali and I talked about how to enjoy rhe game on discord the other day which I already acknowledged I thread? Go check the sign up thread and you can see we talking about being busy and how I’d have to do most of the ~*playing*~ and that e would mostly be there to try and teach me to enjoy large themes

-wall

It’s worth going back and looking at my towngames seeing as you’ve only played with scum!me tho, to try and get a baseline for how often I ask about stuff you think town wouldn’t care about

-wall

these all ping me as town

The big thing is WW was concerned with why people read them the way they did and I think that comes from a town place personally

I like Wonderwall for town.

Why?

Turkey why didn’t you say hi yet?

-wall

I mean that's not the only time they townread me

If scum gameplan is to prop up Mastina as town leader and have her overrule correct scumreads like I believe that it is cakez doesn't fit on that team; if that's not the scumteam we are looking at I have to reeval cakes

Why do you think this is the scumplan?

It’s skeeving me out a bit that you’re being this cooperative but I don’t scumread you

You just feel different here to any time I think I’ve played with you or read your games before

-wall

Aside from us who do you think is scummy?

-wall

Why don’t you read me as town RC

-wall

I am not 100% sure on any of this

but it seems like Christmas starting townblock is something like

Bbmolla, Gobbles, NSG, WONDERWALLL

FTFY

and like posts like these

Idk I think I need to have confidence in myself to play mafia and rn I don’t feel like I’m very good and I’m having a lot of doubts that I’m actually any better than random

-wall

gobbles who is scum?

-wall

does churros/molla make sense to you or do you think that churros working against molla!town is beyond bussing?

like there isn't a single smoking gun reason why WW is town it's just this overall feeling that this person is genuinely trying to create unity and work towards finding scum

[BBmolla]

like does anyone read that ISO and think it's scum? If so, how?

[BBmolla]

Either you lynch some scum and I win without actually doing anything of importance or you get to xylo and we start playing the game while putting yours on hold, using the comments from people in my game on your game to place everyone

Nice theater

-Stuxnet

this is essentially my scumcase against TH

And churrosmastina for that matter

[BBmolla]

I think you are wrong on TH. I think you are prob right on Churrostina

what makes you think TH is town?

[BBmolla]

Titus replaces GiF.

NNNNOOOOOOO!!

I don't know whether I hoping titus is town or scum. Either way it will be a fight.

Did anyone get lynched on the halloween side?

Does anyone think that Farside really doesn't know that someone got lynched or not?

The Titus replaces GiF post isn't far away from the flip, and she coincidentally, for the first time in the game, asked if someone was lynched exactly in the halloween game.

SHE ALREADY KNOWS SOMEONE GOT LYNCHED AND IS TRYING TO PLAY NAIVE

I'm pretty sure Lie wasn't a SR from her before either

god damn

looking through Churros ISO

lmfao

[BBmolla]

that's not edited btw that's how big the font was

[BBmolla]

I could see it being Titus if it's not Cakez

[BBmolla]

I don't think it's a good time to out the masons

[BBmolla]

I've thought NSG is town longer than most

I still don't think it's a good time to out masons.

[BBmolla]

I think you are wrong on TH. I think you are prob right on Churrostina

what makes you think TH is town?

gut mainly. Maybe Nancy pocketed me. As annoying as he is, this feels similar to green pm Auro. Full disclosure, I've never played with scum Auro. As scum, Nancy does

AtE

really hard and maybe she's doing that. IDK. Baezu still feels like the scummiest to me, idk. Did we already talk about her? (Baezu)

Have you played with Baezu? I thought she seemed genuine and town, but I've never played with her and my expectations are low.

If I'm wrong on TH that's probably where I'd put my money

[BBmolla]

I would kind of like to wait for a WW replacement, I think that slot is town and it'd be nice to have another voice back in Christmas

[BBmolla]

nsg,

what do u think of Churros scum reading NM for all/some portion of the game but not wanting to vote there when there's momentum?

plot twist

VOTE: NM

[BBmolla]

Have you played with Baezu? I thought she seemed genuine and town, but I've never played with her and my expectations are low.

I have, as both alignments. I wanted to sit down and compare her ISO to Boon Wars (she was scum in that game)

lemme know what you find brotha

[BBmolla]

Im scum reading you.
There was no interaction between you and dead scum for another.

I can't do anything about that, I'm sorry next time I'm town I'll try to interact with the scum more

[BBmolla]

VOTE: Nero

Out of respect for you I'm gonna vote Nero before BB NSG.

uh

you slipped

lmao

[BBmolla]

Churros how many scum do town need to lynch to win the game?

Win meaning ending the game

[BBmolla]

genuinely curious if you know

[BBmolla]

Welcome, [PLAYERNAME], to Doubles Mafia. You have chosen to be a part of Game [GAMENAME].

You are a Vanilla Townie, with all the rights and responsibilities implied by such a powerful station. You may address your fellow players at any time, day or night, in the game thread, located here, as long as you are alive.

You, and the rest of the TOWN faction,

win when at least two members of the MAFIA faction are dead, regardless of whether they were players in your game.

Please confirm by PMing my your role name and the name of the game you are in.

VOTE: Churros

[BBmolla]

Molla that isn't a scumslip

we only need one more scum to win but she said she'd vote Nero before me, when her theory is we're both scum

?

[BBmolla]

like she's made it clear that Nero scum = BB scum no?

[BBmolla]

I see what you're saying NSG but if Churros seriously believes Nero and I are the scumteam what she says makes no sense having received a town PM

[BBmolla]

no wait

5

also why did she try to awkwardly cover it

[BBmolla]

I even said that maybe it was Cakez if it's not you

you're bonkers

I'm confident but there's no such thing as 100%

confident is good enough though.

that doesn't even make sense

the other scum with Nero in xmas could be Cakez instead of me?

[BBmolla]

did I miss a post where you theorized who else could be scum with Nero in xmas

like all I've seen is you pairing us together

[BBmolla]

I'll drop it, whatever

[BBmolla]

Why is it you treat me like im town, but if nm is town you will lynch me?

I really think NM is scum I'll start there

but look who else is out there

gobbles is town

nsg is town

ww is town

Nero/Churros is exceedingly unlikely

Farside/Churros would be the only other pairing that makes remote sense to me

[BBmolla]

Explain day 1 with that thought process.

?

like what do you mean

[BBmolla]

Explain day 1 with that thought process.

?

like what do you mean

Mastina and I were at odds. I was voting her for awhile there and unvoted when I thought it Mastina's vote was bs.

I know it's been a long week and all but putting pairs together for the sake of putting things together doesn't exactly ring like you are trying to figure jack shit out.

I don't think you're scum so I'd rather not waste time going down that route tbqh

[BBmolla]

I think Eve is town have I not said that

I've said RC is town which means Eve is town

[BBmolla]

TH did I towntell in TM

and if so what have I done there that I haven't here

cause imo I'm playing like the same fucking gaame

[BBmolla]

or is that nancy saying that

[BBmolla]

We should wait for a wonderwall replacement

I wouldn't mind a lynch in Halloween before us

If mafia has some fucking stupid role that let's them win when we do that I'll just fucking scream at Jingkle

[BBmolla]

Either you lynch some scum and I win without actually doing anything of importance or you get to xylo and we start playing the game while putting yours on hold, using the comments from people in my game on your game to place everyone

Nice theater

-Stuxnet

this is essentially my scumcase against TH

And churrosmastina for that matter

Why aren’t you commenting on a single one of MY posts? For quick and easy reference, mine are the ones that are either unsigned or signed “N”. You’re welcome.

I’ll look

I just played with Auro so his play seems more familiar

With my lady so nothing for now

[BBmolla]

busy today, back tomorrow

[BBmolla]

Checking in

NM's whack claim only makes my vote harder

He's scum Gobbles

[BBmolla]

NSG is town just vote

[BBmolla]

NSG is town just vote

why do u want gobble to hammer when u could?


cakez: if NM is scum it doesn't really matter who is buddies are.

I thought I was already voting NM

VOTE: NM

It's five to lynch though

[BBmolla]

incoming Churros unvote just saying

[BBmolla]

holy fuck what if it is Gobbles/NM

that'd be fucking bonkers

[BBmolla]

I lied about the tracker bit, I'm a day, odd night, even night VT, I'm a VT

lol

[BBmolla]

Gobbles what realistic scenario is NM town here

[BBmolla]

is gobbles just openly like "ya im scum but lemme just get one more mislynch haha"

[BBmolla]

damn bb

why you messed my solve with awful bussing...

I thought it was one active slot + one lurky slot in the [BB, Farside, NM, Elmo]. If you had voted Elmo like you were supposed to as described in your wincon, I would have got BB/NM right since I thought you were more likely scum than Farside.

very sad

don't push town wincon as scum in a no-bussing setup guys...

If we had gotten Elmo lynched there was a possible path to victory

I played to my wincon, nobody respected my reads so what better place to put my partner than in my scumreads

[BBmolla]

Good game, this game was depressing

[BBmolla]

sorry bb

we had a chance if I hadn't committed to the fluff lol

You were nailing it I just kind of let things unravel lmfao

[BBmolla]

I think you could have maybe got me lynched like right when I first replaced in.

I think scums main path was to win in Halloween and you guys should have followed Gobble there.

My fuckup was playing with the Elmo lynch, shoulda just gone with it to get it through

[BBmolla]

I genuinely thought it’d make you look worse if I townread you but then everyone followed suit you Townie bastard

[BBmolla]

Gamma played fine

I'm only still a bit in disbelief that BB had so many other wagons to join but persistently choose his buddy one away from defeat.

It's such...puzzling play. BB, when you get here, what were you thinking persistently voting NM today...? (It wasn't only once, he insisted on NM multiple times)

You had...so many opportunities to go elsewhere.

so many...

why...

...why...

if you think about it, if BB hadn't bussed, we would probably not have reached L-1 in NM, he wouldn't have claimed in such a nonsense way, and he might not even be lynched since people wanted to do halloween first.

The game ending this early...is because scum bussed themselves when they had 0, exactly 0 incentive, to do so. They had even a shot on winning in halloween, and pushing me would be pretty good once cakez/eve flipped town.

why...

I'm in a spiral to understand this...

Look back at the parts where the teams were set as Me/Nero Churros/NM

The goal was to make it one of the town vs scum on the other side

Which turned into scum vs scum

Which meant sure, I could unvote and believe that NM is suddenly town

But not in a believable way, and then we would have to wait for the WW person to replace in

If the bus had worked it would have been a game winning play

But it didn’t

So my bad NM and Yshtola

[BBmolla]

Like look back at how many successful lynches I had this game, once I said something was scum it became tainted

[BBmolla]

Also sorry if anything I said upset you Mastina I was literally just trying to push your lynch through

[BBmolla]

Gamma played fine

I'm only still a bit in disbelief that BB had so many other wagons to join but persistently choose his buddy one away from defeat.

It's such...puzzling play. BB, when you get here, what were you thinking persistently voting NM today...? (It wasn't only once, he insisted on NM multiple times)

You had...so many opportunities to go elsewhere.

so many...

why...

...why...

if you think about it, if BB hadn't bussed, we would probably not have reached L-1 in NM, he wouldn't have claimed in such a nonsense way, and he might not even be lynched since people wanted to do halloween first.

The game ending this early...is because scum bussed themselves when they had 0, exactly 0 incentive, to do so. They had even a shot on winning in halloween, and pushing me would be pretty good once cakez/eve flipped town.

why...

I'm in a spiral to understand this...

Look back at the parts where the teams were set as Me/Nero Churros/NM

The goal was to make it one of the town vs scum on the other side

Which turned into scum vs scum

Which meant sure, I could unvote and believe that NM is suddenly town

But not in a believable way, and then we would have to wait for the WW person to replace in

If the bus had worked it would have been a game winning play

But it didn’t

So my bad NM and Yshtola

I see what you might be going for but that was really a lot more risky/low reward in my opinion than getting Elmo lynch when I wagoned him and later 1v1 with me or going along with gobbles, flipping Cakez and discrediting me later.

But hm, I understand your pov.

I was trying to plan ahead, needed two lynches and only had one. Instead of creating another I lost one lmfao

[BBmolla]

Well played town, while the setup was townsided you won pretty handily without having to rely on any power

Thanks for the game Jingle, I had fun

[BBmolla]

Also sorry if anything I said upset you Mastina I was literally just trying to push your lynch through

Oh you being scum erases all the hard feelings, literally everything about me being upset about you was being so sure you were town and yet you having that tunneled scumread on me. You being scum gives that action the explanation that you were just scum, playing to your wincon, because coasting off of a tunnel on my slot meant you didn't need to give reads on many others.

Glad to hear, hope we play again soon