Weird Dreams Mafia I [Gone]

[Enchant]

HURT: Enchant

Mmm power

[Enchant]

Why wouldn't you vote self in nightmare?

[Enchant]

VOTE: DragonEater

Bad vote even for RVS.

[Enchant]

You should put me in, otherwise these idiots will try to use vig.

[Enchant]

You should put me in, otherwise these idiots will try to use vig.

Do you feel vig is a negative utility role?

No.

[Enchant]

HURT: Save The Dragons, KawaiiKame, Temporal Lich, Gimli, Empath, DragonEater

Btw Gimli I think is town because, from a mech standpoint, being hated only makes sense for town (basically makes ELo more dangerous) but doesn't work really with scum. Of course it could be a red herring though.
And nightmarin' myself because I'm conftown in my eyes.

I surprise you, but in most cases roles like these doesh't work in ELO so your logic are faulty.

[Enchant]

Because it forces police elimination on player which is unfun.

Mod probably say it. In Role PM. Did you ask Gimli?

[Enchant]

I don't know who thinked that OMGUS is scummy and writed this on wiki (now people parrot this as universal scumread without thinking), but if someone thinks that selfvoting for PR is scummy, then they DESERVE the vote in response.

[Enchant]

I got fed up by this from coalition and i will be mad if you force me to go in this again.

[Enchant]

Of course

[Enchant]

It's obviously not RVS vote and even if is, it sucks.

[Enchant]

I never said it's RVS vote, i said even if it's RVS vote it sucks.

[Enchant]

Why i even trying.

[Enchant]

What exactly i need to control.

[Enchant]

If you were really scum you'd already know the answer to that question

pedit: I'm not seeing what you're seeing Empathice

So if i am scum i know answer and if i am town i don't know answer and you refuse to give me any. Because i am confirmed scum already and therefore not worth answering.

Makes sense. Now piss off.

[Enchant]

Only invention worth giving away first night is Friendly Neighbour.

[Enchant]

imo either vig or FN is good

Didn't read further.

[Enchant]

Eh.

If you give FN for someone and they scum, they are forced to lie that teammate received message or die or pretend to be roleblocked.

First is gradually risky for obvious reason.

[Enchant]

Vig get less useful the later in the game

Oh shut up already

[Enchant]

It's still bad

[Enchant]

It's still bad

Idk.

I also don't like how you present yourself as tryong to avoid a vig trollshot when knowing you, you would give yourself vigshot at first opportunity.

Anyone would give self vigshot at first opportunity because they are smartest/deserved it/it's funny/insert reason, it doesh't mean it's best for town.

[Enchant]

As only voice of reason i am going in nightmare.

[Enchant]

Why i would't care

[Enchant]

Jeez i don't want vigilante...

... no i mean i want it.

No i mean everyone want it. Including me. But i have composure to NOT abuse vig and choose something better instead.

[Enchant]

enchant very likely town

why do you townread enchant?

I don't really see how enchant could be towny especially since enchant has no reads other than scumreading dragoneater for voting enchant because enchant self nightmare voted

yeah that was a good post I think. scumreading dragoneater's RVS vote and whatnot, I agree it was a bad vote even for RVS. I think enchant feels engaged and happy with the game in a way that mirrors his town game well. but its early, I'm just strong townreading it atm.

I actually agree that it was a bad RVS vote but since when do you scumread ppl for bad RVS vote? At best Enchant's counter vote is another bad RVS vote.

Issue is i am bad player.

You should had knew better.

[Enchant]

So guys i think we are in cult game.

[Enchant]

Gimli does it work in ELO

[Enchant]

well gimli is negative utility for town we can't keep him alive in ELO

[Enchant]

What i should tell you

[Enchant]

Idk i remember town!ranger also put me as scum in Gnosia, but tried to kill me more actively than that.

[Enchant]

I think using abbreviations is TSTIAS

[Enchant]

I'm curious why exactly I come across like im forcing a townread on Dragon to Ranger. And also prolly why Ranger has Enchant so low

DragonEater was not under severe pressure, and the push was one with a weak enough basis that focusing on it as you did seems unnatural. It was overblown. It was out of place. It wasn't something casually done, or done to make a point. It looked like you went out of your way to defend DragonEater, in a way I don't think town would be inclined to.

Enchant is so low because Enchant's contributions have looked strongly +scum to me. The reasons for defense of Enchant boil down to meta, but those meta defenses of Enchant seem lazy at best, disingenuous at worst. I don't think people being truly honest with themselves have conviction Enchant's contributions are definitively town. I can understand them

viewing

his posts as town. I can understand them having a surface-level take on Enchant which they don't bother to dig deeper on at this stage.

But from what I've seen, Enchant is not outside of his scum range, and his contributions have been suspect.

Why wouldn't I have him so low?

I can understand disagreeing with the meta but what has Enchant at the bottom of your possible suspects at the bottom of your reads since P4 onwards to present

Enchant's contributions have been forced in a way I feel is likely scum-indicative. I'm not seeing anything which looks remotely town from Enchant, and I see plenty which looks like scum. Given me not buying the meta defense, I've no reason to not have him that low as meta is his

only

defense for his play right now.

Idk i remember town!ranger also put me as scum in Gnosia, but tried to kill me more actively than that.

You hard-1v1d the cop who I fully believed to be the real cop, that made it much easier.
After your retraction I retracted my scumread there because you were no longer confscum.

Speaking of that game, you were scum there and your contributions here remind me of your contributions there, so...

I joked about being traitor, i was actually town.

It just happened that role list was never released so you never knew.

Game is also ridiculously bastard. Who makes OPEN SETUP and then "hey you know i silently make one of roles modified".

Haha very funny.

[Enchant]

I am confused

[Enchant]

I am not convinced that Dragon is town

[Enchant]

I played with Ranger two times.

Gnosia: Both town.
I made this setup in 2021(or something): Both Mafia, but different teams. We knew each other though.

[Enchant]

High chance it's not MT ability.

[Enchant]

I am bored can we kill someone already

[Enchant]

VOTE: Kyoko

Yeah why not

[Enchant]

I don't see it being a protown move for MT to force herself into the nightmare

why

[Enchant]

I am simple person

Someone ignores me i don't care

VOTE: imaginality

[Enchant]

Yeah i am not unvoting.

[Enchant]

I guess i am not in nightmare, but if you decide to use vig, DON'T.

[Enchant]

I could say only once, but...
Oh well.

[Enchant]

What

[Enchant]

I targeted Clone btw.

[Enchant]

Good work from Korina in convincing mods to play along and ban Clone so it looks like real deal.