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Hi I'm just here for the good vibes
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Did pooky do something that makes you think they're pocketing you?In post 39, MUSHSHAGANA wrote: Pooky, you cannot pocket me, not least because 3/5ths of me did not exist before late 2022, and Ad (the other one who did) has all the emotional depth of a puddle of concrete.-
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Um in in this picture and I don't like itIn post 105, xyzzy wrote: ofrhz is an emoticon of a person with a ponytail and a backpack slamming their fists on the ground in dejection
i've been playing jaws of the lion with my roommate and their girlfriend and we're at the final mission next time we play -- they've both played a ton of regular gloomhaven with a couple of their other friends and have also been playing it together on the digital version. they haven't beaten that one but didn't want to start a third, separate instance of that one. so it's almost crimson scales time instead!-
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Serious vote btw
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I would just like to say I'm unironically a tommy edman fan
I have a shirt with his name on it and everything-
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We're on page 5 and she has almost every poster sorted? Nah, that's pinging me and feels contrived. Why is the dr. drew town for instance?In post 119, MUSHSHAGANA wrote: I cannot believe how much sauce this made. It's concerning.
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Really? That's pretty coolIn post 122, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
I was at Tommy Edman's first birthday partyIn post 118, ofrhz wrote: I would just like to say I'm unironically a tommy edman fan
I have a shirt with his name on it and everything-
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He's a natural when it comes to baseball, I seeIn post 130, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
yea he grabbed a bat and started smashing the other presentsIn post 127, ofrhz wrote:
Really? That's pretty coolIn post 122, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
I was at Tommy Edman's first birthday partyIn post 118, ofrhz wrote: I would just like to say I'm unironically a tommy edman fan
I have a shirt with his name on it and everything-
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I think pooky is townIn post 144, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote: like the most obvious play is to just speedrun the shit out of this game to increase the homer to lim lim ratio
i wasnt going to say this broken strat because i think this setup is broken but then i remember schadd trolling me when I was scum with a "disloyal vig" in a game with 2 protectives and the mafia literally had no way to block the vig or anything and I remembered Schadd just makes townsided nonsense setups and we should abuse it as much as possible.-
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This is basically a non answerIn post 149, Ranger wrote:
It's weak, but he vibes town so far.In post 124, ofrhz wrote:Why is the dr. drew town for instance?-
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I watch baseball for fun-
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You mean you think they're scum righy?In post 147, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote: also the reason I think koba is town is because they know enough about setup and they are ruthlessly good at abusing setup quirks so the fact they didnt lead off with the speedrun strat is p lolscumclaimy to me
also popping in and claiming they've seen enough from me when im spamming the shit out of this thread is pretty ? like id imagine if they were town they'd at least be fighting me for thread control instead of just popping in saying three words and disappearing on me
Pedit: I'm playing mafia for fun so that should give you an idea of how bored I am LMAO-
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I must confess I don't really understand but I'll help pressure
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Ok thanks. We should be speed running this game, I get it now lol
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Partly this and sheeping lolIn post 129, xyzzy wrote: ranger having decisive reads early is not a scum tell-
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I dunno really, but it seemed like a non-sequitur to me like out of place RVS banter. Though reading more carefully now, it isn't actually a non sequitur. I just can't read apparently >.>In post 227, Dannflor wrote:
this reads like a scum questionIn post 103, ofrhz wrote:
Did pooky do something that makes you think they're pocketing you?In post 39, MUSHSHAGANA wrote: Pooky, you cannot pocket me, not least because 3/5ths of me did not exist before late 2022, and Ad (the other one who did) has all the emotional depth of a puddle of concrete.
sorry ofrhz im throwing some shade at you but maybe you can explain what alignment indicative information you were hoping to get out of this question?-
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Dann feels like he's asking questions to actually sort meIn post 363, Skygazer wrote: hi ofhrz do you have any other townreads besides pooky
Koba didn't have to come to my defense if they were scum. We have people already calling for my lim (...?), and while they still have the bigger wagon, theirs isn't growing unlike mine-
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VOTE: iamveryhappy
I feel ilke his posting around page 10 felt off. Like still doing RVS banter and not commenting on more salient stuff happening in the thread when people were starting to exit RVS and talking about reads-
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Hi Ranger, would you like to put your read of me into words?-
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HighPrincessErinys, do you have any scum reads?-
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??? No there's obviously a difference between weak reason and circular reasoning. Your reasoning is just circular, hence tautologyIn post 445, Ranger wrote:
Well yeah. We're still in early game. If someone claims they've got a slam-dunk case for scumreading someone, they're lying. Everything's weak rn. Gut's the most valid reason for a scumread at this stage. We're slowly transitioning out of that with posts like this though, as I believe this was a bad faith argument.In post 416, ofrhz wrote:393 and 394 are just tautologies
"Why do you scumread me"
"Because you look like scum"
I never said you had to have a slam dunk case on me or anyone else and I don't expect people to at this point, but if it's gut then you can say what pinged you or at the very least point out which posts pinged you
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what if I were to get modkilled by edman so I don't have to read 20 pages-
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OMGUS I don't like this postIn post 472, HighPrincessErinys wrote: This one is willing to admit that this is not outside the realm of possibility for scum!Ranger. Like she said, it's been a bit since we've played together, but the game we DID play together was a scumgame for her, and this one is picking up similar vibes here and there kinda?? But it's too early to tell for sure, and that's also the extent of it's scum!Ranger experience.
On the flipside of the Ranger meta coin:
You, because this is a completely nonsensical post if you have any idea of how Ranger plays just like, in general. It's also kind of stupid on the face of it because it's just going "you are not allowed to have super early gutreads, if you do you're scum". This post is also similarly weird and bad.In post 387, ofrhz wrote: HighPrincessErinys, do you have any scum reads?-
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fortunately for you it seems like I don't need to be modkilled going from the last vc-
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though you're not voting for me?
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The omgus within me must respond to this. How much trajectory do you think I should have had from 97 to 112?In post 762, BlueSnakelet wrote: Ok, I paid attention to ofrhz. Mostly the things It's Highness pointed out in #472.
I read Ranger and ofrhz combined ISOs. From #15 to #91 it's all Ranger (including her readlists). From #97 to #112 it's all ofrhz talking about things other than Ranger. The next post from either of them is ofrhz's "serious" vote on Ranger, which he later explains was because of Ranger's readlists.
I agree, this development makes 0 sense. ofrhz voted without a reason, and then invented a reason when questioned.
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This is rhetorical rightIn post 633, MUSHSHAGANA wrote: ofrhz, tell me, why do you look like scum trying to distract off of Koba? If I wasn't following hard-earned experience on Pooky, I'd say that Koba was the same for you. Could also be my experience doesn't apply with Koba, though. Why do you two look like scumbuddies? Why is Koba using some of your worst posts as evidence of a town mindset? I'm already voting you but I'd do it again if I could.
Because I didn't like Ranger???
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no but maybe after I catch up. I'm paying more attention to their posts since they're also being wagonedIn post 1096, Alisae wrote:
can u vote bluesnek?In post 1092, ofrhz wrote:
This is rhetorical rightIn post 633, MUSHSHAGANA wrote: ofrhz, tell me, why do you look like scum trying to distract off of Koba? If I wasn't following hard-earned experience on Pooky, I'd say that Koba was the same for you. Could also be my experience doesn't apply with Koba, though. Why do you two look like scumbuddies? Why is Koba using some of your worst posts as evidence of a town mindset? I'm already voting you but I'd do it again if I could.
Because I didn't like Ranger???
thanks for the picture though. I like cats, and am pleased to be portrayed as one myself
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The Bulge is like a Dannflor mime except he really leans into it-
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Do you find this progression to be scummy instead of coming from a townie changing their mind? The Ranger trajectory feels fairly believable to me. This post feels like picking at an ~inconsistency~ but also picking at one that doesn't seem to be there. See: 505In post 727, BlueSnakelet wrote:
I'd like to state for the record that this isIn post 715, Doctor Drew wrote:[...]
But ya, as I said I don't think Ranger was actually complicit in it and was just Koba seemingly purposely going over the top.
[...]notwhat Drew said before. He said that he thinks that both Koba and Ranger were playing a theater, but hemightbe wrong about Ranger.
Drew's weak scumread on Ranger became a townread. Which is fine of course, but this feels like gaslighting.-
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but then I won't remember where I left off reading
ok but only because I'm intrigued by rat bastard-
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If it helps, I already had Drew as kinda towny and HPE as kinda scummy
You were towny and getting PO'd by people parking their vote on you
Pooky idk because I started feeling like he was goading you but also got the impression you both have history and maybe just dislike each other-
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I thought his read of you and Ranger as SvS was believable because (a) he had a latent scumread of you there going into it and (b) Ranger was just stonewalling you for a bit. It's the kind of read that sticks out like a sore thumb (in a way that wouldn't go unnoticed) and he was the first to say it was SvS, and therefore it was less likely to come from scum IMO.In post 1123, DkKoba wrote:
how is drew towny?In post 1121, ofrhz wrote: If it helps, I already had Drew as kinda towny and HPE as kinda scummy
You were towny and getting PO'd by people parking their vote on you
Pooky idk because I started feeling like he was goading you but also got the impression you both have history and maybe just dislike each other
He also progressed into a townlean on Ranger when I thought she was starting to sound town as well, so there's some plausibility in that trajectory there-
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I didn't bin him though? I view mafia as a game of probability, but regardless I'm going to continue reading from page 38. It's 11:30pm and I finally got my code to work-
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Drew can you just give me the major points of why you think Koba is scum again? Sorry if this seems like busywork but this thread is really hard to read especially after having skipped some pages
Why is this scummy? You've been scumreading Koba this whole time yes? Is that not also tunnelingIn post 1093, Doctor Drew wrote:
wtf?In post 1086, HighPrincessErinys wrote:
Because you didn't call their spat with Ranger tunneling.In post 1084, Doctor Drew wrote:
Literally explain how Koba isn't tunneling.In post 1074, HighPrincessErinys wrote:
lil bro thinks having an active argument with someone in real time is tunnelingIn post 1070, Doctor Drew wrote:
Nah, you kept wanting to pivot onto Pooky......you even kept wanting to keep pushing Ranger until you felt it was a lost cause.In post 1053, DkKoba wrote: i reconsidered the arguments i had for ranger being scum, and realized they werent good arguments and had good reasons to find them town, thats mafia 101, i would call myself a bad player if i just tunneled 100% with no evaluation, thats for 2020 noob koba
like its not the own you think it is ROFL
And you literally are tunneling Pooky right now.
I literally called that theater until I felt that Ranger was't complicit in it.
But Koba has been CLEARLY tunneling pooky, has is it not obvious?
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none of this is really gaslighting btw-
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I already said I think it's badIn post 1150, Alisae wrote: ofrhz what do u think of bluesneks vote on u-
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I was wondering how HPE ended up defending Koba bc I remember it scumreading them. I see HPE was pushing Koba but then it backed off saying its "Scum PT" push (for lack of a better word) was no longer good, and said it doesn't understand why the Koba wagon is a thing to begin with.
I don't really understand what changed besides that Dannflor called it out for it in 698. As I understand it, it scumread Koba for a thought it was good but then it later realized it wasn't good. Erinys was that what you were saying in 706?-
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I dunno I can kind of see this as TvT. Maybe I'm biased because i tr Drew from early but he's trying to engage with you about how your stances. The engagement doesn't feel bad faith to meSpoiler:-
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*how your stances changed-
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We don't have a deadline and people keep asking me to read shit. I actually have some free time so I will-
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I don't remember a single Meuh post to be quite frank, but I kinda do just want to VOTE: BlueSnakelet
If I were to vote someone on that wagon of yours @Koba, it'd probably be Pooky. Moving beyond why HPE's stated reasons for unvoting you in the first place, I can see town just thinking you got more towny as the 1v1 went on. But it has a good point in 1129 that he has felt like he's just goading you to tilt you or something. Also xyzzy's pop in vote where they said you/Ranger were SvS was quite ? and no town points for those late to the buffet I'm afraid
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I regret saying Meuhs posting was forgettable earlier
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I'm just a flavoring ingredient used to jazz up your baked goods and can't get into this game so w/e-
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Is that what BlueSnakelet claimed? Have they used it? If not, why haven't they used it?-
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I had one vote
I still have one vote-
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This is a test to see who's pattern recognition skills are good
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Well blue voted flipped town and flipped town voted blue
I might back read a bit if I feel like it, but this seems as good a place to start as any
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No they're not always gonna be right, but I was scum reading them anyway-
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Paging Dr schadd_
Give us the flip please and thank u-
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Probably not
I don't understand how it read the game and didn't understand that. Hasn't this been alluded to multiple times-
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We did it reddit-
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I got lost in the double negative sorry, but my point was that there were a lot of posts about this, so I'm confused how you didn't realize and think you were faking it.In post 1729, HighPrincessErinys wrote:
bro was no one gonna fucking tell me that everyone but me knew town were the only guys getting batted out here???In post 1726, ofrhz wrote: Probably not
I don't understand how it read the game and didn't understand that. Hasn't this been alluded to multiple times
How does blue's claim make sense if both town and mafia can be killed by the mod?
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Schadd singlehandedly nerfing vca players by making VCs harder to read I swear-
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Wait whoever gets wagoned by a majority in each block gets all the votes from that block?
So bloc a has 12 which more than majority and then us bloc b folks just sit around twiddling our thumbs?
Godspeed-
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