Cosmos Mafia (Postgame)

Enchant · Fri Dec 23, 2022 11:19 am

In post 7753, Klick wrote:
In post 7735, Enchant wrote:Security Guard+Visionary combo basically. Target will know who targeted them and what they did?
No, they'll know who targeted them but not what they did.
Can I please ask what made you think that?

Ugh there was claim "I received message that Meuh checked me".

If that's how you say, it should say "I received message that Meuh used ability on me" instead.

Let me find it real quick...

Enchant · Fri Dec 23, 2022 11:20 am

In post 7286, Past Present Future wrote:
In post 7267, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:I agree Radical Rat should be the lim today.

The fake burn means Meuh is all but confirmed as not Solar to me, since I have a role-related result suggesting that Solar tried to target her during Noon 1.

I want to wait for PPF and Meuh to check in and see if they will confirm DDS' role.
I reveived a message in our hydra pt that Meuh checked us, nothing else.

And I agree, Porkens’ flip likely point to RR scum.

Yeah this one

Enchant · Fri Dec 23, 2022 11:28 am

I will sleep when i lie forever

Anyway, while i have time, you can ask me questions, but i am not in brainstorming mood: I wasted it all today

Enchant · Fri Dec 23, 2022 11:29 am

I actually interested, why MathBlade was not protected?

... Well except that it was MathBlade. Uh.
Where "I can only target two players" comed to.

And etc.

Enchant · Sat Dec 24, 2022 5:00 am

In post 7862, professotic wrote:Hero Solving is Fantastic, I encourage it.

Cause when you Hero Solve and no one listens to you, you die and everyone forget your reads existed, you can flex about being right after game.

professotic spoke based facts

Enchant · Sat Dec 24, 2022 5:01 am

Anyway i oversleep so uh can we pressure professotic for a bit because i have feeling "3 scum confirmed" is something he taked as scum information from role PM, like i am not really sure how he did that.

Enchant · Sat Dec 24, 2022 6:44 am

In post 7868, professotic wrote:
In post 7865, Enchant wrote:Anyway i oversleep so uh can we pressure professotic for a bit because i have feeling "3 scum confirmed" is something he taked as scum information from role PM, like i am not really sure how he did that.
You can pressure me if you want but I still believe it to be 3 players from each side and i still remember seeing it somewhere but I guess I was mistaken?

In post 7867, professotic wrote:
In post 7864, Enchant wrote:
In post 7862, professotic wrote:Hero Solving is Fantastic, I encourage it.

Cause when you Hero Solve and no one listens to you, you die and everyone forget your reads existed, you can flex about being right after game.

professotic spoke based facts
You’re not allowed to change what I post.
That’s against the rules buddy.
I’ll leave you with my own warning cause I don’t think you should be mod warned but yeah try not to fake quotes.

Can you quote this rule

Enchant · Sun Dec 25, 2022 9:07 pm

Alright i looked on chart and that's how my readlist looks like.

Let's go with assumption that 3 are in each team.
It means among 10 ppl are 3 evil.

Meuh - Town/Lunar
Professotic - Evil?
Dingle Dangle Scarecrow - Lunar/Town
Magician - Lunar/Solar/Town
Past Present Future - Solar?
Cat Scratch Fever - Lunar/Town
Enchant. Town
Firebringer
Ydrasse
T-Bone

Now i start poking all evidences:

Meuh

All Meuh results are Sun. Of course: If you are Lunar, then giving Sun results is always safe. If you give Moon result and person turns out to be Solar, you die next quarantee. Nevermind that Solars will know you fake. It's not like you can be caught on lie anyway.
Meuh role is real, which is so far confirmed by DDS and PPF.
Acts at Noon. When Solars acts supposedly. It's confirmed atleast by two different players. Unless there's like 4+ scumteams (WHICH COULD BE POSSIBLE CONSIDERING LUNAR NEVER EVER KILLED BUT LET'S NOT) or scumteam has abilities which can act on both likely just town.
Slipped that first check was actually Lunar but corrected. I believe Meuh actually has role and therefore has no incentive to lie on this one. Mistake can happen.
So far i think Meuh are most likely town. If not, Lunar.

Professotic

Got wagoned D1. Then decided to disappear. Very useful usage of ability when unlikely to be targeted. Anti-town usage.
On otherhand, this ability is exactly more useful lategame for scum, to keep vote in ELO if endangered. It means usage of ability sucks regardless of alignment. But it's scummy anyway.
There's no 1-Shot claims yet, except for astral ghost themself. What this role supposed to inherit?
3 members in scumteam confirmed? I am surprised you not getting heat for it.
I believe scum has no incentive to pocket and protect me especially in multiball, but considering Mastina plays in House of Dragon, i actually don't know.
More likely evil tho

Dingle Dangle Scarecrow

Targeting sucks. No-no you have no excuse.
Role is real. Like yeah.

and then i got bored and sleepy but i receive my towncred yea?

Enchant · Sun Dec 25, 2022 9:23 pm

No really personally i think PPF should be pressured to full claim as i don't believe them

Enchant · Mon Dec 26, 2022 2:15 am

In post 7920, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:
In post 7905, Enchant wrote:Alright i looked on chart and that's how my readlist looks like.
What's your analysis of my slot?

Your claim doesn't fully check out with previous Yume words (fairly it's hard to make sense of this one), but Yume is Yume so i can forget that.
For example Yume claimed that only can claim two players in the game and "mastina one of them".

You CAN be Solar. But it's unlikely. I give it like... How, 2-5% percent? If you was Solar, you would fakeclaim you can only stop Solar kills, not that your shield keeps.
But Solars attacking Meuh, FAILING and then not noticing your announcement and can't chain these two facts? I wonder if they attack suspected protective, or MathBlade. Fairly they feared about RR beinf silar so...

Lunar. You can be easily be one. But i believe Meuh js town, and by proxy i believe you for time being.

I honestly would search elsewhere, that's why i try to question PPF.

Enchant · Mon Dec 26, 2022 2:26 am

In post 7909, Past Present Future wrote:
In post 7908, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:PPF what was your flavor?
Town beloved Princess why?

I know your role can affect phases. You didn't claim fully.

You most likely NOT Lunar due Meuh result, i understand that.

It checks out... I guess. Let's presume for moment Lunar targeted PPF with factional (Night are their time??) I dunno what it does, but then via passive they either learn that PPF is "Beloved Princess" if they are town or "Vanilla" if they are Solar.

... And... Well we saw that.

It annoys me that MMT claimed Loyal Neopolitan, and you claim Beloved Princess, while all other claims except for VT have fancy flavor names.

Also it's so badly executed Neopolitan claim (TO THE POINT I BELIEVED IT) that like... Really. Why...

Enchant · Mon Dec 26, 2022 2:27 am

Also you townread me in that game when i agreed with you and put me in scum when i didn't. So eh

Enchant · Mon Dec 26, 2022 5:29 pm

VOTE: professotic

Sorry.

Enchant · Mon Dec 26, 2022 7:19 pm

In post 7966, Past Present Future wrote:
In post 7961, Enchant wrote:VOTE: professotic

Sorry.
What I’m thinking is if Prof is scum, could possibly explain the no kills nights 1 and 2 but nothing explains why there’s no evidence of anything happening on Night 3 or is my math wrong here? There’s so many phases to keep track of, I get them all mixed up.

I don't understand

Enchant · Mon Dec 26, 2022 7:23 pm

Firebringer wrote:anyone know of any good jokes

This one

Enchant · Mon Dec 26, 2022 7:25 pm

In post 7975, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:
In post 7969, Past Present Future wrote:
In post 7968, Cat Scratch Fever wrote: 2. Radical Rat pushed mastina because they genuinely thought she was scum - they had a post where they said they try to push opposing Scum in multiball (2156).
I have the general impression that Radical Rat isn't as comfortable lying and mostly tried to push the truth as much as possible.
You are basing the bolded on what exactly? Can you link/quote any RR scumgames that show they aren’t likely to lie as scum? Because that isn’t my experience.
Their relentless push on MMR - they immediately leapt on MMR after their Loyal Nea claim. They didn't hold back out of fear making themselves a big target from the Lunar team, even though they correctly called out exactly why MMR was scum.
4348 - they mentioned that Lunar can only act during Nights and Solar can only act during Noons - that's truthtelling because based on the flips, it matches exactly when Scum can act
7342 was also TMI - how did they know for certain Solar attempted to kill Meuh, when no protective had claimed at that point?

maybe some others as well, those are just the ones from the top of my mind

Let's just say that i believe Solars attacked Meuh, so CSF

is

protective and i don't understand why we should vote here.

Enchant · Mon Dec 26, 2022 7:36 pm

Even pressuming prof is lunar, he is NOT only lunar so i doubt he just say "so anyway good luck without nks!" and go in invisibility like that.

Enchant · Mon Dec 26, 2022 8:06 pm

ah fuck this i take third option

I sheep Meuh. Lole.

Enchant · Tue Dec 27, 2022 2:09 am

I will vote Ydrasse if need.

Enchant · Tue Dec 27, 2022 2:09 am

Meuh what you think about prof

Enchant · Tue Dec 27, 2022 8:28 am

In post 8001, professotic wrote:Furtive was right.
Town loses this one.

I am ready to talk.

Enchant · Tue Dec 27, 2022 9:05 am

Can you explain Dingle as i have them as green

Enchant · Tue Dec 27, 2022 5:47 pm

In post 8030, Past Present Future wrote:Well I had no idea I was sun attuned until Meuh checked me, so no idea where he got that from.

Aren't you said you was Dusk princess or something

Enchant · Tue Dec 27, 2022 8:07 pm

I am here for all time.

Enchant · Tue Dec 27, 2022 8:48 pm

VOTE: Ydrasse

E-1

4 hours. We not getting anything else probably. Atleast not something which WHOLE TOWN will vote in that time.

Just in case i have no reason to think if ydrasse is either evil or not. For me it's null.

Enchant · Tue Dec 27, 2022 10:01 pm

I think PPT white knight

Enchant · Tue Dec 27, 2022 10:10 pm

You now lying. I never said that.

Enchant · Tue Dec 27, 2022 10:19 pm

In post 8070, Past Present Future wrote:
In post 8068, Enchant wrote:You now lying. I never said that.
No you are. I can look it up. You said exactly that in Nobility.

VOTE: Enchant

K go ahead and prove it because i didn't say so.

Enchant · Tue Dec 27, 2022 10:24 pm

In post 8080, Past Present Future wrote:
In post 8066, Past Present Future wrote:
In post 8063, Enchant wrote:I think PPT white knight
Based on what? That’s transparently disingenuous on your part. I gave valid reasons for why I think Ydra’s town and you’re just looking at bs reasons to shade me.

You are not out of my PoE here. Not by a longshot.

I think you pulled something similar on me in one of your scumgames.

Like Nobility when you said I always tr you as scum. So you can get fucking rekt with that.

In post 593, Enchant wrote:
Eiralox wrote:Re bear da, bear most vt seeming one here for now. DA being bad vote town jackalin sheep skinalways a good strat tho so 95 on phobe and then all yall not nobled factored in 5
I actually agree. Nancy loves to pocket me as scum for some reason though, so not absolutely sure.

HEAL: Tapio

Tell me I’m lying again Enchant, I fucking dare you.

you fabricated it

Enchant · Tue Dec 27, 2022 10:28 pm

In post 8090, Past Present Future wrote:
In post 8088, Enchant wrote:
In post 8080, Past Present Future wrote:
In post 8066, Past Present Future wrote:
In post 8063, Enchant wrote:I think PPT white knight
Based on what? That’s transparently disingenuous on your part. I gave valid reasons for why I think Ydra’s town and you’re just looking at bs reasons to shade me.

You are not out of my PoE here. Not by a longshot.

I think you pulled something similar on me in one of your scumgames.

Like Nobility when you said I always tr you as scum. So you can get fucking rekt with that.

In post 593, Enchant wrote:
Eiralox wrote:Re bear da, bear most vt seeming one here for now. DA being bad vote town jackalin sheep skinalways a good strat tho so 95 on phobe and then all yall not nobled factored in 5
I actually agree. Nancy loves to pocket me as scum for some reason though, so not absolutely sure.

HEAL: Tapio

Tell me I’m lying again Enchant, I fucking dare you.
you fabricated it
It’s right from that game. Do you seriously think you can get away with this?

yes

Enchant · Tue Dec 27, 2022 10:31 pm

what it argument even proves

like i said you whiteknighing, you said you townread me as scum like i don't see how it even related

Enchant · Tue Dec 27, 2022 10:32 pm

Cool now i get tunneled

Enchant · Tue Dec 27, 2022 10:43 pm

idk i dunno what Ydrasse flips

Enchant · Tue Dec 27, 2022 10:48 pm

In post 8102, Past Present Future wrote:
In post 8101, Enchant wrote:idk i dunno what Ydrasse flips
Then how do you get the wk thing from? A wk means you think she’s probably town. I guess we’ll find out then. I hope she does flip scum but I don’t think so.

well i had ydrasse as null and also reluctant to vote here

I don't remember you putting serious effort in making counterwagon actually... Fairly i didn't put either...

Enchant · Tue Dec 27, 2022 10:48 pm

I just find it strange that we both did nothing but you when it's like 4 hours decided to start acting when it's probably unevitable

Enchant · Tue Dec 27, 2022 10:56 pm

well if it's T-bone we are fucked ceirtanly

Enchant · Tue Dec 27, 2022 10:59 pm

who you scumread expect for me

Enchant · Fri Dec 30, 2022 4:58 am

Why you targeted Meuh if she obviously gonna die

Enchant · Fri Dec 30, 2022 5:06 am

In post 8122, T-Bone wrote:I think it gets a little harder from here as I think everyone is reasonably cleared from at least one scumteam, yeah? I use the word cleared not as mod confirmed, but based on my reads of how other players have played. Meuh's flip really helps here, as they produced a few attunements that we now know are a true thing.

No, Meuh flip is harmful impact and gived us only fact that PPF is not Lunar.

Enchant · Fri Dec 30, 2022 5:10 am

In post 8125, Dingle Dangle Scarecrow wrote:
In post 8120, Enchant wrote:Why you targeted Meuh if she obviously gonna die
What made it obvious that anyone would die last night?
What would you have done with our role? You seem to have a lot of opinions on us having used it poorly.

We targeted Meuh in case they were targeted by something that would mess with their result.

It's Solar Dawn, Solar could kill, and CSF claimed her shield are on you.

Enchant · Fri Dec 30, 2022 5:15 am

I think we should ignore PPF.

I fear unknown Lunars more than Solars who proved they can just kill.

Enchant · Fri Dec 30, 2022 5:17 am

In post 8130, Dingle Dangle Scarecrow wrote:
In post 8126, Enchant wrote:Solar could kill,
We'd only seen Solar kill once until last night

I'll once again ask, what would you have done?

Solars attacked three times at dawns already.
One was blocked by CSF on Meuh. If you believe CSF you supposed to believe that as well.
Second was on MathBlade.
And third was on Meuh again.

...
I don't know who i would target. Probably my question really dumb yeah..

Enchant · Fri Dec 30, 2022 5:31 am

Why Firebringer can't fill both teams.

Enchant · Fri Dec 30, 2022 5:40 am

In post 8140, T-Bone wrote:Can someone help me out and summarize claims that haven't been flipped? I have the Mod's ISO open so I am set on flipped players.

We only have PPF-Dawn Princess and Dingle Iluminator or what is that.

Enchant · Fri Dec 30, 2022 5:43 am

Magician didn't claim actually.

Enchant · Fri Dec 30, 2022 5:44 am

Or i did miss it... I update my list.

Enchant · Fri Dec 30, 2022 6:09 am

In post 7735, Enchant wrote:Well anyway. Updating.

Ded:

12. Maid Cafe/Toogeloo/Porkens. Solar Hypnotist. Eliminated Dawn 2 (D4).

Spoiler: Role
At Noons (Even-Night) can force target to receive one of messages:
"You have been burned!"
"Someone attempted to burn you, but it failed!"
"Your burn has been healed."

Actions:
Noon 1: T-Bone (Someone attempted to burn you, but it failed!)
Noon 2:

1. Radical Rat. Solar Cultist. Eliminated at Dusk 3 (D5)

10. MMR (Hydra of Ircher, RH9, and Roden). Lunar Starmaster. Eliminated at Dawn 1 (D2).

Spoiler: Role
Passively rolecops all targets of factional ability. If target was from Solar Cult, result will be "Vanilla" regardless.

15. Save the Dragons/Ydrasse. Lunar Cultist

13. Korina/Mathblade. Town Novice Dusk Knight. Killed Noon 2 (N4)

Spoiler: Role
Dusk Vig (Odd-Day). Need to kill player of different faction everytime, or they will die. Nothing can prevent this kill.

Actions:
Dusk 2 (d2): unwnd

2. Mastina/Nero Cain/Meuh. Limited Astrologer.

Spoiler: Role
At Noon (Even-Night) target character and receive attunement: Sun or Moon. People with Sun can't be Lunar. People with Moon can't be Solar.
Can't target MathBlade and Dingle.

Actions:
Noon 1 (N2): unwnd. Result: Sun.
Noon 2 (N4): PPF. Result: Sun.

14. Furtiveglance. Vanilla Townie. Eliminated Dusk 2 (D3)

17. radja/unwnd. Vanilla Townie. Killed Dusk 2 (D3) by MathBlade.

9. Bunnyonce (Hydra of Aisa and Greeting). Vanilla Townie. Eliminated at Dusk 1 (D1).

Game:
Dusk > Night > Dawn > Noon

Dusk 1: Bunnyonce eliminated (Vanilla Townie)
Night 1: professotic disappeared
Dawn 1: MMR eliminated (Lunar Starmaster)
Noon 1: No one Died.
Dusk 2: unwnd was shot by Mathblade (Vanilla Townie) and then Furtiveglance was eliminated (Vanilla Townie). professotic returned.
Night 2: No one Died.
Dawn 2: Porkens Eliminated (Solar Hypnotist).
Noon 2: MathBlade Killed (Town Novice Dusk Knight).
Dusk 3: Radical Rat Eliminated (Solar Cultist)
Night 3: No one Died.
Dawn 3: Ydrasse Eliminated (Lunar Cultist)
Noon 3: Meuh Killed (Town Limited Astrologer)
Dusk 4: Going

Alive:
3. professotic (Hydra of Professordrapion and tictac). Disappeared Night 1 (N1) but came back at end of Dusk 2 (D3). 1-Shot Astral Ghost.

Spoiler: Role
At Night can disappear and all actions on him will fail.
While gone inherits 1-shot abilities.

Actions:
Night 1: Used
Dusk 2 (D3): Appeared again

4. Dingle Dangle Scarecrow (Hydra with Klick and Bellaphant). Eluminator. Not Gamestart Solar.

Spoiler: Role
Target will know who targeted them

Actions:
Night 1: T-Bone
Noon 1: Ydrasse
Night 2: Scarfmanship
Noon 2: PPT. Acknowlidged that Meuh targeted them.
Night 3: ? Didn't find sorry.
Dawn 3: Meuh

6. Past Present Future (Hydra of Nancy Drew 39, Titus, and Auro). Can't be Lunar. Dawn Priestess.

Spoiler: Role
Interacts with game phases if they die

7. Yume/Cat Scratch Fever. Guardian

Spoiler: Role
At night can place shield which protects from negative utility and kills. Will know if blocks successfully. Shield lasts for whole 4 phases.
N1 - Meuh
N2 - Meuh
N3 - DDL

8. Enchant. Vanilla Townie

5. Child of Fairies/Scarfmanship/Junkochan/Magician. Vanilla Townie
11. Frozen Angel/Firebringer. Vanilla Townie
16. T-Bone. Vanilla Townie

Enchant · Fri Dec 30, 2022 7:11 am

In post 8166, Past Present Future wrote: Who hammered furtive? Oh yeah Enchant and Magician voted the unCC’d doc claim so get rekt.

wait when

Enchant · Fri Dec 30, 2022 7:19 am

PPF point actually valid: They can't be scum with Ydrasse.

I still think that was whiteknight thou.

Enchant · Fri Dec 30, 2022 7:35 am

I didn't knew Furtive claimed doc... Or i did.

I forgot.

Enchant · Fri Dec 30, 2022 7:41 am

Pressuring PPF is funny but we want lunar.

Enchant · Fri Dec 30, 2022 7:54 am

WHO is Rubella

Enchant · Fri Dec 30, 2022 4:36 pm

Don't really have.

Believe CSF.

It means there was two attacks on Meuh somehow.

Idk how.

Enchant · Fri Dec 30, 2022 4:38 pm

In post 8226, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:
In post 8224, Past Present Future wrote:
In post 8223, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:No sorry that was just a hypothetical example to explain how my role works. I find it unlikely that Lunar can kill in the traditional sense given we haven't seen them kill.

I'm not sure what the second thing that Meuh was targeted was.
Well if you’re telling the truth, then that’s the only thing that could possibly make sense because you say strongman isn’t possible, right?

Because Lunar hasn’t done anything and Dangle’s role as potential lunar vanillaizer has to exist for a reason.
I think multitasking solar applying a negative effect and a kill makes more sense than lunar killing, maybe

Idk it needs knowledge that you protect only from one.

Enchant · Sat Dec 31, 2022 12:57 pm

Whole page is professotic shitpost with partually other player shitposts

Enchant · Sat Dec 31, 2022 1:00 pm

In post 8309, professotic wrote:and has a confirmed ghost ability!
Yeah why not!

Why you mention this

Enchant · Sat Dec 31, 2022 1:20 pm

In post 8329, professotic wrote:What did I do?

Are you alt of ProfessorDrapion?

Enchant · Sat Dec 31, 2022 1:22 pm

Uh oh.

Enchant · Sat Dec 31, 2022 1:23 pm

Well i don't really want to touch this anymore.

Fire, who is last sun or lun fanatics you think?

Enchant · Sat Dec 31, 2022 1:28 pm

Uh... I think T-Bone is last who could be solar.

They builded alibi on sending hypnosis, so FAKING it on their own teammate is on some level of boldness.

Enchant · Sat Dec 31, 2022 1:30 pm

ughhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Enchant · Sat Dec 31, 2022 1:38 pm

In post 8338, Firebringer wrote:im leaving the solving to u enchant

haha we are doomed

Enchant · Sat Dec 31, 2022 3:04 pm

Yeah i noticed afterwards. Ty though.

Enchant · Sun Jan 01, 2023 10:12 am

In post 8346, Dingle Dangle Scarecrow wrote:
In post 8333, Enchant wrote:Well i don't really want to touch this anymore.
What changed?

I meant bans, still interested in this wagon.

Enchant · Sun Jan 01, 2023 10:17 am

Aren't they get only 1-Shot

Enchant · Sun Jan 01, 2023 10:24 am

Math died after they come back.

Enchant · Sun Jan 01, 2023 10:26 am

VOTE: professotic

I have bad feeling about it.

Enchant · Sun Jan 01, 2023 10:35 am

I have no idea.

Enchant · Sun Jan 01, 2023 10:42 am

In post 8366, Dingle Dangle Scarecrow wrote:No chance it's PPF
No chance it's CSF
Magician is town
I don’t think it's you
T-Bone is probably town here?
And I'd be very surprised if FA and STD were partners. Though I suppose if this doesn't flip Lunar, that's the only place I can currently see being wrong.

Well i hammered after all so.

Enchant · Wed Jan 04, 2023 8:11 am

We are horrible wrong about something

Enchant · Thu Jan 05, 2023 12:46 am

I saw there theory about 4 lunars. I don't really hate this idea, but.

Lunars DO have something factional.

Enchant · Thu Jan 05, 2023 12:48 am

Fairly this is more aimed at target of this surviving, atleast for night.

Enchant · Thu Jan 05, 2023 1:37 am

In post 8415, Past Present Future wrote:
In post 8412, Dingle Dangle Scarecrow wrote:Nancy can you please link me your 3 most recent scum games?
Only one comes to mind that’s recent was Even Odd Killers. I was 50% of Rats.

So you was 16 of rats?

Enchant · Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:55 am

Let's try process of elimination.

Dingle Dangle Scarecrow
Magician
Enchant

Past Present Future

Impossible. Sun Attunement.
Cat Scratch Fever
Firebringer
T-Bone

^ Potential Lunars

Dingle Dangle Scarecrow

Impossible. Lunar Blessing.
Magician
Past Present Future
Cat Scratch Fever
Enchant
Firebringer
T-Bone

^ Potentional Solars

P.S. I know that i know i am not any of these teams, i mostly want to know why YOU think i am not.

Enchant · Thu Jan 05, 2023 11:17 pm

I don't remember what happened in this game and that including last day.

Enchant · Sat Jan 07, 2023 3:39 am

In post 8563, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:
In post 8559, Past Present Future wrote:@CSF, who do you think from most likely to least likely could be lunar?
Ha, that's the hard question

Town

Dingle Dangle Scarecrow
Magician
T-Bone
Firebringer
Enchant

Scum

I would feel better about this order if Magician did more stuff. T-Bone and above are town by play (or at least their predecessors were)

huh i am lunar?

Enchant · Sat Jan 07, 2023 3:48 am

i am not surprised i questioned

Enchant · Sat Jan 07, 2023 8:55 am

In post 8581, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:
In post 7065, Enchant wrote:VOTE: Ydrasse[/v]

E-2.

In post 7066, Enchant wrote:Actually why

I stay on Meuh
Enchant, another reason I thought you could be Lunar was this. I didn't understand why you were voting Meuh in the first place

Didn't really read game at that point

Enchant · Sun Jan 08, 2023 1:47 am

In post 8609, Dingle Dangle Scarecrow wrote:Bella wanted to refresh her own grasp of the MMR claim situation, so we took some time to look again properly at it.

VOTE: Past Present Future

We both feel rather confident upon discussing it together that
what MMR had was a 'vanilla' result on PPF from their passive ability
, which would mean that
PPF is lying about their role
.

Case for this coming up. I'd appreciate some eyes on this.

But "They saw PPF as Beloved Princess" is kinda possible case too?

Did PPF claim BEFORE MMR? Wait i really don't remember.

Enchant · Sun Jan 08, 2023 2:35 am

I don't get why we push PPF is we need to hunt lunars.

Enchant · Sun Jan 08, 2023 2:51 am

In post 8626, Dingle Dangle Scarecrow wrote:
In post 8622, Enchant wrote:I don't get why we push PPF is we need to hunt lunars.
Why do we need to hit Lunar today?

Why we don't

Enchant · Sun Jan 08, 2023 5:00 am

In post 8585, T-Bone wrote:Okay question for everyone but PPF.

Did MMR have a real result? Gut reaction yes or no?

It depends what you mean by real result.

But Yes i do.

Enchant · Sun Jan 08, 2023 5:02 am

Just theory.

Assuming you are PPF-Scum. Someone claims Loyan Neapolitan result on you.

... Do you try to fakeclaim something in response?

Enchant · Sun Jan 08, 2023 5:13 am

I would't. Because it's Loyal Neapolitan. So assuming i am Evil, it can't get result from me regardless if i am PR or not. So i NEED to accuse them of lying.

Nancy is not really mech sawwy though. I think "Priestess" comed after PPF got pressured for flavor name.

Still regardless of how i am hostile to PPF, i think Lunar is priority.

Enchant · Sun Jan 08, 2023 5:14 am

On other hand, accusation on PPF then seems random.

Enchant · Sun Jan 08, 2023 5:14 am

It means i have no idea.

Enchant · Sun Jan 08, 2023 5:33 am

In post 8657, Past Present Future wrote:
In post 8653, Enchant wrote:I would't. Because it's Loyal Neapolitan. So assuming i am Evil, it can't get result from me regardless if i am PR or not. So i NEED to accuse them of lying.

Nancy is not really mech sawwy though. I think "Priestess" comed after PPF got pressured for flavor name.

Still regardless of how i am hostile to PPF, i think Lunar is priority.
No not true, I had previously crumbed it, remember?

I don't remember anything lol

Not irony

Enchant · Mon Jan 09, 2023 7:41 am

ugh 2 days or so?

And all i have is "Aaaaaaaaaaaa" on random players

Enchant · Tue Jan 10, 2023 4:04 pm

I blinked and it's 14 hours

Enchant · Tue Jan 10, 2023 4:18 pm

Enchant · Fri Jan 13, 2023 5:52 am

Wdm bad kill

CSF was confirmed town.

Enchant · Fri Jan 13, 2023 5:54 am

For reference, after Firebringer flip, i do think there's 4 lunars.

Enchant · Fri Jan 13, 2023 5:58 am

Lunar seems to have many factional abilities, which they could use, some of them are limited.

I have doubts still, but think one of these could be convert.

Enchant · Fri Jan 13, 2023 6:31 am

Remember that there's additional anti-town usage on Megh which prevented CSF from saving them.

Enchant · Fri Jan 13, 2023 6:34 am

So far i think CSF protected DDS after Megh perished. So if they are not converted before, unlikely they are now.

Enchant · Fri Jan 13, 2023 6:35 am

Damn i really need to update list. Anyway consider this elo and don't vote/etc.

Enchant · Fri Jan 13, 2023 7:30 am

Fine. I actually don't care to lose to Lunar too.

Who is solar though

Enchant · Fri Jan 13, 2023 10:40 am

In post 8775, Dingle Dangle Scarecrow wrote:I think voting PPF tomorrow is optimal

I kinda wanna go Enchant -> PPF and then I think the game will be over

Maybe PPF first.

Enchant · Fri Jan 13, 2023 10:49 am

In post 8782, Dingle Dangle Scarecrow wrote:Why

Why not

Enchant · Fri Jan 13, 2023 11:06 am

In post 8784, Dingle Dangle Scarecrow wrote:Because I'd rather we have three votes at our disposal than two

Eh, i don't understand you. If it's decided that PPF or Me are last mafia, then does it matter how many votes in play.

Enchant · Fri Jan 13, 2023 11:16 am

PPF how your role EXACTLY works.

Enchant · Fri Jan 13, 2023 11:33 am

In post 8784, Dingle Dangle Scarecrow wrote:Because I'd rather we have three votes at our disposal than two

Actually it sounds informed. You seems to be know that game will not end when i perish.

Enchant · Fri Jan 13, 2023 11:36 am

You are Lunar.
PPF is Solar.

I realised everything.

Enchant · Fri Jan 13, 2023 11:47 am

Enchant · Fri Jan 13, 2023 12:53 pm

Of course you don't.

Enchant · Fri Jan 13, 2023 1:24 pm

You putting words, but i actually just suggested that PPF should go first.

And you yourself said that they are Solar, so you should had zero problem with that.

Yet, you want to kill me instead. I don't really care why: Either you want to to friendfriend with solar and force parity. Or you hope that PPF didn't lie, and it really will skip for Lunar phase, so you can just instantly finish off with 1-shot lunar kill or the fuck you have.

VOTE: PPF

I insist.

Enchant · Fri Jan 13, 2023 2:08 pm

I need both T-Bone and magician support.

Any chance i persuade you?

Enchant · Fri Jan 13, 2023 2:42 pm

Well look, i never had any problems with jumping on sword, but Lunars look weak. Like, really weak and should had compensation on it. So there's possible this compensation is additional member/convert/etc.

Ending up in possible 2vs2 is losing proposal, even assuming they work against each other.

Enchant · Fri Jan 13, 2023 2:43 pm

Fairly, there's IS flaw in this logic. Like, why Lunar just let self get killed.

Enchant · Sun Jan 15, 2023 3:50 am

hmmm

I don't really have anything to say
does it mean i lost argument

Anyway. I don't know if there's 3 lunars or 4.

If there's 3 lunars, we probably can go Me>PPF and if it's wrong, you have another shot afterwards. That's probably a win. I am not argueing with that.
If there's 4 lunars, it can and probably will lead us to lose.

I just find it how convineint that "If there's lunar it's Enchant" argument comed from. Like it does zero sense for Firebringer to sheep with most inactive player in the game regardless of their alignment and kinda yeah for some reason i buddied with every scum in game which i find hilarious. Seems like my joke about teaming up with both teams turned to be truth.

Anyway. It's not really matter if you believe i am town, it's more matter if you believe there's 4 lunar and if you think i personally are Lunar.

Enchant · Sun Jan 15, 2023 4:55 am

DDL implued i am last lunar actually.

Enchant · Sun Jan 15, 2023 8:21 am

I am not sure what to do if PPF flips Town as it implues that Magician or T-Bone are Solar.

Enchant · Sun Jan 15, 2023 8:21 am

We prob just lose idk

Enchant · Sun Jan 15, 2023 8:31 am

Hi i don't want to flip Enchant.

Enchant · Sun Jan 15, 2023 8:59 am

I see from your perspective, more over would advocate for it atf same place. But i am not on same place lol.

Anyway, as i said, it's more matter if you believe if there's even 4th Lunar. In other case, it's perfectly justified to elim me first.
Issue is i THINK there's 4th Lunar.

Enchant · Sun Jan 15, 2023 1:25 pm

Hammer happened and thread not locked?

I wonder why.

Enchant · Sun Jan 15, 2023 2:55 pm

Ok so i don't have to wait two days.

But Meh is Gabe Newell in disguise.

Enchant · Sun Jan 15, 2023 2:58 pm

Too late, Gabe

Enchant · Sun Jan 15, 2023 3:09 pm

So i was right about convert theory.

Heh.