i designed this setup in 2019 [game over]

[GeorgeBailey]

I made this post in 2022

VOTE: tris/v]

[GeorgeBailey]

VOTE: tris

[GeorgeBailey]

nono i think i am not explaining well

i am not suggesting that we massclaim nor that it is a good idea or anything,

i am simply asking what others think is the mechanical ‘punishment’ for it or whatever

like if there is a warning for it ending poorly there would be a reason for this, yes?

so i wonder what others think that reason is

Because it can help scum single out powerful PRs for nightkills. It usually only helps scum to mass claim d1.

[GeorgeBailey]

I don't wanna die

[GeorgeBailey]

{Save The Dragons}

How did you get this from StD's posts?

[GeorgeBailey]

Merry Christmas.

I am very sick and delirious so please excuse me for a day

UNVOTE: tris

[GeorgeBailey]

Looking through the page HPE doesn't seem to care about Elements. Just seemed like it dropped a gotcha, but it's a pretty good gotcha considering how easy of a throwaway comment the earlier posts are in RVS.

Yeah I'm reading gimme a sec, I'm pinpointing Ranger as scum right now but I'm not fully caught up.

[GeorgeBailey]

Did not mean to quote that....

[GeorgeBailey]

Speaking of, Ranger, I'm reminding you about the Gamma meta links.

Any post not listed is either null or town. (As a reminder, I do see town in there.)
To present the scum half; 43 felt forced. This was andree's iso at the time; Gamma liked andree and nobody else? She had reads on andree and nobody else? 117/196 is a scum "I am not going to do This Thing" post. 146 forced bravado. 151 felt suspect. 192 as well. Projection. 232.
Reaction to vote on her was poor. 278 is a lot more forced than the Princess equivalent.
296 was too weak of a response, and lacked emotion; a town Gamma should've reacted to it. 327 felt out-of-place. 330's defense of imaginality is out of place given 296 prior. 340 felt unnatural. 355 felt too subdued. 436 feels fake. 460 is a scum-oriented thought, at least like that. (Town would try to resolve the conflict in read vs wagon reads.) She also doesn't specify which names on the wagon are what, the very same thing imaginality didn't do. Hated 466.

As a reminder, this is only the scum half; if you want, I can point out the townier things which weaken the scumread there. But she's still south of null for me.

What stood out most to me after reading this game was this case on Gamma. This case is incredibly forced and a lot of the points are very dishonest.

For example, the comment on 43. Why should Gamma have a comment for every single person? It's a 1-off post stating her feelings towards a slot. Why does Gamma need to comment on other slots? How is this scummy?

117 is a stretch, saying you're not going to do meta is co pletely valid.

and 146, felt like Gamma was hinting at something or cautioning rather than bravado.

Then after a bunch of potshots it comes out to sort of null, so it felt like Ranger was just shading Gamma.

Currently Ranger is vote parked on someone that she hasn't said a word about and has no intention of pressuring.

Also my earlier questioning.

I think it was Frogster who was confused why I singled out StD from Ranger's readlist. I wasn't trying to single out StD, I was trying to single out Ranger. Ranger had a top town read that had 3 posts up to this point: ofhttps://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?p=13588125#p13588125 and chalked it up to "easy meta". Scum loves to townbin super early for cred

VOTE: Ranger

[GeorgeBailey]

because a wagon on an empty slot is not going to be useful. There's no info to squeeze out of Ythan because she's not here...

Absolutely loving the CSF town here.