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Post Post #3310 (isolation #200) » Sun May 16, 2021 3:11 pm

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why was i scumreading Raya? it really was just her being in catchup hell, i think.

also it is a weird play for Andante and Titus to make. i don't really have an explanation for that besides that Titus will do interesting things as scum if she finds it necessary, and Andante has plausible deniability by being incredibly vague and saying that "surely other players have the same thing in their role PM". Nero called this out too.
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Post Post #3315 (isolation #201) » Sun May 16, 2021 3:13 pm

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i don't agree with youuuu Fire

VOTE: flow trap

i'm down to help with this though.
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Post Post #3325 (isolation #202) » Sun May 16, 2021 3:19 pm

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i'm carrying the flame of Nero's will here! Andante's Titus defense smells like baloney! Andante's reads have been lame and she's missing the engagement with the game that would indicate she's town.

but i also agree with murdercat who has been a true beacon of towniness so that's fine too. same with a Titus wagon since she's tied up with what i don't believe about Andante.
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"The CORE is full of lasers, and Chemist1422's entire existence depends on her eye. If she looks into a laser, she will almost certainly die. Did you think about that?"
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Post Post #3327 (isolation #203) » Sun May 16, 2021 3:21 pm

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In post 3318, Toadette wrote:Chara I believed you when you said you scumread me

I have trouble believing you could find a scum!flow trap more interesting than a scum!Isis
who was campaigning for you as scum?

this seems really arbitrary though. you don't think i'd be happier wagoning flow trap than you, why?
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"The CORE is full of lasers, and Chemist1422's entire existence depends on her eye. If she looks into a laser, she will almost certainly die. Did you think about that?"
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Post Post #3328 (isolation #204) » Sun May 16, 2021 3:22 pm

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In post 3326, Raya36 wrote:
In post 3311, Firebringer wrote:
In post 3309, Raya36 wrote:
In post 3307, Firebringer wrote:farkran should have 6 votes on him by now. i am very disappointed in u all
Why do you think farkran is scum again?
intuition and wagon analysis of end of day.
I had farkran as probably not partners but for an interaction reason. But Chara said Farkran is really good at avoiding partner tells. I noted farkran to be early on the MC wagon but besides that why by wagon analysis?
i have no read on Fark this game, though he's leaning towards town just due to how i feel about other slots right now, but my experience with him tells me that it's more likely he actively puts out antipartner tells with his partner as scum than fail to do so.
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Post Post #3331 (isolation #205) » Sun May 16, 2021 3:27 pm

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In post 3330, Toadette wrote:Mmm bcause last time you thought I was slightly suspicious and you didn't follow up on it strongly I murdered you in your sleep and duped everyone and won the game
okay that is actually a good reason.

i guess while you do feel like you might be scum you just feel so different from that Isis. you're speaking differently, playing in a completely different way.
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Post Post #3333 (isolation #206) » Sun May 16, 2021 3:36 pm

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i guess that's kind of stupid but it didn't occur to me to be afraid. i'm on a high here, and i'm trying to think of a nice way to put that your play this game hasn't felt... threatening, the way it did in Nightmares? i'm trying not to townread you for the different vibe because i do strongly believe it's a matter of where your head and heart is at during a given game, and not simply your alignment.

coming in to the day the way you did while thinking singleball did ping though.

this is also @toadette.
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Post Post #3348 (isolation #207) » Sun May 16, 2021 4:07 pm

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i was expecting to find some of the points in murdercat's flow case to be confbias-y (and some are) but the pattern of when flow votes Norwee is pretty convincing. and from Norwee is interesting.

also i do think it is possible scum Fark goes all in to prevent losing his buddy day 1 and having a terrible time the rest of the game (there is a meta element to the mindset there).
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Post Post #3349 (isolation #208) » Sun May 16, 2021 4:08 pm

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In post 3343, Brave Heart Lion wrote:Andante
Nero
Unwnd
Cakes
Dweelee

Colder
Farkan
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Flea

Titus
MC

Save the Dragons
kdowns
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NorwegianboyEE confirmed scum

I made this in my notes last night

Going out with mom tonight, plz be gentle with the posting
Chara isn't on this list?? :<
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Post Post #3357 (isolation #209) » Sun May 16, 2021 4:28 pm

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i think it could include that. the shape of Fark scum in my head is generally good partner play rather than trying to endgame himself. he thinks a lot about things like that and is pretty methodical and deliberate in enacting plans to distance and to get the miselims he wants as scum.

i just don't have any experience with his townplay so i don't know how to tell the difference, i only know the tactics he could use.

i think it's very possible scum Fark decided protecting Norwee was more important than setting himself up as a non-partner, but it's kind of all conjecture at that point. i don't remember who Fark was pushing, either.
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Post Post #3363 (isolation #210) » Sun May 16, 2021 4:38 pm

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In post 3360, Firebringer wrote:not saying i think flow is town btw. just....like feels one case of people being skeptical and sus of someone for posting they don't like because its coming from personality they conflict with (goes to auto scumread territory) feel somewhat similar with kaz in some instances but think people have more meat there.
i don't think it's personality though? the problem with flow isn't that its vote changed a lot, it's specifically the Norwee votes.

but i do agree about Kaz.
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Post Post #3425 (isolation #211) » Sun May 16, 2021 5:24 pm

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VOTE: Andante
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Post Post #3432 (isolation #212) » Sun May 16, 2021 5:26 pm

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In post 3429, Firebringer wrote:
In post 3425, Chara wrote:VOTE: Andante
i swear u get off on disagreeing with me
it's kind of getting there, yeah.
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Post Post #3455 (isolation #213) » Sun May 16, 2021 5:35 pm

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i am listening to lord kdowns and also MY gut, but i did listen to you about flow and you might be right.
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Post Post #3484 (isolation #214) » Sun May 16, 2021 5:43 pm

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In post 3477, Titus wrote:No. Is there a reason to suspect Adante that hasn't been shared?

Kdowns is trolling a guilty on anya just like you trolled a guilty on Farkran.
i mean i did open the day talking about why i suspected Andante, and there's nothing to indicate it's not a serious claim from kdowns... at all.
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Post Post #3488 (isolation #215) » Sun May 16, 2021 5:44 pm

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In post 3485, Toadette wrote:WHERE IS THE REAL GIRL COP
ITS YOU
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Post Post #3499 (isolation #216) » Sun May 16, 2021 5:49 pm

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In post 3494, kdowns wrote:
In post 3486, Shiro wrote:
In post 3453, kdowns wrote:
In post 3449, Firebringer wrote:i almost want to fake an inno on andante because otherwise none of yall will listen to me. So annoying.

Because you can’t. I’m a Dog Cop and I investigated Anda last night and got confirmation on her being a dog.
Ooof plot twist.

I want flavour.
I’m The Brain from Pinky and the Brain
you were in the rodent federation all along!
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Post Post #3507 (isolation #217) » Sun May 16, 2021 5:54 pm

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i think Chara was right!!
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Post Post #3511 (isolation #218) » Sun May 16, 2021 5:56 pm

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Titus, you're not getting eliminated before Andante. and Cakes certainly isn't.
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Post Post #3715 (isolation #219) » Wed May 19, 2021 7:04 am

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the Andante dog miller flip and then two dogs flipping gives me such severe whiplash, i don't even have room to be mad i was wrong about all three of them.
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Post Post #3720 (isolation #220) » Wed May 19, 2021 7:06 am

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In post 3679, SirCakez wrote:can I just sheep other people this game???
Cakes please don't be scum i'm not being wrong three times.
"Sibling," Farkran asked, starting slowly.
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Post Post #3726 (isolation #221) » Wed May 19, 2021 7:10 am

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In post 3719, SirCakez wrote:that replace-out just gives me weird vibes
not to psychoanalyze rep-outs, but the timing doesn't really feel like an AI rep-out to me, it happened right after Andante's flip which doesn't seem like an event that would make scum quit for an ingame reason.
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"The CORE is full of lasers, and Chemist1422's entire existence depends on her eye. If she looks into a laser, she will almost certainly die. Did you think about that?"
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Post Post #3737 (isolation #222) » Wed May 19, 2021 7:14 am

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In post 3724, MURDERCAT wrote:Something in the scum PT that was like "Hey you are dumb for hammering that what are you doing" etc etc

I'm not going to put any weight into it though, I'm just gunna look through isos now that we have a read on both groups.
oh, i do see how this thought comes about.
i'm not sure where to start here.
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Post Post #3738 (isolation #223) » Wed May 19, 2021 7:15 am

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even if Titus is scum i'm really not interesting in rushing her today.
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Post Post #3754 (isolation #224) » Wed May 19, 2021 7:23 am

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and last night couldn't have been an odd-night town vig, it was night 2.
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Post Post #3759 (isolation #225) » Wed May 19, 2021 7:25 am

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if scum already is aware then it would be nice to know.
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Post Post #3765 (isolation #226) » Wed May 19, 2021 7:27 am

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bit why does scum Cakes decide to announce said hesitation? just to look town?
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Post Post #3769 (isolation #227) » Wed May 19, 2021 7:29 am

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pretty sure Cakes is aware of common scumtells.

pedit: lmao
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Post Post #3774 (isolation #228) » Wed May 19, 2021 7:32 am

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i think flow trap could be town.
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Post Post #3777 (isolation #229) » Wed May 19, 2021 7:35 am

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In post 3342, Dwlee99 wrote:I think I may have taken flow's friendly neighbor claim too seriously yesterday, which is why I said the slot will sort itself. MC's case is convincing and mixed with the fact I already didn't like Flow's posting I'm fine sheeping here.

VOTE: Flow Trap
also i feel the friendly neighbour thing and Dwlee's other interactions with flow make dog scum specifically less likely.

Dwlee's interaction with Fire is pretty usual, no partner tells, just some regular interactions in an ISO that's not very big, which could be an indicator of how Dwlee was interacting with other partners. i'm going to give a looksee at other interactions in any case.
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Post Post #3778 (isolation #230) » Wed May 19, 2021 7:36 am

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In post 3776, flow trap wrote::neutral: Confused
i disagree with your opinion on Cakes but your reaction to that disagreement was pretty towny, just a feeling from that. a little stronger now with also thinking you're probably not dogscum.
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Post Post #3805 (isolation #231) » Wed May 19, 2021 7:48 am

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In post 3783, Titus wrote:I checked Toadette. Not an alien.

Alien hit the dog. Can we stop gaslighting me now?
thinking you're scum isn't gaslighting you, Titus. this is a game about lying. can you please stop calling it that? if you're town and we're not believing you, we can't be gaslighting you because we don't actually know you're town. it's a serious thing to accuse someone of doing and i wish you'd use a different term.
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Post Post #3809 (isolation #232) » Wed May 19, 2021 7:49 am

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In post 3804, flow trap wrote:Alien

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dogs flipped dog mafia. if they were aliens they'd flip alien.
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Post Post #3811 (isolation #233) » Wed May 19, 2021 7:50 am

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In post 3807, Titus wrote:I'm going back to recovering from my second shot.
feel better. i know that one hits hard.
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Post Post #3823 (isolation #234) » Wed May 19, 2021 7:54 am

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In post 3818, flow trap wrote:Can we discuss Anda defending Titus? :neutral:
i don't see the point anymore. Anda is dead and was town.
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Post Post #3834 (isolation #235) » Wed May 19, 2021 7:58 am

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In post 3791, UC Voyager wrote:I think that this is a very interesting take and way of going about analyzing players. Something I'll consider when catching up fully on the rest of the thread. I honestly find the way flow traps been analyzing players as pretty town. Even if he's wrong about cakez, he had a point about the hesitation being off. I'm taking you as town for your approach to analyzing players as town and going out of your way to do so. Though could be done be scum just seems inherently town.
Dwlee is an easier player to do this with than Fire thanks to length of ISO, i don't have the energy to do this with every scumflip but given there's something to work with now and a confirmed partner to compare the interactions with it might be worth it. but i'm happy you think it's interesting. :>

i also have been townreading flow, though if it is mafia it's definitely a cat, but right now that's not where my thinking is.
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Post Post #3839 (isolation #236) » Wed May 19, 2021 8:01 am

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In post 3835, Farkran wrote:I'm a bit lost because my reads were shitlevel but i kinda want to kill braveheart today :\ i'm also not a huge fan of the recently trigger happy anya and toadette tbh. Ivyeo or flowtrap, who knows, i will need to reassess a lot
want to help me find a Dwlee + Fire partner?
i've barely started and i already feel like my energy is flagging. it feels like we should be down to less players already but there are still 18.
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Post Post #3850 (isolation #237) » Wed May 19, 2021 8:13 am

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i'll be back later, and thank you Fark.
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Post Post #3933 (isolation #238) » Wed May 19, 2021 10:56 am

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In post 3929, Toadette wrote:I can't remember precisely what my standing compared to norwee wagon was but I remember finding some stuff scummy but someone I put some amount of stock in going "norwee is always town here" and that turning the bike pedals backwards some
was this someone Fark?
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Post Post #3939 (isolation #239) » Wed May 19, 2021 10:59 am

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In post 3920, Farkran wrote:The missing N2 dog kill though really points to kdowns being a real dog cop that was protected, let's not paranoia over that

VOTE: toadette

Chara what's your input on pops?
i have some reasons to believe she is town that are less than i have to be worried about her being scum, are you voting her on a partner tell thing?
i think town Isis also wants to vote Titus here because i still do, so i wouldn't scumread her for that.

the murdercat vote from her is kind of ? though? like i see why she did it but it seems very reactionary and i don't remember seeing a murdercat SR from her.
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Post Post #3949 (isolation #240) » Wed May 19, 2021 11:05 am

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would also be indicated in the role pm.

i mean... right?
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Post Post #3958 (isolation #241) » Wed May 19, 2021 11:12 am

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In post 3894, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 3892, Toadette wrote:Why can't Titus just be a cat..
norwee voted her
Norwee didn't vote Titus? not as far as i can see in his ISO.
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Post Post #3959 (isolation #242) » Wed May 19, 2021 11:14 am

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In post 3950, flow trap wrote:It was redacted?
i feel like if we start assuming partial reveal then there will only be madness the farther we search.
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Post Post #3960 (isolation #243) » Wed May 19, 2021 11:16 am

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Raya: what don't you like about Isis? it seems you agree about the Alien thing.
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Post Post #3963 (isolation #244) » Wed May 19, 2021 11:22 am

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In post 3056, Thestatusquo wrote:
VoteCount 1.49

Murdercat [ 12 ]
farkran, pooky, firebringer, sircakez, brave heart lion, kdowns, ivyeo, norwegianboyEE, kazyan, flow trap, unwnd, andante
NorwegianboyEE [ 4 ]
shiro, raya36, nero cain, anya
Titus [ 3 ]
toadette, flea the magician, MURDERCAT
firebringer [ 2 ]
titus, save the dragons
anya [ 1 ]
dwlee99
raya36 [ 1 ]
chara

Not Voting [ 1 ]

xofelf

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In post 3112, Thestatusquo wrote:
VoteCount 1.50

Murdercat [ 10 ]
farkran, pooky, sircakez, brave heart lion, kdowns, norwegianboyEE, kazyan, flow trap, unwnd, andante
NorwegianboyEE [ 8 ]
shiro, raya36, nero cain, save the dragons, anya, firebringer, ivyeo, MURDERCAT
Titus [ 2 ]
toadette, flea the magician
firebringer [ 1 ]
titus
anya [ 1 ]
dwlee99
raya36 [ 1 ]
chara

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xofelf

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i think catscum ivyeo is more unlikely given this timing.

and while murdercat and norwee are definitely not aligned, i'm not seeing anything around that time from Norwee or from Titus that would indicate they are not aligned. in fact Norwee explicitly didn't want to eliminate Titus and was asking for other wagons. which, yes, is maybe too obvious for them to actually be partners given Norwee's position at the time.
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Post Post #3965 (isolation #245) » Wed May 19, 2021 11:32 am

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In post 3962, Raya36 wrote:
In post 3960, Chara wrote:Raya: what don't you like about Isis? it seems you agree about the Alien thing.
I'll explain later. It's not about who is being pushed which I think I agree on, it's what's being pushed
sure.

i'm not sure how much stock i'm willing to put in the idea given the flips we've had, but my thinking on toadette is i can see why she is getting some suspicion and it's for things i feel she would not have done as scum, such as the behavior of sniffing around everywhere and pressing at everything to see what sticks. responding to my questioning of the murdercat vote with "i don't think cat's scum really i'm just annoyed" seems more of a town Isis thing to do.

also she made a good point earlier about how i had reason to be more afraid of her given what happened last time. not sure what she thought of my answer though.
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Post Post #3966 (isolation #246) » Wed May 19, 2021 11:35 am

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In post 3964, Toadette wrote:The most likely scenario where Titus is town is not a redirector, but an alien faction with one kill per game that holstered night one for reasons we don't know. I can't rule that out but I don't think that possibility is good enough for Titus to live on
i kind of want her to live today though. unless you think Norwee refused to vote his scumpartner for wifom? or is this a dumb question to ask.
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Post Post #3970 (isolation #247) » Wed May 19, 2021 11:38 am

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In post 3967, Toadette wrote:I think Pooky's reaction to the flips was weird

Pedit: Chara to be honest idk how you know I'm town this game or how anyone could. I think some of the reasons for suspecting me are bad though
i don't know you're town, i said why i think you are, do you think the assessment of why is wrong?

it's hard to conceive of scum Isis playing this lackadaisically.
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Post Post #3972 (isolation #248) » Wed May 19, 2021 11:39 am

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In post 3967, Toadette wrote:I think Pooky's reaction to the flips was weird

Pedit: Chara to be honest idk how you know I'm town this game or how anyone could. I think some of the reasons for suspecting me are bad though
Pooky saying that Norwee voted Titus as a reason for Titus not being a cat is weird when the opposite happened.
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Post Post #3973 (isolation #249) » Wed May 19, 2021 11:40 am

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i just responded to both halves of the same quote in different posts........
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Post Post #3975 (isolation #250) » Wed May 19, 2021 11:43 am

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i've always wanted to roll traitor.

it's my second favourite role after miller.
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Post Post #3983 (isolation #251) » Wed May 19, 2021 11:50 am

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In post 3976, Toadette wrote:Guttake it is +scum that you acknowledged you should be more afraid of town me because it suggests all the data was there and what was missing was the motivation

Hard not to want you to be town when you're towncasing me now tho etc
all of the data being me thinking you sounded scummy + you thrashing me as scum before?

the missing connection is your play didn't evoke that scumgame to me in any way and it really still isn't. though this doesn't make you not scum because people play differently game by game.
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Post Post #3986 (isolation #252) » Wed May 19, 2021 11:51 am

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In post 3980, MURDERCAT wrote:
In post 3959, Chara wrote:
In post 3950, flow trap wrote:It was redacted?
i feel like if we start assuming partial reveal then there will only be madness the farther we search.
We haven't gotten any role info though from scum flips unless I am not remembering something. So if you view traitor as a role it is reasonable.
true, but we did get Nero's role info.

is it unlikely that all the flipped scum are actually goons? idk.
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Post Post #3987 (isolation #253) » Wed May 19, 2021 11:53 am

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In post 3977, Toadette wrote:Sometimes I think Chara makes posts that have no purpose but to trigger me
what, you don't like millers? :>
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Post Post #3988 (isolation #254) » Wed May 19, 2021 11:54 am

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VOTE: pooky
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Post Post #4052 (isolation #255) » Thu May 20, 2021 5:21 am

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good morning, and hello SS!
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Post Post #4054 (isolation #256) » Thu May 20, 2021 5:43 am

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don't it always seem to go that you don't know what you got til it's gone.
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Post Post #4056 (isolation #257) » Thu May 20, 2021 5:45 am

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this is hyperactive poster unwnd erasure.
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Post Post #4058 (isolation #258) » Thu May 20, 2021 5:50 am

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In post 3614, MURDERCAT wrote:Informed dog miller? lol I think Titus is just trying to act townie
In post 3617, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 3614, MURDERCAT wrote:Informed dog miller? lol I think Titus is just trying to act townie
If Andante claims Scooby Doo, Miller Cop I'm going to lose my shit.
conversation was about here.
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Post Post #4060 (isolation #259) » Thu May 20, 2021 5:55 am

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In post 4050, xofelf wrote:Pooky gives me such weird vibes that I can't tell if he's just the sort to play with blinders on CONSTANTLY or it's some kind of tell
he gives weird vibes constantly and it's nai.

but the direction of them this game might be something. we will see when he's online.

pedit: i'm not sure, i just grabbed those so you could see who it was. murdercat seemed to be bringing it up as a joke while not believing in it, which is a weird angle if you know the miller flip could actually happen. pooky is a maybe.
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Post Post #4061 (isolation #260) » Thu May 20, 2021 6:00 am

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Farkran's ISO is very informative imo, @SS. or i'm biased because there's important info there bolded that i completely missed until i went to look at why he scumreads Brave.
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Post Post #4063 (isolation #261) » Thu May 20, 2021 6:03 am

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honestly it feels like there is a lot of useful stuff buried in this game and that it's there if you combine it all carefully, and somehow that is worse than thinking it
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i feel like my murdercat TR needs better reasoning, but there was some reason cat's definitely not one of the scumteams, can someone refresh my memory?

also, UC replaced Kaz, and SS replaced ivy.

pedit: it is?
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Post Post #4067 (isolation #262) » Thu May 20, 2021 6:12 am

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i don't think it's impossible that two cats were wagoned simultaneously, but Norwee was voting murdercat and he did not vote you, so there is some kind of difference.

doggo murdercat? i've had a tr on murdercat since sometime day 1 but it's not good enough to bet the game on.
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Post Post #4069 (isolation #263) » Thu May 20, 2021 6:19 am

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yeah, i am realizing this.
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Post Post #4080 (isolation #264) » Thu May 20, 2021 7:39 am

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i'd be happy to leave Titus another day.
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Post Post #4092 (isolation #265) » Thu May 20, 2021 7:58 am

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the elo argument exists, but also we are at 18 alive with two kills per night (and a possible third) and three scum dead so it doesn't feel like elo is on our heels.
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Post Post #4117 (isolation #266) » Thu May 20, 2021 10:10 am

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In post 4072, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 4059, Titus wrote:Do you agree that Murdercat and or Pooky might be dogs?
ROFL DWLEE WAS TRYING TO GNAW MY LEG OFF ALL DAY ARE YOU SERIOUS
this does look somewhat genuine + tracks with what i saw when looking at Dwlee interactions.

but if he's catscum then it would be genuine.
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Post Post #4119 (isolation #267) » Thu May 20, 2021 10:11 am

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also @Pooky, why can't Titus be catscum again? you said it was because Norwee voted her but that didn't happen afaik.

pedit: did you explain why he's dogscum?
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Post Post #4121 (isolation #268) » Thu May 20, 2021 10:13 am

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also i don't see why it's better to eliminate cats. Fire was scum but he was correct about eliminating one team first.

that's besides that i don't think Dwlee and Pooky are aligned.

pedit: hmmm, i can look at it but that's not very 100%. who's catscum then?
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Post Post #4129 (isolation #269) » Thu May 20, 2021 10:22 am

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that reminds me, i need to kill flow trap so i can have post count supremacy.
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Post Post #4135 (isolation #270) » Thu May 20, 2021 10:25 am

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dog flip > cat flip > ? flip > town flip

but yeah. the point is they're all good.
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Post Post #4147 (isolation #271) » Thu May 20, 2021 10:31 am

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an alien cop with no aliens is about as lolmod as a miller in a game with no cops, to me. which i have seen before.
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Post Post #4151 (isolation #272) » Thu May 20, 2021 10:31 am

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In post 4146, Shiro wrote:
In post 4129, Chara wrote:that reminds me, i need to kill flow trap so i can have post count supremacy.
Flow is a good rodent ally, we should keep him alive
unfortunately for my trophy, i do agree flow is likely town.
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Post Post #4153 (isolation #273) » Thu May 20, 2021 10:33 am

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In post 4145, Shiro wrote:Can I say that I think it is more likely that Titus is actually an Alien herself and that is why she came up with the Alien cop claim than her being cat or dog
i find this a bad plan from Alien Titus's perspective. unless she was also informed no alien cops exist, it is a risky claim that brings attention to her faction that might otherwise not be there.
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Post Post #4156 (isolation #274) » Thu May 20, 2021 10:38 am

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i'm not sure how to answer this. i think it... does? you're looking vs. you're not looking.

pedit: i suppose the claim could not be ideal just because of how it was forced out, but idk.
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Post Post #4159 (isolation #275) » Thu May 20, 2021 10:49 am

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i like to call it getting to know someone.

also context.
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Post Post #4164 (isolation #276) » Thu May 20, 2021 10:57 am

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now you and your postcount are just mocking me.
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Post Post #4168 (isolation #277) » Thu May 20, 2021 11:03 am

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can't wait for flow trap to flip scum so i can be let down once again. though it wouldn't hurt as much as Cakes.

Fark, i feel so much Energy but i'm not sure where to direct it and pooky isn't online yet.
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Post Post #4171 (isolation #278) » Thu May 20, 2021 11:13 am

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i am wondering if scum Titus decides to take this tactic though, like i don't want to go there but when i brought up the gaslighting thing her response rang of righteous town Titus more than scum Titus being manipulative, but it's possible Titus's threshold for acceptable tactics /objectional behavior as scum is simply different from mine, i don't know enough to say.

but it is making me vibe more with a town Titus. i'm just interested in other things right now and in seeing if she can do more in this game since it hasn't been much.
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Post Post #4172 (isolation #279) » Thu May 20, 2021 11:14 am

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In post 4170, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 4169, SirCakez wrote:you can make a game predictable and not that fucking insanity
It doesn't feel that insane to me to have a decoy cop. Like having a miller without a cop, as Chara said, or a backup without the original role.
yeah, it's a fakeout but not of the most bastard kind. i don't remember the game or the roles involved anymore but i've been gotchaed by setups enough times to find this plausible.
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Post Post #4178 (isolation #280) » Thu May 20, 2021 12:13 pm

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Pooky isn't new, he has more than two games. whoever said that was referencing the two games they'd personally played with him.
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Post Post #4183 (isolation #281) » Thu May 20, 2021 12:34 pm

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no no, people born after 2000 don't exist. you can't be 17. i need to lie down.
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Post Post #4387 (isolation #282) » Fri May 21, 2021 7:52 am

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In post 4382, SirCakez wrote:actually I changed my mind I think Pooky is town
his reaction here feels like when I went after him in Warehouse as scum

VOTE: flow trap
everybody scumreads this slot let's yeet it
i do not scumread that slot!

i started catching up this morning and i just do not have the energy for this one right now.
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Post Post #4389 (isolation #283) » Fri May 21, 2021 7:52 am

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it's 3pm and i'm like "this morning". lmao
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Post Post #4392 (isolation #284) » Fri May 21, 2021 7:54 am

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In post 4386, Save The Dragons wrote:
In post 4381, Brave Heart Lion wrote:HOW DOES HE KNOW THAT

I ASKED HIM 4 TIMES AND HE'S AVOIDED IT
it is weird that he avoided the question i wouldn't mind an explanation
it seems really obvious to me why Fark hasn't answered this question.
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Post Post #4397 (isolation #285) » Fri May 21, 2021 7:55 am

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In post 4390, SirCakez wrote:some of my reads are getting stale
need to reassess
i really thought Ivyeo is scum but now SS is in that slot and I always feel weird SRing SS because I've misread him so many times before
ugh
SS replacing in made me SR the slot more for the completely unfair reason of i was scum with SS recently and he just vibes completely the same no matter his alignment, apparently.
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Post Post #4401 (isolation #286) » Fri May 21, 2021 7:58 am

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In post 4395, SirCakez wrote:
In post 4387, Chara wrote:i do not scumread that slot!
por favor mas?
i forget what specifically happened now, but there was a point where i was questioning flow's reasoning on a read and it gave me this attitude about it that made a lot more sense coming from town with nothing to hide than scum who was made because it was genuinely hunting.

i was really sure about it at the time, but in a more general sense i just think flow trap's been towntelling today.
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Post Post #4404 (isolation #287) » Fri May 21, 2021 8:09 am

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In post 4333, Flea The Magician wrote:Chara when you're here gimme your low-down on Pooks <3 I ain't diggin for it.

honestly I ain't feel scumpooks here at all.
i don't have any particular insight on Pooky as a player, why do you ask me specifically?

UNVOTE:
but from what i do know, his energy here is very reminiscent of town pooky i've seen before when he's pushed, i did end up giving the back and forth a better read and i see where he came up with the Farkran traitor thing. i do think his interactions with Norwee are not great but this isn't new and i'm coming around to the idea i'm not great at analyzing specific interactions.

but liking pooky more doesn't mean i agree with Fark scum at all, i'm not sure why that is a wagon.
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Post Post #4406 (isolation #288) » Fri May 21, 2021 8:11 am

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In post 4402, SirCakez wrote:To me it seems like all flow cares about it is not dying
hmm, examples? i know mine wasn't even a specific one, but i'm not seeing it.
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Post Post #4409 (isolation #289) » Fri May 21, 2021 8:24 am

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VOTE: toadette

i keep thinking about how she reacted to my kind of towncasing her. like, i get being worried that scum is whiteknighting you, but she doesn't actually seem all that worried about that besides as a thing to waffle about. it's just been weird.
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Post Post #4410 (isolation #290) » Fri May 21, 2021 8:31 am

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In post 4407, Farkran wrote:I have the same feelings about his energy and behavior, he did the same thing on me when i was scum in the normal game we played together, but that time his reasoning made sense, here it really does not imo. The snake thing is an immense asspull to fuel a traitor theory, and after reading the role wiki i'm 99% sure a traitor wouldn't know their teammates' target. Also based on your posts i think you know exactly what i am.

Moreover, i feel like at the start of our 1v1 he used the same nichilistic nuance that he used in the game where he was scum with skitter, and the subsequent discussion was all but a fake.

Unless you know scum!pooky meta and this is very far from his scumrange?
i wouldn't say "exactly"... but i did mention i noticed what you'd bolded earlier and drew my conclusions from that.

i don't have any scum pooky meta that i remember, no, so i can't see it's outside of his scumrange.

your opening post about hating dogs and being a cat person, and also being a snake but being unsure about that, i kind of see where he got it? i also associate snakes with traitors, they're an animal generally used as a synonym for a liar and betrayer, there's the whole creation myth about Eve being tricked by a snake, and with the dog and cat thing and apparently scumreading you it's not really an asspull to me.

but regarding his other arguments, i think blatantly defending Norwee is a lot different than scumreading him but not voting him, and that does feel kind of bad faith as an argument to use, especially trying to claim that voting a player is basically the same as scumreading them.

actually i still don't really like pooky, i might have just been reading his energy as being better.
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Post Post #4412 (isolation #291) » Fri May 21, 2021 8:34 am

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In post 4409, Chara wrote:VOTE: toadette

i keep thinking about how she reacted to my kind of towncasing her. like, i get being worried that scum is whiteknighting you, but she doesn't actually seem all that worried about that besides as a thing to waffle about. it's just been weird.
someone can talk to me about this too, i still think scum Isis's game is more.. developed, than this? but i also don't see why town Isis is playing in this way that feels like she doesn't care very much about where the elim goes. but mostly the way she's reacted to my reads on her this game has been weird.

pedit: SS is Something_Smart
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Post Post #4417 (isolation #292) » Fri May 21, 2021 8:40 am

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i don't think you should claim, but also it's probably really obvious to anyone who is looking for rolesofts anyways, so i don't know if there would be a point.

also: snakes are associated with a lot, you're right! i love snakes. they can symbolize eternal life, ressurrection, renewal, healing, fertility, and so many other positive things in addition to the somewhat western ideas of treachery and villainy and death.
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Post Post #4423 (isolation #293) » Fri May 21, 2021 8:44 am

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In post 4415, Farkran wrote:I will be honest wrt pops - i played town against scum!her twice and scum against town!her once. I cannot associate her to any of my past experience, so i tried to read her in a meta vacuum and i'm leaning scum, but my confidence is really low.
yeah, i am trying not to meta her, but it's like she was suspecting me for not being that suspicious of her as though she's been doing things that one should be suspicious of, and i agree that her plays been strangely undirected but i thought this was more of a trait of town!her.
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"The CORE is full of lasers, and Chemist1422's entire existence depends on her eye. If she looks into a laser, she will almost certainly die. Did you think about that?"
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Post Post #4427 (isolation #294) » Fri May 21, 2021 8:47 am

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oh i'm sorry i really wasn't trying to make you claim, i just really like snake symbolism because i'm writing something with a lot of snake mythology in it so i was just listing all of the things.
"Sibling," Farkran asked, starting slowly.
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Post Post #4428 (isolation #295) » Fri May 21, 2021 8:48 am

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and i didn't realize you were literally a doctor i assumed some kind of investigation. i mean you were probably going to claim anyway but like i could have handled that better. :<
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Post Post #4445 (isolation #296) » Fri May 21, 2021 9:40 am

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In post 4442, Farkran wrote:I am rikki tikki tavi
rikki is the mongoose, not a snake.
"Sibling," Farkran asked, starting slowly.
"The CORE is full of lasers, and Chemist1422's entire existence depends on her eye. If she looks into a laser, she will almost certainly die. Did you think about that?"
"Oh yes, my brother. I love thinking about that."
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Post Post #4483 (isolation #297) » Fri May 21, 2021 11:17 am

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In post 4472, Farkran wrote:Also a snake doctor makes sense, a mongoose doctor not so much, it simply never occurred to me that rikki could be the other animal
rikki kills the snakes to protect his house, and saves the life of his owner's child. it's not that much of a stretch.
"Sibling," Farkran asked, starting slowly.
"The CORE is full of lasers, and Chemist1422's entire existence depends on her eye. If she looks into a laser, she will almost certainly die. Did you think about that?"
"Oh yes, my brother. I love thinking about that."
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Post Post #4484 (isolation #298) » Fri May 21, 2021 11:18 am

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kdowns being protected makes sense, i believe Fark on this anyway.
"Sibling," Farkran asked, starting slowly.
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Post Post #4542 (isolation #299) » Fri May 21, 2021 4:06 pm

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In post 4525, Toadette wrote:
In post 4409, Chara wrote:VOTE: toadette

i keep thinking about how she reacted to my kind of towncasing her. like, i get being worried that scum is whiteknighting you, but she doesn't actually seem all that worried about that besides as a thing to waffle about. it's just been weird.
Uh oh, if Chara can't figure out I'm town even though I have dollar tree WIM and few reads nobody is gonna be able to
you are my favourite girl so i am giving you the benefit of the doubt, why am i town for you now and what changed? and while i do find your posting to be wonderful and i do not want you to change for the world, that unfortunately has nothing to do with the bounds of this game that we play here on mafiascum.net, and if town Isis is indeed here i would like to talk to her about reads and hopes and dreams and maybe Pookies too.

i still don't know what WIM means, from context clues i have gathered it's something like the will to tryhard.
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"The CORE is full of lasers, and Chemist1422's entire existence depends on her eye. If she looks into a laser, she will almost certainly die. Did you think about that?"
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Post Post #4543 (isolation #300) » Fri May 21, 2021 4:07 pm

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In post 4531, Brave Heart Lion wrote:
In post 4519, Toadette wrote:I suggest we ask one member of cat mafia to claim, then let farkran use his ability on the cat. If the cat survives we can trust the claim and leave farkran alive


Going back over to this plan I recognize some possible problems with it
I'm sorry Isis, but I'm dying laughing
i agree this post is very good, Brave you get townpoints for having The Will. the will to win and also the will to laugh, and many more, find out what they are next time on reading rainbow.
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Post Post #4545 (isolation #301) » Fri May 21, 2021 4:16 pm

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In post 4510, Flea The Magician wrote:Farkran be selling the Snake Oil wholesale.

I'm happy there or titus for today.
i don't really understand why you suspect Farkran, besides the mongoose/snake confusion.

plus Fark should be getting solved by night stuff anyways. i know you're on Titus rn but yeah.
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"The CORE is full of lasers, and Chemist1422's entire existence depends on her eye. If she looks into a laser, she will almost certainly die. Did you think about that?"
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Post Post #4598 (isolation #302) » Sat May 22, 2021 5:34 am

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weekend v/la, i am back late on sunday.
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Post Post #5589 (isolation #303) » Fri Jul 02, 2021 10:57 am

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thanks shea!

i loved your ruleset.
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Post Post #5595 (isolation #304) » Fri Jul 02, 2021 11:06 am

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i can't believe the rats thought i was their traitor because i decided to claim rat. that's beautiful. it's exactly what we did with Fark.

i also love how the one time i'm actually nightkilled by scum it's when i'm also scum... big f.
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Post Post #5612 (isolation #305) » Fri Jul 02, 2021 12:13 pm

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pooky wasn't the hero we needed, but the hero we deserved.
"Sibling," Farkran asked, starting slowly.
"The CORE is full of lasers, and Chemist1422's entire existence depends on her eye. If she looks into a laser, she will almost certainly die. Did you think about that?"
"Oh yes, my brother. I love thinking about that."
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Post Post #5619 (isolation #306) » Fri Jul 02, 2021 12:32 pm

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Fark was our fourth scumbuddy in spirit.
"Sibling," Farkran asked, starting slowly.
"The CORE is full of lasers, and Chemist1422's entire existence depends on her eye. If she looks into a laser, she will almost certainly die. Did you think about that?"
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Post Post #5660 (isolation #307) » Tue Jul 06, 2021 9:14 am

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honestly, i've been kicking myself for letting go of that Raya scumread early on. this game could have been very different. :P
"Sibling," Farkran asked, starting slowly.
"The CORE is full of lasers, and Chemist1422's entire existence depends on her eye. If she looks into a laser, she will almost certainly die. Did you think about that?"
"Oh yes, my brother. I love thinking about that."

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