Gnosia Game over!

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I have high hopes for gerryoat

also holy crap our mod had to replace like 36 people so far

This is my first game in like 4 years lol, I'll try to live up to it. One thing I remember from this site is that your modded games were always the best, hope you do another one soon. I have high hopes for you too lol

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MathBlade stop voting yourself

Why not?

It removes a bug world and forces LLD to refresh a known entity so no scum refresh.

Then you use your ability on someone and boom.

I fail to see the problem or where it’s anti town.

Last time I played with MathBlade they hard tunneled me when we were both town. You're living up to expectation so far by voting yourself

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I'm gonna be honest, I'm not reading 88 pages. And I won't have context for the posts at the time. What's everyone thinking so far?

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who do we vote?

narrow parking for a start.

If we insist on competing wagons,

gerryoats

not showing up when beeboy was also absent would also be a good vote.

I'm gonna be honest, I'm not reading 88 pages. And I won't have context for the posts at the time. What's everyone thinking so far?

This sounds familiar.

I'm not catching up, I am just pretending the game started on this page and any other quoted posts are meta reads.
I've been waiting and feel the need to mention this.

LOOOL beeboy was based.

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I'm gonna be honest, I'm not reading 88 pages. And I won't have context for the posts at the time. What's everyone thinking so far?

Your predecessor was

very

inactive, which is why you are in the PoE for competing wagons.
So far, your posting hasn't made me feel like it's worth putting you outside.

So basically you think my slot could be scum because of inactivity and that's your biggest read so far? Sounds very weird to me, especially when I've been given only 3 pages so far. What are your townreads then?

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VOTE: narrow parking

Why do you think narrow is scum?

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Wait a second, ranger had me as scum in 1623 which is in day 2 after Jessica flip, but she now thinks I'm not scum?

What changed?

what are your reads so far?

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I think LLD if town (which is less and less likely) has a perception of how I play versus how I do on flipless. I think anyone who is actually hunting me can see it.

What are your reads, besides the self voting thing?

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beeboy/parking/lld poe

Can you explain this poe

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Actually, with two Gnosia still alive, I'd prefer to hunt the Gnosia.

The reason for this: One Gnosia alive can't kill Enchant without forfeiting a kill.

Two Gnosia alive

can

. One makes the kill, and the other makes the next.

Enchant living is crucial to a town win, so we need Enchant to not be killed, or to cost the Gnosia their next kill.

Furthermore, two Gnosia can communicate and coordinate at night, allowing them to have two voices to optimize their kill rather than one, and potentially, help plan dayplay.

Taking a second Gnosia out here is vital. I believe {narrow parking, beeboy} have the highest chance to contain Gnosia specifically.

Narrow parking could be. Is Beeboy just cause they're not posting?

Narrow parking could be. Is Beeboy just cause they're not posting?

Mostly, yes.

Spoiler: beeboy not posting evidence

The last time the slot contributed anything was when it was Autere. This is the iso of the slot. beeboy replaced in on December 15th. 23 days ago. 3 weeks ago. 51 pages ago. beeboy claimed they wouldn't read anything before their replace-in, but do the math: there's been more content after beeboy's replacement than there was before beeboy's replacement. The game has been going longer with beeboy in it than it has been without (first 9 days).

If beeboy had flaked from the game, that level of contribution would be understandable. However, beeboy was active enough to submit a vote.

Night 2 Freeze Vote

Jada (12): Herta, ProfessorDrapion, Esooa, Mathblade, Ranger, Freedom, FakeGod, Enchant,

beeboy

, Lady Lambdadelta, Not Known 15, narrow parking,

Voting and Freezing:

1. If you do not vote before the deadline it will be counted as a self-vote.

beeboy has not flaked from the game, they submitted a vote on Jada.

And yet, in spite of the game having more content by every possible metric after beeboy's replace-in, beeboy has absolutely zero content given.

beeboy's sparse iso this game is comparable to a scumgame. It is also comparable to a different scumgame.

Near as I can tell

,

this

is a

towngame

from beeboy. Note the difference? A 3 page iso compared to two scumgames of bare minimum.

I realize beeboy has longer-iso scumgames. I realize beeboy has sparse in the way of recently completed towngames. (Most of beeboy's games have beeboy as a replace-out.)

But beeboy has no excuse for having been this absent yet having remained in the game. beeboy has contributed literally

nothing

.

Additional reasoning can be found in Jessica's iso.

Spoiler: every mention of the slot

Ranger, could you explain why you have Autere so high in your reads?

MOD MariaR:
Klick, Scoliosis, Elmo TeH AzN, Jessica Rabbit, and narrow parking are

all

in prod range.

With JunkoChan being replaced,

Six slots are absent from the game

;
That leaves only nine votes in play, when it takes eight to push an elimination through.

With it being impossible to get an elimination through without every player present voting

(which includes the scum),

can we have more than just a 24 hour extension for the deadline?

Either a freeze of it or an extension after each slot needing replacement has been filled?

You forgot Autere

mod

You also had Autere (beeboy) as well but I understood your initial Junko read more.

Hesta
Marashu
Jessica Rabbit
Elmo TeH AzN
Mathblade
Ranger
FakeGod
beeboy
Jada

What does , mean? Is higher or lower for you than ?

In particular I feel 970 is partner-indicative above all others, but all of them look partnerey.

Incidentally, I feel Jessica's lack of interaction with narrow parking also spews narrow parking as quite likely Gnosia.

I actually hate narrow parking more.
I just sheep conftown.

He didn’t even give a reason for his vote. What happened to all of the earlier wagons that stalled? Why aren’t you even a bit suspicious that I’m suddenly the lead wagon out of literally nowhere?

This is her only mention of narrow parking at all. If that were in regards to narrow parking's vote on her, this reaction is

far

more subdued than her comparable reactions to FakeGod, ProfessorDrapion, and MathBlade.

long parking's first mention of Jessica was a question mark, more seriously called null. When voting, the vote looks like a classical scum bus. 1458 indicates he may have been looking for an excuse to switch off, since it contradicts 1432.
And long parking had beeboy as town once, but has not mentioned the slot before or since.

Neither slot has done anything I've thought is town, both slots fit as scum with Jessica, both fit as scum with each other.

I'd prefer us to eliminate one of them today.

what about 970 is partnery?

theres 6 uses of that emoji used for beeboy, idk how it's specifically about him

I could vote Elmo or beeyboy, I guess. I’m not tr either.

To reiterate,

VOTE: Elmo

It was not beeboy that Jessica voted. It was Elmo.

And the two are not equal in Jessica's iso. 1289 demonstrates willingness to vote Elmo; beeboy is not mentioned.

Elmo's only mentions are 1289, 1384, and 1385 (all 3 relating to voting).

beeboy gets mentioned in 674, 781, 969, and then 1384 (none of them relating to voting except the last).

Jessica's iso is sparse in terms of alignment-indicative content except for {MathBlade, Gimli, FakeGod} all of which are hard-spewed as not-Gnosia imo, and arguably Esooa as well for the vote (altho in hindsight reading it, this isn't actually as anti-partnerey as I previously assumed).

That makes garnering content on slots outside that lot difficult, but the beeboy mention is out of place. It's not a matter of "Jessica mentioned beeboy as a lim candidate, therefore beeboy town", it's "why did Jessica mention beeboy there at all, when beeboy

wasn't

a lim candidate?" The last time there was any mention of beeboy being a vote was 1199 (unless you count my readslists, the last of which was 1308 at the time of 1384).

There was no recent content for Jessica to be interacting with suggesting beeboy was a candidate.

So why was beeboy mentioned at all?

beeboy's presence there isn't clearing of beeboy; beeboy's presence there is

inherently suspect

.

tbh, didn't really understand your previous reasons for associating them and didn't like the read on the emoji things, or that you were pushing a lot of lower posting slots, but this makes a lot more sense so don't have as much problems with that

beeboy/parking/lld poe

This line of logic doesn't really match up to me. It kind of seems like you're questioning people's scumread on my slot because of inactivity and then you suddenly have this slot in your top 3 scumreads later when it seems like everyone else is. That's why I'm asking for your reasoning. Cause your posts don't show any

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Actually, with two Gnosia still alive, I'd prefer to hunt the Gnosia.

The reason for this: One Gnosia alive can't kill Enchant without forfeiting a kill.

Two Gnosia alive

can

. One makes the kill, and the other makes the next.

Enchant living is crucial to a town win, so we need Enchant to not be killed, or to cost the Gnosia their next kill.

Furthermore, two Gnosia can communicate and coordinate at night, allowing them to have two voices to optimize their kill rather than one, and potentially, help plan dayplay.

Taking a second Gnosia out here is vital. I believe {narrow parking, beeboy} have the highest chance to contain Gnosia specifically.

Narrow parking could be. Is Beeboy just cause they're not posting?

Narrow parking could be. Is Beeboy just cause they're not posting?

Mostly, yes.

Spoiler: beeboy not posting evidence

The last time the slot contributed anything was when it was Autere. This is the iso of the slot. beeboy replaced in on December 15th. 23 days ago. 3 weeks ago. 51 pages ago. beeboy claimed they wouldn't read anything before their replace-in, but do the math: there's been more content after beeboy's replacement than there was before beeboy's replacement. The game has been going longer with beeboy in it than it has been without (first 9 days).

If beeboy had flaked from the game, that level of contribution would be understandable. However, beeboy was active enough to submit a vote.

Night 2 Freeze Vote

Jada (12): Herta, ProfessorDrapion, Esooa, Mathblade, Ranger, Freedom, FakeGod, Enchant,

beeboy

, Lady Lambdadelta, Not Known 15, narrow parking,

Voting and Freezing:

1. If you do not vote before the deadline it will be counted as a self-vote.

beeboy has not flaked from the game, they submitted a vote on Jada.

And yet, in spite of the game having more content by every possible metric after beeboy's replace-in, beeboy has absolutely zero content given.

beeboy's sparse iso this game is comparable to a scumgame. It is also comparable to a different scumgame.

Near as I can tell

,

this

is a

towngame

from beeboy. Note the difference? A 3 page iso compared to two scumgames of bare minimum.

I realize beeboy has longer-iso scumgames. I realize beeboy has sparse in the way of recently completed towngames. (Most of beeboy's games have beeboy as a replace-out.)

But beeboy has no excuse for having been this absent yet having remained in the game. beeboy has contributed literally

nothing

.

Additional reasoning can be found in Jessica's iso.

Spoiler: every mention of the slot

Ranger, could you explain why you have Autere so high in your reads?

MOD MariaR:
Klick, Scoliosis, Elmo TeH AzN, Jessica Rabbit, and narrow parking are

all

in prod range.

With JunkoChan being replaced,

Six slots are absent from the game

;
That leaves only nine votes in play, when it takes eight to push an elimination through.

With it being impossible to get an elimination through without every player present voting

(which includes the scum),

can we have more than just a 24 hour extension for the deadline?

Either a freeze of it or an extension after each slot needing replacement has been filled?

You forgot Autere

mod

You also had Autere (beeboy) as well but I understood your initial Junko read more.

Hesta
Marashu
Jessica Rabbit
Elmo TeH AzN
Mathblade
Ranger
FakeGod
beeboy
Jada

What does , mean? Is higher or lower for you than ?

In particular I feel 970 is partner-indicative above all others, but all of them look partnerey.

Incidentally, I feel Jessica's lack of interaction with narrow parking also spews narrow parking as quite likely Gnosia.

I actually hate narrow parking more.
I just sheep conftown.

He didn’t even give a reason for his vote. What happened to all of the earlier wagons that stalled? Why aren’t you even a bit suspicious that I’m suddenly the lead wagon out of literally nowhere?

This is her only mention of narrow parking at all. If that were in regards to narrow parking's vote on her, this reaction is

far

more subdued than her comparable reactions to FakeGod, ProfessorDrapion, and MathBlade.

long parking's first mention of Jessica was a question mark, more seriously called null. When voting, the vote looks like a classical scum bus. 1458 indicates he may have been looking for an excuse to switch off, since it contradicts 1432.
And long parking had beeboy as town once, but has not mentioned the slot before or since.

Neither slot has done anything I've thought is town, both slots fit as scum with Jessica, both fit as scum with each other.

I'd prefer us to eliminate one of them today.

what about 970 is partnery?

theres 6 uses of that emoji used for beeboy, idk how it's specifically about him

I could vote Elmo or beeyboy, I guess. I’m not tr either.

To reiterate,

VOTE: Elmo

It was not beeboy that Jessica voted. It was Elmo.

And the two are not equal in Jessica's iso. 1289 demonstrates willingness to vote Elmo; beeboy is not mentioned.

Elmo's only mentions are 1289, 1384, and 1385 (all 3 relating to voting).

beeboy gets mentioned in 674, 781, 969, and then 1384 (none of them relating to voting except the last).

Jessica's iso is sparse in terms of alignment-indicative content except for {MathBlade, Gimli, FakeGod} all of which are hard-spewed as not-Gnosia imo, and arguably Esooa as well for the vote (altho in hindsight reading it, this isn't actually as anti-partnerey as I previously assumed).

That makes garnering content on slots outside that lot difficult, but the beeboy mention is out of place. It's not a matter of "Jessica mentioned beeboy as a lim candidate, therefore beeboy town", it's "why did Jessica mention beeboy there at all, when beeboy

wasn't

a lim candidate?" The last time there was any mention of beeboy being a vote was 1199 (unless you count my readslists, the last of which was 1308 at the time of 1384).

There was no recent content for Jessica to be interacting with suggesting beeboy was a candidate.

So why was beeboy mentioned at all?

beeboy's presence there isn't clearing of beeboy; beeboy's presence there is

inherently suspect

.

tbh, didn't really understand your previous reasons for associating them and didn't like the read on the emoji things, or that you were pushing a lot of lower posting slots, but this makes a lot more sense so don't have as much problems with that

beeboy/parking/lld poe

This line of logic doesn't really match up to me. It kind of seems like you're questioning people's scumread on my slot because of inactivity and then you suddenly have this slot in your top 3 scumreads later when it seems like everyone else is. That's why I'm asking for your reasoning. Cause your posts don't show any

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Sorry for the double post, not quite sure how that happened.

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VOTE: narrow parking

Why do you think narrow is scum?

we have one day until the gameday ends and this is the only wagon

If this wasn't the case who would you be willing to vote and why?

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roden/ranger/narrow parking was my POE

explanations were in pg 87 or something

I see them now, thanks. Who do you think is town so far?

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I just realised something.
Gerry needs to claim their ability before this Day ends, for the massclaim.

Has everyone claimed their ability already?

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On the other hand, you seem pretty solvey

You and I have very different standards for solvey as gerryoats' posts have a different word I'd use to describe them. (Shading.)

Shading how? I'm going based on what I've seen in the past 5 pages or so.

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Is there a list of ability claims?

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I just realised something.
Gerry needs to claim their ability before this Day ends, for the massclaim.

Has everyone claimed their ability already?

Name and character yes.

Shading how? I'm going based on what I've seen in the past 5 pages or so.

I've no better word for posts which weren't scumhunting yet attack others for their read on you.

You seem more concerned with discrediting those suspect of you rather than sorting them.

You're ignoring the fact I've asked others for their scumreads not just their scumread on me.

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I'm so lost in this game.

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I'm so lost in this game.

Read the first couple of pages and the setup post I just posted. You are in the poe for gnosia.

Well then, your reads aren't good. Nice to know

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I think it's possible that mafia shot at Roden night 1 and failed their kill?

Makes sense

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Is it someone's ability to make everyone vote narrow or did everyone just vote narrow

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Is it someone's ability to make everyone vote narrow or did everyone just vote narrow

I think everybody just voted narrow.

Thing is, I didn't... Yet it showed that I did. Which means someone moved my vote. Not sure how much relevance it is, but likely someone is lying about their power. Either way, I think mafia was probably given fake claims anyway.

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Mafia is in the group of people wanting mass claims. Makes no sense to mass claim, just helps scum kill PRs

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Technically all mafia could be alive still correct?

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Massclaiming was such a bad play. Kudos to maf.

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Nice

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Who do we vote first

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okay... so who do you want me to target with this thing?

Who do you wanna freeze first?

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still dont know why my vote was redirected last night

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Interesting

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Interesting

What is your opinion on Math?

Not sure, he's kinda just all over the place.

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interesting..

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I think it's someone's ability. Cause I didn't vote for who it said yesterday

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I see no cases being made

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anyone else?

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True

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I'm probably going to die tonight so

jerryoat

you need to carry the team to victory okay?

Yep, I got my list of who to freeze.

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nice

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oh darn. GGs