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the math on this seems wrongIn post 4770, Taly wrote:Still unsure of my order.
I know I wantydra/peta/gammagooeyto cross later than sooner but if we go withToog'splan, then I end up with less than 4 being uncrowded.
Mmm.
(me, toog, dwlee, cakez) + (ydra, peta, ggy) + you = 8 people crossing, leaving (ulya, skitts, HQ, gypyx)
is there anyone in that last group you TR? If not I'm gonna mark those down as the ones you don't want to cross so I can have an entry from you in my spreadsheet I'm using to math out the consensus of who gets left out<Embrace The Void>
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@gammagooeyare you still thinking this?<Embrace The Void>
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if you answer my question I'll vote for youIn post 4875, Taly wrote: why nobody want me to cross and potentially fall to an anticlimactic death<Embrace The Void>
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are you good marking down (toog, peta, skitter, gypyx) as your 4 to kill?In post 4714, Ydrasse wrote:(you/skitter) 1 here
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maybe ulyana maaaaybe dwlee
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how would you rank those two poolsIn post 4691, ulyana wrote:if i exclude you from thoughts,
harley quinn sircakez toogeloo would be always leave behind, taly gamma emerald ydrasse decide between, and crossing the rest is how i’d try to get 4 in a row town right now
also, not enthused by the fact I'm pretty sure that second pool is all town<Embrace The Void>
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VOTE: taly
@Talywho would you like killed off rn, then?
What I'm gonna try to do is get this spreadsheet worked on while also voting players across, there should be enough data I can collect tonight to at least have some players I can vote across without worrying about the people who haven't spoken up rocking the boat too much<Embrace The Void>
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unwnd's entrance to the blue room was really goodIn post 4883, Ydrasse wrote:can someone explain why gammagooey is town to me? i'm looking back and
i'm a little like !! because goo made a post in the pt like
'i wouldn't be surprised if they nom via plurality'
i dont think this is an especially important or distinguishing post but it bugs me if that makes sense
i wanna know why the slots towny enough to stick around .-.<Embrace The Void>
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this is fineIn post 4890, Taly wrote:I don't think I can give a reliable answer on who I want uncrossed until we do like... 3 crosses at least, and I'm honestly sus on people who think I should give one.
I should still have enough data without that input to at least be able to send across those 3 or so people to get you to that point<Embrace The Void>
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yeah I thought you TRed dwlee because you did the twirls thing but ig not? since later on I recall you not listing them among folks you TRedIn post 4895, Ydrasse wrote:*inhale*
VOTE: taly
i have to learn to send it because i am not confident about scum at all this game
just had a 0/2 reads game btw lads so trust in me to carry<Embrace The Void>
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uhhh Taly, did you forget this?In post 4369, Morning Tweet wrote:In post 4366, Taly wrote:WAIT
TWEETIE!!!!
IF SOMEONE CROSSES, ARE THEY UNABLE TO SPEAK UNTIL EVERYBIDY ELSE CROSSES?
I ASK BECAUSE I FORGOT EVENT 4 HAD A SECRET BALLOT AND TILTED.Crossed and crossing players continue to discuss and vote for the remainder of the event. They simply cannot be voted for.<Embrace The Void>
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because the topic of conversation moved on (also I didn't see it)In post 4898, Harley Quinn wrote:
Gamma, why didn’t you answer this?In post 4845, Harley Quinn wrote:
I thought we were supposed to vote our most confident trs first. So, should I unvote them then?In post 4821, Gamma Emerald wrote:also the plan is still not entirely formed wrt whether we want more or less trusted folks to cross first
as clearly evidenced by you wanting ydrasse (your townread) voted across when me and dwlee are having talks that involve more suspected slots crossing first<Embrace The Void>
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this is funnyIn post 4910, petapan wrote:personally if i was going to throw myself into a situation ingame where i was facing potential death i would want to have reads hammered out, wifom about eating the kill be damned<Embrace The Void>
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I have the data compiled as best I can rn and I feel even worse about this secondary pool because those are all slots with very little people wanting them dead otherwise (literally no one else has me in their kill pool that has one documented!)In post 4885, Gamma Emerald wrote:
how would you rank those two poolsIn post 4691, ulyana wrote:if i exclude you from thoughts,
harley quinn sircakez toogeloo would be always leave behind, taly gamma emerald ydrasse decide between, and crossing the rest is how i’d try to get 4 in a row town right now
also, not enthused by the fact I'm pretty sure that second pool is all town<Embrace The Void>
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did you answer this yetIn post 4881, Gamma Emerald wrote:
are you good marking down (toog, peta, skitter, gypyx) as your 4 to kill?In post 4714, Ydrasse wrote:(you/skitter) 1 here
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i trust cakez gamma harley taly
maybe ulyana maaaaybe dwlee
i want to believe goolord is townYdrasse?<Embrace The Void>
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No your post was absolutely validIn post 4955, Taly wrote:sorry that was overly aggressive
my oh my, it's past my bedtime
and now i bid you all goodnight<Embrace The Void>
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When I started asserting my confidence in town!infinity Gypyx leapt to the idea I had an inno on infinity as a result of being spared as town. I did not, but I believe him thinking that might have been a slip of the tongue in a sense, as scum would knowIn post 4968, petapan wrote:
i think i know what you're talking about from gypyx but can you go into it?In post 4707, Gamma Emerald wrote:I remembered something gypyx posted in the blue room that pings quite a bit now that infinity has flipped town.somereward had occurred. My belief for what the reward is, which I might have covered prior, is that the spinning of the barrel in the duel being true random was it.<Embrace The Void>
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I specifically wanted to know your order of preference for which of me/taly/ydrasse should be left behindIn post 4985, ulyana wrote:
you asked me about how i would compare the players on the lists to eachother? or about the order? and i am going through the players right now?In post 4984, Gamma Emerald wrote:Hi I asked you a thing<Embrace The Void>
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this post gets more confusing as it goes onIn post 5000, ulyana wrote:
so i was doing so the best way i know how and seeing where it went,In post 4997, ulyana wrote:
i mean, i was planning at working more towards a conclusion but it's not exactly easy to weigh disparate things against one anotherIn post 4992, Gamma Emerald wrote:which it kinda looks like you're working towards expressing, but I want to know if you're actually going to get to a conclusion on that rn
like the reasoning for say ydrasse and you isn't exactly similar and also that list was made at dwlee's request excluding dwlee from it due to dwlee knowing dwlee's alignment and there are still a lot of ?s there for me as well
understandable to the one before it in the quote chain<Embrace The Void>
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explain?In post 5006, ulyana wrote:dwlee had entire view of game based on infinity's alignment that didn't make a lot of sense to me in the first place as i said in the pink pt and now their restructuring of views seems potentially advantageous
This might be a case of a serious mindmeld<Embrace The Void>
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which actually allows me to circle back to something I never explained earlier, which was my reasons for suspecting ulyana + who I thought was playing like cephrir in radio buzz that wasn't Cakez, those thoughts were connected the whole timeIn post 5008, Gamma Emerald wrote:
explain?In post 5006, ulyana wrote:dwlee had entire view of game based on infinity's alignment that didn't make a lot of sense to me in the first place as i said in the pink pt and now their restructuring of views seems potentially advantageous
This might be a case of a serious mindmeld<Embrace The Void>
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I was more interested in what seemed advantageous about dwlee restructuring their readsIn post 5012, ulyana wrote:
it was like, well how i said it in the pt was like it felt like dwlee was playing like a different player than the dwlee i am familiar with with having a super strong scumread and basing entire view game off of that like to dwlee in the pt ydrasse and skitter were also both likely mafia because infinity was likely mafia and it especially felt like the connection to ydrasse didn't even make sense with view of scum!infinity because would scum be more likely to be tmi-ing a super strong read based on an emotional reaction rather than defending their partnerIn post 5008, Gamma Emerald wrote:
explain?In post 5006, ulyana wrote:dwlee had entire view of game based on infinity's alignment that didn't make a lot of sense to me in the first place as i said in the pink pt and now their restructuring of views seems potentially advantageous
This might be a case of a serious mindmeld<Embrace The Void>
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I actually had yours compiled already but thank you for thisIn post 5019, SirCakez wrote:@Gamma atm I want to leave Toog, Uly, Harley, Gypyx<Embrace The Void>
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I’m sorry if I worried you Taly? I’m kinda in a bit of a bad state maybe in terms of thinking about the grand scheme of things in this game. This event started while I was at bowling and I didn’t feel right making a big scene but it kinda fucked with my head trying to piece together a plan in the short bits I was able to post between when I was up.<Embrace The Void>
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STOP. Stop this!In post 5038, Gammagooey wrote:Saber
I’m pretty sure it’sthis shitthat’s getting Harley so spun up! Call Harley by her name, it’s honestly disrespectful to do this when Harley has already outposted Saber by MILES, look at the activity overview!<Embrace The Void>
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For first crossing? I think I’m probably the smartest pick in terms of not sending across someone we might end up wanting to leave behind. There’s a few people with 2 votes towards leaving them behind but I’m I don’t have the spreadsheet on me rn
Speaking of which I’m probably gonna stop posting for a couple hours because I’m doing a Halloween party as my first IRL social event in over a year!<Embrace The Void>
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OKAY STOP.In post 5091, Toogeloo wrote:I forgot about gammagooey. Put him in the first four with HQ, Cakez, and myself. The scumspect lineup.
I think I’ve heard enough from you at least for now. Stop posting for like an hour.<Embrace The Void>
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NO WE DIDN’TIn post 5088, Toogeloo wrote:Well, I think you and dwlee both agreed to be in the bottom four together, lol. The 4 who stay behind should have the most weight on who goes forward, if you think that might make it fair, but in all reality, the 4 most town read players will occupy those spots, and there will either be a game over win, or a dead player who's reads might better influence the last 4 as well.
Our conversation progressed past that to a split pool idea, and even then I’ve since moved on to trying to do it mathematically.
Do you not realize if someone crosses that should otherwise get left behind, someone else has to stay behind in their place? Or do you just not care?<Embrace The Void>
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I’m almost back home so I’m going to go into my spreadsheet and use the existing data to formulate a proper crossing order because atp the remaining input I either don’t expect to get in a timely manner or don’t care for.<Embrace The Void>
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@toog In this game, yes that’s accurate (though that post looks loaded to suggest I’m scum)
I think you trying to help is good, but your plans do seem very scum-adjacent. I think Taly has a very good idea in having players who are at each other’s throats but have a good number of people TRing them should cross early so either one can get resolved by getting killed or there can be confirmed scum in a set or town just wins
I think there’s like 3 of those pairs atm (me/Dwlee, gooey/skitts, ulyana/Cakez)
Obviously only two of those can be a part of this plan for now (if 4 go across without a kill and the game isn’t won yet we can discuss sending over the last pair maybe)
Actually writing that I realized that the way MT worded things when it was asked earlier might put a spanner in the works<Embrace The Void>
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I don't think I can sign off on this just yet.In post 5123, Taly wrote:I'm ok withcakez/ulya/gamma/dwleebeing the first crossers, I mean, I think it's very possible you're all town.
When I just run it by number of times someone said they were okay leaving someone behind, this is what I get
Gamma, peta - 1 vote to not cross
Taly, Dwlee, gooey, ydra - 2 votes to not cross
ulyana, cakez, skitter - 3 votes to not cross
gypyx - 6 votes to not cross
harley, toog - 7 votes to not cross
so the consensus seems to be that 3 out of 4 of the folks who shouldn't be crossing are harley, toog, and gypyx. The challenge is who the fourth should be. All of the people with 3 people voting to leave behind are also people who are in a 1v1 and are thus people we'd want to cross in the first 4. A first 6 plan is out of the question I think, as that would mandate leaving behind a 2 vote person. So I can't really in good conscience make the decision on my own. I've tried to think my way out of this block but nothing feels right.<Embrace The Void>
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We’ve had this song and dance before in this game, twice or more in fact. Could you be right in a sense, sure, but it feels like you’re learning nothing from what went down with me and with Galron/unwnd.In post 5149, petapan wrote:but that being said this does strike me as suspicious, because you sort of came into the game going "it's okay if you flip me" then start barking at us to prove who you're teammates with and insult me for continuing to suspect you. the whole process makse me feel lie your responses are geared toward emotional manipulation into making people not want to leave you behind rather than anything sincere<Embrace The Void>
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I’m not really fighting you on her being left behind though? I just wasn’t a fan of that particular pointIn post 5154, petapan wrote:anyway gamma i'm compromising enough, you get 2 in the PoE that i don't agree on, let me have my stance on her<Embrace The Void>
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peta, you need to fucking cut this out. I know who harley is, and she 100% means it when she says this shit is tearing her apart. WE ALREADY HAD ONE FIASCO THIS FYUCKING GAMER CAN WE NOT HSAVE ANOTHER?!?!??!!?!>?!??<Embrace The Void>
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And this, I thought you also knew who Harley was but clearly not if this is how you see her.In post 5193, Taly wrote:
Best move and my condolences.In post 5191, petapan wrote:
you're gross, don't engage with meIn post 5183, Harley Quinn wrote:I shouldn’t have called you that, I should try to be classy and better than you. I apologise to the rest of the playerlist for my behavior but Peta is seriously harming me with his attitude and it just not acceptable to me.<Embrace The Void>
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this also feels like it's cutting into me as well.I'm probably crossing the line with this but fuck it, I need to let my feelings be known. I don't know what I can do to fix what happened before but I feel like being able to prevent this from passing the event horizon would be enough to make me not be a complete failure for what happened before, and I can't evn manage that rn!!! My entire body is basically goin g into shutdown atp and it's taking all my strenjth to even type this out. I want to be the one who's ther for my friends but I feel like I'm screwing that up. this song kinda encapsulates thew storm of emotions I'm going through better than anything I could write out on my own currrently<Embrace The Void>
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I hadn’t thought about any order other than the pairs going across two by two.
I think the optimal strat would actually be to stagger crossings. So Ulyana should cross next, followed by me, and then Cakez.
Unless we want to branch out on this idea to include skitter+gooey, in which case I surmise 2 orders could work, either an ABCABC order (each pair sending one half across, then the other half) or perhaps ABACBC. I’d personally think ABCABC more functional. I’m postulating on this because I thought I saw something from Ydrasse accepting being a part of those left behind if we get far enough to make the plan involving all 3 pairs work and no kill happens. If I’m dreaming a little too big just let me know.
VOTE: Ulyana
I think sending her across next is my preferred option rn.<Embrace The Void>
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