Mystery Mafia 2- Game Over! But who won!?

[TonyMontana]

Hello, just popping in to welcome myself into the game -.-

[TonyMontana]

1

Because I ain't afraid to see where this rabbit hole goes.

After long and careful consideration of the arguments, I'm gonna go with

Vote: lord_hur

[TonyMontana]

I support this string of reasoning.

Vote:Patrick

[TonyMontana]

unvote

I'm sorry, I didn't catch the whole vengeful part (as in had to read up on the role) and isn't it blatantly obvious that ashmite killed DGB and Dasquian?
I see the argument for a wolf, but not an explanation for a ashmites role in that scenario...

[TonyMontana]

I think this is lynch -1 or lynch -2 now. If anyone else plans on voting Patrick, please wait until everyone said what he wanted to say.

Everyone

said

... what

he

wanted to say.... *brain-pain*

And that would be L-1, yes. I agree that Patrick is the lynch for today. There scenario he proposes where he's innocent just doesn't hold water. And there's no way we can conclude the argument without getting him out of the way, so we might as well get it over with.
I'll reserve the opportunity to hammer, we still have over a week to bicker..

[TonyMontana]

I'm no authority on English, it isn't my first language either, but I don't think that's proper grammar, no

[TonyMontana]

What changed from "it's blatantly obvious ashmite killed DGB and Dasquian" to "the scenario he proposes where he's innocent just doesn't hold water?" You proposed the scenario where I'm innocent too - in fact you seemed to imply it was very likely.

First of all, I was asking. "Isn't it" ≠ "it is".
I had misread, and was under the impression that ashmite was killed during the same night, not lynched the day before. Thus your theory made impeccable sense, which was why I was asking if it wasn't obvious. Realizing he was lynched the day before the night he was supposed to make the second kill certainly put some holes in the scenario.

TonyMontana unvoted me when there was still easy pressure against me, which is something I think scum would be less likely to do. His revote is sketchy, pending possible explanation. Might be town, but still not much data.

What revote?

[TonyMontana]

Beer me

[TonyMontana]

Can I retract my order for a beer?

Cause if I can, I still won't. I love beer too much.

[TonyMontana]

Happy birthday, BM.

Also, there's enough coins left for a shotgun. I suggest we give it to Patrick.......NOT

[TonyMontana]

Pussies.
Is he still playing his game, cause if so:

2

[TonyMontana]

Oh, Landlord, I'll take another pint, if it's on the house -.-

[TonyMontana]

3

I can understand people's unwillingness to play along, given the last quirky game they played, but I expect my participation to bring me wealth and fortune.

It reminds me of how the officers played us when I was in the military. One day they would ask who could drive a car and wanted to do a fun errand. A lot of hands shot up, and of course the winner got to do some boring-ass cleaning job.

The next time they ask for volunteers, there's a noticable lack of hands showing, until one guy finally steps forward and gets the rest of the day off.

True story.

[TonyMontana]

Meh... they get off on the power..

[TonyMontana]

Yay, another participant.

5

I'm starting to think this might be some kind of hot potato game, where the one who quotes the right number wins the whole game. Or dies.

[TonyMontana]

It's noteworthy, actually, how the whole patrick thing has allowed everyone, and i mean everyone, to stop scumhunting entirely.

It annoys me immensely to not be able to remedy this right now.

Relax, have a drink, and enjoy the barphase.

also, quote some numbers.

7

[TonyMontana]

Landlord is blowing up a storm in my pint.

10

[TonyMontana]

I take it the vote count has been reset then?

[TonyMontana]

So, suppose in theory the item I had was able to vig someone. Would anyone oppose to me smashing Patrick over the head? Or is there any other request for me to kill?

Que?
Are you saying you *do* have vig ability?

[TonyMontana]

Well, I don't think it would be.
But anyway, it's awesome that the seemingly pointless empty glass turned out to give an ability. -.-

I'm interested in hearing what the shotgun did for farside.

I'm still glad I had a beer. I ♥ beer.

[TonyMontana]

EBWOP: But let's assume that it is deadly, i.e. don't be using it on someone you wouldn't mind being dead.

[TonyMontana]

BOTOMS up!

[TonyMontana]

Tony: What does the beer do?

Helps ugly people get laid.

Otherwise, nothing.

[TonyMontana]

Smash forbiddanlight over the head with my empty glass

Hah!, you should've had some good ol' beer in the empty glass of yours.

[TonyMontana]

Just testing you.... Seeing as you were the one who suggested that you should have done the same to patrick, I can't exactly say your response clears you, but I'm willing to give you the benefit of the doubt...

[TonyMontana]

Vote: MafiaSSK

It's like 2 hours till deadline.

[TonyMontana]

MafiaSSK

Why not finish what we started yesterday...

[TonyMontana]

Unvote

Maybe we should take a second to talk about the lack of kills tonight?
Could it be that the drunkards were out of play throughout the night, and that explains it?

[TonyMontana]

I also find it interesting Tony Montana started the "Finish what we started yesterday" thing and then suddenly 180s on it. What happened?

2 people jumped on the wagon. I didn't 180, I just backed off to stop a quick lynch.

[TonyMontana]

I don't know what other people were thinking, but I certainly was not considering you drunkards being targets, if you catch my drift.

[TonyMontana]

Bit late, but what's a JFK?

It's an airport... ¬¬

[TonyMontana]

Bit late, but what's a JFK?

It's an airport... ¬¬

Also, a dead president.

Yeah.. he was named after the airport, right?

[TonyMontana]

vote: MafiasSK

Fuck it, I'm not buying it.

[TonyMontana]

Screw the order thing, if we're gonna hypo, everyone should just do it right now as soon as they can, seeing as we are 4 days from deadline.

I targeted Lawrence.... or not.

Did I do that right?

[TonyMontana]

[face_palm]

[TonyMontana]

So, it's pretty obvious, at least to me, that we need to

Vote Tony Montana

as per the Fonz' block.

Whaa?

[TonyMontana]

Oh I see..
That's ridiculous.. Why would I possibly do that?

[TonyMontana]

"You might also want to avoid mentioning the recent series of accidental deaths... "

anyone got an idea what this means?

I took it as a joke.
Don't tell our new residents that they might be killed, harhar.

[TonyMontana]

Oh I see..
That's ridiculous.. Why would I possibly do that?

Do what?

Well, forbiddanlight is apparantly proposing that since The Fonz said he targeted me in the hypoclaim, he must have blocked a killattempt by me the previous night, and therefore I must have killed the fonz, because I knew he blocked my kill.

First of all, I am not scum, and there was nothing to block.
Secondly, elvis also said he targeted me.
Thirdly, what do you take me for, some kind of putz?

I think forbiddanlight was just a little to quick to put together this hypothesis, and Lawrence just a little to eager to jump on.

And don't get me started on that bastard, landlord.

[TonyMontana]

Yeah, and WIFOM is a two-way street. Or actually an 8 lane intersection...

Just love it when people pull out WIFOM to back up their own agenda. That's kind of the point with WIFOM, isn't it, that you can't really end the argument.

[TonyMontana]

It is possible though that forbiddanlight killed the Fonz to make you look bad, but you look bad to me even if you didn't kill the Fonz.

Well, forbiddanlight, nor noone else could know that fonz was a roleblocker, so I don't think it's plausible that anyone set me up in that regard.

[TonyMontana]

Either one of these three was blocked from making a kill and is therefor scum, or was protected as town and prevented the kill. I'm not sure any of those would have gotten a doc protect, but I guess it's possible.

There's still the possibility that there was no kill that night because lawrence was still out cold from the drinking.

I'm still pretty sure landlord is BM...

[TonyMontana]

elvis' logic looks good to me.

Vote: TonyMontana

while I reread.

Yeah, nice, put me at L-2 while you reread. ¬¬

[TonyMontana]

Also, elvis_knits logic is horrible.

TM: lawrence

(has said that fonz didn't stop him from killing because "there was nothing to block" which means he has no night action or is lying)

FL:SSK

(SSK dead town)
farside:litral
EK:TM

lawrence:landlord

(landlord is BM)
fonz:TM
litral:farside

SSK:nobody

How does SSK being town eliminate FL as doc?
Why is Litral not striked, for being dead?
Whether landlord is BM or not, that doesn't mean lawrence couldn't have blocked a kill (The fact that Lawrence was absent does, tho)

So the possible reasons for the lack of kills: (In no particular order)
1. No kills made.
2. Lawrence out of play.
3. Forbiddanlight protecting SSK
4. Lawrence protecting landlord
5. Elvis protecting me
6. Farside protecting litral.
and to be fair to the uninformed:
7. The fonz blocking me.

So I don't see how Tony thinks he got set up in this case when Fonz flips townie.

Only time i mentioned a set-up, was when I said how I didn't think a set-up was possible.
All I'm saying is that fonz blocking me stopped no kill, and it's only 1 out of 7 possible explanations for the lack of a kill.

[TonyMontana]

EBWOP: "the fact that lawrence

might have been

absent"

[TonyMontana]

My reason for leaning to Tony is I know what a role blocker does and I know a role blocker targeted Tony.

Not even I

knows

for certain that fonz actually blocked me.

I have done my reread and I am going to put you at L-1 and ask for a claim. We need maximum time to digest anything you say.

I have already said that there was nothing to block from me. I'm just vanilla.

Vote:Lawrencelot

I don't think it was a coincidence that there was no kills on the night following the absence of the L's. And it's way more likely than the prospect of a doc save.

[TonyMontana]

The fact that there is possibly a doc AND an RB does not work against the plan- it makes it harder for the scum to know who to shoot at, since they don't know which was the actual stopper.

This made no sense. Of course the scum would know who stopped the kill. Except if both his target and himself was targeted in the hypo, it's a pretty clean cut case isn't it?

This just reaffirms my belief that Lawrence missed his shot at a kill.

[TonyMontana]

Well you miss that multiple people claimed to have 'targeted' you - meaning if you were scum you wouldn't know for sure which person was responsible.

True

[TonyMontana]

All i was saying was that it isn't *fact* until the nightactions are revealed.
Semantics aside, I don't believe that fonz lied.

[TonyMontana]

All i was saying was that it isn't *fact* until the nightactions are revealed.
Semantics aside, I don't believe that fonz lied.

There is no reason for a townie to lie about his action. I think more and more Fonz wanted the hypo claim out just in case something like this happened.

vote: TonyMontana

First of all, that's L-1

Secondly, why does it matter what fonz wanted? He didn't know if his blocked stopped a kill, no more than you all know.

Townspeople, on and off my wagon, don't let the scum get away with this lynch.

[TonyMontana]

I am me, that is all you need to know.

I think we should lynch this guy...

[TonyMontana]

Nooooooooooooooooooooo

My perfect record of never being lynched is ruined.

I'm a miller, btw... Ironic, since I was worried being miller would be my downfall.

Hope you people consider Lawrence a little more seriously now... not to mention that everyone who voted me are a bunch of scums in my eyes.

*mourns his first lynch*

[TonyMontana]

Damn you BM, for ruining my nolynch streak :p