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I lied,In post 44, The Bombay wrote:
This feels like you misunderstood. My point was that the mafia would beIn post 40, Flavia wrote:
But mafia can't collaborate with the 3rd party in this game. Everybody losses. So,In post 37, The Bombay wrote:
I am kind of thinking that StarPower appearing to not know that there is a 3rd party makes them more likely to be town.In post 10, Kokabiel wrote:
JUST the delegation?In post 7, Star Power wrote:Hello everyone! I am here, ready to be a shining light against the delegation!
VOTE: DeasVail
Seriously doubt that the actual 3rd party would not be too self-conscious to frame it that way, so imo town>scum>3rd partymakes sense mafia would be as interested in this 3rd party as the town.Or not that interested yet as the game just started.morecognizant of the existence of the 3rd party, while StarPower's post reads like someone who was not thinking about the existence of a 3rd party.
Therefore, town being the most likely alignment to make such a post.
Not the basis for a strong read, but as far as page 1 posts go, it is nice to have an inkling on someone
~LukenowI'm gonna start reading. Liking this read from Luke, it has some depth and it's about what I expect for an early read from him.-
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The scumminess in this post's tone is out of this world lmao. This is how you scum post when you want to appear like you don't care about getting scum read, the confidence is just too misplaced.In post 85, Kokabiel wrote:Awww how cute~
This, on the other hand, is NOT cute at all. I fail to see how calling acquaintances to join a... RVS? vote is town behavior.
I doubt scum would blatantly call their buddies like this so thats one association down.
Yuck. Can totes see this as a scum theater.In post 82, The Bombay wrote:
can you vote kokabiel?In post 80, DeasVail wrote: Why didn’t you ask me?
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Ok Johnny is town lol.In post 90, JohnnyFarrar wrote:
Huh? What do you know that I dontIn post 89, Kokabiel wrote:scum don't need to pretend to be scumhunting this game-
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Nice both heads are townie, I feel good about town locking this slot.In post 168, The Bombay wrote:
I do agree with you that it felt weird when deasnails invited himself to your wagon like that, it felt like he was a pick me and just wanted to be on my side lol, but I didn't really pay that much attention at the time since I was more focused on you.In post 89, Kokabiel wrote:The difference is that Marci invited you, whereas Dease invited himself. Marci can invite anyone, so how would that make it SvS?
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The vote itself isn't bad, it's the fact that she is calling other people to join it. Pushing someone without any reason is dumb and anti-town.In post 128, Passenger wrote:
Why do you think it’s scum behavior?In post 85, Kokabiel wrote:This, on the other hand, is NOT cute at all. I fail to see how calling acquaintances to join a... RVS? vote is town behavior
While anti-town doesn't necessarily mean scum, it's the best thing i have right now and getting rid of people like this in absence of better alternatives is a great move.
I decided to scumread this instead of seeing it as bad town because i doubt she would make such a blunder as town.
pUsHiNg sOMeOnE wItHoUt aNy rEaSOn iS dUmB aNd aNtI-tOwN
first off, I did have a reason although it wasn't super solid. not sharing ≠ no reason. if you really cared enough you could've asked... instead you jumped to defensive lol
second, who are you? "i doubt she would make such a blunder as town." is a personal statement that implies you know a bit about me and how i play.... but thing is i've literally done this before so what bullshit tree are you trying to plant?
i'm willing to back down, but you aren't really showing me any reason at all as to why you could be town right now. Right now how I view you is kinda survivalistic.. like in the way I think 3p would be. It looks like you're just trying to shutmeup since it seems like you scumread only me and not luke. The fact that your only real reads are on people who've voted you isn't a good look. I think you overreacted for the amount of votes youdidget.
This reads snarky for...no reason..? I haven't even posted all day while being at work.. It did give me a moment of doubt ngl, but give me something to actually tr you on, anyone can do this as any alignment.In post 145, Kokabiel wrote:
Marci please enlighten me with the amazing reads you got from pages 1-3. Luke has been doing all the lifting for you so far and i can't say i'm impressed even as a joke.In post 138, The Bombay wrote:S
Marci said she wanted to vote Koka because her iso was "beyond useless"
Maybe you should think about giving reads first before asking for them.
Originally I was going to vote for Flavia instead of you actually, but I thought more about it and decided it was more just playstyle differences.
Originally I didn't like froggie (for 11) but after thinking about it and talking to luke I've decided to wait a bit on that before deciding. Though is still not best vibes IMO
Bells alright so far. Penguinpowers prob alright? I like Passenger the most.
^ These don't limit only to the first few pages, though looking at it reminds me of it.
Luke is right, it just seems like you aren't trying to get a better understanding of anything.
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Lmao, I thought your meta was that you're funny when you're scum.In post 290, furtiveglance wrote:My insanely good scum strategy is to waste all my posts with posts like this^ and then flake from the game.
Oops wrong thread
Must be the power of the Miller role.-
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I just agree with Bombay's read on Bell. It's enough for a Day 1 pass at least, though I'll touch back on this more if his activity nose dives Day 2 onward.In post 346, furtiveglance wrote:
How is Bell townIn post 345, Roden wrote:Off the cuff reads in no particular order:
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Bell
Bombay
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DIDN'T REALIZE THEY WERE IN THIS GAME
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This. I think the attention to detail is +town, whereas I think scum is more likely to see a Miller claim and just groan and move on.In post 207, The Bombay wrote:
I kinda hip shot you town based off of your interaction with Furtive. It was a combo of the tone feeling right, your conclusions on furtive being identical to my own, and you also immediately spot checking the flavor to match it with the claim.In post 200, Bell wrote:Not sure if Luke is being too generous here with me.
Have not really circled back to looking at you since then.
I can pretend to scum read you though it you want-
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Let's call it the ouroboros effect.In post 352, Bell wrote:There needs to be a word for reciprocative town reads.
Roden feels town so far.-
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Why did you claim? You only had one vote on you. And currently you only have three, yet you're making threats based off of your potential elimination.In post 373, Kokabiel wrote:In post 262, PenguinPower wrote:it be scumIn post 271, PenguinPower wrote:
like - with any seasoning or sauce, or just plain socks?In post 270, Frogsterking wrote:I'll eat my socks.
Remember this slip after i flip.In post 285, PenguinPower wrote:
What's a "moonlight dancer?"In post 284, Kokabiel wrote:It's a Moonlight dancer with an additional on-death trigger, and no it's sadly not a vengeful.
I claimed and gave out my reads so there is no info you can get from me apart from the flip. So y'all useless lazy town without any reads better start working. 4 Days remaining, you can always come back to finish the job.-
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How did you activate your ability?In post 384, Kokabiel wrote:
I figured i'm going to die today anyway, so i hastened the process of the wagon as to not waste time and gave out all my info.In post 383, furtiveglance wrote:Kokabiel, why did you use your ability? Did you just think might as well? You said you claimed so that there's no info we get after the flip. Are you sticking to this? I don't get the motivation.
I hoped at least a few people would start analyzing other stuff, but they instead still come at me while ignoring majority of other stuff.
Am i missing some logic here? I'm going to die anyway so why do people feel the need to affirm that i'm scummy over and over again while not doing anything else; I just don't get it.
From my pow pushing me makes sense for scum to look like they are doing something while actually not contributing; But majority is doing it and they can't all be scum.
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On it.In post 399, Frogsterking wrote:Skim my posts-
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Who do you want to eliminate today?In post 392, Kokabiel wrote:
I pm the mod "Represent Residents" and the mod confirms my role in the main thread.In post 389, The Bombay wrote:Koka, how does your flavor of advocate get to q moonlight dancer?
Like, in my mind an "advocate" is [someone] who is doing things for [someone or something else].
How is that getting to "you can have your own pr name revealed?"
It makes sense since an advocate is "a person who publicly supports or recommends a particular cause or policy." according to wiki-
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I figured it was something based on play, not VCA.In post 423, furtiveglance wrote:
The Passenger wagon is composed of 3 town, whereas Bell and PenguinPower are both potential scum on KokabielIn post 420, Roden wrote:Why would Koka be cleared from a red Passenger flip?
What changed with your reads?
In post 224, furtiveglance wrote:Town (most to least): The Bombay, Frogsterking, Passenger, DeasVail, JohnnyFarrar, Herta, Flavia, PenguinPower
Therefore a POE of 5:
Andres - done nothing really
Bell - feels a bit sus like I said earlier
Kokabiel - I don't really like 218, seems to have scum mindset on the brain talking about me 'pocketing' The Bombay and then goes and says 'I really like Passenger because he is always engaging and is thinking about stuff from multiple angles' but yeah hmm
NYM - done nothing, don't like the vote on Flavia which was unexplained. I think Flavia seems quite natural so far.
Star Power - done nothing. I don't really think their opening was scummy but just lack of posting so in the poe.-
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Telling you to share oxygen with the rest of the player list instead of hoarding it all for yourself isn't really shade.
I want Koka to go through because I scum read them. Passenger is fine too, I just scum read Koka more.
Considering I've been in the game for less then 24 hours, I think my ISO is pretty good.
Your turn.
PE: You really shouldn't waste your posts just to puff out your chest like that.-
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Thanks, it's the neurodivergency.In post 431, Frogsterking wrote:You're very smart but a terrible actor.-
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Uh huh.In post 436, Frogsterking wrote:I have demonstated a very high level of ability to read Roden correctly in Elected Decisions, Lost, and CK9++. This game, Roden replaced into a scum slot who star-flaked out and I will accordingly be emergency-updating my readslist tonightbeforeI claim tomorrow in my wallpost.
Roden is very prone to freezing as scum and if you are curious where Roden disappeared to just now while I was questioning him, for your entertainment I have copy+pasted Roden's scum chat here from Elected Decisions when I caught him on page 1:
Frog is annoying, he's legit just lying
Gotta do my best not to give out "caught for the wrong reason" vibes
If the players on the Kookaburra wagon could pull their heads out of their ass for two seconds and vote Passenger, that would be lovely.I know this'll just pass because Frog literally makes no sense and no one's just gonna agree to quick hammering 24 hours into the game for no reason
But wow
Anyway, once Koka is done flaking and answers my question, there's something I'd like to do. So please don't rush the vote before then.-
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That's because I don't and literally never said I did.In post 448, N.Y. M wrote:The interactions between Frogs and Roden look exactly like their interactions in Elected Decisions. Passenger coulf be scum buy Roden feels really scummy to me.
Even Mastina has come around to Frogs’ town, so no I don’t seriously believe you genuinely think Frogs is scum here
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First thing everyone should know: my role isn't called Advocate or Moonlight Dancer. My ability is called Advocate, but my role is actually calledProponent. Koka has already botched their role claim as far as flavor goes. I'm fairly certain Koka isn't claiming their real role name because it would sound scummy and didn't think anyone else was also an Advocate. Though Koka did say the correct trigger phrase "Represent Residents", as that was mine as well.
Besides that, the secondary effect from my ability let's me send a message to my target mod-confirming me as town. I'd like for this player to announce this, please.-
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This also reads as having got a scum PM because my role flavor actually explains why I'm an Advocate. It makes more sense to refer to that than looking up a definition on wikipedia.In post 392, Kokabiel wrote:
I pm the mod "Represent Residents" and the mod confirms my role in the main thread.In post 389, The Bombay wrote:Koka, how does your flavor of advocate get to q moonlight dancer?
Like, in my mind an "advocate" is [someone] who is doing things for [someone or something else].
How is that getting to "you can have your own pr name revealed?"
It makes sense since an advocate is "a person who publicly supports or recommends a particular cause or policy." according to wiki-
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I guess Flavia is just trying to run out the clock at this point.
I sent it to Frog, for a few reasons. Sending it to my biggest detractor forces him to have to accept he was wrong, if he's town. That part's important, because Koka already stated that when an Advocate reveals themself, that it gives information to the Government.
Besides the player I target, the Government also learns that I'm town. And I asked the mod if the Government is explicitly told that they learn information from Advocate reveals, which the mod answered no and that they're just told that they have received "privileged information". I initially hoped to bait the Government into accidentally revealing themself, but Koka already outed that info, so they "know" not to announce the Friendly Neighbor message. Unfortunately for them, they didn't know I do actually choose a target as well.
So two players should know that I'm town, one of which is confirmed not to be the Government. But Frog didn't claim it, though he never denied it either and instead spammed posts to hit the post cap so that he could have an excuse to stop talking. If Frog is the Government, he would think I was trying to bait him into revealing himself, not realizing that my role didn't work the exact same as Koka's. In that case, no one is claiming to have received info from the mod because my target and the Government are the same player.
As of right now, if he continues to deny receiving info from the mod, then he's either the Government or a game-throwing townie who's refusing to admit he's wrong. If he does claim it now, then I think it's between him and Flavia, who appears to look like frozen scum who's trying to wait out the EoD so that she doesn't have to confirm or deny receiving info.-
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Also I have a theory that Koka's role also reveals their alignment to the Government. However, I think that there's a good chance they're actually a Traitor, and that their Advocate reveal also tells the main scum team that they're a Traitor. Which is why I asked Nancy what kind of roles could possibly want to get eliminated; if Koka is a Traitor, they might be trying to look scummy in order to sacrifice themself for a scum buddy who got run up AKA Passenger.-
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Fairly certain that Frog is the Government though because this post literally can't be true.In post 587, Frogsterking wrote:
I already claimed it earlier before Roden claimed. I assumed it was referring to an investigative, but I was jumping to conclusions, I doublechecked my role PM just now because I was getting suspicious, and below is the exact wording:In post 494, Frogsterking wrote:I decided only to partially claim my role today:
#1 I'm informed that at least one player has a role which gets misleading results.
At least one player has a role whoIn post 576, Frogsterking wrote:
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^In post 574, Frogsterking wrote:MY ROLE IS INFORMED FYI IN CASE ANYONE MISSED ME CLAIM IT:
INFORMED: AT LEAST ONE ROLE PROVIDES A MISLEADING RESULT
I WONDER IF THAT HAS ANYTHING TO DO WITH HOW RODEN'S ROLE WORKS...a misleasing result. I wonder what kind of mod given information Roden may havePROVIDESto someone with hisPROVIDEDvia aROLE. I wonder if Roden has aPRIVATE MESSAGEwith the ability toSCUM PRas you now knowMISLEADTHERE IS AT LEAST ONE ROLE IN THIS GAME WHICH PROVIDES MISLEADING RESULTS
1) This set up is confirmed to not be bastard. Misleading results are considered bastard, especially mod-confirmed results.
2) Friendly Neighbor isn't a result, it's mod-confirmed info.
3) Frog claims to be using the exact wording of his role. It is explicitly against the rules to use exact wording from your role PM, yet the mod hasn't intervened.-
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Absolutely baffled that I'm receiving votes right now. Did y'all forget that Koka flubbed their role claim? Did y'all not notice that Frog accused me of trying to dismantle the Passenger wagon before proceeding to dismantle the wagon himself? Or that he's accusing me of trying to sacrifice myself for Passenger when I just accused Koka of doing exactly that??-
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Why do people keep telling me scum have no motivation to lieIn post 704, furtiveglance wrote:
Did you see my question about scum!Frog's motivation to lie? Surely they could just confirm you and Passenger would get votedIn post 703, Roden wrote:If anyone actually believes I publicly telegraph saving scum buddy Passenger in order to auto lose by Day 3 for literally no reason, I'm kind of at a loss for words
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Koka did claim that though? They literally claimed to send info to both the Government and scum team.In post 705, N.Y. M wrote:
I suppose that’s possible. In Pokemon Battles, I was informed of a gf being in the setup.In post 698, Frogsterking wrote:I just want to clarify:
Mod has confirmed my claim isn't bastard and therefore is in compliance with the setup.
As far as we know, there is no reason to believe that Roden has the role which provides misleading results, because Roden lied about the ability to mod confirm himself via private message. We currently don't know what effect the activation of Roden's ability actually had, though I think we can expect it doesn't require Roden to be alive once it's activated, or he wouldn't have locked himself into a 1v1 claim with me.
For all we know, Herta's theory about my role referring to furtive-who claimed miller-is correct. In fact that's currently my top guess for what my role was referring to.
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In post 699, Roden wrote:Absolutely baffled that I'm receiving votes right now. Did y'all forget that Koka flubbed their role claim? Did y'all not notice that Frog accused me of trying to dismantle the Passenger wagon before proceeding to dismantle the wagon himself? Or that he's accusing me of trying to sacrifice myself for Passenger when I just accused Koka of doing exactly that??
One of you or Frogs obviously has to be lying about the message thing. Koka didn’t claim to send anyone an unconfirmed message.In post 702, Roden wrote:Don't really know how misleading information is somehow not considered bastard but I can't exactly fight the mod on that.
I also really hated this question when you know exactly what I asked, so why even post that?In post 694, Roden wrote:Nancy did you really just unironically ask why scum would lie about a role interaction that would confirm them as scum
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Yes.In post 709, furtiveglance wrote:
You literally said that Frog confirming you would out him as scum, in post 694. Or did I misinterpret that one?In post 707, Roden wrote:
Why do people keep telling me scum have no motivation to lieIn post 704, furtiveglance wrote:
Did you see my question about scum!Frog's motivation to lie? Surely they could just confirm you and Passenger would get votedIn post 703, Roden wrote:If anyone actually believes I publicly telegraph saving scum buddy Passenger in order to auto lose by Day 3 for literally no reason, I'm kind of at a loss for words
Fucking bonkers
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Which is why he's LYING.-
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Because Koka already set the precedent that "Advocate reveal = Government gets info", which they then confirmed in a post later on.In post 712, furtiveglance wrote:
Consider this scenario though: Frogsterking confirms you, remains a relative UTR, and attention turns back to Passenger, Flavia, Kokabiel etc. How does this out Frog as scum, to you or anyone?In post 710, Roden wrote:
Yes.In post 709, furtiveglance wrote:
You literally said that Frog confirming you would out him as scum, in post 694. Or did I misinterpret that one?In post 707, Roden wrote:
Why do people keep telling me scum have no motivation to lieIn post 704, furtiveglance wrote:
Did you see my question about scum!Frog's motivation to lie? Surely they could just confirm you and Passenger would get votedIn post 703, Roden wrote:If anyone actually believes I publicly telegraph saving scum buddy Passenger in order to auto lose by Day 3 for literally no reason, I'm kind of at a loss for words
Fucking bonkers
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Which is why he's LYING.-
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He's literally admitting his own logic isn't from a town perspective here.In post 713, Frogsterking wrote:In post 711, Roden wrote:Why vote ME
Ego.In post 670, Frogsterking wrote:I didn't receive a message from Roden. You can be damn sure that one of us is lying. It should be obvious to you that Roden is the one who is lying, but if you have to flip me first to find out that Roden/Passenger/Bell are the group scum, then be my guest and vote me instead of Roden.-
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...Because the Government believes "Advocate reveal = Government gets info", and if Frog admits he received info then he confirms me as town and potentially confirms himself as the Government. Causing the players as a group to potentially see him as the Government. Which is bad if he's the Government.In post 716, furtiveglance wrote:
? How does this relate how the players as a group perceive Frog?In post 714, Roden wrote:
Because Koka already set the precedent that "Advocate reveal = Government gets info", which they then confirmed in a post later on.In post 712, furtiveglance wrote:
Consider this scenario though: Frogsterking confirms you, remains a relative UTR, and attention turns back to Passenger, Flavia, Kokabiel etc. How does this out Frog as scum, to you or anyone?In post 710, Roden wrote:
Yes.In post 709, furtiveglance wrote:
You literally said that Frog confirming you would out him as scum, in post 694. Or did I misinterpret that one?In post 707, Roden wrote:
Why do people keep telling me scum have no motivation to lieIn post 704, furtiveglance wrote:
Did you see my question about scum!Frog's motivation to lie? Surely they could just confirm you and Passenger would get votedIn post 703, Roden wrote:If anyone actually believes I publicly telegraph saving scum buddy Passenger in order to auto lose by Day 3 for literally no reason, I'm kind of at a loss for words
Fucking bonkers
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Which is why he's LYING.-
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Koka, youdiduse a fake claim.
First you claim Moonlight Dancer,In post 284, Kokabiel wrote:It's a Moonlight dancer with an additional on-death trigger, and no it's sadly not a vengeful.
I claimed and gave out my reads so there is no info you can get from me apart from the flip. So y'all useless lazy town without any reads better start working. 4 Days remaining, you can always come back to finish the job.
Then you claim Advocate. If you're only an Advocate, why did you initially claim Moonlight Dancer?In post 545, Kokabiel wrote:My role name is Advocate. It's role is Advocate i'm assuming because an Advocate advocates. And when i pm the mod he confirms that i'm an advocate which is my role name.
However you don't even seem to knowwhyyou're called an Advocate, likening it to a Spokesperson or Lawyer. In my case, I'm an Advocate for the Community itself, meant to bring attention of our plight to the wider world. I reveal my alignment to the Government because flavor-wise I become a political target. However, in your case you only become a political target because you claim to be able to reveal the Government to the Delegation.
Why would the flavor of your role give information to the scum team and not the town?-
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Doesn't seem like you thought so earlier.In post 656, Kokabiel wrote:Roden your plan failed.
If i hadn't revealed first you mightve caught them, but it is what it is.-
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I mean, you argued my case for me here. Not sure why you're trying to claim otherwise now.In post 535, Kokabiel wrote:
I see, so your role is arguably pro-town since you can confirm yourself while mine is arguably pro-delegation since i give info to the scum team.In post 531, Roden wrote:First thing everyone should know: my role isn't called Advocate or Moonlight Dancer. My ability is called Advocate, but my role is actually calledProponent. Koka has already botched their role claim as far as flavor goes. I'm fairly certain Koka isn't claiming their real role name because it would sound scummy and didn't think anyone else was also an Advocate. Though Koka did say the correct trigger phrase "Represent Residents", as that was mine as well.
Besides that, the secondary effect from my ability let's me send a message to my target mod-confirming me as town. I'd like for this player to announce this, please.-
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Also still no real answer given why you waited to reveal yourself here instead of immediately activating it and explaining how it works at the start of the game.In post 455, Kokabiel wrote:Yeah this is no good. I can't clear myself and i think Passenger is town, so that's 2 miselims.
I suppose it's time to come out with my modifier.
When i get modconfirmed the government receives a notification that the delegation will find out their identity during the next night phase(N2 in this case) unless i get killed.
I didn't say anything so i could watch the votes on me and their reasonings and Catguin looked like he had an eureka moment right after i got Modconfirmed. And AFTER that he asked what the hell a moonlight dancer is.-
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You thought you were done for and wanted to get some info for future use...but your ability apparently only works if you survive. How exactly did you plan to "get some info" if you expected your ability to fail?
Furthermore, if you knew your ability would reveal the Government to the scum team, and knew the Government would receive this information once you revealed yourself, why did you wait to claim this information? Why would you keep that to yourself until you felt like you were going to be voted out?-
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Nothing's really changed for me because I already expected Tweet's slot to deny my mod confirm. The long gap of time between replacing in and actually posting is about what I expected for someone who needs to talk with the mod to confirm mech stuff and read their slot's ISO to make sure they don't accidentally contradict anything the previous player in the slot said.