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REJOICE! For your SAVIOR is--oh, wait, this is a cult game, I shouldn't open with that.
Hi I am a maso--oh, wait, this is a cult game, I shouldn't open with that.
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(Okay but for real, I intend to be a BEACON this game, REVEALING the TRUE COLORS of all.)In post 18, mastina wrote:REJOICE! For your SAVIOR is--oh, wait, this is a cult game, I shouldn't open with that.
Hi I am a maso--oh, wait, this is a cult game, I shouldn't open with that.
Hi, I am town.-
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In post 12, Maid Cafe wrote:UWU
Town.In post 24, Radical Rat wrote:VOTE: furtiveglance
Obviously Lunar is the superior cult, if we were to be in oneIn post 6, furtiveglance wrote:Not saying I'm Cult, but if I was I'd be Solar.In post 9, Save The Dragons wrote:HiiiiiiTown?
Scum?In post 8, professotic wrote:who should we elim?-
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(More, including readslist, when home from work.)In post 49, mastina wrote:In post 12, Maid Cafe wrote:UWU
Town.In post 24, Radical Rat wrote:VOTE: furtiveglance
Obviously Lunar is the superior cult, if we were to be in oneIn post 6, furtiveglance wrote:Not saying I'm Cult, but if I was I'd be Solar.In post 9, Save The Dragons wrote:HiiiiiiTown?
Scum?In post 8, professotic wrote:who should we elim?-
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In post 25, Dingle Dangle Scarecrow wrote:Yoink!
Town.In post 34, Yume wrote:I am Talia. Believe it or not, it's true. As true as the fact that Aegon the Conqueror had two wives.
I knew you'd appreciate it. <3In post 27, Past Present Future wrote:
I laughed.In post 18, mastina wrote:REJOICE! For your SAVIOR is--oh, wait, this is a cult game, I shouldn't open with that.
Hi I am a maso--oh, wait, this is a cult game, I shouldn't open with that.
Hi, I am town.
~Titus
(Also town.)
I just wish it were with you as town. </3In post 44, Frozen Angel wrote:Anyways missed you, my friends. long time no see <3 been a while since I played a game here
Scum.
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Town.In post 57, Save The Dragons wrote:I don't plan on learning the mechanics are they difficult
Scum?In post 52, Bunnyonce wrote:Speaking for myself: the mechanical speculation and her enthusiasm seemed towny.
I guess you could argue that's a level 0 take, but whatever.
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I mean, you right!In post 80, Radical Rat wrote:VOTE: professotic
I can't really quantify it, but it feels like they're playing looking for someone to kill rather than looking for scum. Just the way they're engaging feels... Wrong.
VOTE: professotic
{Past Present Future} (most locktown of locktown)
{Save the Dragons, Yume} (basically most, but need just abitmore from both to be sure)
{Radical Rat, Dingle Dangle Scarecrow (may be one lower)}
{Maid Cafe, MMR}
TOWNLEAN:
{furtiveglance}
{Enchant}
{T-Bone}
{Child of Fairies}
{Radja}
{Frozen Angel}
{Bunnyonce}
SCUM:
{Korina}
{professotic}
(Yes I am aware that's too few scum since the approximate amount should be 6, so I'm townreading slots I shouldn't be, but fornow, this'll do.)-
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Because I said so.In post 93, Frozen Angel wrote:Can you explain how the two of these are in your almost lock-town slots when their game hasn't even start yet?
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That's literally my null tier. I don't have a read there.In post 95, MMR wrote:mastina, can you explain your read on Child of Fairies?-
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I realize I neglected this game tonight but I meant to get around to it, promise.
I can't tonight, I'm tired, hungry, need to take meds, ran out of fluids, am running on fumes, etc. So, apologies; will be here tomorrow. (At least I hope.)
Also need to make sure I don't miss doctor appointment and such so like.
I thought I had the time to play tonight, I did not actually, sorry, but will make up for it tomorrow (at least I hope).
I will say that I don't think much will change from this list but I owe explanations of it and will obviously still need to refine it.In post 92, mastina wrote:{Past Present Future} (most locktown of locktown)
{Save the Dragons, Yume} (basically most, but need just abitmore from both to be sure)
{Radical Rat, Dingle Dangle Scarecrow (may be one lower)}
{Maid Cafe, MMR}
TOWNLEAN:
{furtiveglance}
{Enchant}
{T-Bone}
{Child of Fairies}
{Radja}
{Frozen Angel}
{Bunnyonce}
SCUM:
{Korina}
{professotic}
(Yes I am aware that's too few scum since the approximate amount should be 6, so I'm townreading slots I shouldn't be, but fornow, this'll do.)-
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In post 106, Radical Rat wrote:Mastina, where's the Korina read coming from? They've done literally nothing and are getting replaced, so I don't see how they can be anything but nullThat ain't nothing to me.
That's a scum entrance.
Because tictac is playing to his multiball-scum-meta.In post 107, professotic wrote:@Mastina in your own words, why do you find us wolfy?-
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StD moves to my highest tier of locktown, and FA moves down to more scum (with an asterisk admittedly).In post 140, Save The Dragons wrote:You literally just shaded me again and are saying you are not shading me in the same breath-
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Basic math.In post 144, Bunnyonce wrote:
What makes you think 6 is the approximate amount?In post 92, mastina wrote:[...]
(Yes I am aware that's too few scum since the approximate amount should be 6, so I'm townreading slots I shouldn't be, but for now, this'll do.)
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There's 17 players in the game.
If there's 4 scum per faction for 8 total, that's 8 scum to 9 town. Town would legitimately only have a one-player lead over the scum.
If there's 2 scum per faction for 4 total, that's a ridiculously small scumteam for both. I suppose two per team is possible if they DO have a recruitment mechanic, but if the game lacks a recruitment mechanic or has it be incredibly gated, then the approximate amount should be three per faction.-
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Oi it's never random regardless of my alignment.In post 147, Save The Dragons wrote:Mastina is a slot I'd like to sort later. I think this is just what she does and if it's entirely random she's scum but if it makes some sense she's probably town. I am leaning toward the latter.
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Yo, I think you're town but this is a very very very bad take.In post 155, Radical Rat wrote:What defines "worth it" here? Because it sure sounds like either mastina's your buddy, or you're trying to make us think she is.
VOTE: T-Bone
I buy this.
What a shame, that means instead of being accurate you're going to be inaccurate because most of my reads are going to be right! I can see into the hearts of others and their inner darkness/light.In post 153, MMR wrote:Hmm, I think I disagree with most of these reads.-
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It is specifically because I have seen you as scum twice that I know this is your multiball scum meta.In post 157, professotic wrote:mastina read on us does strike me as unplausible, since she just saw me as scum twice
Well you, I don't know; your posts don't give me an alignment without that knowledge. So with you as null and tictac as clearly scum...In post 167, professotic wrote:Maybe try talking to the great professor?-
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That's the thing tho.In post 182, MMR wrote:I do agree with you that mastina's read on STD is a bit off. I don't feel like his content at the time when she made the read, was exactly that Towny.
UNVOTE: FA for now.
STD's town/scum meta are night/day different. And this game STD is a beacon of light. This is his towngame through and through. He's literally radiating his alignment, a shining beacon of towniness. He is town, 100%. Like, genuinely top-tier townread, town. He cannot be scum here.
Frozen Angel also has a town/scum meta that are night/day different. The asterisk to my read on FA here is that I don't know which is which.
I KNOW that FA has a night/day difference in her town meta and her scum meta.
I'm PRETTY sure that this is the night half, that this is the scum half, that this is FA as scum. But the asterisk on my read is that I might be remembering it backwards. I'm PRETTY sure I'm getting it right that this is the scum half tho.-
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This is a very good post, and a very good read.In post 186, Bunnyonce wrote:VOTE: professotic
Probably my best scumread so far. Not the strongest, but I'm fairly confident there's enough odd stuff going on with this slot.
I've played with tictac briefly. Never played with ProfessorDrapion, but witnessed him play in Mini Normal 2280, which I hosted. They don't sign their posts, but from what I've read, I would estimate like 70-80% of content comes from tictac and only 20-30% comes from ProfessorDrapion. And this is the first thing that is off about this slot. In my experience, tictac has been less active than he is in his past games and ProfessorDrapion has been one of the most active in Mini Normal 2280. Even if his posts didn't give too much content, he was always kinda there. This activity pattern makes me think that they might have decided to let tictac lead the way and ProfessorDrapion take a step back.
I've had a bad vibe fromEnchant's entrance post too. Obviously I know it was RVS, yadda yadda etc. But still, at the timeDingle Dangle Scarecrowmade 26, I thought this is a valid early read, andprofessotic(most likely the tictac head) coming afterScarecrowposting this was unwarranted (60). Also, the vote itself (31), RVS or not, came chronologically before the justification for it (60). None of these two things would bother me so much individually, but in combination they are giving me en err vibe. So that's the second thing.
I don't buy thefurtiveglancetownread at all. In my experience, he's been quite active and actively scumhunting in his past games, and I get the feeling that he doesn't care that much about this game at all. This doesn't really warrant townreading him, especially with such confidence. That's the third thing.
~Greeting
It definitely makes them not scum with professotic.
I don't think it makes them town, mind you.
But it's a VERY good post. A damn good one.-
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Multiball, so: yes.In post 198, Save The Dragons wrote:the upside is i don't know if scum would make a post that disgusting so maybe i'm coming around to you being town-
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Not nearly as strongly as I'd prefer, but loosely, yes.In post 235, Past Present Future wrote:In post 34, Yume wrote:I am Talia. Believe it or not, it's true. As true as the fact that Aegon the Conqueror had two wives.In post 128, Yume wrote:Yo@Mastina, are you still tr this?
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Well basically, scum can scumhunt in multiball.In post 245, Past Present Future wrote:Can you elaborate on this? I have almost no experience playing multiball and how do you distinguish multiball meta from singleball meta?
Some towntells are still towntells;
Some scumtells are still scumtells;
Some tells are exclusive to multiball by being things that are scum-in-multiball-indicative.
I have a doctor's appointment so I can't really elaborate more right now, but that's the basic breakdown;
tictac is showing his multiball scumtells.-
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Multiball ain't exactly common enough to have a boatload of games for a player as scum.In post 253, Past Present Future wrote:@Mastina what exactly is tictac’s multiball scum meta? Can you link some games for me?
But I can maybe do the links later.-
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LOCKTOWN:
{Past Present Future, Save The Dragons} (most locktown of locktown)
TOWN:
{Yume, Radical Rat, Dingle Dangle Scarecrow}
{Maid Cafe, MMR}
TOWNLEAN:
{furtiveglance}
{Enchant}
{T-Bone}
{Child of Fairies}
{Radja}
{Bunnyonce}
SCUM:
{Korina}
{Frozen Angel}
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I mean, to be fair: I have internalized my process more, where I do a lot of things automatically that I used to write out manually.In post 265, Frozen Angel wrote:I swear that understanding mastina posts and reads was not this hard few years ago.
Writing them out manually makes it much easier for others to understand, but I just don't have the time to do it most of the time which is why I learned to internalize it in the first place.
Also, I find that I have more value to the town by just acting like a bit of a shotgun flamethrower: pushing with a strong punch, to help lay down rapid-fire content for the rest of the town to react to and then interact with.
There are always players who end up ignoring my posts, but players reacting to my posts are not ignored by the players ignoring my posts, so there's always players who get extra content from me being in the game. So I'm not really concerned about accuracy. I try to be accurate, but I put a lot less work into being accurate.
I like to be lazy with my reads until I don't need to be lazy with them. Which means that I push them strongly, and then the town is usually left with a gamestate more suited for finding scum. It works well. I obviously would prefer to be accurate, and I think that I am more accurate than not. I legit think my reads are more right than wrong right now. But push come to shove, my reads don'tneedto be accurate for me to still generate value for the town--and thus, I don't really have as much incentive as I used to, to do more in-depth posts that show the nuances.
That said, often, I don't need to. When I'm right, usually others can see where I'm coming from. When I'm wrong, others have reasons that are usually harder to overcome because they are right and I am wrong. My rightness is easier to follow; my wrongness is harder to follow.-
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Not true!In post 272, Frozen Angel wrote:she specifically said she has no idea what she is doing with her meta read on me
I know exactly what I am doing with you.
Your play is night and day different between your scumgames and towngames--that's a fact. Your townplay is nothing like your scumplay; your scumplay is nothing like your townplay. That is true.
These metas are very distinct and very obvious and very noticeable. That is true.
You are 100% playing to one of the two metas. You are absolutely in one of those two metas, not blurring it, not blending it, not hiding it, fitting that meta to a T. That is true.
All of this means I know exactly what I'm doing with my meta on you; I know all of the above is true.
The one and only area I falter in is knowing which meta is which.
You are either 100% town, or 100% scum, with absolutely no in-between. There's no room where your content is 75% towngame with 25% being scum, or 75% scumgame with 25% town. It is 100% fully and entirely in the established meta for the alignment you are. If you are scum then you are playing your scum meta to a T; if you are town, then you are playing your town meta to a T. Most players as town never have 100% of their towngame, and most players as scum never have 100% of your scumgame.
But you, whatever your alignment is, do have that 100%.
The one question is which alignment is which.
And I'm pretty sure this is the scumgame, from my memory.
That ain't me not knowing what I'm talking about. I know EXACTLY what I am talking about and it is guaranteed to be true. You're playing to an established meta, with zero divergence from said meta whatsoever. And the meta you are playing Ithinkis the scum one.-
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Good luck with that.-
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That I don't remember. I think she might, but this ain't the 100%, this is more like a 60%.In post 306, MMR wrote:I hope you don't mind but could you confirm if FA likes to distance as scum?
That said, multiball, so while we can safely say distancing is plausible, actualbussingis not.-
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In post 361, MathBlade wrote:FoS on Titus. Don’t see how she’s getting her reads.
Oh yeah MathBlade's lockscum here; he's literally voting/pushing the four towniest* slots in the game.In post 362, MathBlade wrote:FoS on StD
(*Admittedly one of them, me, requires knowledge of my alignment. I've not towned it up yet. But MathBlade is literally FoSing/voting three of the towniest slots in the game, with me as a fourth--I get that MathBlade can have bad towngames, but this is not an entrance MathBlade ever has as town.
There's a lot more, but tbh I wasn't planning on posting here today at all. In fact I explicitly was trying to take today as a rest day. But I couldn't let this go unsaid; MathBlade is 200% scum here. The above is a big reason but there's more reasons beyond that; I can explain those reasons when I actually feel like posting.)-
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Ehhh fuck it. I'll be around. I'm angry at things in real life but I needsomewhereto vent--may as well be a maf game, 'cause I ain't gonna get worse from it; the only way to go is up.
Btw having seen furtive effectively be scum in multiball (furtive was an SK), I can say that this is a very, very, very different look for him this game. Obviously, doesn't clear him since SKs have no scumbuddies, but I would expect if furtive were scum this game for there to be a similarity between his play that game and his play this game as still hunting for scum while playing for the longterm endgoal of endgaming town and scum alike.In post 319, furtiveglance wrote:I'm sorry for this. I think prof is town and there are some very bad votes on them.
I want to vote Dingle for their bandwagoning crimes
VOTE: Dingle Dangle Scarecrow
That he's radically different this game tells me he's probably town.
And Klick is town for the reads synergy.In post 323, Dingle Dangle Scarecrow wrote:This is a town take
Yes, multiball, but last time I said "Klick I want to call town but multiball", he was town so fuck it, committing to it: town.
This has a fairly good chance of being scum.In post 315, Radja wrote:I've been keeping up on my phone, but the amount of players and hydra heads in this game make it hard for me to get much reads really.
This is an incredibly shallow take and I feel like you know it is.In post 311, Bunnyonce wrote:I have never seenFAas scum. As town she's normally rather helpful and cooperative, and I believe that is how she's been so far.
This is an absolutely egregious--tictac doesn't believe this and youIn post 309, professotic wrote:VOTE: mastina
u r doing ur dead-thread thing using technically true statements to push nonsense.
i think this was the only lie in the post.In post 304, mastina wrote:The one and only area I falter in is knowing which meta is which.knowhe doesn't believe it. It's the type of point that comes from having predetermined a read to make and then create reasons for it.
It's faked as hell. It's not genuine in any way shape or form. It's flat. It lack conviction. You can tell he doesn't believe it--and for good reason. (I don't think I need to explain why tictac's point is ridiculous, but if youreallywant to, it's easy enough to do; no actual town player would seriously raise the point because of just how silly it is.)-
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Btw this is a sentence that never comes from MathBlade as town.
Like.
If you know MathBlade as a player.
You KNOW that MathBlade doesn't think this way as town in a way to generate a "lol really? This is ridiculous".
If I had the time/motivation I guarantee you I could deep dive this to show MathBlade doesn't do that post as town. MathBlade as town has an entirely different way of expressing his thoughts. He doesn't think this way as town. When he feels like he is being ignored, when he feels like he is being disrespected, when he feels like he is dealing with a town in the wrong, he can post something like "this is ridiculous". Where there's a frustration in him.
But when he has a scumread as town, he doesn't feel the need to go "lol really". Instead, he just pushes them. He sees them as scum, he pushes them as scum. He doesn't care what the player in question says.
Yet here, he did. The "lol really, this is ridiculous" spews him as scum, because MathBlade as scumdoesrespond to the pressure. MathBlade as scum knows that scumreads on him are legitimate. He can believe they come from scum in multiball, sure--but he knows that the suspicion on him is a threat.
I can summarize it this way.
MathBlade as town has conviction--with one player he is allegedly scumreading displaying a scumread on him, he isn't fazed by that.
MathBlade as scum sees threats--with a player scumreading him, he needs to work on neutralizing the threat.
The language used betrays this. He's not seeing me as scum that he needs to push;
He sees me as a threat that he needs to remove.
Thus.
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Respectfully, you're not me.In post 327, Past Present Future wrote:I really don’t understand what Mastina is talking about with this 100% thing wrt to FA. In Masochist Mafia, I wrongly lockscummed her slot because she had posted very similarly as scum in a previous game, so I don’t agree that FA has a 100% anything meta.
There's a difference between superficial similarities, and crucial similarities. FA has a way of displaying her alignment instantly as both alignments. You just need to know which is which.
And I'm pretty sure that this is FA's scum half.
If I had to guess at scumteams, my current guess would be {FA, professotic, MathBlade} | {Bunnyonce, Radja?, ???}.
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Btw to give an idea of how scum MathBlade is, even this first post is minor scum. It's admittedly only like 2%, 52-48, but ever soIn post 322, MathBlade wrote:Confirming my replace in. I am working so haven’t read.
Anywhere I should read on my break?slightly, this is a scum entrance from MathBlade.-
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This is another scum post from MathBlade--it's very much an idle thought, but one that is scum because of more or less, it does nothing and has no followthrough. MathBlade's town idle thoughts do things and/or have followthrough. This idle thought was self-evidently a pointless one, that couldn't lead to anything.In post 330, MathBlade wrote:I can’t but I don’t think anything is a wagon until it hits 3 people. Why are you focused on it?
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This is also crucial.In post 332, MathBlade wrote:Many I want to see if you think a) scum are in control or b) town are
This post is accurate to MathBlade's mindset. MathBlade's post here is true regardless of his alignment.
But the thing about that is.
MathBlade's posts since have betrayed that he is scum, because there is no frustration or worry at a crucial factor:In post 325, MegAzumarill wrote:professotic (5)Mastina, Bunnyonce, Yume, Enchant,Dingle Dangle Scarecrow[E-4]
Radja (3) T-Bone, Past Present Future, MMR
MMR (2) Frozen Angel, Maid Cafe
Enchant (1) Mathblade
Dingle Dangle Scarecrow (1)furtiveglance
T-Bone (1) Radical Rat
Mastina (1)professotic
Not Voting (3) Radja, Child of Fairies, Save the Dragons,In post 361, MathBlade wrote:FoS on Titus. Don’t see how she’s getting her reads.
Notice something?In post 362, MathBlade wrote:FoS on StD
There is NO wagon on ANYONE that MathBlade is suspicious of.
There is a major wagon on someone with 2/4 of MathBlade's scumreads.
PER MATHBLADE'S OWN STATEMENT, he as town should be believing that this is a scum-controlled gamestate.
PER MATHBLADE'S OWN STATEMENT, he should believe that he, as a new player, should be acting as a sort of town savior, to take town control of the game back.
PER MATHBLADE'S OWN STATEMENT, with his given views, he should be actively working with players to form a townbloc and fight back against the scum control.
But instead, his posts are doing nothing to work with others. He's not town here.-
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Crap I have a very important post about why I think there is at least one scumteam with 3 players and that they have TMI'd this to be the case and why I think that,
And I was gonna write it tonight,
But like: I am half an hour late for bed so I can't. (I'm somewhat miffed since I got a SURPRISE!!! double-shift today meaning I had to work an extra 5 hours. Guess which 5 hours I was planning to post in this game today during??? )
I DO think that at least one scumteam TMI'd there being a scumteam of 3 tho--in part because of the reactions to my post, and them thinking "oh mastina scumslipped she's one of the other scumteam".
Will explain what I mean tomorrow but I'm VERY confident in this because I know something the other scumteam doesn't. (Well, two things. One being that I am town.)
So I think they fucked themselves over, I just can't tell you why until tomorrow (assuming no bullshit happens to eat up tomorrow, too). Sleep needed now, I'm only gonna get 5.5 at most so like--if I were to write that post I'd only get at most 5. (It'd take half an hour minimum to write.) Literally genuinely can't.
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(Obviously quite angry about this btw since it genuinely means the entirety of today was lost to work. Woke up, was barely not late for work. Worked my normal work schedule. Then, BAM. Had to work a second shift of equal length to the first. Then the moment I got home, busy doing prep for tomorrow, and even hauling my ass trying to not be late, I am half an hour late. So I'm not exaggerating in having lost an ENTIRE day to work and I am quite miffed about it.)In post 602, mastina wrote:(I'm somewhat miffed since I got a SURPRISE!!! double-shift today meaning I had to work an extra 5 hours. Guess which 5 hours I was planning to post in this game today during??? )-
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(Basically I think we have guaranteed scum here--it's not a surefire thing for both teams to be teams of 3, but I am convinced there is at least one team of 3, and that team of 3 believed that I am on the other scumteam and by virtue of them being a team of 3, they assumed their mirror is also a team of 3, and assuming that, assumed that my mention of 6 scum was a scumslip of me being on the other team. Ironically in the process scumslipping themselves. Where they TMI'd in response to what they thought was TMI.)In post 602, mastina wrote:Crap I have a very important post about why I think there is at least one scumteam with 3 players and that they have TMI'd this to be the case and why I think that,
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In post 602, mastina wrote:I have a very important post about why I think there is at least one scumteam with 3 players and that they have TMI'd this to be the case and why I think that,
I DO think that at least one scumteam TMI'd there being a scumteam of 3 tho--in part because of the reactions to my post, and them thinking "oh mastina scumslipped she's one of the other scumteam".
Will explain what I mean tomorrow but I'm VERY confident in this because I know something the other scumteam doesn't. (Well, two things. One being that I am town.)
So I think they fucked themselves over.
There’s probably at least one scumteam of 3, which believes that I scumslipped.In post 604, mastina wrote:
(Basically I think we have guaranteed scum here--it's not a surefire thing for both teams to be teams of 3, but I am convinced there is at least one team of 3, and that team of 3 believed that I am on the other scumteam and by virtue of them being a team of 3, they assumed their mirror is also a team of 3, and assuming that, assumed that my mention of 6 scum was a scumslip of me being on the other team. Ironically in the process scumslipping themselves. Where they TMI'd in response to what they thought was TMI.)In post 602, mastina wrote:Crap I have a very important post about why I think there is at least one scumteam with 3 players and that they have TMI'd this to be the case and why I think that,
And I was gonna write it tonight,
Now, for the proof.
Okay, so basically:
These were my opening posts in the game.In post 19, mastina wrote:
(Okay but for real, I intend to be a BEACON this game, REVEALING the TRUE COLORS of all.)In post 18, mastina wrote:REJOICE! For your SAVIOR is--oh, wait, this is a cult game, I shouldn't open with that.
Hi I am a maso--oh, wait, this is a cult game, I shouldn't open with that.
Hi, I am town.
Read them, and think about them from the perspective of this being a game where:
We don't know if it's normal mafia multiball without extremely special flair,
We don't know if it's a cult game with usual cult mechanics,
And we don't know if it's somewhere between the two extremes.
We don't know if we start the game with only two scum (altho we can infer it's doubtful), we don't know if we start the game with eight scum (altho I laid out why I believe that's doubtful), we don't know that the scumteams are symmetrical, we don't know that the scumteams have the same mechanics, we don't know how many scum are on a team.
To be fair, unless the mod specifically gave them information about their opposing scumteam, the scum don't know if the scum have the same mechanics/size as each other. However, you get the idea. The town doesn't knowanythingabout the scum, other than that there are two different scumteams. That's it. That's what they know.
Okay, so given that:
The proof of what I'm saying is in my opening post:
My opening post implies that there’s cult recruitment. I roleplayed abandoning a claim of leading a cult, and roleplayed abandoning a cult-fakeclaiming-Mason claim.
If there were two scumteams of 1-2 each with a recruitment mechanic, they would view my post as a scumslip. (Or, heck, even if only one scumteam was that way.) My opening two posts can--very very easily--be read as me being cult. I am known for being an incredibly cheeky scumfuck. I am known for claiming mason as a cult leader. I am known for not bothering to hide that I am scum and being very open as to the how and the mechanics used, telling huge truths.
Including being the type to be cheeky enough to claim scum in my first post--I've done it before, multiple times. (I can show those scumteams if you want to see the examples yourselves, but yes, scumastina is known for that sort of thing.)
Alright, so let's break this down so far, to make sure you're following.
REMEMBER:
We don't know if it's normal mafia multiball without extremely special flair, a cult game with usual cult mechanics, or somewhere between the two extremes. We don't know how many scum start in the game, if the scumteams are symmetrical, or if the scum share the same mechanics.
My opening post was one that could be seen as either a deliberate cheeky scumfuck post,
Or even as an accidental scumslip.
"mastina slipped that this is a cult game where the scum have voting powers".
That is an argument that could have easily been made by players.
"mastina is being a cheeky scumfuck telling us that she's a cultist in her first post".
That is an argument that could have easily been made by players.
Nobody did, though. Nobody thought that my opening post was a scumslip. Nobody thought that my opening post was me being a cheeky scumfuck.
If there were a scumteam of 1-2 scum, why didn't they think I was their counterpart?
They might not want to say it's a scumslip per se, but they could still use it as a reason to push me. They could scumread me, they could press me, without revealing their TMI. If someone were on a scumteam of 1-2 and saw my opening post, they would think my opening post was TMI. And thinking that, they could use this to push me. Except nobody did. The first vote on me?This, which was
aftermy post 92, andafterthe first player calling attention to my 92.
Which suggests that there isn't actually two factions of 1-2.
If there was two factions of 1-2, they should've seen my. Yet they didn't.openingpost as the scumslip
So, what does that tell you?
That at least one faction has three, and precisely three, members.
And this faction genuinely believes that I TMI'd thanks to THEM having TMI.
Notably, proof of this is in MathBlade's replacement.
Notice something?In post 334, MathBlade wrote:
Not sure about this post. The OP says cult conversion is neither confirmed nor denied.In post 21, Enchant wrote:
Wdm cult gameIn post 18, mastina wrote:REJOICE! For your SAVIOR is--oh, wait, this is a cult game, I shouldn't open with that.
Hi I am a maso--oh, wait, this is a cult game, I shouldn't open with that.
Hi, I am town.
Cult is just flavor, it's not confirmed they can convert.
Has there been an explicit message somewhere I missed?
In this post, MathBlade sees me imply a 1-2 member cult mafia faction butdoesn't think it's suspicious.
Yet here, me stating ~6 scum, MathBlade sees as suspect.In post 354, MathBlade wrote:
This post by Mastina is suspicious.In post 92, mastina wrote:(Yes I am aware that's too few scum since the approximate amount should be 6, so I'm townreading slots I shouldn't be, but fornow, this'll do.)
It’s clear from the presenters here we don’t know if cult can recruit.
Yet somehow Mastina ends up on 6 because why?
VOTE: mastina
So the crux of the issue then becomes:
Why was the 3-man scumteam callout considered a scumslip, but the 1-2-man cult calloutconsidered a scumslip?not
If MathBlade were town, thenmy very first postshould have pinged him as a scumslip showing TMI of a 1-2-man cult.
If MathBlade were a member of a 1-2-man scumteam, he should have thought my opening post was a scumslip showing TMI of being his opposite.
But MathBlade didn't react to my first post being a cult game callout.
MathBlade only reacted to my post where I made the callout of athree-manscumteam.
And this is true of all the players who have gone on to suspect me.
Their pressure on me didn't begin untilafter144.
(Side-note, Bunnyonce might be scum, too, but if so is on theoppositeteam.)
So what does all of this mean?
That there is a scumteam with three members, who believed that my callout of there being six scum in the game was me as the opposite scumteam doing a TMI scumslip--when themselves ironically TMI'ing.
I still think that team is {MathBlade, professotic, Frozen Angel}, but obviously, I am behind and need to read the game.-
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(Btw just for reference, I believe a town-MathBladeIn post 334, MathBlade wrote:
Not sure about this post. The OP says cult conversion is neither confirmed nor denied.In post 21, Enchant wrote:
Wdm cult gameIn post 18, mastina wrote:REJOICE! For your SAVIOR is--oh, wait, this is a cult game, I shouldn't open with that.
Hi I am a maso--oh, wait, this is a cult game, I shouldn't open with that.
Hi, I am town.
Cult is just flavor, it's not confirmed they can convert.
Has there been an explicit message somewhere I missed?wouldtunnel in on this. That he didn't is evidence he isn't town.)-
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I already did, repeatedly.In post 338, Bunnyonce wrote:Maybe mastina would like to finally confirm for us if she thinks FA is in her scum or town meta?
My stance on FA I really don't get why y'all don't understand it, I'm being as clear as I can.
Frozen Angel has a night/day difference between her towngame and scumgame.
This is very damn strongly obvious. Her alignments could not be more distinct.
Iknowthe differences IN the meta. I can identify the differences between one meta and the other. Just by her entrance into this game, I could tell FA was playing to her standard play as her alignment.
As in, if this is FA as town it is 100% her towngame;
If this is FA as scum it is 100% her scumgame.
If I have seen her towngame recently, I would instantly be able to tell her alignment in every game--because her play in this game is 100% matching to her meta, just by remembering what her towngame is, I'd be able to tell if it were matching that or matching the opposite.
If I had seen her scumgame recently, would instantly be able to tell her alignment in every game--because her play in this game is 100% matching to her meta, just by remembering what her scumgame is, I'd be able to tell if it were matching that or matching the opposite.
FA's metas are distinct enough that I can instantly tell when she is playing to one of them.
But my memory is rusted enough that it's not 100% on which is which.
I am like 90% sure that this is the scum meta.
But I am 100% sure that she is playing 100% to the typical meta for her current alignment.
If I had seen FA more recently, I'd be able to make the 90% into a 100% and that would make me 100% sure on her 100% playing 100% to that alignment.
But the 90% on a 100% is still pretty damn high.
The only thing that keeps it from being the most lockread of lockread is being rusty on FA gameplay.
Her alignment is transparently obvious if you've played with her recently. It is 100% her Xgame, where X = her alignment this game. If you've seen her play, and if you know about the night/day difference, then you should be able to tell what X equals, and therefore have a 100% guaranteed accuracy on FA.
I just haven't played with her recently--thus, I need to look it up.
When I actually do my research and refresh my memory on which meta is which, I will know FA's alignment 100% because she is 100% playing to her meta for her current alignment and I know the differences between her two metas.
OH I JUST FIGURED OUT A MUCH SIMPLER WAY TO EXPLAIN ALL OF THIS.
Imagine that we're talking about Creature.
Say you know that Creature posts a shitload as one alignment, and hardcore lurks as the other.
You see this trait present in the current game, where he is either posting a shitload, or he is hardcore lurking. Not an in-between. 100% posting a shitload, or 100% hardcore lurking.
You know that this stark contrast is alignment-indicative for Creature.
But you don't remember which is which.
You'reprettysure that the hardcore lurking meta is the scum one. So, say this is a game where Creature is hardcore lurking. You are thusprettysure that Creature is scum. You KNOW that he has a night/day difference between the town/scum metas, you can SEE the difference in live time by seeing that he is hardcore lurking and know that hardcore lurking is either the brightest of bright days or the darkest of dark nights in being a huge alignment indicators.
But you're rusty on Creature and can't FOR SURE remember it, in spite of being pretty sure it's the scum meta.
...Does that make sense?
That's my read on FA.
I amprettysure that this meta is FA's scum one. So I amprettysure that FA is scum. I KNOW she has a night/day difference between the town/scum metas, can SEE the difference in live time. But I'm rusty on FA and can't FOR SURE remember it, in spite of being pretty sure it's the scum meta.-
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Well STD is easy. He is too casual to be mafia. And until he basically left the game because he felt he was being too serious, he was quite active, too.
STD as scum is more serious and more lurkey. (Note that STD flaking out is not lurkey, it is him having a bad reaction to the game--that, given the way it happened, I feel was extra town, because STD was being casual and it happened. If STD were scum, then he would just ease up, back off, knowing he did too much. But STD as town alreadywasin his perspective being fairly lax/loose/laid back, so IN THE STATE HE SEES AS laid back, feeling he went too far = he just...leaves. Which hard-spews him as town.)
FA it's more about her opening posts and focus and what she's spending time doing and what her priority was. One meta is more serious, the other more casual. Ithinkthat the serious meta is the scum meta and this was the serious meta, thus scum.
Now!
These are not full explanations, mind you!
If you think this is a full explanation of the meta on STD or FA, fuck no, there's a lot more--but respectfully, this early into the game, I don't want to give out too many details. Explaining your tells midgame generally is a fine way to invalidate them.
So like. I'm keeping it deliberately vague/unspecific because I don't want to give them a guide into fooling folks in the future. I quitelikebeing able to see them as their true alignments.-
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Outside of STD and FA tho:
This is the towngame of all three heads of PPF but in particular Nancy. Nancy is one of the easiest players to read onsite and every player having the slot remotely suspicious that has played with her is automatically suspect for not calling her the townie she is. But even Auro and Titus are showing themselves to be town. I shouldn't need to explain the Nancy meta but I can go into the Auro/Titus ones if needed, it's just that it'd be a lot of time/effort for something I don't see as important to lay out. The Nancy meta is enough. I'm not the only player to have played with Nancy here and not every player who knows her play will be scum so like. All it really takes is ~2-4 players verifying she's town and you can know she is in fact town.In post 264, mastina wrote:LOCKTOWN:
{Past Present Future, Save The Dragons} (most locktown of locktown)
TOWN:
{Yume, Radical Rat, Dingle Dangle Scarecrow}
{Maid Cafe, MMR}
TOWNLEAN:
{furtiveglance}
{Enchant}
{T-Bone}
{Child of Fairies}
{Radja}
{Bunnyonce}
SCUM:
{Frozen Angel}
{professotic}
{Korina/MathBlade}
Yume, I feel like in this game her content was closer to her town self. Her early interactions seemed to be laying the groundwork for her townplay. It's another read I don't want to explain, but can show. Yume adapts her meta when tells are pointed out, so I want to avoid pointing out the tells I am using to call her town. But it's basically what she was doing, when she was doing it.
Dingle Dangle Scarecrow has Klick in it, and this is not the first time I have seen Klick as town in a multiball game. He isexactlythe same player he was in Multiball2, so that's why he's town this game.
Maid Cafe is not a meta read but play read. Mostly, the same for MMR, too.LooselyI would say that MMR's play looks like each head in a towngame but obviously, not easy.
furtiveglance, I explained already--this doesn't look like his play in Datisi's Cafe. In Datisi's cafe, he was effectively scum in a multiball game, in a way incredibly comparable to this game. Him being vastly different from that game is promising for it being him as town.
Rest of reads aren't meta except tictac and MathBlade. (Well I guess I think Greeting's play is loosely Greeting's scum meta, but like: not enough to call it an actual meta read.)
tictac I don't feel like explaining; MathBlade I am continuously explaining by laying out the way he thinks as town and why his thoughts this game are vastly different from the way he would think as town.-
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So does Yume, that doesn't mean you can't get a read on Yume based on her time in the game, including her first post.In post 355, MathBlade wrote:
Seconded. Korina tends to flake as both alignments.In post 106, Radical Rat wrote:Mastina, where's the Korina read coming from? They've done literally nothing and are getting replaced, so I don't see how they can be anything but null
Same concept for Korina. Korina can flake as either alignment--but Korina's singular post was still a scum entrance.This post has absolutely zero rvs vibes to it and yet absolutely zero content to it.
Korina said "will read later"--in other words, the Enchant vote is not based on any content in the game so far.
Yet Korina's vote on Enchant was blank. Empty. Reasonless.
There was no flair to it.
There was no reasoning given. There was no statement behind the Enchant vote. No joke. Nothing. Just a naked Enchant vote--that by Korina's "will read later", was not off of anything Korina had read. Korina gave no context behind the Enchant vote. Korina gave no justification for it. If Korina had read the game, then an Enchant vote could make sense. If Korina gave a reason for voting Enchant then it would make sense as an RVS.
But a naked vote that implies reading, while having stated you haven't read, is a scum post.-
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By the way: this is MathBlade doing the "projecting the reason for the scumread he THINKS they have" thing.In post 365, MathBlade wrote:Lol really?
Like this is ridiculous.
Mastina I think scum slipped hard with the 6.
Which is a signature of his scumgame.
As per usual, he got it wrong.
As a matter of fact, yes! I DO think that MathBlade scumslipped hard with his mention of the 6.
But you know where I said that?MathBlade thought that I was saying he was scum for thinking 6 scum. While I DO, it wasn't until 602 that I did.
So why was it that MathBlade assumed it way way way back in 365? Let's quote 364.
MathBlade's 365 was in direct response to 364.In post 364, mastina wrote:In post 361, MathBlade wrote:FoS on Titus. Don’t see how she’s getting her reads.
Oh yeah MathBlade's lockscum here; he's literally voting/pushing the four towniest* slots in the game.In post 362, MathBlade wrote:FoS on StD
(*Admittedly one of them, me, requires knowledge of my alignment. I've not towned it up yet. But MathBlade is literally FoSing/voting three of the towniest slots in the game, with me as a fourth--I get that MathBlade can have bad towngames, but this is not an entrance MathBlade ever has as town.
There's a lot more, but tbh I wasn't planning on posting here today at all. In fact I explicitly was trying to take today as a rest day. But I couldn't let this go unsaid; MathBlade is 200% scum here. The above is a big reason but there's more reasons beyond that; I can explain those reasons when I actually feel like posting.)
So tell me:
What in my 364 made MathBlade think that my scumread on him came from mentioning the 6 scum?
Ididdevelop a stronger scumread on MathBlade for that--250 posts later.
But nothing in 364 evenremotelyhints on it. I genuinely didn't even have the THOUGHT until Yesterday at ~4 PM.I developed the scumslip of 6 scum theory on Sunday, at 4 PM pacific. (I have it in my diary/journal to myself. Obviously, no screenshots since said diary is personal, but like. I was at work. I had a flash of inspiration while I was guarding at 3:45 or so. So at 4, I wrote it down to make sure I didn't forget.)
So HOW did MathBlade think I had that theory when it wasn't until afull 24 hours laterthat I developed it???
MathBlade thought I was scumreading him for 6 scum, a full 24 hours before I developed the 6 scum tmi scumslip theory.
From a post that was self-explanatory in why I was scumreading him.
I said that MathBlade was scum for scumreading the four towniest slots in the game--how, from a post saying MB is scum for scumreading the 4 towniest slots in the game, did MB get "mastina is scumreading me for 6 scum theory" from a post that had nothing of the sort?
It's MathBlade projecting because he knows the scumslip he made.-
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Sure, in of itself, MathBlade can have a towngame that atrocious. Scumreading four of the towniest slots in the game isn't impossible.In post 372, MMR wrote:I liked most of mastina's reads but I 100% disagree on her read on Math.
He could be wrong in his reads but I don't think that it makes him scum.
But it's also who the names are in question.
And MathBlade's experience with the players.
And then on top of that, the reasons for the reads.
And how he is pushing them.
The reads themselves are not in of themselves damning. If you want to have basic respect for MathBlade's competency as a town player, you should be at beingthatoff-base and THAT wrong and THAT out-of-touch. But admittedly, it's not impossible; MathBlade has bad towngames.
The reasons used, the players the reads are on, and his experience with them? All of those make it alotmore damning.
There is also the gamestate in question. MathBlade's suspicion on those players is strategic. It is his attempt to give scum a way back into the game.
Literally everything MathBlade is doing is scum this game, and I mean it. Everything. He is not remotely his town self. None of his towntells are present.-
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Sure, but this is you doing that as scum under the belief you would do it as town--but the way you did it betrayed being scum.In post 365, MathBlade wrote:It’s well known that I tend to disagree with popular opinion at times no matter my alignment.-
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Btw I'm like 90% sure MathBlade uses the phrase "flail harder" disproportionately as scum.In post 375, MathBlade wrote:Flail harder
Hehasused it as town--but I'm pretty sure it's a scumtell.
In the sense of an actual tell.
A tell that is not 100%. It's not like every usage of "flail harder" from MathBlade is gonna be scum.
But I'd wager that it's well above 50.
In the ~75% (give or take 10%) range.
Where ~75% of the time it's MB as scum and only ~25% as town.
So, a tell that indicates MathBlade as scum but doesn't outright confirm he is.
Given the mountain of evidence against him tho, it certainly seems to be the 75%!-
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Btw I stand by this solve, so far.In post 376, mastina wrote:If I had to guess at scumteams, my current guess would be {FA, professotic, MathBlade} | {Bunnyonce, Radja?, ???}.
But obviously not final.
I'm not gonna be able to get caught up tonight. (If I'm not in bed an hour from now I'm late, and at the rate I'm going I ain't getting to page 30.)
But so far, everything points to the {FA, professotic, MathBlade} scumteam, and I think Bunnyonce is scum but Bunnyonce individually has anti-partner tells with literally all three of FA/professotic/MB, so Bunnyonce looks like scum but can't be scum with those three. (And yes those three all match as scum with each other.)-
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The numbers I used are estimations, never precise percentages. I use percentage numbers to give a visual descriptor to people. 'ever so slightly' is considered vague, '52%' quantifies it. The 52% is not actually a real quantity, but it is useful shorthand to give a number that helps people understand what 'ever so slightly' is meant to be.In post 381, MathBlade wrote:
Did you bother to calculate the standard deviation Mastina?In post 379, mastina wrote:
Btw to give an idea of how scum MathBlade is, even this first post is minor scum. It's admittedly only like 2%, 52-48, but ever soIn post 322, MathBlade wrote:Confirming my replace in. I am working so haven’t read.
Anywhere I should read on my break?slightly, this is a scum entrance from MathBlade.
In this case specifically, the replacement is ever so slightly scum because it looks like scum that has to catch up in two different topics, rather than just one. It feels like scum that needs time to adjust. The wording used is important. It looks like a post specifically meant to appease the town, rather than a genuine request. It looks like a post that is made to not look suspicious. Rather than a post actually gathering info.
It's only slightly, because obviously, you make similar posts as both alignments when replacing in.
But, the 2% is notable--2% on its own might not be enough.
2% on top of the myriad of other reasons?
THAT, on the other hand......-
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This is basically a scumfession from MathBlade--In post 385, MathBlade wrote:Yay welcome to people who claim to read me yet almost no one on MS can.
What’s new?
If he thought I was scum, then he wouldn't think I was reading him wrong, now, would he?
If I were scum, then my read on him would be a scum agenda.
So him saying this is basically him saying I am town.-
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I might not have townned it up pre-Saturday, I'd be the first to admit that.In post 389, MathBlade wrote:Mastina is proving herself scum here.
But from Saturday onward there is zero universe where anyone who's played with me can genuinely think I'm scum.-
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Oh I did. It's the word pattern that makes it a tell.In post 392, MathBlade wrote:If you did an actual analysis versus computation you’d have noticed a common word pattern.
It's annoyingly hard toexplain, because how do I explain one word pattern being town versus one pattern being scum? I don't know how.
But I did that work and this is your scum patterns.-
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She sure does!In post 402, MathBlade wrote: She has an emotional “tell” to me. That’s not the right phrasing but I can’t think of better.
She's displayed it already.
And I am pretty sure she showed the scum version of it.-
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Hmm.In post 413, Radical Rat wrote:I'm still here, still haven't properly read. My less-busy section of week is approaching and I'll do a proper reading then, pinky swear.
For now though, rough instinct says MathBlade Town.In post 80, Radical Rat wrote:VOTE: professotic
I can't really quantify it, but it feels like they're playing looking for someone to kill rather than looking for scum. Just the way they're engaging feels... Wrong.
Oh I think I found the third scum on the Bunnyone scumteam!In post 106, Radical Rat wrote:Mastina, where's the Korina read coming from? They've done literally nothing and are getting replaced, so I don't see how they can be anything but null
I actually think I'm more sure on RR being scum than on Radja, tbh.
Radical Rat isn't scum with any of FA/professotic/MathBlade but I think he's scum now.
(I don't remember why I had him as town but looking at this post, it just ~clicked~.)
So that's:
SCUM TEAM ONE: {FA, professotic, MathBlade}
SCUM TEAM TWO: {Bunnyonce, Radical Rat, ?Radja?}.-
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Btw if you want more proof Math's scum here, remember who Math pushed as scum?In post 423, MathBlade wrote:
Don’t worry. I don’t think I will be yeeted this game.In post 422, Past Present Future wrote:
So you and Ircher think Math’s town and Roden is the one who’s sr him. Got it.In post 419, MMR wrote:Actually, no.
I reread our Hydra Chat and I was right beforehand.
My memory's bad.
-Rubella
I haven’t heard any self-pitying posts about popularly yet, so I’ll take that as good sign for now. No offence @Math but if you ever do that I’ll yeet you into next week.
eta: just saw MMR’s most recent post, Ircher hasn’t expressed a read.
@Math it’s fine. <3
Call it a good hunch.
I think today goes (barring wild swings) professor wagon dies or maybe not but I won’t join it.
I give professor wagon a 75% chance of collapse here as it seems like a remnant of RVS.
Then we see if theory of scumfluence is right.
How MathBlade was calling Titus scum?
Titus is a part of PPF.
Does this look like a post where town is talking to a slot they scumread?
Sure doesn't look like it to me!
MathBlade knows that Past Present Future are town--which makes you wonder why he called them scum in the first place.
Almost like...he had an agenda.
A scum one.-
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Oh you have a fairly good odds of being right on RR but PPF and I are both 100% town and this was not a post made actually expecting there to be a scum within. You thought it was three town so if there's scum in there it's purely coincidental tbh.In post 459, professotic wrote:Let me say this much.
PPF, Mastina and Radical are NEVER all town.
They contain at minimum 1 wolf, I don’t directly think all 3 are wolves but 2 is decently probable.-
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This is also a bullshit read btw since it doesn't carry through to other slots.In post 464, professotic wrote:Plus they way Klick voted us didn’t feel opportunistic.
Felt like a genuine Townie that was concerned on our slot.
Oh thanks for that, that gives me the info to call
bothhalves of you scum rather than just the tictac half since this is not TSE's towngame!-
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MathBlade's is--his entrance has been designed from the getgo to try and look town and recover the bad position his scumteam is in.In post 480, Maid Cafe wrote:Not in a wolfy way but more they're too prideful to step back from it and it's hard to tell if that's wolf motivated or not as I drum my fingers on the table.
He would sure LIKE for you to write the fight off as TvT.
He would sure LIKE for you to call it an ego battle.
But it's not.
He IS scum here, period.