BooneyToonz XIV: A Little Boonie Told Me [END]

[Gypyx]

The fuck how are u first it's my job >:C

Anyways claiming Town Parallel Universe (Ascetic) brb in ~2 hours

[Gypyx]

Oh god no pls don't

[Gypyx]

Vanilla Noraa

Welcome ! You are a

Vanilla Noraa

You may each night use your factional kill

Your goal is to kill 2 town PR's

Sample Noraa PM

You're just asetic? Nothing more / flavor? Anyways i'll leave now got work to do

[Gypyx]

Vanilla Noraa

Welcome ! You are a

Vanilla Noraa

You may each night use your factional kill

Your goal is to kill 2 town PR's

Sample Noraa PM

You're just asetic? Nothing more / flavor? Anyways i'll leave now got work to do

thats all i want to claim now. at the very least i need to check with shelly.

do you know if your role is described on the booney toonz wiki?

-taylor

Parallel universe is just flavor, basically my role PM tells me that i live in a parallel universe and that i can't be affected by non-killing actions there

[Gypyx]

Town Parallel Universe (Ascetic)

wait is this legit? like one of those things where like gravediggers are supposed to claim first or something?

Yep, false guilties roles are supposed to be claimed around the first posts to prevent scum from getting away with claiming those when guiltied once we left the early game

[Gypyx]

remember when i caught you as scum because you posted that gif?

i think that's probably my favorite moment in a game that i've played on this website by far

Scumreading gifs

What.

Spoiler:

pls send link

[Gypyx]

i doubt 28 is serious

[Gypyx]

Birthday got some good posts tbh, mind if i sheep you?

[Gypyx]

Damn i missed the pagebottom

VOTE: fish

[Gypyx]

Oh god ari you found my secret scumtell leave me alone ples

[Gypyx]

I have not read back yet but none of those claims are real.

Mine is tho

[Gypyx]

I'm a named Ascetic basically, the parentheses are included in the role name too

[Gypyx]

Lolwhat, unbirthday can be town

[Gypyx]

Fake claiming as a miller, you mean like i AM miller and i claim something else, or i am something else and i claim miller?

Anyways i have already played one game as a town Ascetic, i tried to bait scum on me without claiming but it didn't work

[Gypyx]

I haven't but I guess i could yeah, there would need some reason for me to do so though

[Gypyx]

Gypyx can be town

Gypyx is there a good shorthand for your name? GX maybe? I obviously can't go with "Gyp." Otherwise it's just full spelling I guess

What's the problem with Gyp? It's actually my prefered shorthand

And yeah GX is good, as long as you, like, don't write Gypix or anything of the sort i'll be good

[Gypyx]

Ah okay, well my bad, english is my second language, i'm fine with it anyways and it's not meant as an insult so i'm good, feel free to spell me like that

[Gypyx]

BrightEyeFished has popped in twice to say nothing of substance; granted, they did so when the game just began. Tentative scum lean there, but it could easily swing the other direction.

I'm still tying to figure out whats going on.

Does anyone have a list of the "claims" made so far? If not, I'll try not to forget to make one later.

Good start.

Gypyx : Town Parallel Universe (ascetic)
Endless terror : Ascetic
Pelican : *Negative Utility Variant Role*

These are all the serious claims i think

[Gypyx]

Ah okay i see

[Gypyx]

Ok so 2 parallel universes huh, idk what to think of that

You want me to claim the part i left out?

[Gypyx]

Hmmm okay, i think your alignement will be solvable by endgame so i'm good with assuming you're town too

@72, why am I lockscum?

[Gypyx]

ok: gyp was your opening claim truthful?

I reassess that i'm a town ascetic yep

I'll make some more posts soon

Also boonskies i'm wondering, you're creating that flavor just by yourself?

[Gypyx]

Yes and yes

[Gypyx]

Hey so, why is samantha getting wagonned exactly? It seems mostly like low-explaination votes compared to the rest of this game

[Gypyx]

Oh ok, bye then, could we just get some reads before that?

But I kinda agree on the problem tbh, the mech talk is fine, but the pace of the game is really, like, dense

[Gypyx]

99% sure bell / tsunami aren't S/S

More content from bell would be appreciated

[Gypyx]

Nah it's fine, jobs before mafia, good luck

[Gypyx]

Hey so, why is samantha getting wagonned exactly? It seems mostly like low-explaination votes compared to the rest of this game

Ehh, I feel the same about

BEF

votes.

99% sure bell / tsunami aren't S/S

More content from bell would be appreciated

A post that is like a lot of others. Implication of knowing players that I don't.

Is

Bell

a busser?

~Taly

I'm personally on BEF as a gut read, but i'm re-evalutaing my reads rn, waiting for a vc before saying anything

i don't know bell / minimally knew noraa and 72 so it ain't a meta read, based of their interactions, i find it pretty clear that they are going for some weird and unlikely bussing, or not partners

[Gypyx]

hewwo is anyone thewe?

Yeah i'm here

[Gypyx]

I should do that too yea

[Gypyx]

Anyone got any read on Ircher? I find his iso lengthy but not really readable, which isn't really great tbh

[Gypyx]

like, earlier my solve was like ircher/samantha are never scum together

Where does this come from?

[Gypyx]

my samantha vote is doing fuck all right now but it's definitely my strongest read like. what is the point of shading pelican and saying that voting them doesn't make sense and going onto a wagon that is objectively worse (pelican had votes, nico had none and nico's presence is negative) for like... what? what is the goal here?

Samantha is scummy but imo, to a lesser extent than BEF who is straight-out pocketing our slot and ACTIVELY scummy instead of Samantha who is doing uh... nothing
I might tentatively vote there after me and taylor talk again
-shelly

Why's your vote on vaxkiller if you find BEF actively scummy?

[Gypyx]

like, earlier my solve was like ircher/samantha are never scum together

Where does this come from?

ircher's defense of samantha in 335 and 340, especially given that ircher called samantha null in 159; there's no progression there.

Well, i'd even say that's likely to be scum together right? Like imo, buddies are very capable of quietly townleaning each other by default and also defending each other

[Gypyx]

Why's your vote on vaxkiller if you find BEF actively scummy?

because noraa/72 were even more active scummy and is our biggest SR, y'know
-S

That's fair okay, you'd consider going back to BEF in order to give the replacement some breathing room?

Pedit : yeah i get it, but i'm saying i have the opposite opinion

[Gypyx]

Time is a concept

Is time an instrument?

[Gypyx]

trying to foster goodwill i guess? it goes both ways but for me it feels like something that is so obvious in how it's played out. that's bold as hell if it is scum and i don't know if bef would do something like that

*deep breath*

this is the progression
BEF a day ago: ET IS SCUM (we already claimed ascetic [REDACTED] at that point)
BEF a day later: eh ok ET we are working with you we will untunnel you
us: whys that
BEF: "Well assuming you are town, I would not want you to tunnel another town.
If you are scum then this is all for naught anyways."
us: do you scumread us then?
BEF: No, but I'm not locktowning you either.

this is such a dodgy and fencesitting response to all our questions and finally saying "GTH town" in the end. while not really fleshing it out either.

-shelly

Shoutout, I feel this post, I'm going to reread

BEF

again, I keep gut townleaning due to tone and stances that I don't benefit scum here? But I do want to reread.

I encourage

Gypyx

to talk to me about his reread of the slot.

~Taly

Well after rereading i think BEF is nullscum, the stances are kinda town as you pointed out, but i think scum!BEF could have those, depending on his skill as scum

I'm also not a fan of the way he softed PR

[Gypyx]

I had a dream that BrassHerald came in as a backup mod and modconfirmed two people fighting. I think I have ptsd

Scummy dream ngl

VOTE: samantha

/s

[Gypyx]

Yeah i'll just go back to BEF, not convinced by the current wagons

VOTE: BrightEyedFish

[Gypyx]

intent to hammer

If i die tonight, i'd adivse to keep a look on ircher / maybe gamma and BEF

[Gypyx]

VOTE: vaxkiller

this is exe-1

[Gypyx]

UNVOTE:

Giving time to TBP to make their post

[Gypyx]

Lmao nice altslip

Pedit : that must've been the secret 16th player chill out guys

[Gypyx]

Lmao nice altslip

Pedit : that must've been the secret 16th player chill out guys

OH MY GOD NO FUCK SHIT HELL
please tell me you know what foolishness you've just invoked.

Did i just accidentally summon cthulu?

[Gypyx]

Lmao nice altslip

Pedit : that must've been the secret 16th player chill out guys

OH MY GOD NO FUCK SHIT HELL
please tell me you know what foolishness you've just invoked.

Did i just accidentally summon cthulu?

Nooo but you made an accidental reference. Unless you INTENDED the reference.

T'was an accidental refence, now i need to know please x)

Pedit : yeah, vax you need to full claim, only way you miiiiight not get exed

[Gypyx]

Lmao nice altslip

Pedit : that must've been the secret 16th player chill out guys

OH MY GOD NO FUCK SHIT HELL
please tell me you know what foolishness you've just invoked.

Did i just accidentally summon cthulu?

Nooo but you made an accidental reference. Unless you INTENDED the reference.

T'was an accidental refence, now i need to know please x)

Pedit : yeah, vax you need to full claim, only way you miiiiight not get exed

danganronpa
won't say more in a public avenue where I might spoil a bunch of people

Oh right, hectic, the 16 th player, hiding somewhere in the forum, the one they call the ultimate moderator, watch out for him

[Gypyx]

yo gamma/tay/gypyx, did y'all read 833?

Yep, i was just in a shitposting mood, i'll make good posts soon

[Gypyx]

Party at ET's house.

I'll catch up with Taly asap.

~Titus

its not gonna be a very fun party, since we live out in the woods on a remote monastery and lock the gates. YOU ARENT INVITED.
-tay

Yo can i Chill with you in the parallel dimension?

[Gypyx]

Also uhh i know i promised some posts so i'll try to do that quick

[Gypyx]

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Your go

[Gypyx]

kind of a moot point but im feeling good with BEF, interesting that you think it could be scum still, how experienced are you with BEF?

i think i know what you mean by the soft but ill shelve it here.

I'm not experienced with BEF, i'm just assuming with what i'm seeing of his play so far / what he's saying about himself

And for the soft stuff, that's just a thing that's worth keeping in mind, it's day 1, reads are rarely set in stone anyways

[Gypyx]

Ok so that explains the 2 Ascetics, at least to some degree

VOTE: Happy Unbirthday i kinda wanna see where this will be going

Pedit : why that ari / tgp / nico pool?

[Gypyx]

also those flips prove me/gypyx IC. you all should treat us as ICs, scum!commuter doesn't have motivation to hardclaim D1 as well.
-shelly

Oh uh ok you wanna out that? Well i'll

confirm

just to make sure everyone is aware

[Gypyx]

Oh, sorry :/

Why would claiming commuter bait the kill tho

[Gypyx]

You literally claimed commuter first though, at least scum won't shoot us now

[Gypyx]

gonna be real i was so tired gypyx was like confirming in the thread as an actual ic

IC commuter

Epic

[Gypyx]

Also, that means scum was aware of us being commuters or something ET

[Gypyx]

So really, revealing now is actually more helpful in order to avoid town confusion down the line

Pedit : """"""""""decided"""""""""""" (no offense lmao)

[Gypyx]

So, i think it's safe to say we're IC's now, Right?

[Gypyx]

Yeah i'll get to it HUB, just making sure everyone is on the same page y'know

yddad

[Gypyx]

Taylor was the alt of a banned user

[Gypyx]

Gypyx, what're your current reads?

I need to reread but rn i'd say

Town - shellyc / HBB
Leantown - Ydrasse / Samantha / Shoshin
Idk help - Gamma / Bell
These guys are in the game? - TGP / Ari
Leanscum - BEF / HUB

[Gypyx]

I think the weirdest thing I find about GX right now is how he has not reacted to this conversation between me and shelly pretty much at all, I kinda feel like he hasn't read or has only barely read like the last 6 pages, which while it is low information a lot of it was just directly about him which is just weird for him to not comment on

I just skimmed those pages yeah, and idk what to say really? Like i've thought a bit about this, from my PoV noraa doesn't talk to scum!shelly about that commuter thingy after she claims ascetic 99.99% of the time, but i think i've kinda exagerrated on me being conf town yeah

[Gypyx]

@BEF to be fair, i though was on vax during the hammer, i'm ok with you not taking that into account just wanted to get that there

[Gypyx]

(Ari is at Exe-2)

I mean, if he's not playing the game, wagoning him won't bring much right?

Pedit : damnit i got sniped

[Gypyx]

Ok so, i kinda like BEF's / HUB's recent posting, does that mean i'll have to actually scumhunt? Ughh

UNVOTE:

Also mod that flavor isn't depressing wtf

[Gypyx]

Tbh
Who sussed Nico and moved to Ari after Nico got replaced? That might be a good place to look?

Why exactly, you think player going for inactive persons are most likely scum?

[Gypyx]

THIS IS EXE-1

[Gypyx]

scum!ari fits the general direction too, i agree

[Gypyx]

(The game's*)

[Gypyx]

i take back what i said earlier, pretty sure that hammer is scum

[Gypyx]

oh well, i take back what i said earlier²

[Gypyx]

It's just super weird and awkward because Ari just said he was going to be busy working on a project so I'm not sure why he thought a reaction test at that moment made sense

My fake hammers aren't just for a reaction from who was hammered, its also on how other people react to it. Ari shut it down right away though.

How do you read my reaction to the hammer?

[Gypyx]

given the likelihood there's some non-group scum

Why do you think that?

[Gypyx]

Do you still believe this with the Tsunami flip? What is your current read on Bell?

I don't really remember why i made that read (i'll try to re-skim in search of reasons) but i'll trust past me and consider bell as town

[Gypyx]

i'll trust past me and consider bell as town

Why did past-you think bell was town?

Read the first half of the post you quoted

[Gypyx]

Third Party? Withholding

there's that tho... so idk really, maybe a traitor could be a thing yeah

[Gypyx]

Ok so i'm here, todo :
Find why i excluded Tsunami / Bell being S/S
Find scum

[Gypyx]

Ok so... this

I’m not sure they’re replacing out and not just lurking

Was why i though they weren't S/S, like, that seems kind of like a wild assumption to make about your scumbuddy

[Gypyx]

Warlocked = scum encouraging a town to push another town player

[Gypyx]

tbh I'm losing faith that Ari will eventually come in and do good things here

Who knows but I don't see anything else coming out of today unless activity really picks up. I'll move back to Ari if the Bell wagon doesn't go through.

I don't know what else to say though for now.

What do you think about my point on bell / tsunami not being S/S?

[Gypyx]

so hub is town
gypyx is town
ydrasse is town
...and that's it. i'm not sure why it's been so difficult to establish a solid townblock this game but i'll read back over and give a readslist in a bit.

Shelly is town also

[Gypyx]

I try to avoid listening to meta though, especially self-meta

Bottom text

[Gypyx]

so hub is town
gypyx is town
ydrasse is town
...and that's it. i'm not sure why it's been so difficult to establish a solid townblock this game but i'll read back over and give a readslist in a bit.

Shelly is town also

can you succinctly explain why shelly is town other than her having the same role as you? that's the reason i've gathered for you having that read and idk if there's something else

Uh, it was something else, but me searching for the quote made me realize that I mixed the events so you can forget about shelly conftown, sorry

Just that this :

Is it like commuting or what?

-confusionbeario

Was said in a discussion about me claiming to be ascetic, i though it was about shelly
I think it conftowns me because in a scum!me world why would scum!noraa ever mention what she know is what i'm really claimaing as a question

[Gypyx]

Noraa also struggles with basic setup info, no offense, that’s just how she is.

That's not even setup info, it's just that like, as scum i would've done

"Hey guys imma claim ascetic ok?"

And then there would be no reason for noraa to ask about commuting because she would know that i am a commuter in reality

[Gypyx]

Ohhhh another commuting, spicy

Anyways yeah as shelly pointed out commuter can only self-target

Am I the only one feeling like there are too many townreads?

[Gypyx]

What are the odds that scum has a strongman?

[Gypyx]

the other possibility being maybe like GX was scum ascetic and just changed his claim to commuter because it would get him towncred from shelly but that still seems oddly convoluted to me

I see no reason to believe Gypyx isn't just a scum parallel universe, as I've suggested for a while. Behavior-wise, Gypyx is one of the scummiest players.

this

[Gypyx]

So... shoshin, you're a commuter too, but you still managed to receive a message / whatever?

[Gypyx]

Gypyx, how do you feel about voting Gamma?

Need to re-read gamma, don't really recall getting scumpings / townpings from them, so that's

pretty

bad for them imo

[Gypyx]

I claim N1 kill lightning rod

is this a meme I'm unfamiliar with or a serious claim?

Not a full meme but it wasn’t serious

Huh, ok so i was reading gamma's ISO, and i noticed this, we theorized that scum had a redirecting ability right? Well look at that, idk, is it too far fetched?

VOTE: Gamma

Exe-1

[Gypyx]

Oh well, would've liked a claim beforehand :/

[Gypyx]

Samantha goes in the susp pool for that i think

Pedit : wth

[Gypyx]

So you admit you just wanted to speedhammer basically? Like you're saying "y'all should've kept the speedhammer away from me cuz i was gonna yoink it anyways"

Or am I misundersteanding?

Pedit : we'll just look at the flip i guess, the vibe around this post-exe is kinda weird

[Gypyx]

Bef, i'd like a fullclaim please

[Gypyx]

I'm a daydoctor commuter

heal : ydrasse

[Gypyx]

You think scum ydra wouldn't panick?

[Gypyx]

Also BEF, did you make any crumbs?

[Gypyx]

VOTE: bell

[Gypyx]

HBB you claim vt ?

And a modified bus driver maybe?

Or hbb / bell are just buddies

[Gypyx]

Basically yes

Pedit : wdym not also

[Gypyx]

Have you tried searching the expiration date

[Gypyx]

(nods and takes notes like i understand entirely the mechanics of what might've happened) (i am still mildly confused about the gambit thing but i don't think it's something i Have to understand?)

the loyal fruit vendor is the strongest town investigative role claimed to date. Gambiting fruit receptions when there's a missing fruit reception has two potential scum benefits:
1) it can make the results of that investigative role less certain (meaning a guilty on bell would be less certain)
2) it can misdirect results, makings someone guilty appear to be innocent (as HBB could be doing for himself)

so gambiting fruit vendor receptions can very easily be a game winning strategy for scum, hence why HBB's claim of reception does need scrutiny.

Thinking about it more, there are some concerns here. Namely this now requires two different behaviors for a scum variant:
-the scum have a CONFIRMED ability to kill commuting players (shoshin)
-scum have a SUSPECTED ability to bus drive players (HBB's claim of fruit reception)

that being the case, HBB's claim seems much weaker compared to the death of Shoshin, and given *there can only be one variant scum role* (since the town variant of pelican already flipped) this does create the risk that HBB is just lying scum in this scenario

Or hold on : additional setup spec time

Maybe scum has a bus driver that can bus drive commuted peoples out of the parralel universe ? That way it would be both the strongman and the driver

Although that means HBB is fake... i'll try to go away from pushing him

[Gypyx]

But the magical fairy is pretty synergistic with BEF's role, like, it *might* be some kind of some mod-provided fake claim but i doubt it

[Gypyx]

So... does anyone read bell as town currently?

[Gypyx]

Why are not writing a counterwall then?

[Gypyx]

That explains why i suck at this game

[Gypyx]

It was nice playing with you! Good luck on your job interview!

[Gypyx]

HBB I have a theory you're not a VT!

Want to claim so we can do a final PoE?

Also TGP is that just your read or are you making a mech claim adjustment?

This is an absurd theory and you should be ashamed for even daring to think about it

[Gypyx]

It was irony, should've made this clearer

[Gypyx]

HECTIC IS HERE?! O_o

Uhhh hmmmmmmm why did tsunami make this post?

Is there a world this was actually a massive slip?

How is that a slip exactly? I'd like to hear more on that

Especially considered that HBB presumably received fruit from bell

[Gypyx]

Uhh there's a world where hectic had access to scum pt on his main and posted there and noraa meant to reply to his presence there instead of here and slipped

Why does noraa know hectic is in this game on page 2 without a scum pt interaction to that effect? I'm just baffled by that post's existence

It was in reaction to endless terror's post though, maaaaaybe that's kinda excessive, but i think my paranoia on HBB is strong enough already not not add even more stuff

Pedit : lemme re-read HBB's early game, it was the tone / i felt a pretty good mindset coming from him from what i recall, and spam's okay, i've seen worse

[Gypyx]

Okay so yeah, i liked the laid back but still solving tone that HBB had

With that gtg, i'll answer later

[Gypyx]

Recharged?

Who did u fn?

[Gypyx]

Is it like commuting or what?

-confusionbeario

I feel like someone already talked about this post being important (shoshin?) But it still really jumps out at you on reread lol

I'd kinda like shelly, gx, and ydra to all comment on their current take of this post when they can

Well, imo there are 2 possible reasons for that post

- a mafia commuter

- a mafia informed

I think that given the density of PR's, we can reasonably guess that we are in a 11v4, plus informed *some kind of strongman* is a weird role to put imo

[Gypyx]

Eh, maybe I shouldn't have. I wonder if you guys would've forced me to with a claim or die situation if I really insisted not on doing so.

The person I FNed is confirmed town. You really want me to say? YIKIWN - crumb

I guess it's up to you if you feel like we'd benefit from that player being revealed, and what's the recharged modifier?

[Gypyx]

Or how about we don't play puzzles and you give us that person with the associated crumbs?

[Gypyx]

Hmmm, still kinda hard for my dumb brain, could you like drop the avatar and the whole combined ISO of everyone in the pool?

On a serious note, kinda weird for the person you FN'd to push you semi-hard

[Gypyx]

still TGP is scum

im wondering if there *are 4 scum* as Bell assumed tmr!lylo with "Town!Bell" so was that a TMI that there are 4 scummos?

Ye 99% we're in 4 scums

Like, that's way too many PR's for 3 scum

[Gypyx]

Really, that's all i am to you a gimmick account ?

I though i was special, don't even log on me again

[Gypyx]

But you're my favourite gimmick account to post as! Samantha is a close second though, because I like gaslighting people by very slightly changing my avatar every time I login as her.

I'm actually unsure if she had a different avatar before where she was facing to the left or if that was in a mafia dream...

It's too late, don't even try to apologize

I'd vote you if u weren't conftown

Pedit : what do you think are the odds of a TGP / ari scumteam?

[Gypyx]

Hmmm... i could exe-1 that tbh

Like, my current mindset is really dependant on ari scum, would be better to flip him imo

[Gypyx]

do you think I'm rabbit holing shelly, GX? Does the game make more sense or less sense to you with Shelly scum?

I kinda struggle to see the whole scumteam claiming VT when there are so many PR claims ye

[Gypyx]

I'll personally wait to see what ari got to say before hammering tbh

[Gypyx]

Oh, well, good luck for your work ari

[Gypyx]

one's broken, long story short, i'll probably not post in the coming ~12 hours

[Gypyx]

if I was a betting man I'd think GX was the kill tonight, not sure on that but I'd like him to give a reads list before this dayphase ends in case I end up being right

Right now, if klick flips scum, i'd say my read list goes like this :

CONFTOWN
HUB / TGP
Strong Townlean
HBB / Samantha
Townlean
Ydrasse
Null
Shellyc

If klicks flis town, i'd like to assume tommorw is ExeLo to start off

CONFTOWN
Hbb
Strong townlean
Hub
Townlean
Samatha / ydrasse
Nullscum
Tgp / shellyc

[Gypyx]

If we don't flip klick my reads list looks the town flip one

[Gypyx]

Yeah

[Gypyx]

I think there's only 1 scum in the VT claims pool

(And wait for catchup, sorry not woke up properly lol)

[Gypyx]

Not much i think

Scum has a way to kill commuters

That's all?

[Gypyx]

Why again shelly?

[Gypyx]

btw TGP!green after klick!red is based off what? not enough town in vt claim pool?

Yea

[Gypyx]

It technically could yeah, but we have at least 2/3 real VT's, so...

Pedit : deathVT? That would be variant

[Gypyx]

I think both Samantha and Ydrasse's roles almost certainly need to be accurate if this setup is gonna be fair to scum. On top of that, Ydrasse's role feels really icky as a scum role so I kinda wanna town-bin her as well

PEdit: will do. Might have to get around to finishing it in the next few hours, the little one will demand a walk soon.
Just based on that description I'd say there's definitely something fishy going on with the Gypyx/shelly situation and I'm surprised that isn't talked about much today.

I get it for Ydrasse but why samantha?

[Gypyx]

Third Party? Withholding

And no real evidence of 3p

[Gypyx]

Reads as I read through but with no reasoning attached:

Gamma

- Town
HBB - Nullscum?

HUB

- Nulltown?
Shelly/EndlessTerror - Scummy
Sam - Towny
Ydrasse - Towny

Bell

- Scummy

BEF

- Towny

look at that f'n readslist lmao

Putting all his partenrs as scum lmao, i respect that

Yeah i could hammer now tbh

[Gypyx]

Ah I saw the two N1 deaths but forgot the 'Hider' bit for a sec, mb

I think something worth looking into is whether there's any evidence of either of the flipped scum having prior knowledge of Gypyx/shelly's real roles before they were claimed in full. If they seem genuinely convinced about the Ascetic claims, then that bodes well for Gypyx/shelly town, but if they're generally disinterested or it's unclear, that could mean they already knew something was up. Something I'll be looking out for as I read

Noraa knew 99.99% there were commuters in game

[Gypyx]

I won't hammer don't worry, just that it's extremely tempting

[Gypyx]

99% sure bell / tsunami aren't S/S

More content from bell would be appreciated

loool

I find myself subconsciously sorting Gypyx as town and ET as the potential scum between the commuters but I can't put concrete reasons behind it. Something about Gypyx's approach all throughout early D1 feels passive in a way that doesn't match with the early Ascetic claim from a scum perspective.

This aged poorly yes

[Gypyx]

I kinda stopped reading for the purpose of getting reads during the Vax claim soap opera, that shit was too entertaining. So I guess props to Vax for doing something for the scumteam with that play

Party at ET's house.

I'll catch up with Taly asap.

~Titus

its not gonna be a very fun party, since we live out in the woods on a remote monastery and lock the gates. YOU ARENT INVITED.
-tay

Yo can i

C

hill with you in the parallel dimension?

This is a crumb isn't it? (bold added by me)

Uhh... maybe lol i don't remember this, but it looks like my way of crumbing, i've done random crumbs here and there, didn't really put them to use lmao

[Gypyx]

Oh fuck i saw the role pm, do i have to replace out?

[Gypyx]

Anyways don't get fooled by scum!klick guys, i'm not voting somewhere else today

VOTE: klick

[Gypyx]

I'm gonna try okay

[Gypyx]

guys I have a confession

what game is this meme from I feel so out of the loop on this one

Silent star 2 menagerie

[Gypyx]

Ok so... i kinda need to find back my motivation to play this game tbf

I'll try to make a case on klick himself, my read on him is mostly based off ari

[Gypyx]

Gypyx did you ever explain why you initially claimed Ascetic in the first place?

nope but basically, i was pretty sure there was going to be some loyal thingy in the town, so i wanted to avoid getting false guiltied / town wasting actions on me bascially, but i didn't wanna claim commuter in case scum had a strongman / to try to make them waste a bullet on me

[Gypyx]

me being claimed ascetic made it ~kinda~ unlikelier but i've thought that if i obvtowned suifficently they would try to kill me anyways

[Gypyx]

Yeah the strongman is implied from the shoshin death / the claimed sam target on pelican n1

@gx can you link your scum games? where does this rep for not being very present as scum come from?

Just check my wiki, it's up to date

But yeah, i've been consistently posting less as scum than as town, i'm not sure where this comes from

[Gypyx]

And i kinda get what you're saying hub, but there also needs to be a way for scum to be informed about commuters

Does informed magical fariy (there are 2 / 3 roles names town parralel universe (commuter)) seems like a possible role?

[Gypyx]

UNVOTE:

I need to think about stuff

[Gypyx]

Yeah it is kinda

But like, it seems to me that scum being informed of what are the unique roles is a pretty realistic thought

Pedit : well, i'm wondering if i'm just not tunneled on ari, and the game is also getting kinda wild rn i feel

[Gypyx]

right but you seemed really certain before, what prompted that moment of certainty?

I kinda made it more certain than i actually was tbf, like, i was / still kinda am pretty confident he's scum but around 70%, just that i was seeing him slip away from the exe

[Gypyx]

Well, i individually come to a conclusion that shelly / ari were my 2 top scumreads, and then you showed the asscociations they had, which got me pretty convinced tbh

I don't get why you mention gamma though

[Gypyx]

Spec around commuters, and shelly never made me want to yeet her into the sun, but never *actually* was that town, which is a very bad look, not even considering her meta also going this way

[Gypyx]

Spec around commuters, and shelly never made me want to yeet her into the sun, but never *actually* was that town, which is a very bad look, not even considering her meta also going this way

So shelly scum would be TMI on Noraa + early hard defense of Bell on BS? You mean the Bell/Shelly associatives right, not shelly/Ari, sorry your one post earlier confused me for a sec

I was looking at that again and it's hard to tell since bell and shelly have such weirdly warped metas surrounding each others' play

I kinda need to actually try to peice the puzzle but i meant the ari / shelly associative you dropped actually, like am i misremembering?

Anyways imma sleep, night

[Gypyx]

I'll personally wait to see what ari got to say before hammering tbh

This is a strong contrast to what Gypyx did after the Ari slot started saying things

I always let peoples say what they have to say

And my reasons for SR'ing ari were that he was inactive day 1, where town kinda seemed to roll unnoposed, and same for the wagon on bell, which like, unless scum is hyperbussing, we should have had more trouble to get through

Also i think HUB very likely was targeted by bell's fruit vend N1 as no one claimed it so we can consider him as conftown ~i think~, like 95%

[Gypyx]

Also i think HUB very likely was targeted by bell's fruit vend N1 as no one claimed it so we can consider him as conftown ~i think~, like 95%

Why HUB specifically? PoE?


Shelly replacement is posting good stuff.
I felt really strongly on reading that Ydrasse was town, and Mafia Commuter Enabler feels icky af to me as a role. This setup looks horribly unbalanced to me without her role as well. Like I'll go back and look at her ISO when I get a chance but it really doesn't feel right.

We have 3 VT claims

You
HUB
TGP

I don't see scum ever checking you / TGP N1, and HUB claimed VT, which could be seen as a big WIFOM play by scum

[Gypyx]

Plenty of reasons for lack of presence. Has TGP fallen behind in a fast game as scum before? This game is fairly fast-paced.

Let me check

I don't think I've seen scum!TGP in a large

But have you seen town!tgp?

[Gypyx]

i'll try to readd that game

[Gypyx]

Oh god 333 pages

On second thoughts, i'm *not* doing that

[Gypyx]

Shelly and i were claimed commuters, we know shoshin wasn't commuted N1 because HBB fn'd her

[Gypyx]

And samantha enchanted pelican N1, who was also a claimed PR

[Gypyx]

Ircher could have been targeted as well I suppose?
Not that this argument means much, I think HUB is town regardless.
Bell could have also committed the N1 kill

That's fair, just saying it adds to the certainetly

@boon is parrallel universe (commuter) considered a variant role?

Can there be more than 2 variant roles if we have duplicates of the same variants?

[Gypyx]

I'm gonna try to make a big delve in setup spec tonight so you'll have to wait for my answer

[Gypyx]

The only replacement i can accept will now be "replacement for replacement for shellyc"

[Gypyx]

i still need boon to answer my question before starting the spec

So here's a meme in the meantime

Spoiler:

Pedit : lol, hbb beats me to memeing

[Gypyx]

hectic you multiaccounter

lol

Woooow

The boldness

[Gypyx]

Lmao I looked at sgb thread and then came back here and nearly mainslipped

Anyway I think shelly/ydra last night was s/s theater, who disagrees with that solve?

I don't necessarly view what happened as theater but that a possible solve yeah

(To be fair a lot of solves are possible rn)

[Gypyx]

Interesting, could you develop on that one?

[Gypyx]

Hmmmm, those are very good point i'll probably follow your vote there cause i don't think i'm able to read stuff well actually lol

Also what does tinfoil mean? Everyone uses it but i have no clue what's the meaning lol

Also, if like, both enchantress and enabler are town, the enchantress can just sit on the enabler and the commuters are unkillable for like 2 nights in litterally the worst case scenarion

[Gypyx]

Oof

I find my theory perfectly reasonable but ok lol

[Gypyx]

Hub is town btw koba,

[Gypyx]

VOTE: ydrasse


If this ain't scum pretty sure sam is

[Gypyx]

Hub is town btw koba,

what was written after that second comma?

Huh, nothing lol, i guess i didn't wake up properly

[Gypyx]

Not even that lol, idk what happened

[Gypyx]

Hey, currently christmas for me and i'm trying to configure my new phone, i'll try to get back hère soon

(Aldo holy fuck that's disturbing to use a New keyboard)

[Gypyx]

yeah so i managed to procrastinate procrastinating, i'm that good

anyways, any reason i shouldn't immediatly cast my vote on you for that hammer samantha?

[Gypyx]

yeah that, why end the day when discussion was going well / being productive?

[Gypyx]

GX I did have some Qs for you but what you asked sam now is probs more important

why wait for the answer?

[Gypyx]

gx how sure are u on HUB town and why is that

well, basically, he's pretty town first, but also there's the fact that we didn't receive any fruit claim N1 while bell was a complex fruit vendor, that means he investigated a VT because all the commuting roles were claimed / unused so my guess was that he's pretty fucking likely to be investigated as he claimed VT hyper early

[Gypyx]

you guys are doing christmas today?

[Gypyx]

well idk, i celebrated it the 24, might just be me given that almost no one is posting lol

[Gypyx]

oh wait shit i misread your post, yeah i'll try to answer those

[Gypyx]

I still want to hear GX's take on the last ten pages as a gentlemanly courtesy even though I have pretty high confidence on Ydra/Sam as the solve.

I'd still consider testing Sam on self-hammer tho lmao

about this post?

also, can't wait to see that bell did in fact fruit vend you N1 to prove that theory is legit lol

[Gypyx]

hmmm... good question, i think it's okay to rule out klick for today, so the only team other than that would be Koba / Ydra

i think shellyc doing a 180 on thier reads isn't as much of a scumclaim that you describe it is, like idk, maybe she was just voluntarily playing different to fool anyone who had doubt

or maybe i'm wearing a tinfoil hat, who knows

yeah sorry but i'm really not able to reduce the PoE more than that

and if sam is scumclaiming, explain to me why youb consider a team without them?

[Gypyx]

shoshin wasn't commuted N1

and yeah but like, you wanna FV someone that you consider killing, does *anyone* in this list looks really killable apart from hub? (in the N1 state of the game)

but hey, i mean, idk, just drop that conversation i think that would be better

pedit : hey, my telepathic powers worked

[Gypyx]

well, i'd personally rather vote ydra than sam, cuz like, there's a scummy townie between sam / shellyslot / ydra, and sam better fits that profile

also i'd VERY VERY like it if sam gave me like a single reason why that hammer doesn't come from scum

[Gypyx]

hmmm... good question, i think it's okay to rule out klick for today, so the only team other than that would be Koba / Ydra

i think shellyc doing a 180 on thier reads isn't as much of a scumclaim that you describe it is, like idk, maybe she was just voluntarily playing different to fool anyone who had doubt

or maybe i'm wearing a tinfoil hat, who knows

yeah sorry but i'm really not able to reduce the PoE more than that

and if sam is scumclaiming, explain to me why youb consider a team without them?

she was trying to fool mods that she wasnt shellyc rather than play the game imo.

well of course that's your opinion you're in that slot

[Gypyx]

ok well whats ur explaination for scum!shelly having done that? it would be literally the same theory.

wydm?

[Gypyx]

that first quote is wrong and not supposed to be there i’m tipsy but the second one ....

what's wrong about it then?

pedit : well, it's not townie stuff, it's more that i see the scummy stuff more easily coming from town

ppedit : not gonna read all those pedits

[Gypyx]

hmmmm just had a realization that sam / ydra can't be the team based on claims i think

gotta think of that, sorry ydra answers will wait

[Gypyx]

on second thoughts i have decided of my own free will that i shall keep chatting

[Gypyx]

that first quote is wrong and not supposed to be there i’m tipsy but the second one ....

what's wrong about it then?

pedit : well, it's not townie stuff, it's more that i see the scummy stuff more easily coming from town

ppedit : not gonna read all those pedits

the first quote wasn’t meant 2 be quoted was what i meant

and then... what makes the “scummy” stuff from me/koba less likely 2 come from town then?

yes so, what's wrong with the second post that's what i asked


basically, you it's claim, unless like, the setup is really fucked up, you're scum

koba, it's the rep behaviour i could see town!shelly doing this, but the 180 is kinda unecessary for her to take as town

and samantha, it's a really shit hammer, which i can see come from very bad town or refuge in audacity scum

[Gypyx]

also gypyx was off wagon on scum on d1

i was thinking my vote was on vax that day

[Gypyx]

hmmmm just had a realization that sam / ydra can't be the team based on claims i think

what makes you think this?

well, basically, unless one of them is a traitor, do you think they go "yes we are gonna claim those two things that when combined together will create 3 bulletproof townies upon the correct scum's death, nothing wrong there"?

[Gypyx]

nope u unvoted them LOOOOOOL


u werent sure if they were a scum PR so u went off wagon didnt u.

ur traitor.

samantha is imporatnt scum PR

samantha bussed partner bc theyre just a goon and it gives them towncred.


we figured it out

yeah i unvoted them, but i forgot about that and didn't think about puttingnmy vote back

also, traitor commuter with mafia having a strongman is dumb af

[Gypyx]

my behaviour trough this whole game and an informed traitor (there are commuters) being even dumber?

pedit : koba tbh you have no interest acting like that as town, just stop if you care about faking your alignement pls

[Gypyx]

yeah but like, take it from an outside POV (about my theory) i even think you brang it up, if they are both town, and we somehow get the magical fairy D1, the role syngery is extremely high which would be something that i doubt gets passed in review

[Gypyx]

CAN Y'ALL SLOW DOWN THE POSTS LMAO