Holiday Dance Party ---- Game Over

[Firebringer]

sorry to hear u failed ur class too. I hope u had a great christmas today tho

[Firebringer]

i mean last time we played together remember how i used u as a shield all game and u figured out i was scummy for it. yet u don't suspect i am either A) have bad reads or B) manipulating u by telling u im gonna leave the dance on u so that u do what i want to further a scum agenda.

Im just curious why u seem resigned to let me lead. U never seemed to be shy of sharing ur mind in dogs/cats even when people were saying u were wrong/scum or w/e.

[Firebringer]

i always townread people who agree with me. Thats why i townread myself.

[Firebringer]

Are scum playing like an insanely good game or do we just have enough town egos butting heads we can't see the clearing from the trees

[Firebringer]

i have a hard time believing we have concidentally same reads and that ur "datisi maf" was a reaction test to get reads especially given ur reaction to me saying if u said it again im gonna leave u....but okay.

I don't know andante. Its hard to follow u.

[Firebringer]

idk alyssa this feelsl ike if scum win its like...master class in scum games to me. But maybe im just bad at mafia

[Firebringer]

im not confident in a single scumread.

[Firebringer]

Are scum playing like an insanely good game or do we just have enough town egos butting heads we can't see the clearing from the trees

too many stubborn players in one game

I wish that my hero was here. They always solve everything. They are so calm and so impartial. I've spectated a game with them in it, once. They kept Town together so well. They were such an excellent peacekeeper. Though, I've never interacted with them before. I'm sure that they could keep all those players together. But then, their identity shall remain a secret for envy can corrupt the hearts of pure if knowledge seeps into the veins of the volcano.

(I promise that I'll stop sounding so suspenseful in the future.)

I know who this person is.

Penguin Power

[Firebringer]

some people have said im a peacekeeper and kept towns together.
thsoe people are also crazy.
But shockingly some people think im a positive influence in games. As crazy as those people are.

[Firebringer]

Andante, don't take alyssa posts personally she is just poking to see what ur alignment is.
This isn't personal.

[Firebringer]

im surprised u only have a vague opinion of me SS. Or maybe im not. U usually don't have opinions on me tbh

[Firebringer]

Yeah I was gonna say FB, that doesn't seem all that unusual to me.

Well im interested in hearing ur thoughts on andante no matter.
don't think whatever u say on me is gonna impact my thoughts tho

[Firebringer]

Goodnight andante sleep well

[Firebringer]

It would be funnier if u left the dance.

[Firebringer]

Trolls always have the best ideas.

[Firebringer]

Cya in 2 days

[Firebringer]

I want to eat ur corn

[Firebringer]

alyssa does it bug u at all that ur poe list makes it so that ur in a endgame pair even though u been adamant u don't want to endgame.

like it would be ur pair and ss/galron as the 2 last pairs by ur list.

[Firebringer]

ur never sorry for being snarky. i don't believe this apology for a minute

[Firebringer]

I don't think anyone should be unvoted at this point. Everyone should be voting for some pair. Or even the no elim if u got nothing better.

That goes for u 2 Alyssa the nerd.

[Firebringer]

Not Voting [4] - RH9, Galron, Something_Smart, Alyssa the Lamb,

These people and now STD.
U all need to be voting people. This isn't the first 48 hours of a game day or even day1.
THIS IS CRIMINAL UR LACK OF VOTING

[Firebringer]

usually when u have a long drawn out pare of dance with no leaving it results in chain leaves.

[Firebringer]

me

[Firebringer]

i just had a nice workout time to go write out my story post in our pt andante

[Firebringer]

Don’t u hate it when ur dreaming of mafia

[Firebringer]

beginning the wall...

This post is a lie so far

[Firebringer]

i also had a dream about the game last night

but in my dream, i read an article that guiltylion is a front username by a famous chess grandmaster from pakistan, who likes playing mafia anonymously online

and then a neighbour asked me if i wanna go swimming at the beach in the middle of december

so idk how that helps solve the game but

Did u go swimming

[Firebringer]

Dats ur a masochist how would I know u wouldn’t just because of those things

[Firebringer]

I don’t feel like there’s much to talk about
Other than SS and RH9 need to start voting

Do we talk about resistance to our wagon?
Not feeling anything telling me much but motivation is low for most

[Firebringer]

anyone care about the fact that shiro's vote on me is still completely unexplained? no? just me? ok

Maybe I should care about this

[Firebringer]

fire, your vote is still on std/titus? how much do you want to be voting there still?

It’s my worst best vote right now.
Got something spicer for me?

[Firebringer]

Don’t get into arguments pls

[Firebringer]

If I wasn’t on Titus/std
I would be voting hq/shiro

Not like I have any discernible strong scumreads. So if hq yells at me for this she needs to not.
Just saying. I’m just gonna be voting weakest reads and while shiro isn’t a scumread he isn’t a townread

[Firebringer]

didn't you say you thought shiro was town? what changed?

I thought shiro was town but I think it was just shiro presence and way he is talking to me. Which isn’t hard to fake, he is talking to me like I am town and while I think shiro would see me town here I haven’t seen shiro actually been solving or mindset on why i am town. All stuff I see lately of shiro is saying his scum game is not being represented fairly. Where is solving shiro

[Firebringer]

Shiro seemed to have been solving a week ago. But there’s a lot of just mixed in commentary about general game movements
I don’t think scum shiro can’t do this?

[Firebringer]

Harley I don’t care what you say about Shiro.

[Firebringer]

tinfoil HQ+Shiro SvS theory

we had that tinfoil like 3 days ago, keep up

My tin foil is no scum.
Top that

[Firebringer]

Shiro flipping town and Hq flipping scum would sure be a plot twist tho

[Firebringer]

Why r u certain andante is town?

[Firebringer]

Ur not factoring in previous experience with her? This is just vibe of her being “innocent”

[Firebringer]

if it's fire town and andante scum i'm not going to lose any sleep over it

Wow how rude

[Firebringer]

Now to cook up something so STD loses some sleep over it

[Firebringer]

for fire

Spoiler:

Lol good meme

[Firebringer]

and I have a feeling fire is also town, so limming fire and I? we lose a T/T pair, then maf kills T/T, and sounds like we're gonna lose

If we lose we lose that’s the game
I don’t think u proclaiming ur town will change hearts and minds

[Firebringer]

I am only player in this game who doesn’t townread his partner.

[Firebringer]

I am only player in this game who doesn’t townread his partner.

Like that’s good enough for me. I didn’t tr Red/Meg in pair and I was right.

I’m not talking to u

[Firebringer]

This is my heads up Andante. I am leaving the dance in 24 hours. Pls get out everything you want to get out before then.
If anyone has questions for me/andante now is the time.

Taly posted his wall, and I am done with the stalemate.

[Firebringer]

that doesn't mean he doesn't yolo leave dance games

fire can you flesh out your andante read?

ive talked about it a bit. Especially 2 days ago with alyssa and andante talking. Do i need to go back and quote mine myself

[Firebringer]

its okay andante, we can shit post in dead pt after this is over.

[Firebringer]

Fire you can help me Lynch Datisi and GL

*puppy eyes*

Shiro this is my biggest townread pair.
I am in fact most worried when i leave. Yall are just gonna yeet them and then we lose the game.
This is one of biggest reasons I haven't left yet, some yall just want them dead and I couldn't disagree more.

[Firebringer]

I still want SS and RH9 to be voting and not sidelining here.

[Firebringer]

Sigh

Its not like people take my reads seriously when I am here anyways.

[Firebringer]

I am in fact most worried when i leave. Yall are just gonna yeet them and then we lose the game.
This is one of biggest reasons I haven't left yet, some yall just want them dead and I couldn't disagree more.

fire, could you make a case before you leave? so that if we get yeeted, i get to not only say "i told you so", but also "firebringer told you so".

ill try making a wall before i go.
I am going to go play some halo infinite this is a day of for me.

[Firebringer]

i town

need town pics for proof

[Firebringer]

VOTE: SHIRO
COMPETING WAGONS DRAMA

explain ur townread on me now Shiro.

[Firebringer]

Because as scum you don't try as much. You try to fake the uncaring self but can't fully do it because you don't want to disappoint you fellow scum players.

I don't see that here. I see the town fire that doesn't give a damn and just plays for the heck of it.

when did this start and what posts made u think this

[Firebringer]

this VC is going to be very interesting come second dance

give me ur corn u nerd

[Firebringer]

Fire is just pocketed imo

WHO AM I POCKETED BY

[Firebringer]

I can see an argument that dats has been trying to pocket me by encouraging my townread. (I heavily doubt this before dats yells at me)
GL.....no, don't see that and yet everyone thinks he is scum half of that pair. And yet he hasn't been egging me on to get into fights with yall about my read on them.

[Firebringer]

I'm kinda not feeling a scum Shiro anymore

i don't either.

VOTE: Fire

[Firebringer]

I am leaning more on Dat being scum on the pair soooo *shrug*

i don't think ive been pocketed by scum in a long long long time.
And I really don't think dats scum is capable of the game he been playing here.

[Firebringer]

Yes, shiro pls explain dat being scum here.
And yes dats i will towncase u and gl before i go. Don't bully me.

[Firebringer]

Fire is it too much to ask to trust me and vote Datisi and GL.

yes, i think im much more involved with this game then u, so i don't trust ur reads have as much to it other than vibes which might not be wrong but im not gonna blindly trust it.

[Firebringer]

Shiro/HQ, if and when Datisi and I flip T-T, will you accept being autolimmed immediately afterwards, before Fire/Andante

yes or no

let us not plan out chain lims or leaves

[Firebringer]

I still need ur corn.

[Firebringer]

andante was shouting dats was mafia not too long ago, i really want to know when andante changed to townreading him, or what she got out of the "reaction test" of calling him mafia

[Firebringer]

have any of u tried smoking weed instead of complaining about the game

[Firebringer]

Fire the other day you mentioned cards with your family, what was the card game? My family loves hearts & spades

we played cribbage, trumps, and a variant of 500 that probably has a different name but we just call it 500 cause the wikipedia doesn't match that game at all except for the objective is to keep playing rounds until person gets a score of 500.

[Firebringer]

it's illegal here and i don't know any good dealers

But u do know of some dealers
Alright, well maybe exercise everytime this game gets on ur nerves i guess. This game isn't worth being broken over

[Firebringer]

if i had exercised every time a game of mafia got on my nerves, i'd have won multiple olympic medals by now lmao

then go win those olympic medals dude

[Firebringer]

i want to see dats after this mafia game is over with jacked leg muscles and 4 medals over his head being like "I lost mafia game but I won rl"

[Firebringer]

im actually being pretty serious, just overexaggerating a bit for some comedic effect

[Firebringer]

i was only referring to "why don't you smoke some weed" as shitposting, but in hindsight it's probably wrong too

i have been taking fire's solving very seriously this game which y'all would know if my posts were actually getting read lole

what productive thing have u decided on for u pact

[Firebringer]

i don't want you to comment on anything, i was just ??? at you implying that i'm saying firebringer has been only shitposting this game

i think taly was just reacting to a post he saw not really saying that or trying to imply that.

[Firebringer]

i was only referring to "why don't you smoke some weed" as shitposting, but in hindsight it's probably wrong too

i have been taking fire's solving very seriously this game which y'all would know if my posts were actually getting read lole

what productive thing have u decided on for u pact

bold of you to assume i'm gonna actually go through with that

as ur lawyer, im trying to hold u accountable.

[Firebringer]

im listening andante but im still waiting on u answering my questions regarding dats

[Firebringer]

i feel like that raises more questions than answered.
i think dats has questioned u on that. i think she quoted me and asked u about it.

[Firebringer]

i feel like that raises more questions than answered.
i think dats has questioned u on that. i think she quoted me and asked u about it.

he*

sorry

[Firebringer]

was your read on me not just "i'm sheeping fire lolz"?

yeah it was

YOU SAID YOU INDEPENTENTLY READ DATS AS TOWN BUT U DID A REACTION TEST.

AM I GOING NUTS

[Firebringer]

Andante and STD are never SvS here. I doubt that’s a shock to anyone but thought I’d state the obvious anyway, lol

okay im gonna be the stupid one to ask the question:
why?

[Firebringer]

Andante and STD are never SvS here. I doubt that’s a shock to anyone but thought I’d state the obvious anyway, lol

okay im gonna be the stupid one to ask the question:
why?

well first off, I'd have to be scum for us to both be scum...

id like to hear from harley but if u have more than that like to know that too

[Firebringer]

STD says he scumreads me just because i haven't left the dance yet.

[Firebringer]

Andante and STD are never SvS here. I doubt that’s a shock to anyone but thought I’d state the obvious anyway, lol

okay im gonna be the stupid one to ask the question:
why?

Does this look like scum theatre to you? If so, please explain it to me then? Both Andante and STD want to lim the other pair. So you tell me your take on that.

its called distancing?

[Firebringer]

i haven't seen anything between andante and std that tells me there even needs to be scum theatre. These 2 have barely talked to each other all game.
What part of this is hard to fake from a "theatre" aspect. Yes they want to eliminate each other pair. And yet they have little interactions, and both are barely pushing other directly STD is pushing me not andante, and Andante while saying STD is scum is not interacting with him.

How can this not a be a S/S besides andante point that andante is town.

[Firebringer]

dragons and I is in no way theater.... Dragons is pushing Fire, not even me. I'm pushing dragons. yall are so smart. go team!

my point is there is no theatre, u 2 have barely talked to each other.

[Firebringer]

I agree with andante tho
VOTE: STD

[Firebringer]

I am not snuggly.
And who told u about my constipation

[Firebringer]

(+5) Save the Dragons
Another player that I feel has just honestly vibed with me more than not, there is just very little that suggests their alignment either way. I think what I initially enjoyed about this slot is more so a playstyle in finding fun as often as scum because they're capable of actively quote-by-quote walling players and they've since just reinforced popular beliefs in the thread. I want to trust Titus' perception of this slot and out of all the pairs, I feel more comfortable with this pairing being able to discern what is scum, I just don't have as good a reason to townread this slot as I do with the majority of the playerlist.

I skipped Taly explanation of STD and the more i read this the more I think Titus and Taly are snowed.

[Firebringer]

why does scum!std pocket you specifically again?

why does std townread andante

[Firebringer]

(+5) Save the Dragons
Another player that I feel has just honestly vibed with me more than not, there is just very little that suggests their alignment either way. I think what I initially enjoyed about this slot is more so a playstyle in finding fun as often as scum because they're capable of actively quote-by-quote walling players and they've since just reinforced popular beliefs in the thread. I want to trust Titus' perception of this slot and out of all the pairs, I feel more comfortable with this pairing being able to discern what is scum, I just don't have as good a reason to townread this slot as I do with the majority of the playerlist.

I skipped Taly explanation of STD and the more i read this the more I think Titus and Taly are snowed.

what makes you think they are scum, exactly?

I don't believe STDs reads are genuine. I think sure he isn't going along with consensus totally on reads but I think his reads don't have actual town analysis behind it now. The more I thought about his andante read the more I thought either A) STD is not actively reading game if he thinks andante is town at this point or B) his read was never real to begin with
I kind of feel the same vibe with me, like sure I can see STD thinking im scummy for not leaving, but I think thats the easy way of faking something u would believe as town, not actually looking into it. Sure he mentioned he isn't thinking about it much (apparently telling Titus its a lazy meta read) however I don't believe it anymore.

I want as much pressure on STD because I want to see him pull out his analysis like when in pokemon him and tsq got into it. Right now i think he is sliding by with not needing to outdo any usual expectations.

[Firebringer]

Alyssa ur cute.

[Firebringer]

more like pupper vs dragon
I want to see STD show up soon. Otherwise i got to go do my town cases on dats and gl ive been delaying and then peace out

[Firebringer]

u shouldn't be hurt by HQ insulting ur abilities Taly, she has basically done it to everyone in this game at least once.

[Firebringer]

Did someone say they needed someone to be nice to Taly

I'm on mobile and can only give the game half attention till tomorrow, but if there's anything you want to chat about I'm down.

U can be nice to taly by putting ur GOD DAMN VOTE SOMEWHERE

[Firebringer]

ngl I'm heavily considering just leaving once second dance starts

this game has become way too much of a shitshow for me

ur too much of a masochist to do it.

[Firebringer]

ngl I'm heavily considering just leaving once second dance starts

this game has become way too much of a shitshow for me

ur too much of a masochist to do it.

you mentioned before that you think I have influence in this game

I really don't

u really do, as soon as i asked u to get involved whole mood of game switched into solvey mode. Now that ur zaped of motivation here we are again where u think we are infinite cycle.

Its like u don't even realize how ur own mood is affecting ur influence and thus impacting game chaos.

[Firebringer]

U can be nice to taly by putting ur GOD DAMN VOTE SOMEWHERE

I will if he asks me to. All else being equal, I wanted the day to last till tomorrow so I can do some reading.

we have less than 24 hrs at this point, and i also am planning on leaving 6 hours before deadline if we don't reach consensus. So we really don't have time.

[Firebringer]

that's probably more an indicator of who exactly was there at that time more than anything

no it was ur posting u nerd

[Firebringer]

okay, hold on

VOTE: Andante

immediate game moment change out of the repeated cycle. Whole vibe of the next 5 pages is a completely diff game to 30 pages before and u know it.

[Firebringer]

fire threatened to leave and gave some good points. i like that he's trying to challenge me, he's wrong but he's not wrong that in pokemon i did more. i remember a lot of shitposts in this game from him but he's also said some good stuff.

So who do u want to yeet? R u saying im right about my analysis that ur not really into the game and ur not really looking at either me or andante?

Also idk if its just me, but if that was the case of u wrote off andante early as town for being innocent, and ur now town on me for my challenging of u. I would be rethinking andante by how she is pushing u right now? But ur still treating her like town to me. Do u get what im seeing here?

[Firebringer]

Is andante doing a performance because i said the interactions between andante and std were non existent?
This interactions feel a bit weird and it feels weird on both sides.

[Firebringer]

Time to write up my walls. Everyone pls do a drum roll.

[Firebringer]

I was one leading charge on STD, Shiro.

[Firebringer]

Before I start with this i should inform u all how disorganized this is. First when I write up analysis i go through posts and make comments and thoughts as I go

Spoiler: GuiltyLion Analysis

First thing I noticed was 92, to me in context it was weird mentioning not wanting to dance with marcistar this early but i think in context it was also other people saying marci openning was scummy (no one said datisi but a few said they had gent scum read which i guess is marci here or maybe im rewriting past)

Guiltylion early posting is alot more relaxed than I am used to or I remember in this game, i remember him having more solvey serious tone but this is the first dozen pages. Just weird i don't remember this.

His early interactions seem natural with marcistar it doesn't seem like ones in which outright feel forced/or stale. Then here 151 he thinks marci post in response to him was buddying

The post 161 is coming from a town mindset, of course this kind of thoughts/mechanic thinking doesn't mean it can't be from scum.

His interactions with catboi later and how they both interact over andante is such a town push here. Like GL is first going and questioning andante and catboi comes in and accuses it of bad faith push and gl has this detailed analysis in which i think is probably wrong but i can see the thoughts and i think this is not easy to fake as scum.
talking 261

309 i think this is a weird thought for scum to have as an "advantage" i mean it tells me GL was thinking about the game before it started which i guess goes either way, personally i can't see this as advantage maybe this is one of those things u can discuss in scum pt so if u want to squint maybe gl was talking about taly in PT but also why bother mention it here as an "advantage". Ill squeeze this as a town point

I think GL falls into trap of reading peoples emotions as genuine and its a pitfall for him as town? Does his reads change from post 327

U want to see a good push on marci? Look at 568 I want to say two things about this post that makes me want to just fricking quit this iso at this point and just shove it down anyones face who thinks im wrong on GL town.

1) Does scum GL need to give this kind of analysis for this "distancing" push he asks on her friend. I want to remind u if he is scum he knows marci is scum so why is he posting like this. I am not saying impossible im saying this kind of line isn't needed to push this way

2) If GL wants town points, why doesn't he push this for credit on marci flip. I don't even god damn remember him getting any marci scum credit.

His interactions with LLD and their little fight was not scum!GL, I said this so long ago but rereading me is reminding me of it. Scum!GL would just be breaking down LLD case brick by brick finding any whole to puncture, he wouldn't be getting frustrated telling her how wrong she is or losing his composure like this. Unless someone wants to show me scum game of GL losing it like this, I think im right.


Look at these 832 833 in context of the LLD fights these just scream town to me as well that is hung up on LLD scum that he is losing focus of other reads. I so buy he thinks LLD. This so reminds me of when someone shit pushes me and im like "this person is bullshiting"

843

Okay this took me half hour and I read more than half of his first page ISO. I don't know how much more I need to read, this is just town to me.

GuiltyLion town.

Who wants to argue with me on it before I go since almost no one says dats is scum.

[Firebringer]

Before I start with this i should inform u all how disorganized this is. First when I write up analysis i go through posts and make comments and thoughts as I go

Spoiler: GuiltyLion Analysis

First thing I noticed was 92, to me in context it was weird mentioning not wanting to dance with marcistar this early but i think in context it was also other people saying marci openning was scummy (no one said datisi but a few said they had gent scum read which i guess is marci here or maybe im rewriting past)

Guiltylion early posting is alot more relaxed than I am used to or I remember in this game, i remember him having more solvey serious tone but this is the first dozen pages. Just weird i don't remember this.

His early interactions seem natural with marcistar it doesn't seem like ones in which outright feel forced/or stale. Then here 151 he thinks marci post in response to him was buddying

The post 161 is coming from a town mindset, of course this kind of thoughts/mechanic thinking doesn't mean it can't be from scum.

His interactions with catboi later and how they both interact over andante is such a town push here. Like GL is first going and questioning andante and catboi comes in and accuses it of bad faith push and gl has this detailed analysis in which i think is probably wrong but i can see the thoughts and i think this is not easy to fake as scum.
talking 261

309 i think this is a weird thought for scum to have as an "advantage" i mean it tells me GL was thinking about the game before it started which i guess goes either way, personally i can't see this as advantage maybe this is one of those things u can discuss in scum pt so if u want to squint maybe gl was talking about taly in PT but also why bother mention it here as an "advantage". Ill squeeze this as a town point

I think GL falls into trap of reading peoples emotions as genuine and its a pitfall for him as town? Does his reads change from post 327

U want to see a good push on marci? Look at 568 I want to say two things about this post that makes me want to just fricking quit this iso at this point and just shove it down anyones face who thinks im wrong on GL town.

1) Does scum GL need to give this kind of analysis for this "distancing" push he asks on her friend. I want to remind u if he is scum he knows marci is scum so why is he posting like this. I am not saying impossible im saying this kind of line isn't needed to push this way

2) If GL wants town points, why doesn't he push this for credit on marci flip. I don't even god damn remember him getting any marci scum credit.

His interactions with LLD and their little fight was not scum!GL, I said this so long ago but rereading me is reminding me of it. Scum!GL would just be breaking down LLD case brick by brick finding any whole to puncture, he wouldn't be getting frustrated telling her how wrong she is or losing his composure like this. Unless someone wants to show me scum game of GL losing it like this, I think im right.


Look at these 832 833 in context of the LLD fights these just scream town to me as well that is hung up on LLD scum that he is losing focus of other reads. I so buy he thinks LLD. This so reminds me of when someone shit pushes me and im like "this person is bullshiting"

843

Okay this took me half hour and I read more than half of his first page ISO. I don't know how much more I need to read, this is just town to me.

GuiltyLion town.

Who wants to argue with me on it before I go since almost no one says dats is scum.

[Firebringer]

wow double post and im colorblind because that was green before i posted

[Firebringer]

someone come in here and tell me which 2 others they want isos before i go. Or if you want more analysis on GL (i know i cut it short but i dodn't want to spend all night just on GL).

[Firebringer]

do Alyssa I trust your read on her

Okay.
Will do that right now.

Fire, is there any scum equity among {Titus, Alsyssa, Guilty LIon}?

I would say if there is one I would think its Titus, but that is only based on my horrible track record with Titus. I don't actually think she is scum here.

[Firebringer]

Spoiler: Alyssa

Instead of going through and commenting on posts as I go with GL when I read alyssa I will give you general thoughts that i might back up with specific examples and what I generally think.

So normally i scumread alyssa when she is town. I haven't felt she is scum at all this game. I will say a lot of what she has done isn't something i would outright say is like "out of her scumrange" w/e that limit is. I will say generally there hasn't been this out of sync kind of tone/thoughts that made me think she is scum motivated. Like, the most I can see is her idea of both being an endgame pair here while denying she is gonna be one even though her plan indirectly says she is one. Which again could just mean like she has said her reads kind of force her into that situation.

I think alyssa could at multiple points in this game directed the game in a more break up the town/brute force her pref game but she has been playing neutral to it all and just commenting on general vibe game while giving her general thoughts. She isn't playing kingmaker/chessplayer here imo. If she is scum I guess her outlined plan is just rely on town blowing itself like she has been saying is going on and just reinforce that with her own posts about how hopeless it all is.

Her reads have changed quite a bit over game actually, and its not like just obvious in the posts themselves how they are moving so I can't tell u outright it isn't like maneuvering or just her thoughts but from my memory whenever alyssa was active in thread her thoughts seemed transparent as those thoughts were moving around.

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Stalemate is over.

Farewell to you all, I shall see you all on the other side of this game.

I leave the dance

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if you were scum alyssa, u owe me lots of corn.

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Two things:

1) FUCK I LOST THE BET. I WAS SO SURE TALY WAS GOING TO HOLLDDD THE LINE

2) I TOLD YALL WEEKS AGO DATS AND GL SHOULD BE ENDGAME PAIR SO I AM VINDICATED!

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This game was infinitely harder than it ever needed to be

everyone in this game made it harder on ourselves.
If we stuck to the plan of dats/gl endgame pair lets yeet everyone else, we would ahve been finished weeks ago.

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dats/gl and shiro/hq everyone else just auto leaves. game is over

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Now i have to wear whatever evil monstrosity pooky picks out for me as an avi for 2 months.
Damn it taly, u should have argued harder with dats to leave

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Now i have to wear whatever evil monstrosity pooky picks out for me as an avi for 2 months.
Damn it taly, u should have argued harder with dats to leave

HAHAHA SUCK IT BITCH

ur so mean to dead thread, and most of us were just cheering u on for whole game

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alyssa not to be an ass, but ill say it anyway
u were not sane even with taly around, u and taly were both going crazy and u both formed like a junkie co-dependency of like "no we fine we going to quit drugs tomorrow its all going to be okay" before u both spiraled again and then came back to each other.

It was crazy to watch. I would never say u two kept each other "sane" lol.

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I wonder how game would have gone if i did insta accept Talys proposal.

I would have bullied u alot

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all my predictions for how this game was gonna turn out from the moment i died was so wild and off the mark, i should never have made any bets on this game. This was truly like watching a movie in which u really can't predict the ending.

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Damn it taly, u should have argued harder with dats to leave

fun fact: if it came down to 12 hours until deadline, i would've made a post saying "ok taly, i am peacing out from this game. you can either leave the dance or let the deadline run out. glhf"

u know thats funny because i was telling pooky in dms
im like "listen the only way town loses is GL leaves dance, dats might hate this game, but he is a true masochist and he will suffer for as long as he needs to and he just doesn't see GL scum here"

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I think Titus needs to eat her hat if i am remembering correctly, right GL?

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Subject: Datisi & GuiltyLion Dance PT

why are you getting paranoid of me now when our pair is like always flipping lol

Little did Datisi know when he made this post.

He was destined to two more weeks of hell and would be last pair standing.

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Okay i finished reading whole datisi/Gl pt, it was pretty enjoyable. For someone who says pTs are pointless and was just shitposting a story in mine, I quit enjoyed their dance of paranoia between the two while being mutually assured they are never making endgame so they don't have to worry each about it.

Was quite adorable.

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Okay i finished reading whole datisi/Gl pt, it was pretty enjoyable. For someone who says pTs are pointless and was just shitposting a story in mine, I quit enjoyed their dance of paranoia between the two while being mutually assured they are never making endgame so they don't have to worry each about it.

Was quite adorable.

Did you read Alyssa's/mine?

No, u think its a good read?

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we don't need to air out drama in post game.
this is for fun and rehab for all the trauma we all endured to get here.

if u have problems with someone we can deal with that by calmly discussing it, not sniping at each other, though in my experience its not ever gonna be a calm discussion so probably just best to avoid that.

Harley, if you have problems with players and how they played u know especially with people u already have very high contention with constructive feedback of things to do to people u think played poorly is better than just saying you shouldn't make X mistake or ignored Y. Not everyone sees game like you, so how will they know next time that they should listen to Y, or how does voting X a mistake here. Also again people don't understand other peoples metas like you do, so if yo uare offering improvements there, it won't likely help to tell them they should know your understanding of meta. If you think they could improve on meta knowledge or exposure good fine.

The listening to X part is a difficult thing to ask because the person they ahve to be listening to usually has to have proven track record of being right on X for it to be of merit to people, and most peoples true track records are complex and usually a texas sharpshooter fallacy, if you think X made good arguments then its usually better to rely on those good arguments than saying X is right. Unless X has good track recrod on Y or has general tendency of record.

Anyways, thats my long piece on that. I am gonna go workout.

This game was fun

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ngl I was pretty much expecting to be the source of a lot of sniping even though I don't think my trajectories really were that bad

the issue was that the way the pairings happened made it extremely hard to find a good way to navigate first dance

and I fucked up by calling for Fire/Andante leaving second because that left the biggest elephant in the room

the game got way better at 8p but I think mentals were too broken by that point

ur trajectories were really good prior to me leaving then it went downhill, then u had a really good moment of clarity, then u jumped off a cliff.

FYI pooky posted when i had best reads, literally first 20 some pages of game and by time i died i was demanding a T/T Flip so I am def not immune to any criticism.

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Gl/dats thread best thread
Beat quotable parts of pts I’m seeing

Pooky 100% right

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you played a really strong game, definitely one to be proud of tbh

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S_S in particular I wanna give a shoutout on the scumteam, totally turned his slot around from a difficult spot to replace into, he totally snowed me and it's not the first time he's done that but maaaan I even had my guard up this time and he still did it, well played and gosh it must have been rough to go down like that at the final hour, I think if Datisi/I were limmed instead you very likely could have won

So much this, SS went from like one of my "lets leave this person out of dance because i have no read and is probably scum" to "ohh shit SS can't be scum this amount of effort an analysis couldn't be scum SS". If you kept up that same energy level u had pre intermission, u def would have carried to end but u totally lost all motivation it seemed like that is the biggest criticism.

Also u had a few changes of yeeting town if u just took it and I think u should have. Would have been a very diff game if you voted out Dats/GL when they were at E-1

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It is incredibly hard to keep up scum motivation when the thread is 90% 2 TT pairs death-tunneling each other

it is really, playing that long scum game with that same energy is so much more exhausting on a scum player. I know it, ur constantly going "what do i even say at this point. no one suspecting me, town is blowing up at each other. If i keep posting i worry if i say anything it will turn around on me" and when SS was starting to get more involved again thats kind of what was happening to him.

Like there is a good saying of "don't interrupt ur opponent when they are making a mistake" but also SS could/should have capitilized on mistakes to push forward his end-goal objective of pairings to win i think. If you play middle ground too long in the T/T death match ur just asking for them to turn it back on u if it gets resolved