Community Redux | Postgame

[Meuh]

VOTE: DeasVail hellooooooooooo everyone! Prepare for the town sweep

[Meuh]

Mason sounds fun actually, you get a best buddy to talk to

[Meuh]

Honestly I kind of like Bell's page 1. Read a bit weird when Frog first mentioned it but on a reread the vibes are good.

[Meuh]

Hardclaim ninja blasphemer.

VOTE: deas

Also I know this is a joke but it's been bugging me because I don't know, what's a blasphemer?

[Meuh]

What is tractor?

A typo of traitor, I think.

[Meuh]

[Meuh]

Heehee
That response from Penguin looks slightly +town to me btw

[Meuh]

OH that image from Furtive didn't load on my phone earlier, that's what the farmer meme was

[Meuh]

Hardclaim ninja blasphemer.

VOTE: deas

Also I know this is a joke but it's been bugging me because I don't know, what's a blasphemer?

Every time someone posts a swear I get a dayvig.

I figure the game will be over by Friday.

Fuck shit fuck

@Herta

shoot the people voting for me

@Penguin

would be interested in the why!

[Meuh]

Idk exactly how to describe why I like 49, it just feels right. May be one of those cases when someone makes a post that's NAI but I just find it funny/enjoyable so I TR them for it. If so I don't mind because either way a smile was brought to my face, heehee

The thing with the votes on me is that I do think my page 1 wasn't super fantastic. Because of that it was weird for me to engage with 15 (this of itself may sound too self-aware lmao, and this remark too but whatever).

In a basic sense I think votes on me = bad because I'm confirmed townie in my own eyes, but I see justification for it via my page 1 so I'm in a murky state of "oh no, votes on me!" and "yeah but this isn't necessarily bad because there's reasonable basis for a vote this early" so I don't know how to react to it. Still need to derust a bit.

Also I took a look at the cancelled game's setup and now I'm scared... :0
My biggest note is the 9/4/1 ratio, combined with only 2 vts makes me think this is the type of game that gets won or lost on night actions. Should be interesting because that doesn't feel standard for this site. But yeah, a lot of scum roles is not a pretty sight. Hopefully, the third party role doesn't get to kill this time around because that swing potential is my worst nightmare. >_>

[Meuh]

VOTE: Meuh

What are your reads other than Penguin? Your post talking so much about mech spec and you being a confirmed townie in your eyes tells us nothing.

I also metadived you in a few games and you had a very similar opening in your scumgame but not in three towngames I crosschecked with.

I know I said I’d check with Mastina but your posts keep pinging me. You sound really nervous like you’re somehow struggling with this game.

~Nancy

This is my first time playing as myself in opening pages in a while (played an anonymous game recently but that felt

different

). I am struggling, I'm just not scum for it. 13 was disingenous because I made it from a want to post more than having something to say, and that's a way that struggle showed. That's partially why Frog's read on me is something I felt satisfied with despite yknow, its wrongness.
Main point of my last post was to show my perspective on the game because iirc that's the best way for people to manage to sort me and I wanna get accurately read ASAP. Selfishly enough, it was more of a "hey, take a glance inside my mind!" kind of post than a post meant to change people's perspective about others, cause there's pressure on me. It functioned more similarly to a post like viewtopic.php?p=12640707#p12640707, which is very old so probably not good basis for a read but in my mind it's the same type of post.
As for reads: I think you're town at this point, these past few posts from you feel pretty good. Still also leaning town on Bell from the nice page 1. I like Frog's proactivity a decent amount though I'm not sure if it's town indicative for them or a playstyle thing.

Pedit: Haven't gotten scumpings yet, tbh. I tried taking another look through people's posts when Nancy asked for reads; the only thing that really stuck out to me as meh is Herta's lack of anything of relevance to the game in any of their posts. I guess that's something.

Pepedit: That sentence somehow managed to age horribly extremely fast!

[Meuh]

When you say you r page 1 wasn't fanatastic, what is it that you mean by that?

This is my first time playing as myself in opening pages in a while (played an anonymous game recently but that felt different). I am struggling, I'm just not scum for it. 13 was disingenous because I made it from a want to post more than having something to say, and that's a way that struggle showed. That's partially why Frog's read on me is something I felt satisfied with despite yknow, its wrongness.

[Meuh]

Pedit: Haven't gotten scumpings yet, tbh. I tried taking another look through people's posts when Nancy asked for reads; the only thing that really stuck out to me as meh is Herta's lack of anything of relevance to the game in any of their posts. I guess that's something.

I'm starting to get concerned now because I was about to townlock you but I can't tell if you have a pro town agenda for not outing your scum reads. If I can't townread you then I'm pretty much back to square 0 as far as my reads go. If I can townread you so much to start a townblock with you, then I think the Nonexistent Hydra is most likely to be scum because I don't like how they came after you.

My problems are mainly just that I'm surprised you didn't say more about Tweet, they drew my attention the most with that long, static post they wrote. Also, KT's townread on you looked a bit muggy, like they're trying to pocket you. Is there any reason you don't have scum pings on KT and Tweet?

KT's mention of Tweet and I wasn't a traitor thing, sorry, I'm town
Also I don't really think NH's push against me was scum indicative. Why do you?

Also why did you expect me to have reacted to those posts from KT? My most recent post at the time predated KT's townread on me, was I meant to read the future?

At first when reading Tweet's 60 I felt like she could be town for it, but ultimately I feel like townreading someone for some (albeit good) mechspec is a bad call. Especially since Tweet could've just read the previous setup and parroted her thoughts on it from before the game started (which wouldn't be AI at all, then).

[Meuh]

Hardclaim ninja blasphemer.

VOTE: deas

Also I know this is a joke but it's been bugging me because I don't know, what's a blasphemer?

Every time someone posts a swear I get a dayvig.

I figure the game will be over by Friday.

Fuck shit fuck

@Herta

shoot the people voting for me

What were you thinking here, Meuh?

I was trying to be funny,

[Meuh]

N.Y. M replaces Nonexistent Hydra.

Welp. that was fun

UNVOTE:

~Still Nancy

Why the unvote here?

[Meuh]

That's a nice bit of info to have! Yeah, I played with Penguin once before and I recall him being similar.
Do you have a read on anyone yet? Would be nice to hear.

Also

@Frog

if you have anything to ask in order to sort me better, feel free! Might not have much more to add without the game developing a bit more first, though.

[Meuh]

@Furtive
viewtopic.php?p=13561728#p13561728

[Meuh]

Now, Titus...so, the last setup, there was no role that had this sort of abilities

There was a role like this last game. (which was town-aligned)
viewtopic.php?p=13589333#p13589333
(Clerk)
To quote one of its powers:
“Information: You know additional information about the setup: At least one role provides a misleading result.”

[Meuh]

That's a nice bit of info to have! Yeah, I played with Penguin once before and I recall him being similar.
Do you have a read on anyone yet? Would be nice to hear.

Also

@Frog

if you have anything to ask in order to sort me better, feel free! Might not have much more to add without the game developing a bit more first, though.

I've thought about what to ask you:

Why do you sketch me the $#@&! out? You worry me so much and a chill runs down my spine when I read your posts. The others "felt better" when you kept posting but I did not. If you are town, why do you seem like a red flag walking?

and why is that? What exactly drives you to want to cast a vote for "Meuh" on day 1 of this wonderful game of MafiaScum? Is it my name? Your unfamiliarity with me? If you're so terrified of anything new, I recommend seeking help. Being terrified of the unknown does nothing but make you miserable and limit your opportunities in life. If you keep going like this, I'm very scared for your future...

So I'd suggest you try new things, learn new words, familiarize yourself with the unknown, the unfamiliar, get joy out of it, thrill out of it, enrich yourself from it. Breaking those boundaries is how you'll improve yourself, how you'll prosper. and we all want prosperity, don't we?

I suggest you abandon your old life, erase your identity, and move to a new country. Obviously the life you're currently living doesn't let you reach your full potential, I'm sure you can achieve it! I have a lot of faith in you, Frogsterking. Hoping you'll get past your intense agnostophobia and start living life to your fullest, to a point where seeing "Meuh" in a playerlist doesn't bring you fear; but satisfaction of knowing how much you've evolved and learned after living beyond your past limitations.

[Meuh]

Just realized deadline's real close. Christmas messed up my perception of time

UNVOTE: DeasVail No real scumpings here and 144 was fine.

KittyTacky lim is fine I suppose, nothing worth a townread in that ISO, though I don't think he's super scummy either.
I will say 182 has bad vibes, it feels more like listing off reasons a KT lim could happen then actual reasons why Frog wants KT dead. Not bad enough to disinterest me in that wagon, though.

Herta and Bell I wouldn't fight a lim on, no strong feelings about either of them at this point.

Wish anyone had given me some juicy scumpings but it's not really been the case.

[Meuh]

Actually Herta has some slightly townie vibes in response to Frog's comment on them tbh. Not super motivated to go there.

I'll VOTE: KittyTacky because that's a more appealing wagon.

[Meuh]

Wait wtf Roden is in this game?

@Mod

can we get a prod for Roden, Andres and KittyTacky? (Especially the former 2, both haven't posted for over 4 days)

[Meuh]

viewtopic.php?p=13287457#p13287457

[Meuh]

I found my own thought process lining up with MT’s quite a lot on like page 4-5 so I’m not eager to vote there.

[Meuh]

Wait wtf Roden is in this game?

@Mod

can we get a prod for Roden, Andres and KittyTacky? (Especially the former 2, both haven't posted for over 4 days)

She posted this too. I don't think she's Town. The main purpose of pulling a stunt like that is to use it as both alignments to confuse people, otherwise it's trust telling. I think she's town in the copy she linked us to and she's scum here.

The idea behind 190 was that I had an opportunity to reuse one of my favorite posts I’ve made, which was fun to do.
If you wanted a more serious answer to your question, I do think unfamiliarity with me could be a driving force behind that discomfort. The layers of self-awareness in my opening few posts also might’ve not helped. Or maybe the contrast in productivity from my longer posts to the shorter posts that were just responding to questions. I was pretty busy these past few days so I mainly popped in to answer people’s simple questions when they were asked, so my activity materialized itself in that way.

[Meuh]

VOTE: Andres
Taking a look at his community ISO, I do see a contrast that's a bit concerning. I expect more productivity at this point. Though I will note that posts along the lines of 213 don't seem uncharacteristic for Andres: viewtopic.php?p=13549828#p13549828, viewtopic.php?p=13551797#p13551797 and viewtopic.php?p=13555365#p13555365 (all from the original community) seem quite similar.
I also disagree on the whole facet of "planning" regarding 213.
Either way he's lurky and not particularly interested in solving. The only tidbit that's mafia related in his ISO is 214, and Andres deciding to comment on the original community before the game that's currently happening I do think is worrisome.

[Meuh]

The

Day

concludes in (expired on 2022-12-31 10:56:00).

I didn't realize this but...
Shoot, less than 12 hours for a lim.
Andres would be my preferred option but I'll settle for most options because nolim = bad.
Lurking is scummy but I feel like half of this playerlist is doing it, which feels weird for a game of this size.
Bad productivity might just lose us the game long-term.

[Meuh]

I'm okay with giving dan some time.

UNVOTE: KT

This post is perplexing to make with about 24 hours left on the clock.
I do like unvoting Dan because Dan looks good in their posts but functionally this just slows down an already slow game where we need to settle on a lim ASAP.
Not a big fan.

[Meuh]

Also yeah Flavia's just town at this point

[Meuh]

Maybe Frogster is scum though

Oh shoot this is that one format where I become a liability by running out of posts due to lack of self control.

This is an unusual post from Frogster-town

Hmm never mind, I will not be entertaining those thoughts right now. Maybe later

Deas can also be town, good natural thought process, and the general idea of not entertaining some thoughts yet is very townie.

At this point I'm throwing ActionDan, Deas, N.Y. M, Flavia and Titus into the townbin. The rest can fight to get to hang out with them

[Meuh]

Here's my unofficial vote count:

Spoiler:

Unofficial Day 1 Vote Count

Andresvmb (3) - Frogsterking, Meuh, DeasVail
ActionDan (1) - Morning Tweet
Herta (1) - Titus
Meuh (1) - PenguinPower
Flavia (1) - Bell
Frogsterking (1) - Roden
furtiveglance (1) - Andresvmb
Morning Tweet (1) - furtiveglance
Bell (1) - ActionDan

Not Voting

- Flavia, N.Y M, Herta

Notes

• The combined mod ISO is here.
  
• With 14 remaining, it takes 8 to form a majority.

The

Day

concludes in (expired on 2022-12-31 10:56:00).

[Meuh]

VOTE: Bell let's get something through

[Meuh]

[Meuh]

Welcome Enchant!

[Meuh]

What's Conquistador?

[Meuh]

Oh, I was confused by what Frog was saying cause I thought the mafia was 3 people, not 4.
I admire the confidence in that solve and I don't disagree with it enough to argue against it.

[Meuh]

Oh, I was confused by what Frog was saying cause I thought the mafia was 3 people, not 4.
I admire the confidence in that solve and I don't disagree with it enough to argue against it.

[*]This is a Large Theme themed around a delegation of militants and a government official.
[*]The

Residents

are the uninformed majority and the

Delegation

is the informed minority.
[*]There is a

Government

official who is

Antisocial

. If they win, all other players will lose.

I looked at the previous game’s setup. Thought it was 3/1/10, but it was 4/1/9. I’m assuming the ratios are the same this time around

[Meuh]

Yeah it'd be nice if everyone can just vote Bell
I think 10 or so hours left before night?

[Meuh]

I think we're at E-2 so a nolim would be really embarrassing...

[Meuh]

OOoooooh who gets to hammer, who gets to hammer??

[Meuh]

Robbed of the hammer

[Meuh]

Not letting Enchant hammer is basically a scumclaim...

[Meuh]

My take is that Herta is scum trying to get credit for Bell's flip by having his name on the wagon.

Amazing how that fits in perfectly with everything you already believe about the game!

Spoiler:

Cold take: Herta hammers there regardless of alignment.

[Meuh]

I'm gonna have some ice cream.

What flavour?

[Meuh]

Ooh, nice. Like mint and chocolate, or some other combo? Or just mint

[Meuh]

Meuh and Kitty are good guesses for now.

VOTE: Meuh

I think 265 was a large part of killing Bell
Like look at the shift towards limming Bell, I had a strong role in making it happen. My vote is what made Bell officially the leading wagon and removed momentum from Andres, which was the second biggest wagon

[Meuh]

Also I assume the "hotel" is a hood?

[Meuh]

PenguinPower can be town, also placed a good vote on the Bell wagon

[Meuh]

Also...

The

Day

concludes in (expired on 2022-12-31 10:56:00).

I

didn't realize this but...

Shoot

, less than 12 hours for a lim.

Andres

would be my preferred option but I'll settle for most options because nolim = bad.

Lurking

is scummy but I feel like half of this playerlist is doing it, which feels weird for a game of this size.

Bad

productivity might just lose us the game long-term.

Will elaborate later cause it's 5am and I wanna go back to sleeeeeeeeeeep but I wanna point this out ASAP

[Meuh]

Oh yeah, Bell was a traitor, I didn't realize that

[Meuh]

PenguinPower can be town, also placed a good vote on the Bell wagon

This is a self-towncase in disguise

I did townie thing so I think other people who do townie thing are also town

[Meuh]

Meuh are you claiming vig who shot Andres/MariaR?

A bit less cool than that, I babysat Andres/MariaR thinking it had a good chance to kill them.

[Meuh]

At the time I thought Bell was a traitor so a kill on me was more appealing, paired with good old self-centeredness

[Meuh]

This is where I'm at

Town - {DeasV, Meuh, Flavia}
Close enough but please post more to confirm - {Titus}
Close enough to close enough - {Tweet}

Massive gap

{Frog}
{Everyone else}

Will need some time to reevaluate the bottom half.

VOTE: MariaR

Pedit: because 2 main scum 1 traitor that gets endgamed is way too weak in this setup

Also I was gonna make a readslist but this is pretty much it anyways

[Meuh]

VOTE: MariaR

[Meuh]

I'm town though

[Meuh]

GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR I AM ANGRYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

WHY DIDN'T YOU DIE LAST NIGHT?????????

GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
GRRRRR
GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

[Meuh]

377 is a scum tell according to the Luca Blight tell

Also wtf is the Luca Blight tell

[Meuh]

Actually, why is PenguinPower town? @MariaR

[Meuh]

VOTE: Enchant
Prefer this

[Meuh]

Fair enough!

[Meuh]

Maria used a little heart icon, though. She can't be scum here!

[Meuh]

My thought process was very similar before I realized that Bell was a traitor, I feel like I should reconsider stuff now but at the same time, the people on the Bell wagon are pretty much all townier than the ones not on it so...

[Meuh]

VOTE: MariaR sounds good!

[Meuh]

Herta dying tonight = good, right?

[Meuh]

This makes me think Meuh is less likely to be Town aligned because it looks a lot like trust telling if they're the same alignment.

Just to make it explicit, that wasn't a trust tell, I don't trust tell, game integrity = good
I just saw an opportunity to reuse one my favourite posts because it's funny and I took it.

[Meuh]

lmaoooooooooo

[Meuh]

You can see all visits to all members of the hotel? That's quite nice. Did herta know that?

To be specific, herta was aware that MariaR had been guiltied by the hotel as it was posted into the hotel thread at the start of day,

but prior to D2 I was the only one who the knew the hotel had this functionality

.

[Meuh]

If I visit them at night we become masons but the 3p can kill us.

My role has slight implications that my role and the mafia factional kill are the only kills so I'm not tempted to believe this.

[Meuh]

Herta dying tonight = good, right?

Pew pew pow

[Meuh]

Thought we'd get a scum flip but I can just blame you guys

[Meuh]

What
Do you think Herta's flip is fake?
and if so, "we" is a strong word when I did all the work

[Meuh]

Oh that would make sense, yeah

[Meuh]

Well actually I take that back, if herta is dead meuh targeted someone else?

?

[Meuh]

Oh I didn't babysit Herta, it was a different ability
Still technically a "protective" one but also an ability that's very easy to use to pew pew pow murder, which is what I decided to use it for

[Meuh]

My role is a killing/protective

[Meuh]

After I killed Herta just for you guys? You would accuse me of this? Tragic!

[Meuh]

Because I wanted to use more powers and babysitting first meant that I could also use the shot anyways
I originally wanted to use this power night 1 (hence the way my crumb was worded and the fact I even crumbed), but decided on babysitting because I got real scared I'd be dead

[Meuh]

After I killed Herta just for you guys? You would accuse me of this? Tragic!

Lying

Truthful

[Meuh]

Either way Meuh is scum or 3rd Party for the AtE in #588

Incongruent with Town who just wasted a vig shot or whatever BS she's claiming

That post was a joke
Also I wasted a vig shot by... shooting your scumread? What else did you want me to do, shoot myself?

[Meuh]

Are you the 3p

[Meuh]

Well if you wasted a shot, why don't you tell us who it was on?

I'm the one who shot Herta.

[Meuh]

Thought I made that clear

[Meuh]

Yeah, I don't know where the scum kill went

[Meuh]

Fwiw scum can't have also killed Herta. The power I used is this: I can protect a player, but if said player isn't targeted by a kill, I kill them instead.
Hence the protective/killing aspect of my role, and why I decided to use my power as a vig shot.

[Meuh]

Fwiw scum can't have also killed Herta. The power I used is this: I can protect a player, but if said player isn't targeted by a kill, I kill them instead.
Hence the protective/killing aspect of my role, and why I decided to use my power as a vig shot.

My role has slight implications that my role and the mafia factional kill are the only kills so I'm not tempted to believe this.

So, assuming you are telling the truth, then there is a 3p that targeted Maria. At this point, you had Maria as scum so care to explain the thought process here?

What

[Meuh]

I babysat MariaR on N1

[Meuh]

I'll let Mueh answer PP

Titus I highly doubt there are any other protectives aside from meuh, and also doubt one was on you over frog

[Meuh]

Okay let me make my claim clearer so it's easier to understand.
I have various abilities that are all combined protective/killing.
I have one shot of each of these abilities.
I can use one per night.
I used my babysitter power on MariaR on N1.
I used my CPR doc power on Herta on N2.
Here you go

[Meuh]

I have one shot of each of these abilities.

They're one shot.

[Meuh]

I have a third ability but claiming it makes it a lot less useful

[Meuh]

I have a third ability but claiming it makes it a lot less useful

Yes of course there is. It's been obvious from the start that you were lying.

What? How does me having 3 abilities rather than 2 make me less believable lmao

[Meuh]

I can fullclaim then

[Meuh]

I'm town, dude.

[Meuh]

I'm a town JOAT role. I have 3 abilities, I may use one every night, and I have one shot of all of these abilities. All my abilities can both protect someone from a kill, but can also lead to someone's death. Hence killing/protective.

My actions:
-I can babysit another player.
-I can use a CPR doc power on another player.
-I can protect another player. If this player is attacked, both me and the attacker die. (This seems to be called "huntsman" on the wiki)

I have no other attributes.
I have not received feedback on any night.

On night 1, I babysat MariaR.
On night 2, I used the CPR doc shot on Herta.

[Meuh]

I'm starting to become convinced Meuh is 3p

Yeah look at her claim.

Amazing how that fits in perfectly with everything you already believe about the game!

Spoiler:

[Meuh]

If I visit them at night we become masons but the 3p can kill us.

My role has slight implications that my role and the mafia factional kill are the only kills so I'm not tempted to believe this.

This is a reference to the huntsman ability, btw. If multiple people were to attempt a kill on a player I was protecting with that ability, the killed attacker would be randomized. I think a randomized kill would be something avoided in a setup so I found MariaR's claim less believable.

[Meuh]

If I visit them at night we become masons but the 3p can kill us.

My role has slight implications that my role and the mafia factional kill are the only kills so I'm not tempted to believe this.

This is a reference to the huntsman ability, btw. If multiple people were to attempt a kill on a player I was protecting with that ability, the killed attacker would be randomized. I think a randomized kill would be something avoided in a setup so I found MariaR's claim less believable.

That doesn't make me believe your claim or your alignment any more.

Didn't think it would. I hope it helps out other people, though!

[Meuh]

I already fullclaimed.

[Meuh]

Everything there is to know is in that post.

[Meuh]

This is the part where I defend myself but we don't really know enough about this 3p faction to even know what exactly we're looking for
So like idk
I was gonna say "why does 3p me kill Herta last night?" but also I'm sure there's some scenario where a 3p would
At least we can agree I'm not maf

[Meuh]

This is the part where I defend myself

I'd rather you either be quiet or post some agatha christie shit to find the scum. Defending yourself is the worst thing you could be doing right now from my point of view.

Enchant/Furtive scum, PenguinPower 3p
I think 3p having hood access would be a good way to give it power, do you guys also think that's possible?
Cause PenguinPower's given me enough both bad vibes and enough not mafia vibes for that to make quite a lot of sense
Enchant just gives 0 solvy vibes and town!Enchant usually does.
Furtive's kind of just POE cause I find most people townie
I could see MT also be maf though, just got a bit more good pings there than from Furtive or Enchant

[Meuh]

So MT's been in a good spot in my eyes for a while but when looking at the PList for who could be scum I'm questioning it a little.
One thing that's noteworthy to me about my feeling on MT is that I think I may have picked up on NAI things as town indicative even though I shouldn't have.
Cause something early that I liked about MT is the way you lumped her and I together, and I thought she was being more reasonable with you in the following interactions.
But it's like I didn't really get townpings from her there, I just agreed with her reasoning more and because I was put in a category with her I've felt more comfortable with her.
Then she's been one of the people to confidently townread me which like, yay that's cool! and it's put her in higher regard in my mind but like, it's not necessarily something that makes her town (and even could make her scum, she could be informed of my alignment since I think it's reasonable to doubt my alignment at least a little)

[Meuh]

Like I feel like I kind of just slowly picked up good vibes from MT over time but those may not have been justified

[Meuh]

Where was the N1 visit?

how the fuck would i know i wasnt playing on night one

You can pm the mod but I'm disinclined to believe a loud visitor as well.

Yeah I have to say, Meuh and Pooky you guys both did a great job seeming sketchy as fuck with your claims. I don't think that means you're lying but I do think it takes some talent to claim a role in a way which makes it seem

so

feasible that you're lying about all of it.

Where I'm at right now is exactly where I promised to be last night: I have no clue who the scum/traitor/3rd party are.

Team Solve A: The Usual Suspects

furtiveglance and Enchant

Team Solve B: The Bullshitters

Pooky and Meuh

Team Solve C: The Down Under-the-Raiders

Dease and Morning Tweet

I like to think of those teams as teams on the Amazing Race.
If I ever go on there my team will be called "The Bullshitters"

[Meuh]

That's fun

[Meuh]

UNVOTE: DeasVail No real scumpings here and 144 was fine.

Maybe Frogster is scum though

Oh shoot this is that one format where I become a liability by running out of posts due to lack of self control.

This is an unusual post from Frogster-town

Hmm never mind, I will not be entertaining those thoughts right now. Maybe later

Deas can also be town, good natural thought process, and the general idea of not entertaining some thoughts yet is very townie.

At this point I'm throwing ActionDan, Deas, N.Y. M, Flavia and Titus into the townbin. The rest can fight to get to hang out with them

This is where I'm at

Town - {

DeasV

, Meuh, Flavia}
Close enough but please post more to confirm - {Titus}
Close enough to close enough - {Tweet}

Massive gap

{Frog}
{Everyone else}

Will need some time to reevaluate the bottom half.

VOTE: MariaR

Pedit: because 2 main scum 1 traitor that gets endgamed is way too weak in this setup

Also I was gonna make a readslist but this is pretty much it anyways

[Meuh]

Why would I have suspicion of you when you've made several posts that I found to look townie and not really anything to contradict this?

[Meuh]

Also why would I, if 3p, claim anything that has any sort of link with MariaR's claim (even if very indirect) when I'm actively being suspected of being 3p rather than staying quiet? It's not like the push for Maria needed more momentum (and would a 3p even want Maria dead considering her role is connected to theirs?)

[Meuh]

Also why would I, if 3p, claim anything that has any sort of link with MariaR's claim (even if very indirect) when I'm actively being suspected of being 3p rather than staying quiet? It's not like the push for Maria needed more momentum (and would a 3p even want Maria dead considering her role is connected to theirs?)

I don’t remember you being suspected of being 3p yesterday but I could be remembering wrong

Frog's been calling me 3p since like mid day1 lmao

[Meuh]

This doesn't really defuse my point in any way
Me being 3p is an idea that's been shared multiple times since day 1

[Meuh]

That's pretty embarrassing... you should switch your vote just for that

VOTE: Furtive

[Meuh]

im p convinced the last scumbag is just roden/enchant[for the memes] and i feel no urge to solve for 3p cuz i dun even know if we have to elim the 3p to win

I think there's 2 maf left
There were 4 maf in the original setup

[Meuh]

3p stealing the win would just be sad

[Meuh]

I think it was double traitor in the original setup

[Meuh]

3p stealing the win would just be sad

i mean - that's why we yeet you today and then don't have to worry about it

If only I was actually 3p

[Meuh]

Yeah at the very least, I don't really think Furtive is 3p (duelist 3p would be incredibly weird) so like if you're looking for 3p I make more sense (I'm town though)

[Meuh]

Then why did you duel me?

[Meuh]

I'm clearly not maf so either you kill a townie or you kill a 3p that doesn't need to die

[Meuh]

You think I'm maf? That's a hot take

[Meuh]

I'm just an innocent angel

[Meuh]

Also I killed Herta last night and that's a nonsensical kill for maf to make

[Meuh]

(I'm pretty sure Frog saw me visit Herta so this isn't just me saying "hey I killed Herta", it's a known fact)

[Meuh]

Why would I do a gambit like that when scum me could just kill a townie outside the hood and move on

[Meuh]

Herta dying tonight = good, right?

and if people wanted someone else dead they could've responded to this

[Meuh]

Herta dying narrowed the POE either way, it was a protown action to take

[Meuh]

At the time I thought Bell was a traitor so a kill on me was more appealing, paired with good old self-centeredness

[Meuh]

Just realized I wrote that post incorrectly, I hadn’t realized Bell was a traitor yet

[Meuh]

But yeah I thought Bell was just regular scum and I think the role I played there made me obv town + I was one of the more active players so scum would kill me

[Meuh]

Oh no I said sentence wrong, I’m scum!!!

[Meuh]

But yeah I thought Bell was just regular scum and I think the role I played there made me obv town + I was one of the more active players so scum would kill me

What made you feel you would be safe N2/N3?

I didn’t think I would be, but I knew that if I babysat N1, I’d at least be able to use a second ability on N2, so overall I’d get more use out of my role
Like to me it was more appealing to babysit N1 and shoot someone N2 than to shoot N1 and potentially just die

[Meuh]

Socks are a good part of a healthy diet

[Meuh]

Gn Furtive!

[Meuh]

Furtive's recent posting isn't even scumpinging me so I don't mind dying all that much

[Meuh]

Furtive's recent posting isn't even scumpinging me so I don't mind dying all that much

Virtue signaling?

VOTE: Meuh
No signaling, just virtue

[Meuh]

Furtive's recent posting isn't even scumpinging me so I don't mind dying all that much

Virtue signaling?

if shes scum and she knows furtive is 3p condemner cop she doesnt care if furtive lims her and wins or if she lims furtive and then his role flips and she gets limmed next

she literally loses either way

Why are you still stuck on this idea of 3p condemner cop I don't get it

[Meuh]

I do think if I was scum I'd probably think I've already lost the game, but at the same time you could use that potential mentality to justify literally any action I do: a player who can't win functionally has no objective in the game

[Meuh]

UNVOTE: Meuh
I'll SV if it comes to it but Furtive dying is still better cause they could just be scum

Pedit: One step ahead of you

[Meuh]

Yeah I think I mentioned that, to me 3p being in hood makes sense because presence in the hood sounds like the kind of informational power that'd be given to a 3p
Though I think I might've said Penguin was 3p in hood? Both of them kind of make sense as that to me
They're both in the hood right? You/Penguin/MT/Herta?

[Meuh]

A hood with concrete powers and no scum in it is a pretty crazy idea to me

[Meuh]

Yeah thought so

[Meuh]

Oh RIP me
You guys got this still!! I believe in you all

[Meuh]

Thanks for modding RH and gg!
Happy I got to kill in this game, that's always fun (

even though I shot a townie

)