Datisi's University [game over!]

[BlueSnakelet]

Can I be wrong too?

VOTE: Furtive

[BlueSnakelet]

Oh no! You've got me

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[BlueSnakelet]

Hey everyone, good to see y'all again!

VOTE: BlueSnakelet

I'm about to go to bed but tomorrow I'll be on a plane for 12+ hours so get ready for some Serious Gameplay

Is this because I ate the pie all by myself?

[BlueSnakelet]

Hi y'all, I'm gonna be fully transparent with this:

I am setting my productivity to 0% today.

You may call that anti-town as much as you want; you can consider it suspicious as much as you want. Which is fair. The scum extra kill mechanism is ludicrously strong and I am fully aware of the risks.

But I have very strong reasons for doing so. I promise that by D4, you'll know why.
I won't go 0% more than once.

But for ~reasons~ I need to go 0% today. Let's just say I'll become a scumhunting GOD.

[BlueSnakelet]

Lol, how did you quote it? Am I just an idiot?

Spoiler: Click this

[BlueSnakelet]

I am too. I believe most mobile browsers have the option to view the "Desktop site". Use that.

[BlueSnakelet]

I am too. I believe most mobile browsers have the option to view the "Desktop site". Use that.

Well now you are asking too much lol.

But if I could ask something, what do you think of Rangers post?

Jest. Ranger knew we would notice the similarities. She did it as a joke.

[BlueSnakelet]

She probably planned to do it before even receiving her role PM.

[BlueSnakelet]

What do you think about Ina, Drew? So far the only thing I've got is a raised eyebrow.

[BlueSnakelet]

like why it’d be unwise for them to just submit 100%

Because then scum can kill however they want at night without worry.

[BlueSnakelet]

like why it’d be unwise for them to just submit 100%

Because then scum can kill however they want at night without worry.

so? there are 19 players alive and I wasn’t expecting someone to claim something like ranger

If there's no risk of failing a kill, scum can just kill whoever is more dangerous by dayplay. If there is such a risk, scum might leave them alone.

And there won't be 19 players forever. As the number of players dwindle, protection roles will get more accurate.

[BlueSnakelet]

DPC

Datisi's psychology club

PROJECT STUDY HALL 1.0

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1. Introduction

TPR points are obtained by not-studying, which also causes the

Professors' Pets

to gain SPR points. The

Project Study Hall

aims to give the

Club

enough TPR points to defeat the

Professors' Pets

, while minimizing the amount of SPR points they'll get in return.

2. The effects of not-studying

The amount of SPR points generated is proportional to the amount TPR points obtained that Week, but this "proportion" does not stay the same throughout the game. It is calculated using the arithmetic average of the TPR points obtained all living

Club Members

. This means that TPR points start cheap and get more expansive as

Club Members

drop out.

At the start, there are

14 Club Members

. This means that for every 14 TPR points we get, the

Professors' Pets

get 1 SPR point. We would need to collectively obtain 700 TPR points for the

Professors' Pets

to get the 50 SPR points required for one extra kill. While scary, a single extra kill isn't enough for them to win the game. 700 TPR points, however, is enough for us to win the game.

If we drop to

7 Club Members

, then the

Professors' Pets

will get one SPR point for every 7 TPR we get. This means the "price" of TPR points doubled up since Week 1, and the

Professors' Pets

will get 50 SPR points for just 350 TPR points, which is a better deal for them.

And here lies the primary directive of

Project Study Hall

: For every TPR point you plan to spend this game, the best time to get it is

as soon as physically possible

. Any amount of studying one Week followed by any amount of not-studying the following Week will result in more SPR being created than if you had simply not-studied the previous Week.

3. Study groups

As nice it is to get a great deal for our TPR points, we should be careful not to buy too much of it. That's why I've devised three study groups that

Club Members

will choose depending on their role. I don't know what role you have (and you shouldn't tell me), so you just have to read your Role PM and follow your heart.

Group 1:

This is the group for vanillas and weak PRs that don't directly aid in defeating the

Professors' Pets

. Roles like Neighborizer or Messenger are really cool, but probably not worth the points. I'd argue that Vigilante fits here too, since they're probably expensive and not preferable over Weekly dismissal. People in this group will not gain or spend any TPR points, and will study 100% of the time every Week. Ideally, half of all

Club Members

(including vanillas) should be in this group.

Group 2:

This is the default group for most PRs. Roles that can stop the Weekend expulsion like protectors and blockers fit here. Weaker investigators such as Traffic Annalist fits here too. People in this group will get and spend no more than 100 TPR points each, and will do all their not-studying in Week 1. Ideally, most of people not in

Group 1

should be in this group.

Group 3:

This is the group for the most powerful of roles, such as the standard Cop. People in this group will get and spend no more than 200 TPR each. They'll study 0% of the time during Week 1, and will do all of their remaining not-studying during Week 2. Judging from the Datisi's Café roster, only one person should be in this group.

Group 4:

This is the group for expensive, game-ending roles. People in this group will study 0% of the time until they've gathered as many TPR points as necessary, and then will study the rest of the game. Unless Datisi has gone mad, this group should be empty.

4. Expected results

If I'm right about how many people will end up in each group, then the

Professors' Pets

will get a little more than 50 SPR points

for the entire game

. This will severely stunt their power while leaving the

Club Members

with enough to make quite the splash.

[BlueSnakelet]

I like post 59 and 60!

can you elaborate on this? I don't have an issue with those posts but they don't seem like they would be difficult to write as scum, especially in the town!Ranger world

I think that the posts were separate! It seemed like BlueSnakelet posted that Ranger was making a joke which was obvious, but then pondered whether the Professor had passed the joke down later!

If it was making the posts especially to show off the second part, the posts would be together!

I was taught to try to read hearts that way by someone else once..

This is correct. I thought about 60 the instant after I pressed "Submit" for 59.

[BlueSnakelet]

Less study time = More PR points.

[BlueSnakelet]

I don't think everyone "already knew" to do all their non-studying Week 1.

[BlueSnakelet]

My first instinct going into this game was that the club had to coordenate so that no individual Week had many slackers at once. Once I realized that this thinking would hurt the club in the long run I had a mini mind-blow.

[BlueSnakelet]

bluesnakelet did you come up with that post pre-game be honest now

No. I've come up with that post overnight while trying to sleep.

[BlueSnakelet]

i am not sure if this is how the game works;

TPR points dont have to be used right away

for example if there is a protective and they require like 100 tpr points. assuming there are 14 town then them getting 100 tpr points today would only give the mafia 7.1 spr points (100/1400)

if there is a doctor and they decide to study later. for example when there is 8 town alive, then 100 tpr points would give the mafia 12.5 spr points.

ofc if the person is shot then the saved tpr points will be wasted.

i think there r lots of different strategies etc but agree with dann it is probably bad to direct people that we dont know. lets trust each other to be smart about playing this game.

I did not notice this post.

[BlueSnakelet]

VOTE: Drew

[BlueSnakelet]

When Player A is arguing with Player B that Player B is mafia, they're doing it to convince the people watching, not Player B.

It's weird how Ari keeps saying that JJ wants to convince her specifically that she's mafia.

[BlueSnakelet]

if i were shooting solely for a third party right now it would probably be first on my list

this is an interesting thought. I don't like the vaguely shit-stirry vibe of 501 and while I previously thought the Massive Plan Post was less likely to come from scum it's much easier for me to imagine a third party writing it

Honestly, I can see that Plan Post coming from the 3rd party.

But I wouldn't do that on my first game as 3rd party. I'd be too scared to.

[BlueSnakelet]

VOTE: Drew

why'd you vote doctor drew here?

Sheeped Dannfloor.

[BlueSnakelet]

VOTE: Drew

why'd you vote doctor drew here?

Sheeped Dannfloor.

hadn't dannflor voted some time ago? were you present on the game at the time?

Probably. I don't remember.

I voted when I did because I felt I was sitting on my RVS wagon for too long.

[BlueSnakelet]

hmhm

did you think anything of aristeia/jjh discussion regarding?

like aristeia accusing of jjh of chainsawing for doctor drew and such?

I'm on JJ's side. Ari has it in their head JJ is scum and won't listen to anything.

But I want to townread Ari for #82, so I guess it's TvT.

[BlueSnakelet]

It didn't. I think flipping Drew will help us with sorting Ari and JJ. But until I have a flip, I'm hopeless.

[BlueSnakelet]

i kinda want to townread 82 as well because it felt like she was explaining to me why my thinking regarding may have been faulty in a helpful way

like not trying to use against me or anything but also i think aristeia might think that's a better approach to me regardless

kinda want to also townread her being like, i already said all that, when you posted big wall regarding

but this feeds into the same worry about her potentially pocketing me because i had already made a similar comment

Just think it like that: That suggestion of gathering TPR early is a huge disadvantage for the groupscum, so we can assume she's at least not in the groupscum faction.

[BlueSnakelet]

But I want to townread Ari for #82, so I guess it's TvT.

if you think it's TvT then why did you post 501? like what was the goal of that post

Make Ari stop doing that.

[BlueSnakelet]

I'm resonating well with Norwegian's posts. I don't feel like he's panicking.

[BlueSnakelet]

The momentum of my wagon is making y'all want to discredit my perfectly logical posts and describe it as "panicky", it's enough to make me chuckle a bit.

Apart from this last post from Norwegian, I could see myself post just like him.