mystery box of silver 15: i'm killing hostages (negotiated)
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Ranger She/Her{Top Tier}She/Her
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{Skygazer}AKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgangGame History"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."- RadiantCowbells |"Ranger's been town in most of them."- Plotinus
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VOTE: DKKoba
Because why not.AKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgangGame History"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."- RadiantCowbells |"Ranger's been town in most of them."- Plotinus
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P1AKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgangGame History"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."- RadiantCowbells |"Ranger's been town in most of them."- Plotinus
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P2AKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgangGame History"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."- RadiantCowbells |"Ranger's been town in most of them."- Plotinus
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Current.AKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgangGame History"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."- RadiantCowbells |"Ranger's been town in most of them."- Plotinus
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I'll believe that.In post 67, Morning Tweet wrote:Pooky is 100% not mafia because hes doing the thing
Be townier. :PIn post 69, HighPrincessErinys wrote:Damn, ouch.
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P3.AKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgangGame History"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."- RadiantCowbells |"Ranger's been town in most of them."- Plotinus
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You're neither low nor high, honestly. Most slots are varying shades of null; yours is the closest to true null.In post 78, MUSHSHAGANA wrote:I don't know why I'm so low.
It's been a while since we played together, yet the HighPrincessErinys I played with last, I remember instantly provided townvibes absent here. Granted, IIn post 78, MUSHSHAGANA wrote:Also, if you could explain your thoughts on HPE being bottomed out, I'd appreciate it.wasscum. Still, this HPE felt somehow different.
The only three slots I really am interested in voting are {DKKoba, xyzzy, HPE} rn.AKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgangGame History"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."- RadiantCowbells |"Ranger's been town in most of them."- Plotinus
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P5AKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgangGame History"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."- RadiantCowbells |"Ranger's been town in most of them."- Plotinus
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It's weak, but he vibes town so far.In post 124, ofrhz wrote:Why is the dr. drew town for instance?AKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgangGame History"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."- RadiantCowbells |"Ranger's been town in most of them."- Plotinus
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This is basically rvs, of course it's a nonanswer. I'm not going to lie and say I've locked a read on someone when all my reads are weak.In post 153, ofrhz wrote:
This is basically a non answerIn post 149, Ranger wrote:
It's weak, but he vibes town so far.In post 124, ofrhz wrote:Why is the dr. drew town for instance?AKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgangGame History"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."- RadiantCowbells |"Ranger's been town in most of them."- Plotinus
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Forgot to mention this earlier;
V/LA Sunday - Monday for remainder of month;
V/LA unspecified indefinitely;
V/LA this week through Saturday
Work for the first, helping friend for the second, and wedding prep for the third.
I'll be completely unavailable tomorrow.
My hope is to provide content today. I might not succeed. If so, it'll be delayed until Wednesday.AKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgangGame History"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."- RadiantCowbells |"Ranger's been town in most of them."- Plotinus
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P7.AKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgangGame History"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."- RadiantCowbells |"Ranger's been town in most of them."- Plotinus
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P8.AKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgangGame History"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."- RadiantCowbells |"Ranger's been town in most of them."- Plotinus
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P9.AKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgangGame History"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."- RadiantCowbells |"Ranger's been town in most of them."- Plotinus
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P10.AKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgangGame History"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."- RadiantCowbells |"Ranger's been town in most of them."- Plotinus
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P11.AKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgangGame History"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."- RadiantCowbells |"Ranger's been town in most of them."- Plotinus
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P12.AKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgangGame History"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."- RadiantCowbells |"Ranger's been town in most of them."- Plotinus
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Recency bias. I've not seen xyzzy post more recently to see their scumminess. I hadn't seen HighPrincessErinys post recently to see their scumminess. I did see you and ofrhz post. I also have seen the interactions of you with other slots, and the caliber of the players who scumread you, as well as their cases. In particular, I believe Pooky's was good.In post 378, DkKoba wrote:ranger stop reading, explain your progression on my slot. now.
xyzzy will likely plummet down the moment I see them post again and am reminded why I put them so low.AKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgangGame History"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."- RadiantCowbells |"Ranger's been town in most of them."- Plotinus
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P13.AKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgangGame History"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."- RadiantCowbells |"Ranger's been town in most of them."- Plotinus
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P14.AKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgangGame History"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."- RadiantCowbells |"Ranger's been town in most of them."- Plotinus
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I know nothing of you, yet you look like scum.In post 369, ofrhz wrote:Hi Ranger, would you like to put your read of me into words?AKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgangGame History"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."- RadiantCowbells |"Ranger's been town in most of them."- Plotinus
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Meuh naturally vibes as town.In post 374, DkKoba wrote:why is meuh so much higher than me
You radiate scum.AKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgangGame History"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."- RadiantCowbells |"Ranger's been town in most of them."- Plotinus
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P15.AKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgangGame History"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."- RadiantCowbells |"Ranger's been town in most of them."- Plotinus
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Nah. That's effort. If asked about a change in reads between two pages, I'm happy to share, within my capacities. Otherwise, don't see the point.In post 376, DkKoba wrote:link to actual in game stuff plsAKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgangGame History"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."- RadiantCowbells |"Ranger's been town in most of them."- Plotinus
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There's enough of one for me.In post 384, DkKoba wrote:there is no case against me
I think your posting's scum. My reason's gut. I don't need more, tbh.AKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgangGame History"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."- RadiantCowbells |"Ranger's been town in most of them."- Plotinus
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His read matched mine, that was enough to trust it. Reads build off each other.In post 388, DkKoba wrote:like u clearly havent actually read what pooky has said bc he didnt actually have a scumread when he initially pushed me LMAO so wondering where the trust came fromAKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgangGame History"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."- RadiantCowbells |"Ranger's been town in most of them."- Plotinus
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It tracked, I saw you scum independently, so I believe it has merit.In post 390, DkKoba wrote:ranger, please explain to me why you thought this was a good caseAKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgangGame History"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."- RadiantCowbells |"Ranger's been town in most of them."- Plotinus
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Objectively, sure.In post 392, DkKoba wrote:ngl i also dont get the strong townread on pooky bc pooky has not towntold yet
I vibe him town.AKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgangGame History"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."- RadiantCowbells |"Ranger's been town in most of them."- Plotinus
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The posts you say are town, I see the opposite on. For Alisae, I just don't think eir scum this game. Honestly hard to put words to that read. It's fairly solid, yet indescribable. I've reasons, just not ones I know how to explain rn.In post 396, DkKoba wrote:their posts are townier than several players you put in your upper half, including alisae for instance:AKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgangGame History"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."- RadiantCowbells |"Ranger's been town in most of them."- Plotinus
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Honestly, all of them. (I really hate that response, yet it applies.) Everything I've seen has made me think scum, not town. It's possible I'm biased. Still, I see what I see and I don't see anything town about you rn.In post 397, DkKoba wrote:which posts radiate scum?AKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgangGame History"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."- RadiantCowbells |"Ranger's been town in most of them."- Plotinus
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Depends on perspective, honestly. I make snap judgement calls and place people accordingly. Anything can change at any time. None of my reads are particularly solid, not even the scumread on you. I don't see the town vibes from you and see consistent scum vibes. Despite this, you're far weaker a scumread than players I've scumread in other games who IIn post 403, DkKoba wrote:can't explain ur reads bc theyre not real and just arbitrary tbhdidsee the townvibes of. There's players I've seen as more town than you who I scumread more than you. In that sense they're very arbitrary.
This said, you've seen my games before. I know you have. You're pretending you haven't. So rn, you're being disingenuous. You already know the process I operate by.AKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgangGame History"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."- RadiantCowbells |"Ranger's been town in most of them."- Plotinus
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Well yeah. We're still in early game. If someone claims they've got a slam-dunk case for scumreading someone, they're lying. Everything's weak rn. Gut's the most valid reason for a scumread at this stage. We're slowly transitioning out of that with posts like this though, as I believe this was a bad faith argument.In post 416, ofrhz wrote:393 and 394 are just tautologies
"Why do you scumread me"
"Because you look like scum"AKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgangGame History"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."- RadiantCowbells |"Ranger's been town in most of them."- Plotinus
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Eh, I guess. You're respectably competent. You've excellent knowledge on particular players. You've good insights. You had a read I resonated with. I suppose that qualifies as thinking you're awesome.In post 435, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:I think ranger thinks I'm awesomeAKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgangGame History"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."- RadiantCowbells |"Ranger's been town in most of them."- Plotinus
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I don't recall claiming there was anything different.In post 440, DkKoba wrote:what is different this game from ur scumgames?
I recall stating you're familiar with my play enough to know your accusations are nonsense.
I'm unable to judge the difference between my games. That's reserved exclusively for others. I've a right to intervene when someone is deliberately and disingenuously pushing me on something they know is playstyle. I casually tryhard. Minimal effort. A lot of what I do is subject to both whims and rl restrictions. If I don't feel like doing something, I won't. If I do, I will.AKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgangGame History"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."- RadiantCowbells |"Ranger's been town in most of them."- Plotinus
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Nice try. That was a game from nine years ago. I'm quite literally a different person now. While I imagine there's aspects of my scumgame from then which survived the transition, it's certainly not the argument you're making it out to be and you know it.In post 446, DkKoba wrote: viewtopic.php?t=66605&user_select%5B%5D=26805 ranger scumgame, u can see they do the same silly "just trust me" reads where they just say call things "towny" or "scummy"AKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgangGame History"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."- RadiantCowbells |"Ranger's been town in most of them."- Plotinus
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I don't recall stating I'm incapable of elaborating on reads. I certainly can. I'm never obligated to.In post 447, DkKoba wrote:an example of town ranger actually capable of elaborating on a readAKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgangGame History"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."- RadiantCowbells |"Ranger's been town in most of them."- Plotinus
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I certainly can. It's called the vast majority of my games, rather than cherrypicking whatever suits your fancy to support your argument.In post 456, DkKoba wrote:i provided proof my accusations are not nonsense, burden of proof is on you, dont try to deflect
I've given plenty of nonanswers before as town, and plenty of reasons before as scum. In fact, were I to actually compile my past game history, the vast majority of nonanswers would be from town and the vast majority of reasons would be from scum. I certainly could prove this. I see no reason to when literally anyone who's played with me (yourself included) knows it, and could research it themselves if they cared to.
I've been called out on seemingly-random changes in my readslists before. When called out, my response in all past games has been the same; if a change between them catches your eye, ask what shifted and I'll happily share. I'm not going to effort by explaining the change otherwise.AKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgangGame History"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."- RadiantCowbells |"Ranger's been town in most of them."- Plotinus
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It certainly can be. I'm not one to judge. However, selecting meta from one of my first scumgames onsite rather than my most recent one is sure an interesting choice. I can literally point to evidence from that game of my play this game being nothing remotely like my play here. There's certainly some similarities, which have survived the test of time. Still, arguing as you have is akin to saying "Ranger made repeatedly changing readslists in an old scumgame, Ranger is making repeatedly changing readslists in this game, therefore Ranger is scum".In post 464, DkKoba wrote:old meta is still relevant meta.
While I've no say on how players judge my meta, I can certainly point the egregious nature of cherrypicking specific aspects from my oldest scumgame and arguing those playstyle elements being present indicate I'm scum here. I was quite literally, not figuratively, literally a different person back then. I remember precious little of my Blitz-era game days, because I wasn't playing them. Our system has undergone massive changes. Pretending those can be ignored and cherrypicking one instance of a vague similarity is disingenuous, and we know you know better than that.AKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgangGame History"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."- RadiantCowbells |"Ranger's been town in most of them."- Plotinus
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I respect the other players in the game.In post 465, DkKoba wrote:you certainly are obligated to elaborate if you respect the other players in the game
I respect my time and life more than those of others in a forum mafia game. My obligation is to my life first and a game only as I can.AKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgangGame History"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."- RadiantCowbells |"Ranger's been town in most of them."- Plotinus
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This is my bad. I may have misunderstood the meaning of tautology.In post 468, ofrhz wrote: Your reasoning is just circular, hence tautology
I'll say my reasoning isn't circular. "Why do you scumread me" "because you look like scum" isn't inherently circular. We can go into theory if you'd prefer; I believe you want this to be the focus of the discussion though:
It is gut. I could probably point out what pinged. Right now, I don't feel like it. It's too much effort at this moment. I'll not give you false hopes and say "perhaps another time". There might not be any time I feel like it. I'll say if I feel like pointing out what pinged my gut, I will.In post 468, ofrhz wrote: I never said you had to have a slam dunk case on me or anyone else and I don't expect people to at this point, but if it's gut then you can say what pinged you or at the very least point out which posts pinged you
I realize it can be frustrating I'm choosing not to elaborate rn. As the game progresses, I'll either be inspired enough to provide my original initial reasons, or more likely, will share my newer reasons. I've no particular need to convince anyone of a read this early. When I feel there's a need to, I'll step up as much as I can.AKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgangGame History"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."- RadiantCowbells |"Ranger's been town in most of them."- Plotinus
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True enough.In post 470, DkKoba wrote:the number 1 way to read people is to examine their process.
I've strong reason to believe you're not doing so for me.AKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgangGame History"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."- RadiantCowbells |"Ranger's been town in most of them."- Plotinus
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The only scumgame I've had since returning was the one you linked. I've been blessed with town alignments since. Perhaps someday, I'll receive another scumgame to not limit data to a single point. Alas, not yet.In post 473, HighPrincessErinys wrote:Koba bringing up an ancient ass game pings super weird when they most likely have much more recent experience with scum!Ranger but otherwise this one still doesn't super get the Koba wagon.
You're correct about the oddity of DKKoba's focal point though.AKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgangGame History"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."- RadiantCowbells |"Ranger's been town in most of them."- Plotinus
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What's important to explain is what I have been explaining already.In post 474, DkKoba wrote:i want to see what YOU think is important to explain.
I've no clue what my town/scumgame really are. I know they'renot"Ranger explains as town and doesn't as scum". I know I explain changes between pages when asked, and nobody asked me beyond your initial inquiry, which I answered in full with all the reasoning which existed. I make readslists. I'm a casual tryhard. I like to snark, I like to flirt, I like to give advice, I prioritize fun over winning, I've gained a bad reputation for trolling recently, and that's...about all I know, honestly.AKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgangGame History"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."- RadiantCowbells |"Ranger's been town in most of them."- Plotinus
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Strange. I used your PT search method, and the first scumgame there is literally called "(partners+)Ranger MAFIA Thread". How was this not the "most recent" scumgame?In post 475, DkKoba wrote:i will always find the most recent game I can. The most recent Ranger scumgame was 2016. i must use that game then. I have no other choice.
The first below that:
The Street Fighter Mafia PT. How was this not the "most recent" scumgame?
Bloodborne's scum PT is thethirdon the list.AKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgangGame History"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."- RadiantCowbells |"Ranger's been town in most of them."- Plotinus
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This was the Street Fighter Mafia game, for reference.In post 537, Ranger wrote:
Strange. I used your PT search method, and the first scumgame there is literally called "(partners+)Ranger MAFIA Thread". How was this not the "most recent" scumgame?In post 475, DkKoba wrote:i will always find the most recent game I can. The most recent Ranger scumgame was 2016. i must use that game then. I have no other choice.
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The Street Fighter Mafia PT. How was this not the "most recent" scumgame?
Bloodborne's scum PT is thethirdon the list.AKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgangGame History"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."- RadiantCowbells |"Ranger's been town in most of them."- Plotinus
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Perhaps you're unaware of the timespan nine years is.In post 482, DkKoba wrote:it is accurate for a baseline at minimum. people's playstyles dont change that drastically unless its the difference between a young teenager and adult
Iwasa teenager when I last played. Nine years isnine years. I'd hate to see your perception of time if you think nine yearsisn'tthe difference between a teenager and an adult.AKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgangGame History"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."- RadiantCowbells |"Ranger's been town in most of them."- Plotinus
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Almost never. It can happen. I usually prefer not to spend that much time.In post 487, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:does town ranger elaborate on every read she has ever made?
I'm more fond of explaining the reason behind a shift in read. That I do frequently. If asked, I can produce it between any two readslists. I'll often do it unprompted if I feel it useful/warranted.AKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgangGame History"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."- RadiantCowbells |"Ranger's been town in most of them."- Plotinus
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Perhaps the merit of the 'argument' is involved with the level of respect warranted.In post 490, DkKoba wrote:i dont care bc if u are town here u dont even respect my arguments bc you arent even considering them or reading things I say seriously.AKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgangGame History"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."- RadiantCowbells |"Ranger's been town in most of them."- Plotinus
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I'll just say stop with your privilege and leave it at that. If you lack the empathy to understand how others don't process things as you do, then you're not worth debating with on this.In post 493, DkKoba wrote:explaining a natural thought takes very little time.
Page by page readslists take me ten seconds to do, I copy my last one, put it into a notepad, and manually update it as I process posts/information. I've explained the process of my readslists in relationship to my reading posts in a past game. I can do so again, don't feel like it tonight. The basics are it's internalized instinctive snap judgement calls. I look at my readslist, see if it's wrong, fiddle with it until it feels right, check posts to see if they affect position in readslists; if so, I move them in the readslist, rinse repeat.
Explaining thoughts requires manually slowing down the brain, unpacking the concept into words, tracking down the information, and writing it all out.
Often? Yes. It's called autism, I'd have thought you wouldn't need to look that up.In post 493, DkKoba wrote:like what are u unable to verbalize any sort of thought, like "oh this led me to this"
Words are hard. Lists are easy. Not a difficult concept to grasp.AKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgangGame History"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."- RadiantCowbells |"Ranger's been town in most of them."- Plotinus
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Then help me bus DKKoba.In post 499, Doctor Drew wrote:I am contributing, this is such contrived theater between you two.AKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgangGame History"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."- RadiantCowbells |"Ranger's been town in most of them."- Plotinus
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If ever you wonder if I'm complicit in theater, the answer is I'm not.In post 505, Doctor Drew wrote:where I could be wrong is that Ranger might not be complicit in all this(ie not scum), and legit is trying to defend her point.AKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgangGame History"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."- RadiantCowbells |"Ranger's been town in most of them."- Plotinus
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I've no problem being plenty readable to players. I've also little issue in most games with focusing on fun over winning. I'm quite certain your portrayal of your push on me as policy is a favored scum tactic of yours, although I've not the time to verify tonight.In post 511, DkKoba wrote:this is a policy push for disrespecting the players and refusing to engage in a way that is better readableAKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgangGame History"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."- RadiantCowbells |"Ranger's been town in most of them."- Plotinus
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So do mine.In post 512, DkKoba wrote:not_mafia is more readable than this bc at least his actions show his intentions
I've provided readslists.
When engaged, I've provided the reasons for changes in them.
I've explained the basis of those reads as what they are, primarily gut.
And normally, you would be able to see this.
That you don't this game, I find suspect.AKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgangGame History"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."- RadiantCowbells |"Ranger's been town in most of them."- Plotinus
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I started playing on P1.In post 514, DkKoba wrote:holy shit can we please wagon ranger until they actually start playing
We should consider wagoning DKKoba until they are engaging in good faith.AKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgangGame History"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."- RadiantCowbells |"Ranger's been town in most of them."- Plotinus
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Actually far less so than you'd think. I went through and updated itIn post 515, HighPrincessErinys wrote:Granted, that page is very outdatedmostly. A computer crash caused me to lose my work on verifying the accuracy. There was a potential numbers discrepancy I was aiming to fix, and I lost my work before finishing. Still, if I didn't mess up, all pre-2022 games should be listed. Many descriptions are cringe, due to how pretentious and entitled they are. They're still largely accurate anyway.AKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgangGame History"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."- RadiantCowbells |"Ranger's been town in most of them."- Plotinus
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IIn post 518, DkKoba wrote:yeah something I can agree on because you dont have one to examine.do. That you can't see it here is suspect.AKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgangGame History"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."- RadiantCowbells |"Ranger's been town in most of them."- Plotinus
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That you've not applied this to me is a large factor in why I believe you're scum.In post 523, DkKoba wrote:half the reason yall reach wrong conclusions in mafia is bc you dont care about seeing how someone else is perceiving what theyre doing and whyAKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgangGame History"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."- RadiantCowbells |"Ranger's been town in most of them."- Plotinus
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Almost like the 'effort' was made in bad faith and not genuine.In post 529, HighPrincessErinys wrote:Okay, this one can believe how you found that PT, but it just speaks to a complete lack of effort to ACTUALLY find the most recent game.AKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgangGame History"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."- RadiantCowbells |"Ranger's been town in most of them."- Plotinus
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True!In post 536, DkKoba wrote:ok well protip: when someone is getting obviously frustrated at how you are playing because they want to actually read your slot and are showing that, that person is probably town
You don't look frustrated.
You look argumentative.
The two, while similar, aren't the same. I've seen no signs of frustration from you. I've seen consistent signs of arguing from you.AKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgangGame History"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."- RadiantCowbells |"Ranger's been town in most of them."- Plotinus
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These differ by player being pushed, players doing the pushing, and even game. There's no universal answer.In post 536, DkKoba wrote:how do you expect a townie who is being accused of things they know are false to react? (yes i realize this is also tied into my meta argument - but my counter is that I presented it and am using it to push you to explain things)
how do you expect a townie to react to people pushing them for unsubstantiated reasons?
how do you expect a townie to react to another player refusing to give specifics?
I'll say the way you've reacted is how I'd expect scum-you to react and not town-you. This is mental memory of your meta, and I confess will require research when I'm able to. (Soonestwould be Wednesday.)AKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgangGame History"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."- RadiantCowbells |"Ranger's been town in most of them."- Plotinus
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