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You called my bluff, oh no! I can't hold on to guns!!
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I thought about this before the game. We coouuldd just choose an exile target and then firing squad execute them until they die, then move to the second most sus target, and so on.In post 30, Keiji and Sara wrote:Alisae and I talked a bit before the game started and surely we mass-shoot one person instead of mass shooting randomly, yes?
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i don't know!In post 34, Keiji and Sara wrote:
you have a point there, although firing squad execution is ++town power! whatever should we do!In post 33, Morning Tweet wrote:I thought about this before the game. We coouuldd just choose an exile target and then firing squad execute them until they die, then move to the second most sus target, and so on.
But that didn't sound quite as fun as a shootout
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im inIn post 35, NorwegianboyEE wrote:How about a mexican standoff.
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In post 108, TripleHaven wrote:how do I do ISO's on this site?
i'm a newbie to mafiascum but have played about 20+ games on MU and 5 or 6 on TOS so I've played a lot of FM
have I already said that? I don't know lol
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i think trip is townIn post 93, TripleHaven wrote:literally nobody's made a significant read while ive been itt and thats kinda icky to me
Mena also light town fer the theory on Trip, at least for now. who am i to vote now
interesting take but i disagreeTripleHaven wrote:Having this many votes on bell so early is kinda bad
like this doesn't typically happen unless someone's town
VOTE: Bell-
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VOTE: BellIn post 121, Bell wrote:We need at least 6 more votes. for me to take this wagon seriously.
VOTE: Bell
VOTE: Bell
VOTE: Bell
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A lot as in, it's a bad thing? I'm curious like Datisi said as to why that makes Bell more likely townIn post 122, TripleHaven wrote:4 votes on one person in a game where a lot of people haven't come itt yet is a lot.-
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Hey!!!!! i resent that!!!In post 129, Bell wrote:
But what if Datisi has a meta read and then Mena sheeps after his first vote brought him what might be results and then because of the paragon tag river comes in, and then the fourth one is a mafia who is opportunistic.In post 122, TripleHaven wrote:4 votes on one person in a game where a lot of people haven't come itt yet is a lot.-
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N/AIn post 137, Bell wrote:
What was your reason then?In post 134, Morning Tweet wrote:
Hey!!!!! i resent that!!!In post 129, Bell wrote:
But what if Datisi has a meta read and then Mena sheeps after his first vote brought him what might be results and then because of the paragon tag river comes in, and then the fourth one is a mafia who is opportunistic.In post 122, TripleHaven wrote:4 votes on one person in a game where a lot of people haven't come itt yet is a lot.
slightly didn't like your reaction to Datisi's vote. Really i joined cause i sort of like Mena and to help "pressure"
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i can vibe with this but i have no opinion on Nor/umlaut and think Trip is townIn post 139, Datisi wrote:umalut/mena/jjh/norwee/tweet/max town? (inb4 3 wolfs in there and i'm a fucking moron)-
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i have decided Triple is town and if anyone tries to shoot them I will shoot u in responseIn post 148, TripleHaven wrote:anyways that post from datisi has been the only thing that has pinged me since i got here so
VOTE: Datisi
Don't worry, I'm a bat, and bats don't have any pockets!TripleHaven wrote:
Which pocket, the front or back?In post 147, Morning Tweet wrote:
N/AIn post 137, Bell wrote:
What was your reason then?In post 134, Morning Tweet wrote:
Hey!!!!! i resent that!!!In post 129, Bell wrote:
But what if Datisi has a meta read and then Mena sheeps after his first vote brought him what might be results and then because of the paragon tag river comes in, and then the fourth one is a mafia who is opportunistic.In post 122, TripleHaven wrote:4 votes on one person in a game where a lot of people haven't come itt yet is a lot.
slightly didn't like your reaction to Datisi's vote. Really i joined cause i sort of like Mena and to help "pressure"
going forward i think i've learned max is light town, trip is lean town-
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just try and stop me!!Menalque wrote:
Making alliances based on cute avatars is illegalIn post 155, Morning Tweet wrote:i have decided Triple is town and if anyone tries to shoot them I will shoot u in response-
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wait don'tIn post 161, Morning Tweet wrote:
just try and stop me!!Menalque wrote:
Making alliances based on cute avatars is illegalIn post 155, Morning Tweet wrote:i have decided Triple is town and if anyone tries to shoot them I will shoot u in response
i retract my previous statement
do not hurt us pls and ty we're peaceful-
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look at him go ahahahahahahaIn post 171, TripleHaven wrote: here's where it comes from btw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTXxhLi ... =emb_title
i do believe the two are friends and also probably just the most active posters as well but regardless i dont think they're both scum eitherTripleHaven wrote:It's probably too early to be making associations but mena and datisi probably not w/w because they're interacted a lot and scumbuddies would probably be more careful while doing that. It links them together in a way.-
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im thinking either none or maybe max. I'm turning around on you.. maybe
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are u using a kill all anime facade to hide behind sheeping the universal townread / giving them more confidence to push Datisi?In post 186, Tipsy wrote:i propose we KILL ALL ANIMES. i will include myself in this if i must.
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is the universe susceptible to being killed with bullets? i don't think so!!In post 204, Tipsy wrote:there can be no universal townread because i have determined none of u are town. i AM the universe.
i have given u no shit, datsisi!Datisi wrote:your vote on me implied you think i'm mafia, don't give me that shit lmao
We should test out your claim
not me though, I'm taking a pacifist lifestyle and also still have not figured out how to pick up the gun
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yupIn post 212, Datisi wrote:it means 203 looks like a bad faith read but i don't think in my heart that it is
im going to shoot you no i wont yes i will no i wontTipsy wrote:what does that MEEANN?-
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I dont want a "Everyone you must shoot this person or we execute you" framework
but a discussion to get some consensus town players that are whitelisted from being shot, maybe find who we should prioritize shooting, and stuff like that is perfectly reasonable. Which is the vibe im getting from K&S' post. theyre right we dont really want total chaos where scum doesnt have to account for themselves-
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Here's my working whitelist:In post 235, TripleHaven wrote:people to not shoot
me
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Keiji and Sara (Alisae + Kanna)
Menalque
Umlaut
Does anyone have objections to any of these? or anyone they wanna add? just throwing out ideas here.
Triple >> Bell, Datisi >> Mena, jj >> Umlaut, max
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I reckon that's not something to beat yourself up over on page 11In post 260, TripleHaven wrote:I have too many nulls it's been the same 5-6 people itt all game for me
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Mm not feeling as strong abt jj now, I think on a technical level i probably disagreed with his take on governing shots not benefiting town. I think reducing chaos to an extent would be helpful for at least avoiding really outlandish shots. He didn't get into much else other than spec about the shots, true, I can see scum just wanting to stick to the mechanicalIn post 267, maxwell wrote:
I actually don't really like most of jjh's content this game despite agreeing with him on a technical level, felt like he got too much into into setup strategy to the neglect of anything else. Townread on triplehaven is uncontroversial, don't understand the one on bell, either way don't think a couple early townreads is worthy of towncred.In post 255, Morning Tweet wrote:
Here's my working whitelist:In post 235, TripleHaven wrote:people to not shoot
me
morning tweet
Keiji and Sara (Alisae + Kanna)
Menalque
Umlaut
Does anyone have objections to any of these? or anyone they wanna add? just throwing out ideas here.
Triple >> Bell, Datisi >> Mena, jj >> Umlaut, max
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Bell i dont know how to explain well. I suppose his asking everyone voting him for explanations/reasoning could be a scummy defensive move, but i more interpreted it as scumhunting on the only main early wagon (which also did happen to be him). His continued harping on Mena could just be his scumhunting style, or perhaps something easy to get tunneled on as scum to not have to do anything else. Been leaning the former
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WHY DID YOU SHOOT BELL, ICO WHAT THE FUUUCCCK
From ma reread ive decided Bell is town and im putting him above Datisi but i still lean town on Datisi too so really the exchange kind of just makes me sad
Ico I think correctly called TvT but proceeded to egg them on and then shoot Bell itself. if it were anyone but Ico id be very tempted to fire but tbh I just want to see if Tipsy can dodge a 3rd or 4th shot-
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Triple seems very innocent. much too pure to be scum. I will be heartbroken if she isIn post 409, Keiji and Sara wrote:
can you explain why you like everyone here so far?In post 313, Morning Tweet wrote:i have decided i like triple, bell, keiji, and datisi the most
I still like how Bell went about examining his own wagon in search of scum. I think his continued prods at Mena/Datisi to get their reasoning for voting him was good. He was a really peculiar way of playing that is kind of hard to understand, like the prisoners dilemma thing, so im willing to bet some of the basis for scumreading him earlier was just playstyle.
I liked something abt Keijis entrance. I know that Keiji struggles to get footing sometimes early as scum, at least in my sample size of one. But she seems normal so far to me.
Datisi I feel like his huge level of engagement with the game could he potentially town indictative, it certainly is for me. I couuld see datisi!scum but I have no wish to shoot him. Additionally now from Bell v Datisi it just feels like Datisi was having townie frustration to Bells confusing questions/push. Datisi also generally just reacts in a big way to being accused which I'm wondering could be town indictative (461)-
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hell yeah I want one!!In post 481, jjh927 wrote:Oh btw I started an xcom long war game about the same time as this game started
Anyone who takes a successful shot can have someone named after them
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It does kind of feel like Pork would at least play a little bit as town. But i might be underestimating his meme game
i still think Tipsy is a superior shot. She hasnt really responded to pressure on her at all which i find odd. At most shes said "If I die, kill the anime" in response to her killers
pedit: WHY-
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u stuck out as town to me while reading trust fall but i havent gotten that here. here you're mor3 or less 100% meme focused which is fine but you werent in that game which makes me wonderIn post 573, Tipsy wrote:whatd i do lol
in trust fall you had immediate speculation with the mechanic, readslists, a giant 1v1 with raven over something i forget. Here you respond to wagon pressure by saying "If I die, kill anime" (which i want to reiterate, i am in complete agreement with but still)-
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I dont know >m<In post 576, Menalque wrote:Hey MT, what’s your read on me?
I would say by virtue of Pork/Tipsy shooting you, you go up rand% bring town. I figure you're probably pretty good as scum which makes me hesitant to townread some things
Hm, i supposeTipsy wrote:trustfall wa a lot easier to follow lawl
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Well that's not happening we cant aimIn post 585, Tipsy wrote:was kinda just waitng till a lot of ppl were dead to actually read the game. or maybe id just be shot and wouldnt have to care lol
And the whole receive pressure -> continue meming and just see if you die or not thing made me want to shoot you. how am i to know you're town if you're just gonna wait and see if you die first?
The only takes you had were like voting Trip and shooting mena. It read to me like you didnt want to respond to the pressure so you just memed after that point-
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im glad u switched off of Bell to tipsyIn post 593, Menalque wrote:
Like what?In post 589, Morning Tweet wrote:which makes me hesitant to townread some things
i like the Tipsy comment in 502 because saying its +town to get rid of a townie is somewhat openwolfy and id expect scum to not go as far to include the extra bit about possibly knowing Tipsys main. Seems unnecessary
and i lightly like the Datisi interactions but not for a tangible reason
And generally i wouldnt advocate for killing the most active poster when i havent gotten anything scummy off of them
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Tipsy hardly even acknowledges a bloodbath in that post, she acknowledges people shooting each other and wonders how ut would resolve
The kill all animes is sort of a good point i guess? I dont really think scum!Tipsy would care about the bussing implications of it much. It's not like it's a serious proposal nor does it really affect who she shoots too much, she can only pick one-
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You listed JJ as your second best townread cause he was bold enough to shoot you. What does that even mean?!NorwegianboyEE wrote:Am i supposed to TR this?
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<33In post 636, Menalque wrote:If MT is scum then she’s trying to hardpocket me and is succeeding
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Cause i agree with him and would say the same thing in his shoesIn post 643, TripleHaven wrote:Okay, but why are you just throwing away the interpretation that it's openwolfing
Additionally he didnt have to include the part where he said "I might know Tipsys main and by virtue of meta we may just want to get rid of her even if she is town". That was entirely optional to say as scum and I think scum wouldn't-
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I think at worst this evaluation is correct, meaning Trips basis for shooting Mena was unfounded regardlessIn post 649, Umlaut wrote:I find the sentiment in 502 pretty much NAI. If Menalque is saying that as scum it's because it's something he would say anyway as town.-
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Dont see what's scummy about this. Trips shot was terrible and Mena potentially will die so he's calling out in advance to reexamine her if he cantIn post 626, Menalque wrote:Triplehaven may need to be reconsidered if this goes through
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Damnn im sorry Tipsy i should've realized who you are smh im sorry i misfired at you. I suppose my trust fall meta wasnt exactly damning anyway. Now it feels like you arent scum at all to be honest
I think I like Datisi, Tipsy, Triple, and bell
I keep flipping back and forth on Keiji townread and townlean. I feel a bit like Kanna is posting more how i remember her as town than how i remember our scum game together just a bit ago.
Max also i flip on cause like i agree with a ton of his takes but that probably doesnt count as a full townread
i slightly like Mena, Norwee, umlaut, jjhh (very prone to errors)
that leaves Pork and Isis on the outs. Doubt it's really as simple as the two of them but id be surprised if both are town
Pork i dont really have any reason other than i kiiinda want to say he wouldnt 100% hide behind a gimmick as town but eh he could. I think as scum he'd probably think that we'd think he would be willing just to meme post
Isis huge defense on Tipsy before an accidental green flip on them might have been a way to score towncred. Actually her shot on Ico might be town indictative though, it was kind of unexpected/against the flowish. Felt kind of on a whim as a snap reaction to some of Icos posts. Ill have to think more about it
Norwee asked me if i tr Mena. well I sort of do. During those few pages where i defended him to Trip had the effect of making me want to tr him more. His reversal on Tipsy and suspicion of Isis lined up with my own (to the point where I basically echoed what he said just a moment after he said it)
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ya but i didnt like her read on Tipsy at the time. of course she could make a case for Tipsy!town if she is scum, though, cause she wouldIn post 768, TripleHaven wrote:wait then why tf are they voting you
like if the point is "they wanna gain towncred" or maybe they just genuially townread them?knowTipsy is town
I just thought eith what we had to work with on Tipsy at the time, townreading them so elaborately was odd. There wasnt a lot for me to read from them personally. but lo and behold Isis was right (probably)
But of course, Isis is quite good and it was a very Isis like thing to do so :I and I am not pinged by the Ico kill too bad, the shot seemed kind of town indictative. So I'm unsure where id like to go and i just want to nap-
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idk if thats everyone that's just meIn post 771, Isis wrote:
The way I'm reading this is like, I'm psychic?In post 765, Morning Tweet wrote:Isis huge defense on Tipsy before an accidental green flip on them might have been a way to score towncred.
pedit: H3 apparently everyone is locked into an exactly-one-wine-swap interpretation that I defended town to improve my standing rather than genuinely thought Tipsy was a misexile I was seeing happening.
u are a prophet Isis (>ω<)