DEFCON 6.0 - GAME OVER!

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Random Nuking Stage, you say?

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Nuke: Marci

This is actually just scum

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If you rearrange Roden you get Drone... hmmmmm

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Are you fuckers shitting me? I get my first game with Marci in probably over a year and you pull this?

There’s only like a 51% chance Marci died from 2 nukes

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It just emotional
Altho I also don’t get why T3 thinks you’re scum enough to nuke you here

I moderately disliked Marci’s tone around the nukes and her reaction to people using random nukes. It seemed like she was scared scum, perhaps.

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It just emotional
Altho I also don’t get why T3 thinks you’re scum enough to nuke you here

T3 literally said "random nuking stage" right before nuking. how can u not read one page

FWIW my nuke was not random. I scumread marci a bit and wanted to see her reaction.

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It just emotional
Altho I also don’t get why T3 thinks you’re scum enough to nuke you here

I moderately disliked Marci’s tone around the nukes and her reaction to people using random nukes. It seemed like she was scared scum, perhaps.

What even was my reaction lolol

16 and 18 gave kinda weird and insincere vibes.

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Can we even use our nukes yet? I’d ask but I’m at work and too busy being a bad employee.

you either didn't read page one of the game or you are intentionally dumb telling

Why would scum!Bell intentionally dumb tell in this situation? If the dumbtell was sincere that wouldn’t imply anything about his alignment, no?

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It just emotional
Altho I also don’t get why T3 thinks you’re scum enough to nuke you here

I moderately disliked Marci’s tone around the nukes and her reaction to people using random nukes. It seemed like she was scared scum, perhaps.

What even was my reaction lolol

16 and 18 gave kinda weird and insincere vibes.

U 2 bestie!

I get that a lot :<

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It just emotional
Altho I also don’t get why T3 thinks you’re scum enough to nuke you here

I moderately disliked Marci’s tone around the nukes and her reaction to people using random nukes. It seemed like she was scared scum, perhaps.

What even was my reaction lolol

16 and 18 gave kinda weird and insincere vibes.

U 2 bestie!

While I did scumread you, the nuke was also mainly intended as a reaction test. And you half-failed said reaction test. Your reaction to my nuke felt a little scummy in that you immediately started talking about random stuff and then got more serious a bit after that, which I find scummy. But it’s also not like you freaked out and super scumtelled.

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Chell is the slot with the most reflection in their posts so far.

What in particular? I liked Chell’s progression from 131 to 137 but it’s definitely not unfakeable and I’d guess that it’s well within Chell’s scumrange too.

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Is chell bad at faking confidence as scum?

Idk who Chell is lol, but they're an alt playing in a large theme, chance are they're an experienced player.

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What in particular? I liked Chell’s progression from 131 to 137 but it’s definitely not unfakeable and I’d guess that it’s well within Chell’s scumrange too.

What's good about that progression?

It seemed like genuine scumhunting, especially this early in the game

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t3 kinda feels like he just picked something completely random out of my iso to say he liked

But then when someone, like, asks me why I liked that part of your ISO, and I'm unable to satisfactorily answer that question, I'll get scumread.

Also, I think I asked you a question about Bell, no?

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How did you get from this to this to this?

that is the scummiest way ive ever seen someone present a pro-town strategy

there's literally nothing scummy about that post?

here's the thing unowen, you might just be a cautious person who doesn't want to hit buttons without thinking through the ramifications of every potential consequence

but "responsible nuke owner" is also a very convenient position for scum to take up

like scum usually don't have to be worried about being town read or not pissing off every single slot in the game

being conservative and lethal with your nukes is kind of a great way to play against that

so i mean it might be true that you are a special kind of person who has enough discipline to not immediately go for the rush of dopamine that comes from sending your upgrades in or launching a nuke

but i think on average it makes you greater than rand scum

Excuse me, I am very much the person who wants to hit buttons without thinking through every potential consequence.

But there is no dopamine rush to sending a nuke without the sense of righteousness and conviction about it. And don't see it on upgrades, if I knew for certain that I couldn't double up on a stat I would have sent them in already but even then it would hardly be comparable to trying to turn someone to nuclear ash.

None of this why you nuked me in the first place though?

this is 2 scum talking to each other

UNO more likely scum than chell

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I feel like scum would really try to shitpost as hard as they possibly can in this game to delay discussion as much as possible so Firebringer shitposting on page 12 when asked a genuine question is weird. First, FB said that he didn't believe that I had a genuine read on Marci. Then when pushed further he said "actually, I'm not scumhunting, let's just joke around and forget anything happened"

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T3 and gob are top of my scum list

You scumread me in literally every game lmao

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T3 it's feeling like you're trying to find a reason to nuke me, do it. I dare you. join chell's nuke on me! let's take out the obvious town day 1

I've already nuked Marci lol

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How did you get from this to this to this?

that is the scummiest way ive ever seen someone present a pro-town strategy

there's literally nothing scummy about that post?

here's the thing unowen, you might just be a cautious person who doesn't want to hit buttons without thinking through the ramifications of every potential consequence

but "responsible nuke owner" is also a very convenient position for scum to take up

like scum usually don't have to be worried about being town read or not pissing off every single slot in the game

being conservative and lethal with your nukes is kind of a great way to play against that

so i mean it might be true that you are a special kind of person who has enough discipline to not immediately go for the rush of dopamine that comes from sending your upgrades in or launching a nuke

but i think on average it makes you greater than rand scum

Excuse me, I am very much the person who wants to hit buttons without thinking through every potential consequence.

But there is no dopamine rush to sending a nuke without the sense of righteousness and conviction about it. And don't see it on upgrades, if I knew for certain that I couldn't double up on a stat I would have sent them in already but even then it would hardly be comparable to trying to turn someone to nuclear ash.

None of this why you nuked me in the first place though?

this is 2 scum talking to each other

UNO more likely scum than chell

what's the question? 234 is talking about norwee's post not being scummy

Oh fuck you're right. I confused Chell's Norwee scumread with Chell's Owen scumread.

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have you ever played with firebringer before

Like 5 times or something. All I remember about his meta is that he had one-line shitposts and then got serious at some point in the game

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Andante's gotta be town here lol

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Nuke: Gamma

ABORT THE MISSION

No!! Why did you abort?!?!?!

really wishing I didn't right about now... but to be fair it literally doesn't say anywhere you lose your nuke with aborting it..

I mean, do you think that when the US military launches a nuke out of a missile silo and then they abort the nuke then the nuke just magically flies back to the missile silo?

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I feel like scum would really try to shitpost as hard as they possibly can in this game to delay discussion as much as possible so Firebringer shitposting on page 12 when asked a genuine question is weird. First, FB said that he didn't believe that I had a genuine read on Marci. Then when pushed further he said "actually, I'm not scumhunting, let's just joke around and forget anything happened"

This sounds like typical Firebringer to me.

I don't know what typical Firebringer is so I'll take your word for it

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I mean I could've told yall I'm town, that one is easy. who is scum? more difficult. Andres hasn't spoken and we're like 20 pages in, soooo he's probably not gonna like playing catchup, idk, if a bunch of people have hipfired nukes, how is that towny. I understand nukes/guns are fun, but wait for people to talk to have options?

See I think Andante is towny and then I see random stuff like this

This is just typical Andante I guess haha

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Klick

I didn't even know that Klick had posted in this game

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[Andante, Gamma]
[Ircher]
[Bell, Gob, Cakez]
[Cephrir, Firebringer]--------------------- NULL LINE
[Skygazer, Norwee]
[Owen, marci]
[Chell]

If you're not on this list then I haven't seen or cared about any of your posts. Or maybe I just forgot about you when making this list.

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It just emotional
Altho I also don’t get why T3 thinks you’re scum enough to nuke you here

I moderately disliked Marci’s tone around the nukes and her reaction to people using random nukes. It seemed like she was scared scum, perhaps.

What even was my reaction lolol

What do people make of this post btw?

Nothing. I guess if I thought really hard I could probably make it look town or scum indicative and then eventually conclude that it means nothing

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[Andante, Gamma]
[Ircher]
[Bell, Gob, Cakez]
[Cephrir, Firebringer]--------------------- NULL LINE
[Skygazer, Norwee]
[Owen, marci]
[Chell]

If you're not on this list then I haven't seen or cared about any of your posts. Or maybe I just forgot about you when making this list.

Well fuck me I guess

You're in the "seen but not cared about" category

What do you think about Andante?

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Skygazer gives weird 3p vibes that I can't quite put my finger on

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I feel like scum would really try to shitpost as hard as they possibly can in this game to delay discussion as much as possible so Firebringer shitposting on page 12 when asked a genuine question is weird. First, FB said that he didn't believe that I had a genuine read on Marci. Then when pushed further he said "actually, I'm not scumhunting, let's just joke around and forget anything happened"

if you think im too scared to push u for some reason im all for the scumread and or u nuking me.
i just think ur full of shit on the scumread for what was posted and i don't care to think too heavily if that makes u scum or not.

i find this line of reasoning on pushing me kind of entertaining tho. Please continue

What I was saying is that it seemed like you were trying to shitpost a lot to coast through and delay discussion. At least that's what I would do if I was scum in this game. Also at that point on Page 12 the game was transitioning from the "serious phase" to the "joking phase"

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Believe me, I am the last person to accuse someone of pushing me because they're scared of pushing me. In the words of petapan, "I am the easiest push ever"

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What I was saying is that it seemed like you were trying to shitpost a lot to coast through and delay discussion. At least that's what I would do if I was scum in this game. Also at that point on Page 12 the game was transitioning from the "serious phase" to the "joking phase"

im gonna coast with a lot of shit posts so be prepared then

Yeah, Ircher asked me if I'd ever played with you before and I realized "oh, this is probably just normal Firebringer." I'm definitely leaning town on you right now.

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Nuke: T3

Abort launch

I think I feel good about T3 so I’m gonna stop the firing now
Would still like if he could call off the strike on Marci, yeah I don’t have a sure feeling she’s town but ffs I think I’m allowed to call in this favor given I’ve seen other players abjectly refuse to go after certain players at all regardless of the game situation

If it confirmed that if I abort, I lose my nuke for 7 days? If not I think I'll probably wait to abort because I still have a scumread on Marci.

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why do you scum read me t3

Your questioning of me in 248 felt a little fake, and then when I responded to it there was just no follow-up on your part. The main thing though is that I just don't see where you're coming from with a lot of your questions and reads. As in, I don't understand how a town could think to ask the questions that you're asking and provide the reads that you're expressing.

For example, in 84 you asked about Gamma's WIM. Up to that point, Gamma had expressed some scumreads and mechanical considerations but I don't think you could describe him as having a highly abnormal amount of WIM. I didn't fully get your explanation in 91 - it looked more like a post-hoc justification of what someone thinks a townie might ask about rather than an actual, genuine reason for asking a question. Your scumread of Norwee in 206 didn't make sense to me either, and again, it felt like a post-hoc justification for something that a townie might ask about.

I

can

see a world in which we're both town but we're on completely different wavelengths but there's just so much in your ISO that pings me in the exact same way. The thing that turns me off the "town on completely different wavelengths" theory is that twice I asked you about your read of Bell in 93, but you just never responded to my question.

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yeah sorry i dont care about your question i think its self evident that bell would be dumb telling to get town read

Okay, whatever then. I’m not really seeing it tbf but it doesn’t matter.

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why do you scum read me t3

Your questioning of me in 248 felt a little fake, and then when I responded to it there was just no follow-up on your part. The main thing though is that I just don't see where you're coming from with a lot of your questions and reads. As in, I don't understand how a town could think to ask the questions that you're asking and provide the reads that you're expressing.

For example, in 84 you asked about Gamma's WIM. Up to that point, Gamma had expressed some scumreads and mechanical considerations but I don't think you could describe him as having a highly abnormal amount of WIM. I didn't fully get your explanation in 91 - it looked more like a post-hoc justification of what someone thinks a townie might ask about rather than an actual, genuine reason for asking a question. Your scumread of Norwee in 206 didn't make sense to me either, and again, it felt like a post-hoc justification for something that a townie might ask about.

I

can

see a world in which we're both town but we're on completely different wavelengths but there's just so much in your ISO that pings me in the exact same way. The thing that turns me off the "town on completely different wavelengths" theory is that twice I asked you about your read of Bell in 93, but you just never responded to my question.

honestly tempted to nuke this for the sheer level of nonsense

This game I’ve been trying to scumhunt differently than I usually do and I guess it shows

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Previously I’ve tried relying on intuition to scumhunt which always led to me having really average reads. My scumhunting this game has been a lot more mechanical and methodical I guess

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alright then doctor drew u can be a temporary member of united alliance of states against these youngin states.

I am japan
u can be taiwan because #1
cephrir can be Saudi Arabia

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Good night MS

See you in 7 hours

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I don’t like a chell’s response to T3 on an emotional level,
But I don’t care from an unemotional standpoint.
It’s just awkward grandstanding.

I don't hate Chell's response to my 'case,' I think it's a little scum indicative but not very much. On one hand, Chell is not a widely scumread player and can get away with just brushing the case off if she's scum. On the other hand, I don't think it's unreasonable to say that town!Chell could think my case is bad and just think that it's not worth engaging with me.

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Andante's gotta be town here lol

Andante being weird and erratic is just how they are imo. As both alignments too.

Was there anything town indicative to you?

Andante's nuke and abort of Gamma almost felt too wild and erratic, even for Andante. Also, Andante nuked Gob as a reaction test but she wasn't trying to show off and say "oh, I'm so town, I'm nuking Gob as a reaction test." She fake nuked Gob to gauge his alignment. Plus I liked her response to Chell's scumread of her but that might just be me confbiasing.

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Skygazer gives weird 3p vibes that I can't quite put my finger on

What vibes?
And why are they different from scum vibes.

The vibe I get is that she’s just trying to make as little noise as possible and survive while appearing to contribute. I can’t quite put my finger on why it’s different from scum vibes though.

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How do they do that by picking the scummiest picks possible which have been discussed by multiple players in thread and being the first to nuke someone with an attempt to kill them?

That's fair lol. I wasn't paying too much attention to Skygazer I just got weird vibes but didn't actually check Skygazer's ISO to follow up on said vibes

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Roden's probably town from his reaction to the nuke and read of Skygazer

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gob feels like he's just gonna tunnel me regardless but maybe i'm wrong

What? Gob has mentioned you like 3 times and when he has mentioned you you haven’t actually tried to engage with him or ask why he scumreads you, so this post seems a bit weird.

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I don’t understand why Gob is at the top of a lot of people’s scum lists. At first I had a slight townread on him, primarily because of his questioning of Gamma and me not seeing much of an agenda from his posts. After rereading his ISO I have a slight scumread on him because he’s still disengaged and his posts seem like busywork. But again - I don’t get why anyone is saying that he’s their top nuke target. I don’t think he’s done anything particularly egregious.

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[Andante, Gamma]
[Ircher]
[Bell, Gob, Cakez]
[Cephrir, Firebringer]--------------------- NULL LINE
[Skygazer, Norwee]
[Owen, marci]
[Chell]

If you're not on this list then I haven't seen or cared about any of your posts. Or maybe I just forgot about you when making this list.

Well fuck me I guess

You're in the "seen but not cared about" category

What do you think about Andante?

No one cares about poor ol Drew

And I mean, Andante sure is a player in this game amirite?

I am not gonna lock town then quite yet like everyone else. I have seen this hyper posting rodeo like this from scum before.

What are your reads?

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My read of Norwee is that he's a little bit >rand to be scum. I thought his tone earlier was weird but I always scumread Norwee's tone. His content so far has been very bland. Plus his questioning of me didn't seem like he was actually trying to solve my or Andante's alignment - all Norwee is doing is providing half-hearted commentary.

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Hmm idk about norwee i think i need more time there first.

Anyways its confirmed i know the scumteam (im a very good player) its doctor, bell, gob, ircher, t3 and penguin

Im so op right guys?

Give me a reason why I should retract my nuke on you again?

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Hmm idk about norwee i think i need more time there first.

Anyways its confirmed i know the scumteam (im a very good player) its doctor, bell, gob, ircher, t3 and penguin

Im so op right guys?

Give me a reason why I should retract my nuke on you again?

is the implication of this post that suspecting you is a reason you are not interested in retracting it?

No - if Marci is town I can see her genuinely scumreading me. The other stuff in her post is scummy though.

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It seems like Marci is trying really really hard to make it seem like she feels absolutely no pressure whatsoever, and give the impression that she's town who is cool as a cucumber in the face of multiple nukes and scumreads. Her enthusiasm and shitposting feel super forced.

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anyway i think she sounds very at ease and i think that's difficult for her as scum

Huh okay then. To me she seems, like, not at all genuinely at ease

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Why do you think it’s targeted at you specifically?

because I was set to make a retaliation strike

This is the kind of batshit crazy theory that usually comes from town lol. Idk where I stand on UNOwen right now - I scumread him earlier and I thought that Chell could be bussing but now I'm not sure.

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My read of Norwee is that he's a little bit >rand to be scum. I thought his tone earlier was weird but I always scumread Norwee's tone. His content so far has been very bland. Plus his questioning of me didn't seem like he was actually trying to solve my or Andante's alignment - all Norwee is doing is providing half-hearted commentary.

I haven't properly activated yet since i'm mainly townhunting and don't have a lot of surefire scumreads.
It seems like you're putting a bunch of weird expectations on me that i'm never going to fulfill.

How is saying that your commentary is half-hearted and that you're slightly scummy "weird expectations"?

Also, you have fulfilled these expectations in many games before, you're generally a fairly active and good player as either alignment so this doesn't make sense.

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My read of Norwee is that he's a little bit >rand to be scum. I thought his tone earlier was weird but I always scumread Norwee's tone. His content so far has been very bland. Plus his questioning of me didn't seem like he was actually trying to solve my or Andante's alignment - all Norwee is doing is providing half-hearted commentary.

I haven't properly activated yet since i'm mainly townhunting and don't have a lot of surefire scumreads.
It seems like you're putting a bunch of weird expectations on me that i'm never going to fulfill.

How is saying that your commentary is half-hearted and that you're slightly scummy "weird expectations"?

Also, you have fulfilled these expectations in many games before, you're generally a fairly active and good player as either alignment so this doesn't make sense.

Also, my point was that it didn't seem to me like you were actually townhunting as your questions were kind of pointless. I think this >rand comes from scum!Norwee making mediocre busywork posts rather than town!Norwee struggling to get into the game, but by no means have I presented my scumread of you as settled.

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Okay my Skygazer 3p vibes were probably just how Skygazer talks lol

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Though maybe having 47 posts points to that not being the case

What has Skygazer even said in those 47 posts though

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Why do you think it’s targeted at you specifically?

because I was set to make a retaliation strike

This is the kind of batshit crazy theory that usually comes from town lol. Idk where I stand on UNOwen right now - I scumread him earlier and I thought that Chell could be bussing but now I'm not sure.

they literally nuked each other and you still think they're bussing

bruh

earlier

I thought they were bussing.

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Though maybe having 47 posts points to that not being the case

What has Skygazer even said in those 47 posts though

Skygazer never makes super dense posts and has a lot of off-topic posts regardless of alignment, so I don't think this is very meaningful

So then why would Skygazer's 47 posts have any bearing on her alignment?

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Is T3 scumreading SkyGazer?

No

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My read of Norwee is that he's a little bit >rand to be scum. I thought his tone earlier was weird but I always scumread Norwee's tone. His content so far has been very bland. Plus his questioning of me didn't seem like he was actually trying to solve my or Andante's alignment - all Norwee is doing is providing half-hearted commentary.

I haven't properly activated yet since i'm mainly townhunting and don't have a lot of surefire scumreads.
It seems like you're putting a bunch of weird expectations on me that i'm never going to fulfill.

How is saying that your commentary is half-hearted and that you're slightly scummy "weird expectations"?

Also, you have fulfilled these expectations in many games before, you're generally a fairly active and good player as either alignment so this doesn't make sense.

Well for one, i’ve been very busy this week. Gonna be a 12 hour work shift tommorow in the weekend too.
But RL aside, i’m also experimenting with my playstyle recently. So just forget about the old. If you genuinely think i’m scum then i’d expect better reasoning than what you’ve given so far.

Sure, I get that you can't post very frequently. But again, I never said that I genuinely

think you're scum

, that implies a stronger degree of certainty that what I have expressed. This just seems like a dumb argument over semantics tbh.

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My read of Norwee is that he's a little bit >rand to be scum. I thought his tone earlier was weird but I always scumread Norwee's tone. His content so far has been very bland. Plus his questioning of me didn't seem like he was actually trying to solve my or Andante's alignment - all Norwee is doing is providing half-hearted commentary.

I haven't properly activated yet since i'm mainly townhunting and don't have a lot of surefire scumreads.
It seems like you're putting a bunch of weird expectations on me that i'm never going to fulfill.

How is saying that your commentary is half-hearted and that you're slightly scummy "weird expectations"?

Also, you have fulfilled these expectations in many games before, you're generally a fairly active and good player as either alignment so this doesn't make sense.

Well for one, i’ve been very busy this week. Gonna be a 12 hour work shift tommorow in the weekend too.
But RL aside, i’m also experimenting with my playstyle recently. So just forget about the old. If you genuinely think i’m scum then i’d expect better reasoning than what you’ve given so far.

Sure, I get that you can't post very frequently. But again, I never said that I genuinely

think you're scum

, that implies a stronger degree of certainty that what I have expressed. This just seems like a dumb argument over semantics tbh.

So who do you think is scum? I've seen you defending like 3 people but no scum accusations. We got 5 of them to catch......

Have you even been reading my posts

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My read of Norwee is that he's a little bit >rand to be scum. I thought his tone earlier was weird but I always scumread Norwee's tone. His content so far has been very bland. Plus his questioning of me didn't seem like he was actually trying to solve my or Andante's alignment - all Norwee is doing is providing half-hearted commentary.

I haven't properly activated yet since i'm mainly townhunting and don't have a lot of surefire scumreads.
It seems like you're putting a bunch of weird expectations on me that i'm never going to fulfill.

How is saying that your commentary is half-hearted and that you're slightly scummy "weird expectations"?

Also, you have fulfilled these expectations in many games before, you're generally a fairly active and good player as either alignment so this doesn't make sense.

Well for one, i’ve been very busy this week. Gonna be a 12 hour work shift tommorow in the weekend too.
But RL aside, i’m also experimenting with my playstyle recently. So just forget about the old. If you genuinely think i’m scum then i’d expect better reasoning than what you’ve given so far.

Sure, I get that you can't post very frequently. But again, I never said that I genuinely

think you're scum

, that implies a stronger degree of certainty that what I have expressed. This just seems like a dumb argument over semantics tbh.

So who do you think is scum? I've seen you defending like 3 people but no scum accusations. We got 5 of them to catch......

Have you even been reading my posts

Having too few scumreads is most definitely not one of my sins this game

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My read of Norwee is that he's a little bit >rand to be scum. I thought his tone earlier was weird but I always scumread Norwee's tone. His content so far has been very bland. Plus his questioning of me didn't seem like he was actually trying to solve my or Andante's alignment - all Norwee is doing is providing half-hearted commentary.

I haven't properly activated yet since i'm mainly townhunting and don't have a lot of surefire scumreads.
It seems like you're putting a bunch of weird expectations on me that i'm never going to fulfill.

How is saying that your commentary is half-hearted and that you're slightly scummy "weird expectations"?

Also, you have fulfilled these expectations in many games before, you're generally a fairly active and good player as either alignment so this doesn't make sense.

Well for one, i’ve been very busy this week. Gonna be a 12 hour work shift tommorow in the weekend too.
But RL aside, i’m also experimenting with my playstyle recently. So just forget about the old. If you genuinely think i’m scum then i’d expect better reasoning than what you’ve given so far.

Sure, I get that you can't post very frequently. But again, I never said that I genuinely

think you're scum

, that implies a stronger degree of certainty that what I have expressed. This just seems like a dumb argument over semantics tbh.

So who do you think is scum? I've seen you defending like 3 people but no scum accusations. We got 5 of them to catch......

Have you even been reading my posts

You gonna answer or what?

I have scumread Chell, marci, UNOwen (now I'm less sure about him though), and Firebringer (I think he's probably town now). I was also about to post about how I scumread you too!

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There's also the lurkers/busy people (Penguin, Drew, Andres, Ircher, STD, Cakez), in all likelihood there's 1 or 2 scum in them.

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Bell has been a constant presence in the thread but I don't have a strong read on him. He's making lots and lots of low-content posts that haven't struck me as AI in the slightest. I don't think I want him nuked today though because I think given his frequent posting he'll likely be a lot more sortable in the later stages of the game. I'd say I'm leaning town on him - we thought some of the same things about the Chell/UNOwen interaction and I've gotten good vibes from him. I played a game with scum!Bell a while ago in which he was really anxious and lurky and was flipped Day 2 and this doesn't feel like that Bell at all. This game was in 2021 or so though.

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My read of Norwee is that he's a little bit >rand to be scum. I thought his tone earlier was weird but I always scumread Norwee's tone. His content so far has been very bland. Plus his questioning of me didn't seem like he was actually trying to solve my or Andante's alignment - all Norwee is doing is providing half-hearted commentary.

I haven't properly activated yet since i'm mainly townhunting and don't have a lot of surefire scumreads.
It seems like you're putting a bunch of weird expectations on me that i'm never going to fulfill.

How is saying that your commentary is half-hearted and that you're slightly scummy "weird expectations"?

Also, you have fulfilled these expectations in many games before, you're generally a fairly active and good player as either alignment so this doesn't make sense.

Well for one, i’ve been very busy this week. Gonna be a 12 hour work shift tommorow in the weekend too.
But RL aside, i’m also experimenting with my playstyle recently. So just forget about the old. If you genuinely think i’m scum then i’d expect better reasoning than what you’ve given so far.

Sure, I get that you can't post very frequently. But again, I never said that I genuinely

think you're scum

, that implies a stronger degree of certainty that what I have expressed. This just seems like a dumb argument over semantics tbh.

So who do you think is scum? I've seen you defending like 3 people but no scum accusations. We got 5 of them to catch......

Have you even been reading my posts

You gonna answer or what?

I have scumread Chell, marci, UNOwen (now I'm less sure about him though), and Firebringer (I think he's probably town now). I was also about to post about how I scumread you too!

So which ones are you scumreading the most now?

Marci and to a slightly lesser degree Chell. I was previously scumreading Chell a lot and I still am but I haven't really wanted to push her recently. I have a nuke heading towards Marci right now though.

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Bell has been a constant presence in the thread but I don't have a strong read on him. He's making lots and lots of low-content posts that haven't struck me as AI in the slightest. I don't think I want him nuked today though because I think given his frequent posting he'll likely be a lot more sortable in the later stages of the game. I'd say I'm leaning town on him - we thought some of the same things about the Chell/UNOwen interaction and I've gotten good vibes from him. I played a game with scum!Bell a while ago in which he was really anxious and lurky and was flipped Day 2 and this doesn't feel like that Bell at all. This game was in 2021 or so though.

Sheesh well, I might just give you an effort clear for all these walls.

I don't think I've written a single wall in my time on this site, or even playing mafia ever

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is anyone keeping track of those who still have a nuke right now

@MOD, would it be possible to get "Nukecounts" that show which nukes have been fired at which players, by whom, and how long we have until those nukes detonate?

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the openning posts says who nuked who and how much time left
but im lazy and not going to figure out who still has a nuke they are chambering.

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Spoiler:

How is saying that your commentary is half-hearted and that you're slightly scummy "weird expectations"?

Also, you have fulfilled these expectations in many games before, you're generally a fairly active and good player as either alignment so this doesn't make sense.

Well for one, i’ve been very busy this week. Gonna be a 12 hour work shift tommorow in the weekend too.
But RL aside, i’m also experimenting with my playstyle recently. So just forget about the old. If you genuinely think i’m scum then i’d expect better reasoning than what you’ve given so far.

Sure, I get that you can't post very frequently. But again, I never said that I genuinely

think you're scum

, that implies a stronger degree of certainty that what I have expressed. This just seems like a dumb argument over semantics tbh.

So who do you think is scum? I've seen you defending like 3 people but no scum accusations. We got 5 of them to catch......

Have you even been reading my posts

You gonna answer or what?

I have scumread Chell, marci, UNOwen (now I'm less sure about him though), and Firebringer (I think he's probably town now). I was also about to post about how I scumread you too!

So which ones are you scumreading the most now?

Marci and to a slightly lesser degree Chell. I was previously scumreading Chell a lot and I still am but I haven't really wanted to push her recently. I have a nuke heading towards Marci right now though.

Are you gonna kill her?

Probably. She sure hasn't given me any reason why not!

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It’s the guy who offered to slave his missiles to you.

Why? I thought Drew was a bit scummy for skirting around my questions when I tried to engage him in the game. Instead of saying "sorry, I'm busy, I haven't formed much of a read on Andante" he said "Andante isn't lock town" without elaboration.

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Also maybe T3 because their reasoning has been detailed but their conclusions have been kind of hilarious in an off way.

In what way lol

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Replacements are the bread and butter of the site

Except we're in a famine we couldn't produce bread so all the cows starved to death and then we had no milk to make butter

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You have a 60% chance of dying. Please reflect.

Isn't it 51%

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Only person I want to nuke is gob
But that’s really only cause there directed questions at me are so lazy

I got my finger on the button, let me know if you want me punch in the launch codes.

who do u want to nuke right now if i said i want u to nuke whoever u think is best

This game is moving quickly mainly when I am busy, I am skimming when I can(like now at work), so shit posting and this Nuke deal with FB is a way to keep coasting until I can really sink my teeth into something.

I do legit believe FB to be town though, don't buy Adante as obvTown as most people do, T3 seems thr most scummy by content, ircher pings me as town.

Okay then go ahead and Nuke T3

I do like the idea of Sky as well, so I don't have to put effort into figuring them out, which I would be wrong about anyways lol.

But......launch codes have been entered, may God have mercy on us all.

Nuke T3

Why do you scumread me?

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I just realized that we can research 2 things a week lol

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If 2 un-upgraded people nuke someone the probability of both nukes failing is 70%x70%=49%, so the probability of the nuke succeeding is 100%-49%=51%

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I don't think my reads have ever been hot fire lol, except for 2 or 3 Micros. And even if they were hot fire I'm not doing great at convincing others of my reads so that point is moot.

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Explanation 1: Drew is busy, bored, and impulsive town

Explanation 2: Drew decided to nuke me for towncred because he thought that town would think that there's no explanation for why scum would nuke me.

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i don't see how T3 is a bad nuke.
no offense T3 but i have no read on u

I'm a bad nuke target for this reason because you'll probably have a better read on me by Week 2 though because I'm posting a lot. Someone like STD or Peng is a better nuke target than me because they're lurkers and will likely remain unreadable for most of the game.

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this game is probably a reliable measurer of self restraint

It's the marshmallow test!

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[Gamma, Andante, Bell]
[Cephrir, Roden, Firebringer]
[Ircher, UNOwen]
[Cakez, STD]
[Andres, Penguin, Klick, Meuh]------ NULL LINE
[Skygazer, Norwee]
[Doctor Drew, gob]
[Chell, Marci]

Bell I originally would put in lean town but while ISO'ing Klick I found some towny Bell posts so he can go in my top townreads

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Bell has been a constant presence in the thread but I don't have a strong read on him. He's making lots and lots of low-content posts that haven't struck me as AI in the slightest. I don't think I want him nuked today though because I think given his frequent posting he'll likely be a lot more sortable in the later stages of the game. I'd say I'm leaning town on him - we thought some of the same things about the Chell/UNOwen interaction and I've gotten good vibes from him. I played a game with scum!Bell a while ago in which he was really anxious and lurky and was flipped Day 2 and this doesn't feel like that Bell at all. This game was in 2021 or so though.

this bad

Why

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Maybe the real villians are those who refuse to nuke japan right now

why you want to hurt me?

I AM JAPAN

And is Penguin Guam?

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No mocking, goading, provoking, no nuking, you just slide up to FB and are like hey there.

And even in response to my pushes nothing but a wet flop and a request to be left alone to hang with FB.

are u saying u expect mocking, goading and provoking from a town drew or somethin

Yes.

My experience with town!Drew says that this is also true, and when I played with scum!Drew recently he made lots of half-hearted content but was never snarky or confident.

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I’m a bit hesitant to fully scumread Drew just because the game has only been going on for what, 40 hours? The absence of Drew’s snark could indicate that he is struggling to get into the game and/or is busy. However, the main issue I have with this is that when presented with the opportunity to actually get into the game, he chooses not to. As I said before, when I asked him about Andante he tried to make it seem like he was following the game and paying attention even though he clearly wasn’t. He felt the need to fake content.

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I’m a bit hesitant to fully scumread Drew just because the game has only been going on for what, 40 hours? The absence of Drew’s snark could indicate that he is struggling to get into the game and/or is busy. However, the main issue I have with this is that when presented with the opportunity to actually get into the game, he chooses not to. As I said before, when I asked him about Andante he tried to make it seem like he was following the game and paying attention even though he clearly wasn’t. He felt the need to fake content.

drew has made no bones about not being in the game and coasting right now so i have no idea wtf ur fucking talking about

This was in 507, he hadn’t talked about being busy at that point

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I was so excited about this game that I tied to do more analysis than usual. The problem is that I don’t actually know how to do good analysis so my errors get magnified and I look dumber than I already do lol

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V/LA until October 7th. I have lots of big assignments and exams for school, plus I have to take the SAT. I'll still post semi-frequently though.

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Ircher is clearly town lol

why did you originally say this? and do you still think the same?

This is such a random question to ask

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Roden -> Marcistar; Marcistar has been eliminated, she was a New World Order Mafia

LET'S GOOO

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Conspiracy take:
Skygazer was going to kill scum!roden
So therefore teammates ircher and gob both go to kill skygazer with nukes to prevent sky from looking town upon successful killing of Roden.

The conspiracy is all there.
All the pieces coming together

Team: Gob, Ircher, Roden, Andante and one more.

So you think scum is all LHF

Do Roden and Andante really count as LHF though?

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Roden has to be town here I think. He doesn't seem like the type of player to immediately nuke a scumpartner day 1.

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can chell be any more obv town right now

I'm not seeing it

Okay, I'm slightly seeing it but not hugely seeing it.

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would it be bad if I nuked Bell

Yes

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so you didnt actually believe it?

no

Did you at least think Ircher was town or was it a complete ruse

what do you think about ircher

im trying to figure out what i think about him but i lowkey dont know

i remember when i was scum i think i was aiming for his miselim because it was "easy" but idk if im making that up or not

but also i highkey dont rememebr anything hes done

After the Marci scumflip I'm pretty sure Gamma is town too. Her earlier posts towards him felt like weird buddying and pocketing but I dismissed it as 'usual Marci' but this post is just bad. It feels like she tried to find any way she possibly could to interact with Gamma so she could buddy with him. This is basically the only serious post in Marci's ISO of fluff.

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STD is sitting firmly in null for me, but he should still probably be nuked this week or next week. He hasn't done anything overtly towny and is also a lurker who is unlikely to do anything towny in the future.

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STD is sitting firmly in null for me, but he should still probably be nuked this week or next week. He hasn't done anything overtly towny and is also a lurker who is unlikely to do anything towny in the future.

STD played really well in the last game I was in with them. But the context was that they were a mason. This is not an endorsement or an argument that they should live longer because they have the potential to do good.

I also recently player with mason!STD (I was his partner actually!) and he lurked out the entire game.

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But it's 20:40 it would be ridiculous to go to sleep now.

I had an exam day a while back and after my exams I was so tired that I went to sleep at 7:00 PM... then I woke up at 3:00 AM the following day

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Yeah Klick said something like “Gamma plays this way as scum”, later said “she does this as both alignments” and failed to substantiate the read beyond that

Would scum!Klick really do that though? I remember rolling scum with him in a Mini Normal a while back and while he was fairly obvious scum I don't think he ever did anything that overtly strange.

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So there's like, a nuke that is gonna hit me in 2 hours

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I don't want to join Skygazer and gob in heaven though, I haven't even successfully nuked anyone

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Only person I want to nuke is gob
But that’s really only cause there directed questions at me are so lazy

I got my finger on the button, let me know if you want me punch in the launch codes.

who do u want to nuke right now if i said i want u to nuke whoever u think is best

This game is moving quickly mainly when I am busy, I am skimming when I can(like now at work), so shit posting and this Nuke deal with FB is a way to keep coasting until I can really sink my teeth into something.

I do legit believe FB to be town though, don't buy Adante as obvTown as most people do, T3 seems thr most scummy by content, ircher pings me as town.

Okay then go ahead and Nuke T3

I do like the idea of Sky as well, so I don't have to put effort into figuring them out, which I would be wrong about anyways lol.

But......launch codes have been entered, may God have mercy on us all.

Nuke T3

Actually did Drew even say why he scumreads me? I don't think so lol

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Only person I want to nuke is gob
But that’s really only cause there directed questions at me are so lazy

I got my finger on the button, let me know if you want me punch in the launch codes.

who do u want to nuke right now if i said i want u to nuke whoever u think is best

This game is moving quickly mainly when I am busy, I am skimming when I can(like now at work), so shit posting and this Nuke deal with FB is a way to keep coasting until I can really sink my teeth into something.

I do legit believe FB to be town though, don't buy Adante as obvTown as most people do, T3 seems thr most scummy by content, ircher pings me as town.

Okay then go ahead and Nuke T3

I do like the idea of Sky as well, so I don't have to put effort into figuring them out, which I would be wrong about anyways lol.

But......launch codes have been entered, may God have mercy on us all.

Nuke T3

Actually did Drew even say why he scumreads me? I don't think so lol

It's because he's scum

But why would he nuke me in particular

[T3]

Doctor Drew has been online for the past 5 or so minutes but has not posted in the thread...

[T3]

Well now my fate is in the hands of RNGesus

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bro... I laughed about 10 pages a while ago, how are we even at 60.. lol uhhh ok, sorry I won't be able to properly be hrer till either tomorrow night or monday, I feel so dead

The spammer has become the spammed

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Nuke: Gamma Emerald

Abort

I think this is on town with a marci-scum flip actually

I'm gonna come back to this in like half an hour and attempt to level up my reads slightly.

+town for the reevaluation

I don't think Klick actually reevaluated anything - I'm pretty sure I and someone else also said that Gamma is town for the Marci interaction.

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Nuke: Gamma Emerald

Abort

I think this is on town with a marci-scum flip actually

I'm gonna come back to this in like half an hour and attempt to level up my reads slightly.

+town for the reevaluation

I don't think Klick actually reevaluated anything - I'm pretty sure I and someone else also said that Gamma is town for the Marci interaction.

I thought a few hours ago that a post Gamma made felt kinda towny

Then I put the kids to bed and had a think while doing other things for the evening

Then I read this and looked at the first few posts of Gamma's ISO and thought she didn't make any sense as marci's partner

Then I made that post

Fair

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gg

[T3]

the scumteam imploded

well i guess we technically exploded but w/e

[T3]

LOWKEY WE DID WELL WE WERE JUST UNLUCKY

If the nuke on me failed then I think we probably had a 25% chance of pulling off the win