Twice Baked Wrestling: Brawl at the Bakery! {Game Over}

[Doctor Drew]

The flavour is not flavour. It's fucking prophecy.

~insomnia

Good call, better get rid of my only competition.

VOTE: wondertank

[Doctor Drew]

I, for one, generally dislike Hydras.

But....

I am liking the CENA Hydra and disliking Panzer.

Oh, the pain in my dilemma.

Pre Edit: Scot, do elaborate.

[Doctor Drew]

Wait, is this guy really trying to self meta himself right now?

Exactly. Top scum player of 2019 getting pushed for doing surface level scummy things

Flavor Boon, you do really seem to keep the meta thing in your back pocket.

And as far as I know this is the first game we started in. I feel like you are trying to do a meta-wifom on us all.

In a weird way makes me want to ignore you until shit really gets going.

Yet, I am not sure what that means RE: your alignment.

[Doctor Drew]

It's just not scummy for him to do that. It is something panzer would totally do, plus the hydra is being a huge pain in the ass I would be lying if I said I didn't have the same thought as him.

More votes on Flubber people

Nah.

Pre Edit: Hello DGB, have we not played together?

[Doctor Drew]

Pre Edit: Hello DGB, have we not played together?

Have we?

I feel like on my old account (FuDuzn) we did, but I digress.

What is you opinion on FL?

You do seem interested.

[Doctor Drew]

I'd policy lynch DGB tbh

Totally on board with you RE: Panzer.

But why policy DGB?

[Doctor Drew]

But why policy DGB?

I correctly pegged him as scum.

I would prefer wonder to answer this....

And for you to answer why you are so interested in FL.,

And KK, is that the CENA Hydra?

[Doctor Drew]

To John Cena's Question: I don't use meta strats because that's too hard for me...

As for my mysterious vote. Well, it's not a mistake.

Oh wow, I'm a genius. Now for the flavour speculation about which wrestler would get an extra vote!

Speaking of flavour, flavourleaf scum is definitely possible. But I'm way more excited about Hiplop right now, as you can tell - let's get some views!

This speculation seems, unnecessary?

Do you think flavor = alignment?

[Doctor Drew]

Starting not to like BM.

[Doctor Drew]

This is a bunch of useless busywork made to look like playing the game

You aren't far off, taking a bit of an observational approach to this game.....at least intially. When I post alot I tend to get mislynched early.

I wouldn't call it useless though.

And, if I could make an omgus-ish observation.....

What exactly have you done?

[Doctor Drew]

So just so everyone is on the same page...
The Baker's last game had a secret third party that could scumside (and did scumside), so just be careful if we are approaching lylo situations :s

I came away from reading those 15 pages without any strong scumreads which is problem I will try again in the morning

Maybe I got my tinfoil hat on a bit early, but I was the third party in said game and was the person who brought up the possibility of a third party in said game.

Just so everyone is on the same page.

Pre Edit: Then you are giving me too much credit Chenn.

Also, are you a wrestling fan Chenn?

[Doctor Drew]

So just so everyone is on the same page...
The Baker's last game had a secret third party that could scumside (and did scumside), so just be careful if we are approaching lylo situations :s

I came away from reading those 15 pages without any strong scumreads which is problem I will try again in the morning

Maybe I got my tinfoil hat on a bit early, but I was the third party in said game and was the person who brought up the possibility of a third party in said game.

Just so everyone is on the same page.

Pre Edit: Then you are giving me too much credit Chenn.

Also, are you a wrestling fan Chenn?

I don't follow wrestling particularly closely, so not really.

Ok, thought I picked up a soft claim.....but I will assume it was nothing to see.

[Doctor Drew]

Actually I would want to know which games Drew is talking about. I’ve played with drew a fair bit and I think he was only lynched day 1 in mainstream mafia and that’s because he claimed paranoid gun owner and it was a liability

Not always D1, but early in games. To Boon or not to Boon, a cult game where it was impossible that I was cult leader, and the first game we played together. All mislynches because people completely misunderstood (or purposely twisted) my posts.

I took a few months off because I was getting agry IRL with a few players because of it.

In mainstream mafia I did also put my foot in my mouth in regards to flavor(which I did in another game just before that as well heh).

Not trying to be LAMIST, just stating facts about what seems to happen quite a bit when I am actually town.

And I do see BM kind of twisting things to potentially fit a narrative, reminds me slightly of chkfkip from my previously mentioned Boon game(though I believe chk was town, so I dunno).

Also RE: Chenn's potential 'crumb'. He mentioned something about the game and I thought he may have been crumbing that he is Triple H, hence why I asked if he is a wrestling fan.

[Doctor Drew]

You thought because he said "the game", he was crumbing Triple H? Why? I don't really understand the motivation for most people to be crumbing, unless it can confirm their alignment. Flavour itself does not confirm alignment. But if it did, would I expect Triple H to be town, as you apparently did? No.

Why are you so quick to assume what I am thinking?

[Doctor Drew]

You thought because he said "the game", he was crumbing Triple H? Why? I don't really understand the motivation for most people to be crumbing, unless it can confirm their alignment. Flavour itself does not confirm alignment. But if it did, would I expect Triple H to be town, as you apparently did? No.

Why are you so quick to assume what I am thinking?

I DIDN'T ASSUME ANYTHING. I'M JUST REPEATING WHAT YOU SAID, BACK TO YOU. with a modicum of incredulity.

Point out where I said I think Chenn being Triple H would make Chenn town.

This is what I am talking about, you are saying I am making assumptions that I never have made.

[Doctor Drew]

Lavender is town, obviously he doesn't have a scumteam helping.

Could you explain this

People want to look smart and earn people's respect. If Lavender was scum, Lavender would have his questions answered in the scum PT rather than looking dumb in the game thread.

Ya, but on the opposite end Lavender could be asking in game rather than in a PT so people read them the same way you are reading them.

It really isn't a mind-blowing theory, so much wifom to base a town read off of(or at least a non-scum read).

[Doctor Drew]

Made guys, saying that we are prob scum.

I don't like the intersection on Kuro and DGB.

And I feel like DGB is pocketing Chenn, as I feel confident in Chenn-town.

[Doctor Drew]

Made guys, saying that we are prob scum.

I don't like the intersection on Kuro and DGB.

And I feel like DGB is pocketing Chenn, as I feel confident in Chenn-town.

*Interaction of Kuro and DGB

[Doctor Drew]

Well, I am a semi-new player hihi.
A lot of this is flying over me, I don't understand how the vig thing and team works...
Still nothing much from me soz.
Also, are we using the people leaving as an argument?

I don't like this post, and don't like DGB wifomy defending Lavender.

Lavender is using newbie status (which isn't exactly true) as an excuse to not look their way, and than it is reinforced by an established player(DGB) who basically says their is nothing to see here.

Combined with said potential pocketing of Chenn.....

VOTE: DGB

[Doctor Drew]

Chennis I’m confused why you act like it’s so surprising that I can find the only scum game Lavender has and then compare it to her last town game (DEB’s big four). Why do I necessarily have to be in her scum game to know her meta?

The only experience I have with Lavender is Big Four, where she was town, and their posting has been wildly different.

Probably should just stop with the vanity voting of DGB, get back to them at another date.

VOTE: Lavender

A50, welcome friend, I for one welcome your style.

Pre Edit: But.....why does it smell of townie?

[Doctor Drew]

Chennis I’m confused why you act like it’s so surprising that I can find the only scum game Lavender has and then compare it to her last town game (DEB’s big four). Why do I necessarily have to be in her scum game to know her meta?

The only experience I have with Lavender is Big Four, where she was town, and their posting has been wildly different.

Probably should just stop with the vanity voting of DGB, get back to them at another date.

VOTE: Lavender

A50, welcome friend, I for one welcome your style.

Pre Edit: But.....why does it smell of townie?

she said that it

doesn't

Oh sorry.

*Puts glasses on*

Ahh, I see.

A50, refresh my memory.....have you been scum in a game with me?

[Doctor Drew]

I honestly don't remember what the heck I posted in that game. I just remember me being lynched for not outing my role and me mislynching someone.

In Big Four, you didn't out your role or were involved in any mislynch.......since you were the the D1 lynch.

[Doctor Drew]

Ugh, I meant to be a bit more passive but the days got ahead of me.

Gotta work early tomorrow, but will actually do something later tomorrow.

Pre Edit: My vanity wagon was you DGB, why so protective of Lavender though?

[Doctor Drew]

Post Edit: Vanity vote I mean

[Doctor Drew]

Pre Edit: My vanity wagon was you DGB, why so protective of Lavender though?

Why, is Lavender your buddy and you want to frame me for townreading her?

Do you always redirect questions?

[Doctor Drew]

Anywho, be back tomorrow.

Lulz, forgot about my sig.

If anyone can tell me how I can make my sig show up everytime automatically without having to manually choose......I will promise not to tunnel you.

Pre Edit: Why not?

Pre Edit 2: Flippy, call me crazy.....this seems the most aggressive I have seen you.

Pre Edit 3: Why not?

[Doctor Drew]

DGB vote Flubber!

I'd rather his buddy Dr Drew but why not

VOTE: Flubbernugget

But still don't wanna talk Lavender...... gotcha.

[Doctor Drew]

DGB vote Flubber!

I'd rather his buddy Dr Drew but why not

VOTE: Flubbernugget

But still don't wanna talk Lavender...... gotcha.

My townread on your scumpal is eroding.

What mysterious 'scumpal' are you talking about? Flubb? Turkey? Vince McMahon?

Do you wanna talk Lavender now as well?

[Doctor Drew]

Oh..that was supposed to unvote, got phone's. Baker help me out.

I don't think you actually have to unvote.

[Doctor Drew]

the person who is more likely to be invulnerable to finishers or vigs than any other person in this game

we know this how?

I was going to ask this as well, what are you getting about Turkey?

UT, Turkey seemed worried about a potential 3rd party in game (which is pretty likely) I would think it is more likely Turkeyscum is worried that Lavender is 3rd party bulletproof of some sort.

Pre Edit: Ok Turkey, I get your logic, but doesn't necessarily mean LavenderScum.

Also, what do you mean by 'We can finish them at night?' Where 'them' in this case is hypothetical town.

[Doctor Drew]

the person who is more likely to be invulnerable to finishers or vigs than any other person in this game

we know this how?

Speculation for why she’s hated. Why would a townie be hated when we can just finish them at night?

Sorry, was kind of rushing my last post.

Just seemed odd that you would mention finishing a hypothetical townie at Night.

[Doctor Drew]

Drew what are you doing

Hmm?

[Doctor Drew]

crazy idea: what if we just kill it right now

Didn't you say lavender was bullet proof

...do you... think bulletproof means lynchproof...?

In Big Four Mafia, also modded by The Baker, my role was Bulletproof and I also was lynchproof. So their is precedent for it.

[Doctor Drew]

Pre Edit: My vanity wagon was you DGB, why so protective of Lavender though?

Why, is Lavender your buddy and you want to frame me for townreading her?

hahahahaha

You certainly like to keep posting this exchange without actually answering my question to you. But please, keep deflecting.

What's the VC on Turkey? I intend to vote him but don't want a quickhammer(been there done that).

[Doctor Drew]

She’s hated essentially. It’s not really a secret vote ability. I think that makes her more likely scum. Plus she’s playing to her scum meta. I just feel bad because she was lynched Day 1 last time in DEB’s large. I think she’s probably a powerful role and that’s why it has the hateful modifier.

so to put it bluntly, i call bullshit

and really i think this has given way to a somewhat important realization: you're saying words to say words and

look

like you're playing the game, not to

actually

contribute

called it?

You might be right about Ramcius and Drew.

I am going to ask you another question you will probably just ignore or deflect again.

What is it about Ram and I?

[Doctor Drew]

She’s hated essentially. It’s not really a secret vote ability. I think that makes her more likely scum. Plus she’s playing to her scum meta. I just feel bad because she was lynched Day 1 last time in DEB’s large. I think she’s probably a powerful role and that’s why it has the hateful modifier.

so to put it bluntly, i call bullshit

and really i think this has given way to a somewhat important realization: you're saying words to say words and

look

like you're playing the game, not to

actually

contribute

called it?

You might be right about Ramcius and Drew.

I am going to ask you another question you will probably just ignore or deflect again.

What is it about Ram and I?

[Doctor Drew]

Drew, you're scum. I owe you nothing.

Town would engage with me in good faith, regardless of what you think my alignment is.

Town wouldn't have anything to hide by doing so.

So you either think I am some expert scum player who you don't want to give any extra info that you have to give, or you are scum and just will ignore and deflect because you figure I am not a strong enough town player to fear will not be able to rally the troops against you.

So which is it?

[Doctor Drew]

Town would engage with me in good faith, regardless of what you think my alignment is.

whine less, scumhunt more

Trust the process, clearly you and I haven't played before(I don't believe). Also, why do you consider this whining?

In Big Four Mafia, also modded by The Baker, my role was Bulletproof and I also was lynchproof. So their is precedent for it.

Hmmm.. could you be stabbed? Electrified? Drown? Wait! Nah, Bad joke considering the global situation.

-AP

In Big Four you could have coughed Covid in my face while smashing my forehead with a bottle of Corona and running me over in a car driven by someone drunk on Corona and I would still stand(until I was vanillized by some sumbitch....still won though).

[Doctor Drew]

I am not wasting a finisher tonight unless you are a ball of dripping goof.

[Doctor Drew]

In Big Four you could have coughed Covid in my face while smashing my forehead with a bottle of Corona and running me over in a car driven by someone drunk on Corona and I would still stand(until I was vanillized by some sumbitch....still won though).

Check THIS out.

I could have rubbed that chocolate all over my body and have been fine.

[Doctor Drew]

Town would engage with me in good faith, regardless of what you think my alignment is.

whine less, scumhunt more

Trust the process, clearly you and I haven't played before(I don't believe). Also, why do you consider this whining?

this is I think the fourth time you've said something about how DGB won't GIVE YOU ANSWERS TO YOUR VERY SERIOUS QUESTIONS. that's whining my dude.

Thanks for keeping count, care to share a pic of the 'DREW VERY SERIOUS QUESTIONS' chart you have going?

I wish I could be the smartest person in the room one day....

Oh, sorry...more whining.


But seriously, UT....you answered a direct question I asked you.......why is that SO FUCKING TOUGH FOR YOU DGB!

Call it whining, or whatever, but ignoring direct questions......on D1......isn't a townie trait.

Pre Edit: DGB, you refuse to engage with me. You think I am scum? Fine, use your finisher on me. But, why just not answer simple direct questions?

Oh, because not engaging doesn't allow me to make a case on you besides this.....what did you call it UT, whining?

You have plausible deniability, there is no benefit to scumYou engaging with me.

[Doctor Drew]

Fuck it

VOTE: Gobble

Also UT, explain the whining thing.

At least you had the common decency to answer a direct question.

[Doctor Drew]

But seriously, Lavender's vote on me IS A LITERAL SCUM CLAIM.

"Gobble's slip is fake because I'm not scum."
"Gobble's slip is real because I need to lynch Gobbles."

Like ??? How did that not raise any eyebrows to people.

bruv, if you're actually town why did you spend so much time posting in other games and not explaining what happened there with the apparent scumslip?

are you gamethrowing right now by claiming a buddy? what is happening?

Was his self vote a hammer?

If so I wouldnt even pay attention until a flip.

Pre Edit: You are adorable when so off base DGB.

Worried about me using my finisher?

[Doctor Drew]

Drew.

Gobbles bus'ed Lavender.

He said, hardy-har-har, "I don't know why people are defending Lavender whom I am bus'ing."

I townread Lavender.

And here you are, Gobbles' buddy, trying to frame me for townreading scumLavender with great insistence, repeatedly, like a dog on a bone.

Of course you'll use your finisher on me... you're scum and I got you dead to rights. You overplayed your hand and got caught... for the right reasons.

In detail, I want you to explain my frame job.

Before any of this Gobble business happened I asked why you appeared so defensive, for very little reason mind you, of Lavender.

Only know, when this Gobble business has happened, have you responded.

And yet, still haven't explained your town read of Lavender.

And, won't mention that you only responded why I said I would use my finisher on you.

[Doctor Drew]

*won't mention that you only responded when I said I would use my finisher on you.

UT, any word on that chart I mentioned?

[Doctor Drew]

I look forward to scum using their finisher on me.

Why would your buddy use it on you?

[Doctor Drew]

I didn't have the heart to replace out of this game, but at least we got confscum Lavender out of it!

You're adorable. I hope we play again and you draw town!

Not changing vote.......but eek this is eww.

2005 join date.....ya sure?

[Doctor Drew]

We were going to be Piss Flavor hydra . . .

Im just saying what uni said bluntly.

What about 3p? I got the impression it isnt just the one yellow mafiaman

Literally says in his flip that he is part of the third party. Come on, you can't honestly say you just happened to miss that.

Hey reckypoo any thoughts on the night?

Seems like a loaded question, no?

[Doctor Drew]

50, your main's meta is to be serious as scum

No it isn't, but feel free to SR me all the same. I mean, I'm not about to meta myself for you here and now. Maybe we can talk about that post-game.

I dont SR you. But I can sympathize with people calling attention to it.

PK, why bring it up at all if it isn't a scum tell for you?

'Listen guys, not saying he is scum, but A50 normally does all of this while he is scum, so use this info as you please........wait, what? I never said he is scum.....you damn liars! How dare you paint me this way!'

I kinda feel I just spoilered the eventual PK reaction, my bad.

Sorry, didn't have my glasses on.....did I interpret this interaction correctly?

VOTE: Pisskop

Pre Edit: Oh you will love this post than PK haha.

[Doctor Drew]

Literally says in his flip that he is part of the third party. Come on, you can't honestly say you just happened to miss that.

oh ghee, what a super helpful comment.

Actually is helpful since you apparently missed it.

[Doctor Drew]

I don;t think either egix or nips are scum.

why

Meta.

meta is trash, but walk me through it please

Why do I need to if you think it's trash anyway? You out a list of 4 to lynch from and I said I'd be willing to join you on 2 of them. Let's not clog the thread with posts that will get us nowhere.

Even if it's just meta I would still like to hear it because it provides context for behavior and could show me something that I've missed. I'm probably dead tonight so I'd like to be thorough

Also, meta can be trash. But if it is directly related to a specific action/play from a previous game that appears different here....do tell.

I guess I just long windingly said that meta isn't always trash.

Plus, I am going to sheep the only one of us who is confirmed town and follow their lead.

[Doctor Drew]

Post Edit: Plus, Egix was scum in Big Four(I believe), so your meta on him I could compare and contrast.....since he hasn't made much of a impression to me here.

[Doctor Drew]

Post Edit: Plus, Egix was scum in Big Four(I believe), so your meta on him I could compare and contrast.....since he hasn't made much of a impression to me here.

Nope, idiot here....he was town in that game(I think I was scum reading him, clouded my memory).

The overall point still stands though.

[Doctor Drew]

VOTE: doctor drew

Going for the easy lynch, let's do it.

VOTE: Doctor Drew

[Doctor Drew]

Can you fucking not

UNVOTE: VOTE: Pisskop

Lol, sorry naked vote angered me for some reason.

Rek, can you walk me through your TR on PK?

[Doctor Drew]

Flubb, knock yourself out with voting me, and you don't have even give a reason.

But, any comments on amything/anyone else?

[Doctor Drew]

Flubbernugget - low scumminess of interactions from FL

Hey battle mage
Not only did I read your posts, I read this one three damn times

excellent work flubbernugget, you'll progress quickly!

You're going to hurt yourself if you want to lynch your town leans and then think they're the stupid ones

Ahh, ok missed your posts from earlier Flubb.

But, I don't get this one.

[Doctor Drew]

VOTE: drew

Come one man....

You are supposed to say page top.

[Doctor Drew]

I still don't like Lavender.

I feel like Battle/Flubb involves AT LEAST one scum.

And obviously my vote is one you(and you on me).

So I cannot see lynching outside of this.

[Doctor Drew]

y? I dont condone that stuff.

who else would be scum? maybe we'll find a common ground

Also, come on man.....I thought my joke deserved at least a polite 'lol'.

[Doctor Drew]

y? I dont condone that stuff.

who else would be scum? maybe we'll find a common ground

Also, come on man.....I thought my joke deserved at least a polite 'lol'.

I mean, it was a green post, so you earned a town point?

I was looking more for a laugh then town points with it.

[Doctor Drew]

No we werent hated ysterday and I am sure not hated in my role pm. somebody gave us hated.

Wasn't Lavender hated yesterDay?

Rek, is it out of the realm of possibility that scum would hate one of their own(assuming it is scum doing the hating)?

[Doctor Drew]

I still feel like drew is a non entity in this game

As opposed to all the all the other players who have been posting non stop in this game?

No we werent hated ysterday and I am sure not hated in my role pm. somebody gave us hated.

Wasn't Lavender hated yesterDay?

Rek, is it out of the realm of possibility that scum would hate one of their own(assuming it is scum doing the hating)?

i mean if so idk why you choose lavender over FL

That is a good point I didn't think about.

[Doctor Drew]

No we werent hated ysterday and I am sure not hated in my role pm. somebody gave us hated.

Wait a second, so you think there was a Night 0?

[Doctor Drew]

You grouped yourself and Lavender as 'we'.

You said someone gave both of you hated.

You implied, since Lavender was hated Day 1, that there was a Night 0.

I don't think there was a Night 0, but you are saying there was.

Unless, and you claim not to know there was a third party flip so I dunno, you didn't know Lavender was hated Day 1.

(Also, going off the assumption that both of you are hated, and not a secret voter.....which I doubt)

[Doctor Drew]

Vote Count 1.01

Lavender (1):
Not Voting (21): Flavor Leaf, Panzerjager, hiplop, xRECKONERx, KidAmn, Emperor flippyNips, Lavender, Wondertank, scotmany12, chennisden, DrippingGoofball, Untrod Tripod, Kublai Khan, KuroiXHF, BullDunne, Flubbernugget, Cena and Savage, Ramcius, Battle Mage, pisskop, Doctor Drew

With 21 alive, it takes 11 to bury someone!
Day 1 ends on Friday, April 17 2020, at 12:30pm EST in (expired on 2020-04-17 12:30:00)

Lavender had a vote on them from the first VC.

[Doctor Drew]

also: youre a better lynch than i

Panzer or I?

[Doctor Drew]

Pisskop, you are acting weird right now, you drunk?

No judgement, I also am drunk......but, wtf?

[Doctor Drew]

Let's make something happen.

VOTE: Kuroi

[Doctor Drew]

I think we should string up kuroi.

Why Kuroi from all the lurkers?

And then just after two quick votes happened on Kuroi.

Wagoning someone just for sake of it does nothing. You need to ask them question or demand to explain their actions

Why were you ok with PL, Hipflop, and myself being 'wagoned'.....but initially buckled at Kuroi?

[Doctor Drew]

Well, ut *is* confirmed. And kurou is scum..soooo

You know.....I wanted to use my finisher on Ramcius.......but you make a complelling case to use it on you.

[Doctor Drew]

I also give zero shits about the wagons, you guys are literally wagoning people for shits and giggles, not to solve the game

I suppose it can't be helped when literally nothing is happening

who do you want to lynch, and why?

maybe Drew/Pisskop? feel like they're not doing anything but are trying really hard to seem otherwise

hmmm? oh no Im doing fuck and all right now.

One, I am all for a PK lynch here. He is on my short list of who sucks my finisher tonight regardless.

Two, what exactly game solving have you done Chenn? Seems like all of your most recent post are just bitching that I haven't done anything of substance.

[Doctor Drew]

Right. But thats because youre gonna get my finisher. Lets see who dies first

Lol......wanna make a wager?

[Doctor Drew]

Right. But thats because youre gonna get my finisher. Lets see who dies first

Lol......wanna make a wager?

Also, never said I was definitely gonna use my finisher on you.

[Doctor Drew]

Well, that's an oof.
I didn't put any finishers on Kuroi and Rami if that helps.

Can you use multiple finishers a night?

Also, all day at work I have been thinking there is a reason(besides the obvious that he is IC) that UT was killed. A50 brought up that there isn't necessarily an urgency to get rid of him......unless, though, his reads are correct? Obviously UT was wrong about Kuroi, but what if scum was worried about UT pushing on Flippy and/or Chenn. And since UT was IC the nightkill could just be swept under the rug under the guise of 'killing confirmed town'.

Worth kicking the tires on at least.

[Doctor Drew]

I also have a feeling that Kuroi was the NK, so we would waste our finishers.

I think scum used their finishers on UT(I think at least one of them used a finisher on him Night 1).

Pre Edit: Ok Rek, thoughts on my theory?

Also, did you use a finisher.......and if so, on who?

[Doctor Drew]

Also, I used my finisher on Flippy.....so I dunno.

[Doctor Drew]

A50, could of sworn it was you who said it, but the source doesn't really matter.

Like, instead of wasting their nightkill on someone who would probably die anyway, just use it on someone more threatening?

There are holes, and I am making some leaps, just can't shake that there isn't something there. I will admit I am putting the cart before the horse.

[Doctor Drew]

I also have a feeling that Kuroi was the NK, so we would waste our finishers.

I think scum used their finishers on UT(I think at least one of them used a finisher on him Night 1).

Pre Edit: Ok Rek, thoughts on my theory?

Also, did you use a finisher.......and if so, on who?

i usually think nk analysis is too WIFOMy to rely on but i think there's a possibility youre right. like, then again, it makes me think you are scum who set this up to frame flippy/chenn?

i did use a finisher yes, on kuroi

This makes no damn sense even from a wifom perspective

Ok, forget this little bit of extrapolation that I did.

How do you feel about Chenn/Flippy?

[Doctor Drew]

Chen totten flip idk

Can someone tell me why chen is scum

You know full well you won't get a response to this.

Until activity increases, will go with UT's reads.

Sorry I am trying to do something instead of the 'cannot be assed to do anything' mentality of everyone else.

Also, what about Flippy?

[Doctor Drew]

Not yet, though I am sure we can't believe all claims of finishers.

[Doctor Drew]

Mod

If someone dies during the Night, does their potential finisher go through?

[Doctor Drew]

That may have been an ok strategy at the start of the game, but with many a townie being knocked off the odds are actually better now that a finisher will take out scum.

Also, who knows what extra powers scum have as well......and you can't stop them from using their finishers(assuming they still have them).

[Doctor Drew]

Scum killing Ram just seem weird though.

I think we just need to lynch all lurkers, because scum is just gonna kill the active.....and a good chance they are just coasting by(forget who said as much Day 2).

Going with my previous theory, takes me back to Flippy/Chenn.

VOTE: Flippy

[Doctor Drew]

I didn’t use my finisher, didn’t feel like it

This here is why I won't vote Nips today. Unless there is an explicit guilty on him I still think he is more engaged than he usually is (yes.. this IS him being active) and he also has a finisher that could prove useful.

Yes, I know Flippy is lurky in every game......but with the generally slow pace of this game he flies under the radar even more so........ especially that response to if he used a finisher or not.

He doesn't get prodded(I mean by us, not mod), he doesn't get questioned, he just floats on by.

So unless there is a guilty on someone else......I ain't changing my vote.

[Doctor Drew]

Post Edit: Yes, already mentioned I used on Flippy

[Doctor Drew]

Are you lagging or something? That was like 7 posts ago.....in this game that is an eternity!

Also, the comment about Kuroi and Ramcius did confuse me lol.

[Doctor Drew]

Post Edit: Oh, didn't see you quoting them.

Carry on then......

[Doctor Drew]

I didn’t use my finisher, didn’t feel like it

This here is why I won't vote Nips today. Unless there is an explicit guilty on him I still think he is more engaged than he usually is (yes.. this IS him being active) and he also has a finisher that could prove useful.

Psh this is no where near my active side, I’ve been a little burnt out but I feel it coming again

I do realize I was being defended but I’m pretty sure I’ve been/looked pretty disengaged the whole game. Unless my memory is as poor as I say it is (it’s selective)

I’ve just been soooo lazy getting to iso’ing people So I feel guilty and push the game away but not anymore

Spoiler:

I look forward to you not following up on this.

[Doctor Drew]

Uhm maybe? I mean I'm never sure whether to reveal info or not. But I'm pretty darn sure I can prove that I'm town.

Proving yourself a townie is always good at this stage. I mean, 3-4 scum left (not sure because while the Lyncher was "not town" by definition, their target was also Scum, so they were definitely "pro-town" from that perspective). Anyway, 3-4 scums left and some townies have finishers left to use, so it'd be nice if they didn't use it on town.

Then you say you have "info"? If not now, then when do you think is best to reveal it? So, I say you probably should share any info that could help us in this situation

Alright, remember FL? I'm basically their opposite in regards to Finishers. I'm immune to their Curb Stomp Finisher and they were Immune to my Superman Punch Finisher.
I can use my Finisher twice on the same person if I wanted to as well. Just like FL could.

So what do you think? Does this clear me or you want me to convince ya more?

From a flavor perspective, does make sense why you are are hated as well.

Also, yesterDay PK was hated and now toDay Egix is hated......not exactly sure what that means, but just bringing attention to it.

[Doctor Drew]

So what do you think? Does this clear me or you want me to convince ya more?

If true, then that's pretty awesome imho. And tbh, I don't see you coming up with that out of thin air, so I'm inclined to believe it. Thank you.

P.S. That doesn't seem like something you should have hidden either. I mean, I understand not saying anything on D1, but as soon as FL flipped there was nothing to worry about revealing it anymore and especially so when you have already used the finisher at least once.

The only thing that gives me pause is that that Lavender hemmed and hawed about revealing, could have been coached by scum about the details.

But, I do seriously doubt that since so far the town flips have been babyfaces and the scum/third party flips have been heels(I believe, I should double check that). And if Lavender is lying than almost guarantee there is the real Roman Reigns.

[Doctor Drew]

Ok yes, I was correct.

[Doctor Drew]

Lol, sorry to use insider terms.

And every wrestler has some sort of finisher......unless he isn't a wrestler and maybe a manager, announcer, or something if the like.

[Doctor Drew]

After a quick ISO if Battle Mage on D1.

Also didn't buy Hipflop as Otis(he was), and really wanted to lynch Ramcius......but claims not to have finishers?

Also, per my theory, mentioned Hipflop could be a non wrestler(Vince McMahon).

Kind of interesting tbh.

[Doctor Drew]

Battle Mage, are you a fan of current wrestling?

[Doctor Drew]

So you're saying, no one in this game has the Superman Punch finisher at all BM?

Nope, I buy that you are Roman Reigns, and your finisher may be the superman punch. But I don't buy the thing about you being immune to FL and vice versa. And I don't buy the timing of your claim at all - as noted, there's no good town reason for you to claim when you did.

It literally said in Flavor's flip that he was immune to the Superman Punch.

And why not claim when they did? Lavender kept saying they could be cleared, if you are gonna say it then you should do it.

[Doctor Drew]

I don't even know what to say about BM, is he a jester?

Pre Edit: BM is Doing the Clown haha

Pre Edit2: You said you didn't have a finisher, we were trying to flavor wise figure out who wouldn't. Your 'taking the piss' style of posting is worrisome.

Pre Edit3: You fake day vigged which cause UT to claim, it doesn't matter that he said was gonna anyways, you would not have known that when you pulled your stunt.

Pre Edit4: This game goes from no posts to I CAN'T FUCKING POST WITHOUT A DAMN PRE EDIT very quickly.

[Doctor Drew]

AND IT CAUSED A TYPO....AHHH!

Doink the Clown I mean.

[Doctor Drew]

Fuck, Pre Edit2 should be 'who wouldn't have a finisher'.

[Doctor Drew]

VOTE: Battle Mage

I can't even.....

Pre EditLOL: Phone posting BM

[Doctor Drew]

Also, a dig at my response speed vs replying to content of post.

Gotcha.

[Doctor Drew]

Ladies and gentlemen, we have entered the 'scum hurls insults as defense mechanism' period of the game.

At least this game is fun now.

[Doctor Drew]

Ladies and gentlemen, we have entered the 'scum hurls insults as defense mechanism' period of the game.

At least this game is fun now.

I'm obviously town. Which is why your digs at me (which don't actually suggest I am scum) make you look so bad. not bad as in scummy, just bad as in bad.

What digs did I take at you? I said you might be jester(which in case you didn't know, is your title) as a way of calling you Doink......but I loved Doink, take that as a complement.

Also, quick......point me to some posts that make you obv town.......I mean, I clearly suck at this game and need to extra assistance.

I basically should be on the JOB Squad

[Doctor Drew]

Battle Mage, I will make this clear.

YOU said you have been obv towning, so the onus is on YOU to prove it. And according to the quick ISO I did on you, I didn't see it.

And please explain ANY town motivation for your fake vig on UT. Every defense you have is that 'UT said he was gonna claim anyways' or 'UT even said it didn't matter'.

It doesn't matter what UT thought about it, what only matters is what YOUR motivation for doing it was.

And since your only defense is what a deadman said, and not an explanation of YOUR actions from YOUR own mouth, I am going to continue to vote you.

I will let others decide if you are scum or not based off this, but in my mind you are digging your own grave.

Look forward to what insults, deflections, and just outright ignoring of content you come with in your next post.

[Doctor Drew]

So, you can't show me that you have been obv towning or........?

[Doctor Drew]

Also I always love the 'going to bed guys, catch ya later!'

Followed by 200 posts trying to defend themselves.

Sleep isn't as important as defending yourself from one vote lol.

[Doctor Drew]

Tony Atlas

That is a nice deep cut.

I mean, I am still gonna vote for you.

But, I do applaud you good sir.

[Doctor Drew]

Im actually Mankind

I'm Undertaker.......I am fully prepared to through you off Hell In A Cell.

[Doctor Drew]

I am so glad, and I can't believe I am saying this, that people ran off the hydras........look at all the activity that has happened since then!

Good thing we all hated on them for no reason and were general dickheads.

Ya fuck them.

[Doctor Drew]

I'm going to assume reck isn't paying attention and not scum for thinking more is 3p lyncher for Seth when bray already revealed to have that role and target

lmaooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

yep u right

Pretty much figured Reck not scum years ago.

Panzer, stop looking for affirmation.

[Doctor Drew]

Reck, join us on BM.

Flubb, fuck off of me and join us as well.

[Doctor Drew]

Pisskop, you are likely scum.......bit join us as well if you dare.

[Doctor Drew]

Panzer, get on on here and push for Pisskop......the only way I could be persuaded to change my vote.

[Doctor Drew]

I could do this today

VOTE: BM

Also, has anyone noticed that Pisskop no longer has a vote thingy, but Egix does and Lavender's remains unchanged?

Are they maybe unrelated? I was thinking it may have grown off of Lavender, but now I'm confused

I mentioned the hated thing on Egix as well.

Not sure what to make of it, paranoid brain says that Lavender can make people hated along with them......but even that doesn't make them scum.

[Doctor Drew]

I think BM is scummy, I just don't think scum is posting because there is no incentive to. we are down half the town, have 0 leads, and because so much of the game is inactive or functionally inactive that they blend in easily. Yeah, I think there's a lot of dumb shit BM did, but like..I feel like it's been blatantly obvious the best move for scum is to just not do anything while so much of the town doesn't give a shit. Maybe I'm off base, maybe I'm wrong, but I'd rather BM/Drew/Flub or whatever beat me then pisskop, egix, espressojet, etc.

vote pisskop

, someone finisher nips tonight, we can lynch egix tomorrw. w/e

Literal first sentence is saying that BM is scummy.

Literal last sentence is voting someone else.

You do you.

[Doctor Drew]

youre all very dumb for not getting mason vibes off of bm the entire game

Honest question, how does one get mason vibes off if someone?

VOTE: Flippy

[Doctor Drew]

With the lack of a CC I can't help but believe the claim, although that was horrible play (imho) for a Mason.

UNVOTE:

I will once again have to ask what the case on chenn is. I don't see why chenn is scummy.

BM didn't need to claim, was nowhere near close to a lynch. Acted so anti townie because he knew he could prove his townieness. Basically is going into business for himself(sorry more insider wrestling terms, but I am sure BM gets it).

Battle Mage, don't give me shit for being bad......despite most likely being town, you have been anti town the whole game.

And you have yet to extrapolate your case on Chenn.

[Doctor Drew]

Sorry that I couldn't townread you with your anti town play. Of course I should've known you were the mason while you were fucking around and still insist on being attached to shitty reads/shitty votes without backing them up at all.

my play is fine, you worry about yourself kiddo

You have been the most blatantly anti town person here, there is part of me that, despite your claim, still wants to send you to the depths of hell.

5 days to go till deadline and no consensus, and no one has a real thought out case on someone...... so fuck it, going back to square one.

VOTE: pisskop

[Doctor Drew]

I feel like nips voting pisskop fucks my whole view on this game up.

Ya, but but can't be weary of one scum read voting the other.

Unless you have knowledge of roles....

[Doctor Drew]

but maaaayb the IC had a reason

so are you tonedeaf or stupid Expresso

You are acting like UT's reads are the end all be all.

He even admitted he isn't a great scum hunter.

[Doctor Drew]

That post is lol.

VOTE: flubber

[Doctor Drew]

VOTE: flubber

How do you feel about people using their finishers on you?

[Doctor Drew]

I think esspresso and bm, look bad

While I am with you on BM, they are the non-countered mason.

[Doctor Drew]

I think esspresso and bm, look bad

While I am with you on BM, they are the non-countered mason.

honestly, what is up with you dude? I can only imagine you're stewing behind your computer screen or something over me... ridiculous

Wow, stop flattering yourself that I would waste brain power on you lol.

I was informing Pisskop that you are basically conf town.

[Doctor Drew]

GG fellow third parties! High fives all around!

[Doctor Drew]

Sun goes up, sun goes down, the sky is blue, 3p is always Doctor Drew

[Doctor Drew]

It reminded me in the dead thread, I didn't use my finisher on Flippy, Inlied, I used it on Ramcius. I wanted people to waste their finishers on Flippy so less chance they are used on me.

[Doctor Drew]

It reminded me in the dead thread, I didn't use my finisher on Flippy, Inlied, I used it on Ramcius. I wanted people to waste their finishers on Flippy so less chance they are used on me.

I meant in the Scum PT.

[Doctor Drew]

First on-site scumgame, woo!

Checks join date.

Man you had a rough 6 years haha.

[Doctor Drew]

Chenn, in both games town couldn't lynch scum. I think it was a case of bad/unlucky town.