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I was gonna read this and actually play but of course the hydra I was explicitly not told the identity of pregame is immediately being a complete dipshit
Vote: Cena and SavageI'm not reading past the second page until this slot is gone or this person is replaced, k thxSometimes a sandwich is just a sandwich.-
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Scot don't replace. Only reason I didn't want to replace is because reck, ut, kk, Scot and BM are here. But I'm not playing with Cena/Savage. Dude is absurdly obnoxious and Alisae being like "lol they're my friend, this is great, ur being scum" is kind of ridiculous.
People wonder why so few people play mafia on this site anymore, it's because of garbage like this. And instead of just lynching people that are obnoxious and showing them that their behavior is not acceptable, it seems to have become site meta to be so insufferable that you can game the system. The only lynches that I'll consider are on people that make the game significantly less fun by existing. I'd rather play with people I like then win.
So yeah. The obnoxious people need to go.Sometimes a sandwich is just a sandwich.-
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The identity isn't the issue, it's their behavior. Although, I *suspect* they wouldn't act this way if they weren't anonymous had to have some modicum of accountability. I mentioned lack of identity because that was the first clue this person was going to be awful.In post 244, Ramcius wrote:
What would be different, if you knew c&s identities?In post 239, PJ. wrote:Scot don't replace. Only reason I didn't want to replace is because reck, ut, kk, Scot and BM are here. But I'm not playing with Cena/Savage. Dude is absurdly obnoxious and Alisae being like "lol they're my friend, this is great, ur being scum" is kind of ridiculous.
People wonder why so few people play mafia on this site anymore, it's because of garbage like this. And instead of just lynching people that are obnoxious and showing them that their behavior is not acceptable, it seems to have become site meta to be so insufferable that you can game the system. The only lynches that I'll consider are on people that make the game significantly less fun by existing. I'd rather play with people I like then win.
So yeah. The obnoxious people need to go.
Also, you're being more obnoxious than they areSometimes a sandwich is just a sandwich.-
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In post 242, Flavor Leaf wrote:Also, Cena and Savage are hidden identities, but they were using meta earlier on me, weren’t they?
Lol, yeah, I’m with you lot. Down with Cena and Savage!!! (For me in a scum way, though)
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Except that hiding one's identity is a clear and obvious advantage and shouldn't be something withheld and people asking for it shouldn't be taunted.
I.e in this very game, DGB would be regarded more highly by at least one player if they were playing anonymously.
The person is basically getting the benefits of playing under an alt, the benefits of playing under as a hydra, and bring kind of a tool on top of it. Get this goon out I'd here.Sometimes a sandwich is just a sandwich.-
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Yet you still insist on hydra-ing and ruining games. Good to know. Can you replace out yet or do you have a quota of how annoying you have to be before you do?In post 254, Cena and Savage wrote:
Oh no, my prod on you wasn't meant to be out of frustration, I wanted to see your reaction. I think people are finding the responses of this hydra to be more serious than they are.In post 253, Ramcius wrote:
I'm pretty sure they complained about my RVS on them, so it's on me for not thinking through before making that jokeIn post 250, PJ. wrote:Also having the audacity to complain to the mod when they are the asshole has honestly moved this beyond something I'm willing to let go.
As for their anonymity - I'm here to play mafia, not meta simulator, so I will judge them for what they do, not for who they are. Sometimes people just want to play mafia without being haunted by their past
I'll be honest and say that I am bored of people who have immediate issues with hydra because there's always at least 1 in a game, and both town/scum do this, and it immediately corrodes town cohesion and game health.
So, to help find a difference, I "pushed" you for a reason, you felt genuine. 15 and 17. My head and I believe Page 1 interactions can be very solid, so we intentionally said things that would get people's attention.
We figured you (Ramcius) were coming from a town mindset who wasn't going to push-down on an idea whichpeople would actually use to lynch us, and have attempted to understand a viewpoint.
And why were less sure on KK, because while his ire toward this hydra could be true on his past experiences, it's an incredibly easy stance to manufacture. It's less truthworthy, and doubling-down before reassessing didn't appear town-indicative.Sometimes a sandwich is just a sandwich.-
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I'm pretty sure we went over that I don't care if they are scum or not? Almost positive we went over this.In post 369, Ramcius wrote:
Why Cena is scum?In post 367, PJ. wrote:Bm doing the lord's work. I'm in on all those lunches after we lynch cena
Also, BM isn't doing lord's work, didn't his argument about Dre complaining about being mislynched often instead of saying lynched pinged you? Cause it sure did pinged me
I thought BM was well-reasoned? I also definitely skimmed it. Because again, I'm on team policy lynch the hydras until it happens and that will be my stance until they die or I die.Sometimes a sandwich is just a sandwich.-
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In post 384, Ramcius wrote:
2 slots that are trying to play or a 1 slot that throwing tantrum? I'm fine with using my finisher on you tonight, if we can get more people interestedIn post 381, PJ. wrote:
I'm pretty sure we went over that I don't care if they are scum or not? Almost positive we went over this.In post 369, Ramcius wrote:
Why Cena is scum?In post 367, PJ. wrote:Bm doing the lord's work. I'm in on all those lunches after we lynch cena
Also, BM isn't doing lord's work, didn't his argument about Dre complaining about being mislynched often instead of saying lynched pinged you? Cause it sure did pinged me
I thought BM was well-reasoned? I also definitely skimmed it. Because again, I'm on team policy lynch the hydras until it happens and that will be my stance until they die or I die.Sometimes a sandwich is just a sandwich.-
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Ok, I know this means little coming from me because I've openly said I want to policy lynch Cena and Savage, but the last 2 pages in which they are trying to coach everyone into vig teams and suddenly claimed Mason is probably the most brazenly scummy thing I've ever seen. Wild that I wanted to policy lynch scum, now I just want to regular lynch scum.Sometimes a sandwich is just a sandwich.-
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Because the scum is dictating it. In what world does a town player try to direct the night actions of ~16 players, including some lurkers.In post 478, chennisden wrote:And scum doesn't fuck with this plan because?Sometimes a sandwich is just a sandwich.-
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Scum 2 here.In post 475, gobbledygook wrote:There really is no reason to not do this plan. It forces scum to either abide by the plan and forfeit their night action or break it and then confirm themselves as scum within a group.
How do you know that Scum can't use the finisher mechanic and their night action(this is common in a lot of these heavy mechanic games)?
Why wouldn't you acknowledge that town power roles could also be forfeiting their night action?
How would you differentiate between a town PR that doesn't forfeit their action vs a scum that doesn't?Sometimes a sandwich is just a sandwich.-
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Probably. But between Alisae assuring us that everything is fine and the secret hydra trying to dictate like 16 night actions, it's pretty incredibly how we can even consider lynching not those two people.In post 493, chennisden wrote:$10 a large part of D1 will get dictated by Cena and gang
Also, can we get a rules check on this BTW, because I'm not sure that this isn't against the rules. Alisae secretly knows this persons identity and tells us it's within their town range, while the secret hydra dictates night actions for the entire game? That's gotta be breaking rules regarding coming into the game with previous deals/agreements/information/etc.Sometimes a sandwich is just a sandwich.-
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I read the last 2 pages, because it seemed like a lot pages showed up, I was hoping it was something good. It was. Cena and You are just awful scum.In post 501, Wondertank wrote:
ohIn post 468, PJ. wrote:Ok, I know this means little coming from me because I've openly said I want to policy lynch Cena and Savage, but the last 2 pages in which they are trying to coach everyone into vig teams and suddenly claimed Mason is probably the most brazenly scummy thing I've ever seen. Wild that I wanted to policy lynch scum, now I just want to regular lynch scum.
so you ARE reading the game
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Basically what happened to me. Also those posts are detailing a plan in which they dictate the entire games night actions.In post 507, Untrod Tripod wrote:I love when I open the thread and find that like 30 of the last 50 posts are by the same personSometimes a sandwich is just a sandwich.-
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How do you do nothing but play mafia but still be so ridiculously bad at it.In post 506, Wondertank wrote:If you define scum as holding you accountable for generally being scummy, then sign me up!
If I had a dime for every time you were good a mafia, I'd have ZERO! dimes.
If this wasn't legitmately the most brazen attempt of scum ever to control a game, I would of just carried on not really caring.
Also, I like how you're like, "oh panzer not playing the game is scummy" and then when I do engage you're like "panzer engaging with the game is scummy". Man...it's incredible. "Why am I annoying!?!?1"
Pedit: Jesus christ. I'm asking UT by the way, not our mod because I already find them to be incompetent by even letting you 2 play, because I'm genuinely concerned there is site rules being broken here.Sometimes a sandwich is just a sandwich.-
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In short, you don't know fucking anything and are still advocating for something scum could potentially work around. TrY rEaDiNg NeXt TiMeIn post 516, gobbledygook wrote:
I asked the mod about multitasking being default and he said that multitasking is not default and would be on roles if they had any. I'm not sure if all scum are multitasking, but I doubt it.In post 490, PJ. wrote:
Scum 2 here.In post 475, gobbledygook wrote:There really is no reason to not do this plan. It forces scum to either abide by the plan and forfeit their night action or break it and then confirm themselves as scum within a group.
How do you know that Scum can't use the finisher mechanic and their night action(this is common in a lot of these heavy mechanic games)?
Why wouldn't you acknowledge that town power roles could also be forfeiting their night action?
How would you differentiate between a town PR that doesn't forfeit their action vs a scum that doesn't?
I explained this already, so try reading next time.Sometimes a sandwich is just a sandwich.-
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if you think this is about a disagreement, you are dumber than you soundIn post 537, gobbledygook wrote:
Disagreeing with someone in a mafia game does not allow you be mean to people, fyiIn post 536, PJ. wrote:I'm only mean to people that deserve it, which most of you qualify.Sometimes a sandwich is just a sandwich.-
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if i wanted to be replaced, i'd just get replaced, you f goon.
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they literally told you in thread why.In post 553, Wondertank wrote:
because we wanted to hydra?In post 549, PJ. wrote:you and your friend are actively inhibiting the fun of other players and that's why you deserve me to be mean to you.Sometimes a sandwich is just a sandwich.-
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idk who lavender is and I don't really care?In post 552, Cena and Savage wrote:Panzer what's your meta read of lavender?Sometimes a sandwich is just a sandwich.-
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No, I'm saying that you're abusing the benefits of being a hydra and an alt, while being obnoxious AND scummy af. You are gaming the system intentionally then wondering why people are upset/replacing out. It's because you're a game ruiner. and a fun ruiner.
Lavender seems like a new player? and if they aren't color me tricked. I don't find them to be abusing the fgact that they are an alt even if they were.Sometimes a sandwich is just a sandwich.-
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oh hey, reported.In post 557, Cena and Savage wrote:I mean one might say you were a whiny little bitch
I wouldn't say that
I'm a classy guy
But someone else might say that
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Are you being intentional obtuse or nah?In post 561, Cena and Savage wrote:Oh you honestly care about vig shots but don't actually know who is playing the game?
Mmmkaay
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Also how can I know who's playing the game when you're hiding your identity. Seems like a very weird line of questioning?
And I don't care about vig shots, I care about scum actively trying to direct night actions.Sometimes a sandwich is just a sandwich.-
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I find it hilarious how lack of self-awareness you are.In post 562, Cena and Savage wrote:
I'm glad you agree there should be moderator intervention in cases of toxicity.In post 559, PJ. wrote:oh hey, reported.
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WhY Am I aNnOyInG pAnZeR?!?!In post 566, Wondertank wrote:
Well Panzer, you can go to the first post on the first page of the thread and look for yourself uwuIn post 563, PJ. wrote:Also how can I know who's playing the game when you're hiding your identity. Seems like a very weird line of questioning?Sometimes a sandwich is just a sandwich.-
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He's falsely equating me not being able to meta lavender with me taking offense to the fact that he's cheesing the game and actively ruining it, while also being incredibly scummy.(which apparently is a pretty good tactic, 3 people have replaced due to their behavior, including getting sheep-you, and less than a quarter of the game is actively posting and it looks like they are going to railroad AND get to control all the vigs with very little resistance) I wish I were scum so I could get advantage from being a (possibly) cheating game-ruiner.In post 569, gobbledygook wrote:
What kind of question is this lmaoIn post 552, Cena and Savage wrote:Panzer what's your meta read of lavender?
Does Panzer play with Lavender?Sometimes a sandwich is just a sandwich.-
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Over half the game hasn't posted anything of substance. I'm incluiding Alisae in this, tbh.In post 573, Cena and Savage wrote:
You just said you don't know who lavender is. You don't have reads on most of the list. You aren't trying to form reads on most of the list. You're arguing mech points without thinking of the consequences of the mech arguments. You're arguing basically you can't find 5 slots you think have a good chance of being scum this game and don't believe town CAN find five slots that need to die night 1. That's your argument.In post 563, PJ. wrote:Also how can I know who's playing the game when you're hiding your identity. Seems like a very weird line of questioning?
You keep arguing I'm hiding my identity but I've already said no one in this list knows me other than Boon, who I think is scum anyway. You don't know me and you're not going to get to know me since regardless of your alignment this is the last game you will share with me. If I came out and was like "oh yeah I'm JasonT1981" that would make 0 fucking difference to you or your read of me. (I'm not). So all you are doing is whining over and over like a widdle baby
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Are you not? That seems irrelevant to my point? I'm not crying, you're actively breaking site rules by cheating and being toxic. I'm simply the only one willing to say it and not just immediately replace out. I repeat, you've forced 3 replacements due to your poor behavior.
You're also INCREDIBLY SCUMMY. I like how you completely disregard the fact that I have stated I am now vcoting you because you are brazen scum, and keep going back to the me "whining about not know who you are". I don't need to know who you are tyo think directing 3/4ths of this lurker ass game is scummy as fuck.Sometimes a sandwich is just a sandwich.-
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In post 577, Cena and Savage wrote:Literally the only person ruining this game is you
You went all in on policy lynch bullshit
You reevaluated nothing
You constantly insult everyone
You accuse people of cheating
You constantly insist almost nothing you do this game has anything to do with the game
But in all this you so totally lack self-awareness that you think the person who is just playing the game fucking normally is "cheesing" and "ruining" it?
The people who replaced out replaced out because you started throwing a tantrum and they no longer wanted to be in the game. I was the object of your tantrum but from what I can tell you would be throwing a tantrum here no matter what.
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Yeah, that's fine and not against site rules
Why do I need yo reevaluate when I'm right?
by everyone, you mean you and your friend alisae.
by people, you mean you.
I'm insisting that that i'm finding you scum for your actions in this game and you are actively ignoring it.
The people that replaced out literally said verbatim that they do not want to play with you. Iso KK and Scotmany.Sometimes a sandwich is just a sandwich.-
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and because I apparently have no reads on the game
Flavor Leaf - normal weird boon stuff. not sure if town or scum but that can wait
Panzerjager - town with battle mage
hiplop not posting
xRECKONERx - not posting
Espressojet KidAmn - not posting
Emperor flippyNips - no content
Lavender - no content
Wondertank (Alisae and Insomnia) - thread shitter that has posted very little actual substance per usual
gobbledygook scotmany12 - seems to be actively scum/with you
chennisden - Seems fin
DrippingGoofball - normal DGBehavior
Untrod Tripod - not posting
Egix96 Kublai Khan - not posting
KuroiXHF - not posting
BullDunne - not posting
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Cena and Savage (Unknown Hydra) - fucking clown scum
Ramcius - No content aside from saying i shouldn't policy lynch you
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pisskop - not posting
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Actually, I will explain this. I'd describe ut's post as content light. Mostly asking questions that went unanswered. I would say that he is well-intentioned but not actively contributing.In post 583, Cena and Savage wrote:UT is "not posting"? Do you think his 20 posts are lacking in content or what do you count as 'posting' at this point?Sometimes a sandwich is just a sandwich.-
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Kuribo isn't in this game.In post 596, gobbledygook wrote:Panzer what’s your read on Kuribo and Flubber?
Flubber I don't have a solid read on but BM said he was scummy.Sometimes a sandwich is just a sandwich.-
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I've played 4 games with you. You post a lot of nonsense and skate by until some arbitrary point where you turn it on and you do it regardless of alignment. It's not my favorite but its consistent.In post 600, Flavor Leaf wrote:
What does this mean?In post 580, PJ. wrote:Flavor Leaf - normal weird boon stuff. not sure if town or scum but that can wait
I don’t believe we have many matches together, so I’m curious as to what this means to youSometimes a sandwich is just a sandwich.-
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Literally every night action.In post 617, Ramcius wrote:
Can you elaborate on what important info was given for scum by Cena?In post 616, PJ. wrote:Also, because it got lost in the shuffle, I'd like to bring up that cena claimed Mason w/o partner and used that as part of their excuse for directing basically all of the night actions and giving scum basically all of the information.Sometimes a sandwich is just a sandwich.-
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Then vote me. I'm already self voting, if its happening let's do it with haste.In post 647, DrippingGoofball wrote:
Panzer is scum.In post 468, PJ. wrote:Ok, I know this means little coming from me because I've openly said I want to policy lynch Cena and Savage, but the last 2 pages in which they are trying to coach everyone into vig teams and suddenly claimed Mason is probably the most brazenly scummy thing I've ever seen. Wild that I wanted to policy lynch scum, now I just want to regular lynch scum.Sometimes a sandwich is just a sandwich.-
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PJ. Hell in a Cell
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He's made two posts bro.
I'm sure he's more town then fucking kuribo, get out my face with this nonsense.Sometimes a sandwich is just a sandwich.-
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I've played with Krazy. So I'd assume not.In post 672, gobbledygook wrote:I think Cena and Savage is Krazy + a personSometimes a sandwich is just a sandwich.-
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Hey, you know what they say. When someone says something you don't want to hear, look for a second opinion. I'm sure you can find a....7the opinion?? That says you aren't toxic.In post 673, Cena and Savage wrote:
Okay thanks for contributing to your argument that I'm toxic when youIn post 670, Flubbernugget wrote:Just know that if our reads match exactly, I still want you vigged.
a) don't know my reads
b) are arguing my reads are bad anyway
c) want to kill me even if you agree with the reads you don't know
yeah I'm really fucking toxic here, huh flubber?Sometimes a sandwich is just a sandwich.