Twice Baked Wrestling: Brawl at the Bakery! {Game Over}

[Karnage]

reading and getting caught up now... anything I should know?

[Karnage]

So i've read through the game. the Cena/Savage vs Panzer stuff made my head hurt and made it quite difficult. I'm going to go through ISOs a little later.

I'm not a fan of the finishing move daisy chain that was proposed. Just seems liek C/S and Turkey are looking for as many kills as possible as soon as possible. I don't see the benefit to town in that

[Karnage]

So i've read through the game. the Cena/Savage vs Panzer stuff made my head hurt and made it quite difficult. I'm going to go through ISOs a little later.

I'm not a fan of the finishing move daisy chain that was proposed. Just seems liek C/S and Turkey are looking for as many kills as possible as soon as possible. I don't see the benefit to town in that

so you've read the game and you have no reads you want to share?

Yeah I read through but I wasn't taking any notes. I don't think I can give any reads that would be worthwhile at the moment. Thats why I'm going to go back and look through ISOs

[Karnage]

vote Karnage

I guess you would have preferred I offer up some half-assed BS reads?

[Karnage]

VOTE: turkey{/vote]

is this because panzer told you to?

[Karnage]

The first thirty pages was just me doing the lord's work

this must be why I worship Satan

[Karnage]

oh yeah this is good

VOTE: lavender

there's something

wrong

with these posts

I'm concerned about their secret vote ability

[Karnage]

Vote for hiplop first and we can be friends.

I know this wasn't directed toward me but I'm game

VOTE: hiplop

[Karnage]

yeah honestly. there are so many low active people

and I TALKED ABOUT MY COMPUTER PROBLEMS OUTSIDE OF THIS IT IS VERIFIABLE.

This push is sketch as hell.

This bothered me because its not that he opposes wagons on inactive players, he just opposes the fact he's the target of said wagon.

[Karnage]

Secret vote ability?

See below:

Lavender (1):

Anyone else notice in the last vote-count Lavender had a mystery vote attributed to nobody?

As for my mysterious vote. Well, it's not a mistake.

[Karnage]

She’s hated essentially. It’s not really a secret vote ability. I think that makes her more likely scum. Plus she’s playing to her scum meta. I just feel bad because she was lynched Day 1 last time in DEB’s large. I think she’s probably a powerful role and that’s why it has the hateful modifier.

maybe, I assumed she could vote secretly and self-voted to test it out

[Karnage]

When there’s more to analyze, you can call the docta of flavanomics, and I’ll sweep you up like the leaves on my porch.

Like the fucking mafia messiah

[Karnage]

this is a single player roleplaying as a hydra

Spoiler:

[Karnage]

UT, 50 judge powers is just Almost50 role playing as his various alts all under one account

and really i think this has given way to a somewhat important realization: you're saying words to say words and

look

like you're playing the game, not to

actually

contribute

[Karnage]

Trng t sove a gme mehancay wth no infmation is lke trng t sove a mth pble wh hlf th letrs msing

re: assuming lavender cannot be killed.

umm... we can all still read what that says

[Karnage]

I have the information that she’s hated.

I just don't see why the mod would out a player has hated in the votecount? I'm not saying their noted hated, just that you can treat it as confirmed

[Karnage]

RC levels of egotistical

lol

[Karnage]

I have the information that she’s hated.

I just don't see why the mod would out a player has hated in the votecount? I'm not saying their noted hated, just that you can treat it as confirmed

So I was wrong. The very first vote count has lavender listed with a vote against so she likely is hated and not some sort of secret voter.

[Karnage]

i am really not liking gobble, drew, and lavender right now

You think they are both bussing lavender?

Re: lavender, I'm not sure if they're scum or not they are definitely a liability when/if we get to LYLO.

[Karnage]

Why you are concerned about LYLO on D1?

Why shouldn't I be?

Its something we need to be cognizant of as the days progress. A hated townie (assuming lavender is town) effectively shifts LYLO one day earlier, no?

[Karnage]

Has this been confirmed? Is Reina actually a Mason?

Its what they are claiming

I know that the slot I replaced into claimed mason and normally I'd be cheeky about it and not confirm or deny it, or just say that my predecessor was dumb for claiming it and imply it was a gambit, but with finishers seeming like a relevant thing in the game the downside to frustrating people about it and giving scum cover for using finishers on me probably outweighs the benefits so yeah,

I am a mason

. I intend to share no other facts about my role at this time.

[Karnage]

To be fair, I have definitely crumbed who I am this game, but if you don’t know stuff from the past like 6 years, you wouldn’t get it.

I think I posted this

Monday night

, am I getting it?

When there’s more to analyze, you can call the docta of flavanomics, and I’ll sweep you up like the leaves on my porch.

Like the fucking mafia messiah

[Karnage]

@DGB, what's your read on flavor leaf?

[Karnage]

He's in the neutral pile, I feel like he's diddly-dallying, kicking cans, and mumbling under his breath how great he is. I'm not seeing anything productive I can call town.

I understand this post will set off a paranoia tornado from him.

The reason I ask is because you've called him scum a couple times but he's never left your "Petty Criminals" pile

[Karnage]

Well, what do YOU think? Do you think he's scum? I'm curious.

I go back and forth. He's not doing shit all but whether that's AI, i don't know. He definitely hasn't done anything pro-town as of yet

[Karnage]

Well, what do YOU think? Do you think he's scum? I'm curious.

I go back and forth. He's not doing shit all but whether that's AI, i don't know. He definitely hasn't done anything pro-town as of yet

How many slots are there that ARE actively doing anything though? Lot of people are content to just lurk/shit-post and they can't all be scum

[Karnage]

Lots of players seem to be trying to steer me away from hiplop onto other lurkers.

you're insistence on lynching hiplop has become disconcerting

[Karnage]

There's a bit of amplifying back and forth happening, where I peg hiplop as scum (a tad arbitrarily from the scumpile, I reckon), and then being perplexed with the resistance, and there being more resistance because of my perplexed insistence.

Independently from that, do you think hiplop is town?

Ok, I get what you mean I think.

I'd leaning scum on hiplop for his 786

[Karnage]

It's funny, how Karnage, who's voting Hiplop himself and Espresso selfvoting have a problem with DGB's push on Hiplop

Why? I was questioning DGB's motivation, not whether whether hiplop was scum

[Karnage]

So, you think DGB is bussing Hiplop?

I guess that makes sense for you to assume but its not what I was thinking. I was just thinking about why DGB was so focused on lynching hiplop in particular, hiplop's alignment wasn't really part of the thought process.

[Karnage]

So, what's your read on Hiplop currently?

scroll back a couple posts and you'll see it

[Karnage]

You say it wasn't part of your thought process, so you still think he's scum and DGB is bussing or you changed your mind and why?

I think hiplop has a better than average chance to be scum.

I do not think DGB is bussing

I get what DGB was saying about how things got amplified each step in the hiplop discussion

[Karnage]

Spoiler: Me if I have to read through pisskop commenting on 45+ pages:

[Karnage]

we don't believe it

who is "we"?

[Karnage]

I speak for the town!

Spoiler:

[Karnage]

I don't even know why you asked

Because I don't remember anybody voting hiplop becaused they questioned the "Otis" claim.

I'm obviously vt

this seems unlikely. you don't have a finisher?

[Karnage]

Why you need to know about his finisher? And what makes you think that VTs doesn't have one? The more you post, the less I like you

Because I'm trying to figure our if his VT claim is believable. I'm not asking what his finisher is, just if he has one because if he has one he can't really be a VT can he?

p-edit: I did RTFT which is why I was asking about the VT claim when every player has a fucking finisher

[Karnage]

Whatever, I'm sure this game is loaded with VTs. just like Big Four Mafia /s

[Karnage]

Any vt claim is a fakeclaim?

No that's not what I'm saying. I'm skeptical of VT claims though

[Karnage]

The more you post, the less I like you

Seems like you're waiting for others to vote me first so you can say "yeah I don't like him either" and join the wagon without having to stick you neck out

[Karnage]

but karnage is so obviously scum yall

elaborate

[Karnage]

The mod literally says EVERY role has a finisher.

no shit. so can anybody be a VT?

[Karnage]

maybe I'm arguing semantics

[Karnage]

No, I'm happy with my vote on Flubber

Speaking of you - you tried to bring discussion how Lavender is liability in LYLO, yet no continuation, when I said you should get people to vig them, if you think they're problem.

I think you are overstating how deep of a conversation was had about lavender being a liability in lylo. "Hm, right, I forgot she's hated, so feel free to get people to vig her" seemed like a reasonable conclusion to me so I moved on.

You disliked DGB earlier and forgot that that you were sheeping her on Hiplop, your cop out "Hiplop has higher chance than random to flip scum" afterwards didn't looked good to me.

I disagree but ok

Now you're blatantly rolefishing.

lol I asked him if he has a finishing move when its mod confirmed that everybody has a finishing move. How is that role-fishing?

How about this for sticking my neck out?

I'm not impressed

[Karnage]

Spoiler: Judge's contribution so far

[Karnage]

You were questioning his claim, how that's not a rolefishing? You didn't consider possibility of PR claiming VT

so if we question anybody's claim that's rolefishing? I'll be sure to keep that in mind.

[Karnage]

second, Karnage said "haha, baited" to that, which I thought was a very odd thing to say. why on earth would you, as the second person in that slot, not even defend the behavior just say that it was on purpose (for what possible purpose? lol u voted me 4 being scummy, git gud??? I don't get it). that's the weirdest possible justification.

What are you talking about? Please provide quotes because this is blatantly false.

VOTE: untrod tripod

show me where I fucking said "haha, baited" and "git gud"

[Karnage]

2nd point didnt convince me anyway, it was the 3rd

Thats fine. I stand by it so you do you

[Karnage]

Another lurker wagon inbound, maybe we should just ask Kuroi to claim and save us time?

Great idea.

Kuroi - Time to claim!

hang on wait, did Karnage claim yet? Let's make sure we do this in a structured, coherent way....

No I haven't claimed yet.

I do love the irony(?) that I'm being scumread for "rolefishing" while other people are calling for claims from players at L-8. go figure

[Karnage]

oh boy this sure is a bad post.

elaborate

[Karnage]

I'm not in the habit of explaining to my scumreads why they're scum. hush now and take your rope.

lol just admit its bullshit just like "point 2" of your case for why I'm scum

[Karnage]

Since you're here, why you think there is no VTs in this game?

You mean aside from whether the finishing mechanic precludes anybody from being VT I'm assuming.

I don't play a lot of large theme games but "BoonyToonz XIII" I don't think had any. "Calendar Mafia" only had like 2. I checked out "Big Four" because it was a The Baker game and it didn't have any. So while I've seen VTs in large theme games they aren't common in my (admittedly limited) experience.

[Karnage]

the person who is more likely to be invulnerable to finishers or vigs than any other person in this game

we know this how?

[Karnage]

I don’t honestly get why they are all defending lavender when I’m trying to bus her lol. Guess we should just get on the Kuroi mislynch

lol

VOTE: gobbledygook

[Karnage]

...I read this as him being cheeky. you are aware that PTs aren't even the same color as public threads right? it's pretty fucking unlikely he just straight up posted in the wrong thread.

What's the rationale for your vote then?

all aboard!

vote gobbles

[Karnage]

I'm just shamelessly bandwagoning because I'm scum and/or an airheaded dumbo. u got me. I am trapped in the iron cage of your flawless deductive skills.

so you're just a dick. got it.

[Karnage]

Dumb question: Why would gobble bus Lavender here?

Cutting dead weight?

[Karnage]

But why not leave her as a magnet for finishers? Call her scum but do not push her too hard. Just enough for the many to target her with the finisher which means he would be less likely to draw finishers on himself. And then she flips and he goes "told you so, but you didn't want to lynch a lurker.. now let's go after those who FoS'd her but kept their vote elsewhere (which was at least 3 in the past few pages)".

Setting them up to draw "finishes" is cutting dead weight, no?

[Karnage]

Yoink

[Karnage]

I enjoyed the part of the game I played in. Really cool setup with the finishers and the different win cons. I liked the fork/spoon commentary too. Going to keep my eye out for redneck mafia!