electoral college mafia (now its done watch it go)

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Then again, if I'm scum trying to maximize info, wouldn't that be a worse check for me as scum?

You as scum just lie about your check/protect targets.

There’s too many protectives before your claim.

There is supposedly an alien that messages.
There was a jailkeep who messages.
And then you a claimed doctor rolecop

I think either you or the alien are scum

Which means two distinct solves I am working with

And I think you scum is the more probable.

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Then again, if I'm scum trying to maximize info, wouldn't that be a worse check for me as scum?

I dunno. What sense to check someone, who you will nightkill anyway.

Though, i realised, if you are mafia, you would claim something more plausable, especially if roleblocked. My opinion about your choice of action is notchanged, but i ask you, if you survive this day: You should check either Cop/Mastina next night. They are likely targeted and you confirm/disapprove them for rest of the game.

Unless other people have better thoughs of course.

I think if Auro is scum he will do as he pleases
I think if Auro is town scum have prioritized not killing Mastina.
So if scum kill Mastina now it’s for a reason.

Imho much as Mastina is a lock!town for me I think I wanna see Auro protect elsewhere

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Math panic is I rapid post in scum PT.

So? How does that negate my point?

As in I am not rapid posting.

Panic implies a lack of control. I am not panicking here because panic only serves to divide those who are here. Panic doesn’t help get an elim.

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Auro has been scummy all game and just makes sense. His claim just doesn’t make sense/fit.

I really think Moz is scum

I haven’t had time to read because Easter and probably won’t be able to today.

I am stuck between a rock and a hard place because if I explain why I scumread Moz+Auro as hard as I do it involves outing like 3 PRs

Moz/Auro/Vax/Bug is my elim pool and I would hammer any of them.

Especially the first two though.

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https://youtu.be/Z-Ixtkpf_vk

Leaving this here for any enbies/trans people having a rough time over Easter.

<3

Will get back to serious posting tomorrow

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oh hey it’s been 6 hours

math, gun to your head, name 3 scum teams

Mox Vax Auro Bugspray
Mastina Enchant Auro Moz
Moz Auro Tris T3

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VOTE: Bugspray

Vote stays until they give reads.

I kinda have reasons I can’t say yet Mastina but I think if we work together as a team and reflect you might see why Bugs and Auro are likely opposing alignments.

Like I think there’s a bug + Vax group that’s the same alignment
And a Moz+Auro that’s the same alignment
I scumread all of them and don’t think they’re all four a team
But goddamn I don’t see how people just spam Moz town for effort
Ever since I got in Moz setting off my scumdar.
Like bad.

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Okay and....

Hard claims come with actions

And still no reads *yawn*

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How is car a crumb?

I don’t get it.

This reads like scum memeing.

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I don’t troll often but when I do it is obvious.

This just doesn’t seem like a crumb and your play doesn’t match your claims.

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Do you have any reads like I asked?

Like none of this makes you town to me.

Just seems like you’re angry which is NAI.

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tris do you really think scum would have a traffic analyst?

and i dont make readlists sorry. but rn my boom pool is flea, vax, lend (or did that get replaced?), or moz

I do for reasons that are really anti town to say.

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VOTE: Bugspray
Vote stays until they give reads.

I love how Math says this

and then Bugs response is to claim.

Like instead of trying to look towny at all they're just trying to play a get out of jail free card.

By the way I'm gonna be here for a bit but after that it's

V/LA until Wednesday

to prepare for/take my driver's license test.

Good luck on it. Don’t stress most adults fail the first time and some pass. Just be yourself and relax and good luck!

Oh and remember your insurance and id and car is clean etc. You got this!

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This gets clarified pretty quickly if the Noraa slot got a message N1 or not if an alien exists assuming my super spiny powers of deduction work correctly.

If Noraa slot says no then alien exists or (spicy one) + (spicy two) are scum.
If Noraa slot says yes then spicy slot is scum alien doesn’t exist and we get a two for one

And no I won’t explain my moon logic.

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then the alien claim must be wrong

Or your fake claim is just bad

Still waiting on those reads.

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flea please just fucking vote me already so it doesnt look like a bus

Not that fae needed it but thanks for making Flea go from town to conftown with this.

(Y'all are dumb if you think this is scum legitimately scumslipping their scumbuddy here. The options are either scum trying to spew town as scum or scum trying to spew scum as town by making us think that they are scum trying to spew town as scum. I vastly favor the "scum trying to spew town as scum" option here because Flea looks pretty damn town this game.)

The wine is real.

Glug glug waiting on that likely scum flip.

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I don't know what I'm supposed to do with it so I'll just say I got mail last night.

(also my predecessor got mail n1.)

Interesting.

Your predecessor got mail from who?

(I believe I know the answer but I wanna make sure)

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For the record her dying message to me (at least I am assuming it was from her) said that you were town. <3

Oh how interesting.
VOTE: Mastina
She targeted me last night

Well, last night, I was targeted by a mailman. They said they were a town odd-night combined mailman alien, that I was both roleblocked and rolestopped. (They apologized for blocking my actions, which is unfortunate, because I did use an action last night--ironically enough, *I* targeted *you*.) They then said they didn't have much more to say, other than townreading you, thinking I am town, and wanting thoughts on Auro; they gave me a code word to confirm it was from them. They also specified a way beyond the code word to reveal to me.

But I assumed it was from Momrangal doing a gambit, that she lied about being odd-night alien with her really being a jailkeeper and that the message originated from her.

I suppose my assumption could've been wrong, but I very much did receive a message with the above as the contents of it and it at least somewhat checks out since I know for a fact that my action on you failed.

Just posting this here for no apparent reason that will become apparent later.

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Nevermind this is the mom bullshit again.

Ugh this is confusing.

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Nah.

Who the alien PR is is obvious just matters alignment.

Unless Mastina scum is your argument there is proof they exist because reasons.

I kinda wanna do Auro mastina.

We agree there I did bugspray yesterday you do Auro with me?

VOTE: Auro

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Btw I am sad I think Flea is scum

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Yeah I don’t like the len push

My current PoE based on gut (no VCA been busy) is Auro Moz Flea Vax. I am aware that’s too many but those slots are pinging me.

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...this is a lot of words no mention of who you checked again.

C’mon now

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So. There are my thoughts.

Auro checked+healed Mastina and claims she indeed got 100% townie role. So, either Auro and Mastina both mafia, or just Auro.

I am not sure with setup though. Aren't two doctors in one setup looks so powerful to exist? Did moderator hoped they both would protect each other, or gived some ways for mafia to counter that? If Mastina tells truth, there is mafia-role locker, which makes sense as counter for two doctors.

Why mafia risked to kill tris? Which is one of two persons who being checked by Rolecop+Doctor and can waste kill. It even benefit us, it would be big screw if Tris was checked by Auro.

I somewhat believe Jack claim is legit, but there's also coveat, because he can simple claim Roleblocker blocked his kill. Protection can't be confirmed, Cop checks can be easily fabricated, only really confirming thing is Vig shot. Honestly, it would save us from some pain if you shot before claim, but can't blame. Also, why you didn't use Cops from 1n?

Here’s the issue.

There’s two roleblockers (Alien and Mom) and a doctor claim (Auro)

Your argument would be for three protectives not two.

It’s my opinion the alien was scum for a while but I might be warming up to them town.

But if Auro flips town I would be tunneling the person I suspect as Alien here.

If Auro is town and did find the Alien from before I would believe they’d be tunneling that Alien. Since they aren’t and they said the claim on N2 is secret it’s likely Auro just isn’t a rolecop.

If Auro is and town then leverage exists for my gut read before and Mastina I can guess knows who I would be tunneling so if scum kill me she tunnels the Alien or vice versa.

So Auro is a really good elim.

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Actually wait 4 the Joat. Lmao point applies though.

This could be some weird T3 gambit but regardless all these protectives just can’t be town

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Or strongman or ... (fill in the blank)

We don’t know any of what scum have since bugs flipped goon.

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Actually wait 4 the Joat. Lmao point applies though.

Actually, there's five claimed protective roles:
The JOAT's doctor.
The flipped Simple Doctor (notably could not protect PRs tho).
The flipped Messenger-Jailkeeper.
The half-proven (roleblock half definitely proven) odd-night Alien-Messenger.
And Auro's every-night unlimited Combined Doctor+Rolecop.

One of these claims is not like the others imo.
(Jailkeeper has a downside to the protect. Simple Doctor can't protect PRs. JOAT's doctor is one-shot. Alien both has a downside to the protect and is odd-night. What's the downside to an ungated Doctor+Rolecop?)

You expect me to count?

Like am I supposed to be good at math?

(Harmless self ribbing)

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Uhm I am also two shot tracker.

Makes me wish I wasn’t paranoid of Mastina and thinking I would be dead

Or maybe I have a shot left who knows?

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Since they aren’t and they said the claim on N2 is secret it’s likely Auro just isn’t a rolecop.

Why does saying my N2 target is secret imply I'm not a Rolecop?

So many of your arguments this game seem rash and weak.

Because you haven’t demonstrated that you are a rolecop.

Conveniently check the dead guy.
N2 is a secret so you don’t have to out anything.
Last night was Mastina who we pretty much all agree is town.
I just don’t buy your claim here.

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Can we just do Len?
Guaranteed scum as opposed to Auro possible scum.

This is usually a scum tell in most games.
Arguing against the entire block is a bad look.

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If I have a track shot I will be tracking in Auro (if not elimmed), Enchant (if Auro is elimmed), Flea, and Len This is in no particular order and meant to generate wifom.

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This is usually a scum tell in most games.
Arguing against the entire block is a bad look.

So do you think I am scum or not?
I dont know really what you are saying here. Am I arguing against the block? I have been saying Len is scum for a long time, and Auro has been on my list for a while as well -check my ISO.
Put your ego on the shelf and vote Len, and we will lynch scum.

1) First is yes. I still do and I don’t see any reason to believe you’re town. People say you are and don’t explain it where as I have several times why you’re scum. It’s to the point it’s not productive to continue to state it. I just work with the people I townread and go from there.

2) Yes you are. You’re arguing with a majority of the scum pool that len (who seems to be a site flake) is a better elim. This is similar to what Titus was doing with Pooky and scum pounded upon it. If you’re town ask yourself is your Len read so strong that you’re willing to go against me,Mastina, and T3? Are you suspecting a deep wolf? Why are you so against Auro?

3) I have no doubt your ISO says that you scumread both. That’s not my point. My point is that several players are all advocating for a not Auro player and the majority are in the PoE.

That is the problem.

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if people dont want Len, can we at least do Vax?

Especially this post here.

Auro is in your PoE yet you’re looking for excuses otherwise.
Auro despite being very close to hammer isn’t sharing results.

I also have super sekret gut reasons for Auro scum.

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{Vax, Umlaut, Mathblade}?

Umlaut's literally conftown and MathBlade while not conftown is very very very VERY likely to be town because if MathBlade were scum I don't think we'd have had a nightkill on Almost50 N3.

Interesting.

Who do you think I would kill if scum?

I am just sorta curious.

What do you think of Moz if Auro flips red?

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My solve if I die is prolly Moz Auro Len if Auro flips red
If Auro flips green then I have a spicy read but I prolly don’t get NK’d if Auro green and if I do that’s dumb lmao

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Outside chance of Len Vax Auro but I don’t think Moz tries to push Len that hard here without a plan.

I am really sure on Moz Auro just last could be Vax or Len that’s where I am at

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{Vax, Umlaut, Mathblade}?

Umlaut's literally conftown and MathBlade while not conftown is very very very VERY likely to be town because if MathBlade were scum I don't think we'd have had a nightkill on Almost50 N3.

Not seeing how umlaut is conf unless Auro is a red flip.
Probable but not lock

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I'm conftown as long as you believe T3 is town. I think you should believe that but I don't know if it's confirmed?

Right derp

Sleepy math sorry

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Yep looks like Auro’s flipping red.

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Caveat to Mastina being conftown: this is a non-Normal game, I may have missed something.

So then you are still scum.

This is a normal game except for the voting blocks.

Mastina has to be town.

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What caveat you mean?

Mafia can have this role?

Sure can’t.

X is a valid role for normal games but only if town aligned.

Paraphrased from the wiki

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alright, have we lynched definite scum Len yet, or are we gambling on pos. scum Auro?

Lol Moz wow...

Couldn’t write a scummier post if you tried lmao.

Auro’s been hammered and scumclaimed

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Damn I shoulda trusted my initial reads.

I wanted to cooperate too much

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Thanks for the game and GG everyone

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For me the Scum Neighbourhood was just a mod-approved fakeclaim, and sadly I know Mastina well enough to know she'd Conftown me on that when it came to.

No redactions from me, let my play be known to all xD I am absolutely not sorry at all for this.

Yeah that was brutal.
Mastina confirming my scumreads made it difficult.

I couldn’t shake G being scum and now I know why.

Called it the messenger alien was scum.