Datisi's University [game over!]

[Alisae]

im gonna vote norwee now

[Alisae]

haha what a funny meme memestar

[Alisae]

Norwee watch out im gonna vote u

[Alisae]

I’m gonna do it give me a minute

[Alisae]

I have to mail my vote in

[Alisae]

I’m gonna vote u any second now

[Alisae]

Nuh uh

[Alisae]

I will not be voting furtive on principal that I think gl should die today and USUALLY when someone says "yo claiming for me is bad right now can I wait a day" that most likely comes from town

[Alisae]

i think even you know guiltylion is gonna flip mafia but you just don't wanna admit it

[Alisae]

your pride would be ruined

[Alisae]

it's okay memestar, it's fine, I am not fond of you because of your mafia competency

[Alisae]

egos abouta be in shambles

[Alisae]

or I look like which is funny in its own way

[Alisae]

I highly doubt that all of the people I am capable of being good at reading are aligned with the mafia (Norwee Titus)

[Alisae]

I do not believe you when you say that Titus is trying to line up lims when an investigation role for the mafia doesn't interact with other roles in the game. You claimed a jailkeeper. You could be mafia true claiming your role. You did not jail Andres when it was very obvious the guy was expected to die and not resolve another shot of his ability. If I was Andres and I had another shot to act w/ during that night phase, I am shooting a villager. I am not expecting to live, but I want to trim the elimination pool.
There is no shot from Andres, occams makes me think he did not shoot.
You did not protect this player.
In fact, I am not aware if you even asked Andres if he COULD act at night tonight. The first thing you did when he said he was a vig, it was not this. In fact, you did not ask for ANY details for how this ability worked. If I was a town JK in your position, I am claiming and letting Andres try to get another shot off.

By the same logic that you wanted to kill me in election, I want to flip you. I am just not engaging with what you are saying because I do not want to give you room to breathe. You are the kind of player that will try to twist logic to suit your own needs and purposes. Logic can be used to reach any conclusion that you want it to reach. Any slot can be justified as any alignment in the game of mafia.
And yet you're the one that I feel like when I post, is trying to push my buttons and trying to make me feel bad. This was during D3 when you believed Dann was a town ascetic who didn't want to claim his modifier, and I vaguely remember seeing this during this day phase as well.

I do not believe you when you say that Norwee is Dann's mafia partner. There are easier ways for read Norwee than associations. To me it just looks like bullshit

[Alisae]

If you are town try again.

[Alisae]

vote gl

[Alisae]

I think it should be obvious Ranger is scum siding 3p. She's overly invested as being labeled town when 3p are often invest immune and she's overly invested in which slot leaves.

I want to work with Ali and NorwegianboyEE.

Hello Titus how can I help you

[Alisae]

did RCE full claim?
I don't think we got full claims out from anyone

[Alisae]

I'll guide through massclaim tomorrow plz we should kill GL

[Alisae]

There’s a fly in my ear that keeps buzzing about KKFC being scum though

Everytime I read their posts it’s so annoying

so this isn't on logic or anything right?

[Alisae]

tempted to throw wheme back into the mafia pool tbh

[Alisae]

they're a player I think needs to be investigated

[Alisae]

idunno sometimes I get a town vibe but at this point the positions are based on magical thinking

[Alisae]

Going to hammer once I finish walking home

no
no hammer
bad

[Alisae]

If Memestar wants you to hammer you should NOT be hammering

[Alisae]

Titus Ranger RCE KKFC Norwee Enchant
Drew
Osuka Dusa
Furtive Wheme
GuiltyLion

There comes a point where eliminating Memestar just becomes +winrate

In fact I kind of want Wheme to claim now actually. I want to know every action he has taken as a PR and why he has taken those actions. I don't wanna wait for massclaim for this and I don't care if I'm outing something strong, this player can claim now. It would probably be +winrate if they are a villager.

My topline is still the same and probably doesn't change, maybe drew goes in there as well. tbh that can also include 3rd party I haven't thought or considered that but right now I kind of just want to murder mafia.

Anything below osuka dusa probably gets flipped by me at some point

[Alisae]

if furtive dies and flips town, probably all remaining mafia alive are trying to save guiltylion right now

[Alisae]

And there is too much support for Furtive as an elim for it not to be scum supported.

I might just be talking to the void though. This lim feels kinda pre-destined.

best thing we can do is look at the current count and see what's up

furtiveglance [6]: Ranger, Doctor Drew, GuiltyLion, WhemeStar, RCEnigma, Enchant
GuiltyLion [4]: Alisae, Titus, furtiveglance, NorwegianboyEE

not voting [3]: osuka, KatyKimFanClub, Dusa

[Alisae]

This day length is making me lethargic

The amount of counterwagoning furtive is getting without any amount of "look at why furtive is town" doesn't make me want to move

I don't like dislike the counters just the overall shape of the discourse at least one scumdriven cw

Idk maybe that's conspiratorial maybe I need repose

me titus have been vouching for guiltylion all day we don't care about furtive right now, we can think about him later and there's no reason why we can't just give him a phase. I would say the current guiltylion wagon formation is really good. It doesn't feel like wolves are on it. This doesn't rly counter furtive because if he's mafia he's probably voting there because its his best vote.

I can't rly explain why the not voters are not voting. I'm only really okay with KKFC being this because he's the only one that consistently throughout the game I feel like has shown villagery thought patterns.
So mafia have to be on the furtive wagon right?
Guiltylion is one of them.
Memestar needs to be flipped.
Ranger is apparently invest inno'd but we don't rly know the nature of it (I don't) and she could be 3rd party. I imagine 3rd party does NOT want to villageside in this gamestate.
Enchant I think is townie and he's acting in ways he acts as town. Maybe his wolfplay is really good and I haven't seen it yet, but I feel like the biggest thing Enchant does when he is village is he just goes where he pleases.
Drew I don't rly have a read on but I think they're good. Guiltylion flipping mafia probably means drew town.
RCE I feel like has moments where he's just responding to situations as a villager.

So like idunno.
Actually write out your thoughts on players or help me kill GuiltyLion.

[Alisae]

osuka I think is mafia is just AFK assuming Dusa is town

[Alisae]

think if mafia

[Alisae]

@gl i dont buy that you didnt jail andres because you wanted him to get a shot off. that's a ridiculous risk to take and im sure you know that

Actually, don’t bother explaining.

I like throwing curveballs.

VOTE: GuiltyLion

this is a weird fucking reaction

i strongly dislike this. is furtive e-what?

interesting posts this day phase

[Alisae]

Lean Town
{RCEnigma, KatyKimFanClub, Alisae [ina marija], furtiveglance}
Slight Lean Town
{NorwegianboyEE, osuka, Enchant [Fire Assassin]}
Uncertain
{Titus, WhemeStar}
Slight Lean Scum
{Dusa, Doctor Drew}
Lean Scum
{Ranger, GuiltyLion}
Scum
{Dannflor}

These are fine for the most part I think

[Alisae]

furtiveglance [6]: Ranger, Doctor Drew, GuiltyLion, WhemeStar, RCEnigma, Enchant
GuiltyLion [4]: Alisae, Titus, furtiveglance, NorwegianboyEE

not voting [3]: osuka, KatyKimFanClub, Dusa

I need osuka to vote GL.
I need KKFC to give me their vote and vote GL.
I need Dusa to want to vote GL.

As long as we agree not to kill Furtive Furtive won't die.

[Alisae]

titus is not mafia sorry try again

[Alisae]

Dont let Ali bring more people to her side!

You think Ali is scum? Wtf

The only reason Memestar won't vote GL is, and I quote, "Both of my townreads (Dann + GL) can't both be wolves Ali"

[Alisae]

Part of me wants to believe furtive is town which REALLY did all these mistakes.

Other part of me tells me if furtive is mafia and gets away with claiming never acting neopolitan, i will be disgraced.

He's not gonna get away with it lmfao they're on the chopping block

[Alisae]

Dont let Ali bring more people to her side!

You think Ali is scum? Wtf

The only reason Memestar won't vote GL is, and I quote, "Both of my townreads (Dann + GL) can't both be wolves Ali"

He really is a super quirky memer isn't he, definitely not just scum with GL...

KIlling him becomes +winrate

[Alisae]

Andres was also saying that Furtive didn't feel teamed

[Alisae]

I think when Dann claimed ascetic and GL immediately went to support them

[Alisae]

GL is straight up panicking here.

I mean GL has been spouting bullshit this entire day phase.
He has to do it to make people think he's town. At this point it's just a formality.

[Alisae]

Dont let Ali bring more people to her side!

You think Ali is scum? Wtf

The only reason Memestar won't vote GL is, and I quote, "Both of my townreads (Dann + GL) can't both be wolves Ali"

I'll try to reach WhemeStar. I had him as town early so maybe he'll come through.

Maybe you can do that but I'm getting to the point of wanting to kill them off because the reasons why he does things is based on magical thinking and he goes where he pleases.

[Alisae]

if he cannot be controlled then he dies.

[Alisae]

The reason I think furtive is more likely to be scum than GL is just the claims. A JK makes sense in the context of Dann flipping strongman, right?

I know this isn't a great way to think about it since it's possible the claim is just fake and there's a protective role who hasn't claimed, but idk.

Jailkeeper can be either alignment in this setup.

[Alisae]

Wolf!Jailkeeper = during night you roleblock someone and you can't kill them.
Strongman + Jailkeep = If you want to roleblock and shoot someone, you have to spend a strongman shot.

Ari flipped Bodyguard.
Snivy was a Loyal Babysitter.

[Alisae]

Jailkeeper is also a good defensive PR if you are aligned with the mafia.
If you jailkeep your wolf partner, it means they can't perform the kill.

[Alisae]

Jailkeeper is also a good defensive PR if you are aligned with the mafia.
If you jailkeep your wolf partner, it means they can't perform the kill.

I wonder how that relates to RCE.

Is RCE's claim known? I haven't rly been paying attention

[Alisae]

Jailkeeper is also a good defensive PR if you are aligned with the mafia.
If you jailkeep your wolf partner, it means they can't perform the kill.

I wonder how that relates to RCE.

Is RCE's claim known? I haven't rly been paying attention

Rce claimed to investigate Ranger. Result can't kill

Think about it more tomorrow I think when all of the cards are on the table

[Alisae]

KKFC vote GL

[Alisae]

btw Titus apparently Memestar has a fos on KKFC but it makes no sense and there is no apparent reasoning behind the read

[Alisae]

I think KKFC is a very obv villager

[Alisae]

KKFC vote GL

Reading iso again

ISO will not help you the guy knows how to look town

[Alisae]

btw Titus apparently Memestar has a fos on KKFC but it makes no sense and there is no apparent reasoning behind the read

I didn't really get this either but I don't want to assume that it's just because he doesn't like me or my posting style

It's not based on anything

[Alisae]

Hence why I call the reasoning for a lot of Meme's reads as "Magical Thinking." The reasoning is magical.

[Alisae]

KKFC the best thing you can do right now is vote with the people who you trust the most

[Alisae]

this is where i am at

Titus Ranger RCE KKFC Norwee Enchant
Drew
Osuka Dusa
Furtive Wheme
GuiltyLion

[Alisae]

So in terms of my reads, I am mostly just thinking of mafia vs town. Idunno how to hunt vs 3rd parties so I’m not crossing that bridge until I have to.

Osaka’s current posting is confusing to me. They made like 2 posts this day phase one is saying “well obv we shouldn’t be buying this gl claim right” and then when Norwee voted gl they said they hated that.

I’m unsure of dusa.

[Alisae]

Osuka has mostly been afk this day and I feel like once we get more flips and we’re forced to actually read the slot, the slot should be readable by that point given everything they’ve done

[Alisae]

How many town do I need to identify to win game

[Alisae]

Because I say so

[Alisae]

With a replacement in and some people on V/LA I personally don't see a point to ending the day soon.
Also, to be honest, I read over GL's iso and there's still not much that I see as independently scummy. I will say that a lot of his interactions with Dann do still seem kind of damning.

Ok vote gl anyways

[Alisae]

I don't get how osuka goes from calling gl out to furtive but considering gl is trying to push wolf!Norwee, I am just going to say that osuka is supporting GL and calling it that

[Alisae]

Ok, if we're eliminating GL, I need one player to claim VT before the hammer. As long as they've studied 100% all days I can confirm them.

Check WhemeStar

[Alisae]

Who you think scum voting btw?

Furtive

[Alisae]

ya

[Alisae]

I knew Ranger was lying. I knew she was survivalistic. Now, we know she's not 3p.

So the question becomes: Is Ranger scum that couldn't expel because she was blocked when RCE investigated her or is she town pissed off that she was caught lying?

Her reads were still survivalistic as fuck but she can't be 3p like I thought. So I'd like input from Ali and NorwegianboyEE.

I'd also like furtiveglance to claim his result (if any).

oh boy

[Alisae]

Well we have no way to actually prove if Ranger is lying right? We can't really know for sure what Enchant told Ranger.
idunno what to make of this LOL.

[Alisae]

oh ranger typed more out

[Alisae]

He also said if he did die to say hi to Norwee.

JAJAJAJAJAJA

[Alisae]

Say hi to Norwee lmao I can't

[Alisae]

honestly idunno what is going on in this game bro ima bounce you guys kill whoever I don't wanna decide things

[Alisae]

Well we have no way to actually prove if Ranger is lying right? We can't really know for sure what Enchant told Ranger.
idunno what to make of this LOL.

Ranger admitted to faking a power role and faking a town result on Enchant (which was proven by the mod flip)....so we have pretty conclusive proof Ranger was lying.

@Cephrir, Everyone scumread furtiveglance but the people who scumread furtiveglance were scummy.

your point?

[Alisae]

I'm never voting Norwee this game

[Alisae]

if he is mafia GG

[Alisae]

For the people who is just saying Ranger is lying, are you just saying that by the nature of "SHE LIED" she is mafia?
Are you saying that villagers would never lie thus Ranger is mafia?
That doesn't make sense to me when she is on an account that has stated herself will lie. Sure, she could be mafia and lying, but if she's town and lying, killing her via day isn't going to change if that was the correct play or not.
I imagine if I was in Ranger's position and I got a message from Enchant trying to ask Ranger to bait Enchant into getting Nightkilled, my first instinct would be to try to figure out what lie does it. It would probably be a poor attempt, but mafia isn't going to guess it's a coordinated play, ms wolves don't rly read into things like that and even if they did it's kinda impossible to identify.

Sure Ranger could be mafia and she killed Enchant for a very specific reason. If we can figure out a reason that works, cool, but until then, I'm going to need more than the surface level "she lied"

[Alisae]

We have 2 elims today.
Am I guiding the village through massclaim yes or no?
if yes post reads and I'll figure out an order.

[Alisae]

We're really far behind but we have 2 elims today so if there is any chance of getting a lead back, today is the best day to do it.

[Alisae]

If your stance is yes and you are voting, unvote.
I don't want votes during massclaim

[Alisae]

I imagine there is a double kill in play?

[Alisae]

We're really far behind but we have 2 elims today so if there is any chance of getting a lead back, today is the best day to do it.

I'm fine with mass claim if everyone else is.

We should do it after we flip Furtiveglance. If Furtiveglance flips town, then we know WhemeStar is town. We can then hold his claim to the back to catch out scum.

If Furtiveglance is scum, we'd probably want WhemeStar to claim first as Furtiveglance would have been using his dying breath to push town!WhemeStar.

whats the difference

[Alisae]

I don't rly have good reasons to TR Ranger so I'm tempted to just ignore everything that involves enchant

[Alisae]

oh hmm

[Alisae]

I kind of want to massclaim before the elim tho

[Alisae]

I guess I'm going to have to read stuff if I want to find out why we need to kill furtive so bad, but if we're going to do it regardless of my opinion then I guess I don't need to bother

Furtiveglance cannot be in elo. No one townreads them. There's no downside mechanically to eliminating furtive here.

when I see this I think they flip town because that means mafia are also okay with him dying

[Alisae]

I think {Ranger, Titus} yields mafia and I don't think they're bussing furtive

[Alisae]

they could both be mafia 1 of them could be mafia

[Alisae]

I just think the group yields mafia

[Alisae]

I guess I'm going to have to read stuff if I want to find out why we need to kill furtive so bad, but if we're going to do it regardless of my opinion then I guess I don't need to bother

Furtiveglance cannot be in elo. No one townreads them. There's no downside mechanically to eliminating furtive here.

It is my job as a game nonreader to be dubious of the accepted truths

Good

[Alisae]

very interested in what you have to say about the game Cephrir.
I wanna do a massclaim

[Alisae]

going to wait for KKFC to out mason before I post massclaim order

[Alisae]

I am making a massclaim order

[Alisae]

kkfc claimed mason

[Alisae]

Hardclaim Mason.

[Alisae]

masons can adjust how they like

[Alisae]

that was always going to be the plan I just didn't think it was worth saying

[Alisae]

I can make an order. Also willing to defer to RCE's order.
Going in some approximate order that isn't scumminess but correlated with it:

Norwe
Cephrir
osuka
WhemeStar
Dusa
Titus
Ranger
Alisae

Claimed: RCE, KKFC, furtive

I want Ranger and Titus up front

[Alisae]

okay
i want titus going first

[Alisae]

if we're ready to start
- no votes during massclaim if you're voting unvote
- claim in order
- claim everything
- After the massclaim is over, wait and think it over before votes come out. It's common knowledge that massclaim once you have a big lead will break large theme games. There are likely elements of this that just become a logic puzzle and the idea is to solve as much as we can before we go into voting.

[Alisae]

If you wanna claim before Wheme that's fine

[Alisae]

I have done 25 SPR 75% studying. I have 100 SPR at the moment. Getting a lot of SPRs early would hand scum kills with nothing to show.

Andres role is straight up out of reach without handing scum a kill (it would cost 300 SPR. I don't know if RCE's would be. Knowing his SPR would be useful to me, but only me, at this point so if he refuses to claim so be it. The only reason I say RCE's is useful is that I suspect he would be the next killed. I'd like to have just enough SPR to use his ability but limit extra kills going to scum. If it's more than 150 just say no. I have enough SPR to pick an action

Early users tend to be lower SPR cost, which means I could scoop up their ability late.

public info about the setup:

1. the basics:

~ using town power roles requires

TPR points

. using scum power roles requires

SPR points

.

In case it wasn't clear, Titus just scumclaimed.

Blatantly so.

Can we please do furtiveglance, who Titus has protected the entire game (and who Dannflor also tried to protect), and then Titus?

why not just titus first?

[Alisae]

Ffs.

I made an error. I am on virtually no sleep and I've been preparing for trials. The intent of the post is clear and you're focused on a gotcha game.

this doesn't help you out at all I'm afraid

[Alisae]

I imagine you have your role pm open when you claim?
so the fact you've been so busy and you're not on sleep makes me think it's more likely that you fucked up

[Alisae]

i mean titus' posting this day phase has made me pretty wary of them
there's a reason I wanted them to go first

[Alisae]

Im a neighborizer but can only use it twice and I decided I am going to use it zero times because no one uses neighborhoods anyways

this is not you claiming everything memestar

[Alisae]

how much did u study on each day

[Alisae]

why does a 2-shot neighborizer take 150 points

[Alisae]

oh i forgot another rule of massclaim is to not talk too much about the claims until the massclaim is over

[Alisae]

anyway next claim

[Alisae]

His information is the scum have a PR costing 10SPR to learn the 3p wincon. He believed they already had done it, looking for slots trying to get nightkilled.

[*]you know that

[REDACTED]

[*]you know that

[REDACTED]

Feel like no one understood this post

Anyway it's my turn huh

I’m st00pid

[Alisae]

Ya it is ur turn tho

[Alisae]

Osuka go

[Alisae]

I thought there was some kind of deeper meaning that u found within the matrix

[Alisae]

vt psychology student i was always studying

[Alisae]

everyone else can be fullclaiming now

[Alisae]

me and osuka

[Alisae]

Norwe - can join masonry?
Cephrir - finds out if 2 people visited each other
osuka - vt
WhemeStar - 2-shot neighborizer
Dusa - gives people points
Titus - a wolf
Ranger - vt
Alisae - vt

Claimed: RCE, KKFC, furtive

[Alisae]

What about the people on the wagons, Titus

Who do you townread

I like

GL

,

Dann

, furtive, DD and

NorwegianboyEE

.

I am more about setting up chess pieces than pushing my own agenda yet. Straight up need more info. I'll get reactions until I get what I need.

[Alisae]

I thought I had way too many townreads, but then revisiting everyone my instincts aren't currently telling me to townread got me to a neat little potential scumpile of furtiveglance, Andres, Wheme, Titus, and Osuka to look at

[Alisae]

VOTE: titus

[Alisae]

wait dusa you acted?

[Alisae]

{NorwegianboyEE, KatyKimFanClub}
{Dusa}
{WhemeStar}
{Alisae, RCEnigma}
{Cephrir}
{osuka}
{furtiveglance}
{Titus}

VOTE: Titus

im honestly super okay with this reads im not gonna lie

[Alisae]

If Titus is scum, then I think Ranger is confirmed town barring an insane bus?

If wek ill osuka furtive titus and hte game isn't over then tbh the person I probably wanna flip the most is ranger LOL

[Alisae]

but ya I think Titus is just mafia and Ranger is just town

[Alisae]

Pretty much ya

[Alisae]

Is rce actually a gunsmith?
Cops show as guilty to gunsmiths so I imagine there woulda been a bigger commotion yesterday cuz ranger claimed cop

[Alisae]

I think using my ability maths out to adding 2.5 SPR points. Does that seem worth it for... approximately a 1% chance of a guilty if I acted randomly

Doesn't sound too good when I put it like that huh. That's clearly not the intended use of my role

SPR????

[Alisae]

what's that?

[Alisae]

when you posted that were you looking at your role pm?

[Alisae]

It’s how Titus uses her role powers.

incredible

[Alisae]

Furtive can u full claim?

[Alisae]

Want to consider Cephrir next because he quite literally made the same mistake Titus did.

[Alisae]

VOTE: Cephrir

[Alisae]

Furtive I don’t understand exactly what it is that u are

[Alisae]

UNVOTE:

[Alisae]

If we kept furtive alive and flipped osuka, who does furtive check

[Alisae]

Want to consider Cephrir next because he quite literally made the same mistake Titus did.

No I didn't. Read what I said.

btw im ngl i was totally rxn testing u

[Alisae]

if I'm not voting furtive i'm voting osuka

[Alisae]

If I'm not killing you you should probably check Ranger?
maybe someone else can come up with something better

[Alisae]

that also sounds terrible tho lol

[Alisae]

whatever dusa says I agree
even if she says im mafia

[Alisae]

if she says im mafia then i must be mafia

[Alisae]

Oh they only check vt’s I forgot

they clarified what their role does bro
you're not even reading lmfao

[Alisae]

VOTE: furtive

[Alisae]

I think we actually have enough eliminations to flip osuka and furtive and get all if the information we want.
best way to think of this, we get 2 miseliminations before we're put into 3-2 if my math is correct

math
currently we're in 8-2
if we kill town that's 7-2
no double kill = 6-2, killing another town is 5-2 and then mafia double kills bringing to 3-2.
double kill = 5-2 in which case we could potentially be fucked if they have double kills back to back. Hopefully considering wheme + norwee + KKFC + cephrir didn't burn points into their abilities, they don't have that many points left over.

[Alisae]

Furtive I don’t understand exactly what it is that u are

I target a player for 80 points (+20 for each further use), and find out if they are town who studied 100% on all weeks (days) so far. I automatically get a no on scum. So basically I can study 0% today for another check, or I can just study 100% if I'm gonna get voted.

[Alisae]

UNVOTE:

[Alisae]

Or KKFC/Norwee/Dusa i guess

what are KKFC Norwee and Dusa's roles

[Alisae]

Or KKFC/Norwee/Dusa i guess

what are KKFC Norwee and Dusa's roles

?

ok so you know
in that case why would we check those people

[Alisae]

maaaaaybe a green check on dusa is ok but I feel like there are better things we could be doing?

[Alisae]

okay

[Alisae]

at least u seem town

[Alisae]

Furtive fuck the clear

[Alisae]

Let’s just play for info and get osuka and furtive flips

[Alisae]

I think we just kill furtive

[Alisae]

sure idrc

[Alisae]

do we just vote osuka

[Alisae]

you are in poe

[Alisae]

that is all there is to it

[Alisae]

both flipping you and furtive as major wagons that happened in this game is good.

[Alisae]

UNVOTE: furtive dead air dead villager

[Alisae]

VOTE: osuka
I’m ngl I thought I was still voting furtive

[Alisae]

Meh better play let’s do nothing until someone comes up with something better to do UNVOTE:

[Alisae]

i feel like i should be voting osuka but it's hard because i have literally no idea why we're voting osuka

do u know why anything has happened in this game

[Alisae]

dubious of the accepted truths would u say you've been so far

[Alisae]

VOTE: osuka

[Alisae]

WhemeStar is like, not confirmed, right

Ya he's probably the 2nd person I would want to vote out

[Alisae]

in fact I kinda wanna do it more than osuka

[Alisae]

why is there a 2-shot neighborizer in this game btw?
that seems like a straight up bait and it sounds terrible
his 2nd shot costs more points as well? why?

[Alisae]

VOTE: wheme

[Alisae]

I haven't read everything but I feel for Wheme. I had one game many years ago. Legit scumslip on post 18. Didn't lim it.

Most "slips" are not slips however.

this could be a wolf talking about a wolf.

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We're really far behind but we have 2 elims today so if there is any chance of getting a lead back, today is the best day to do it.

I'm fine with mass claim if everyone else is.

We should do it after we flip Furtiveglance. If Furtiveglance flips town, then we know WhemeStar is town. We can then hold his claim to the back to catch out scum.

If Furtiveglance is scum, we'd probably want WhemeStar to claim first as Furtiveglance would have been using his dying breath to push town!WhemeStar.

this stands out to me. What was Titus' plan here?

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Seems like Wheme is afk. I expect to start a trial Thursday. RCE do you want me to claim first or last?

I remember seeing this and felt like something was off about it. Let me get context

[Alisae]

i think wheme makes more sense to kill given they're on guiltylion and they were at first like "I don't rly wanna do that" and then they changed their vote.
Seemed like they could have played that in mind knowing all of the answers

[Alisae]

Recency bias but does going "why did we forget furtive is openwolf" secure a game for scumsuka? I think he would like at least analyze the wagon in a way that looks cool or something

I don't care about something like this

[Alisae]

in my eyes if it's not wheme I probably just vote off osuka

[Alisae]

I'll figure out who the last one is in F4 or F3 if it comes to that when it comes to that

[Alisae]

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[Alisae]

Sounds about right

[Alisae]

I'll figure out who the last one is in F4 or F3 if it comes to that when it comes to that

My pocket scumread is Norwee. Scum haven’t double killed yet which tells me they’ve been using the spr they do have to fire off abilities.

So there is an outside possibility that furtive rolecopped kkfc and Norwee used it for a claim then killed off kkfc to confirm the role exists to us.

I don’t really know if there is a hood actually open or not. Not a pressing issue just something to think on if we misfire a couple shots.

if norwee was a wolf that means kkfc's role is a bait because no one else claimed norwee's role.

[Alisae]

if norwee was a wolf, that's a terrible play for norwee to make. He just gets caught out and punished by the real pair claiming

[Alisae]

happy to give norwee the win if he's mafia

[Alisae]

RCE can u threaten another gunsmith shot?
double kill doesn't matter here

[Alisae]

I actually hope you threatened gunsmith shot earlier and played to it but you probably just studied didn't you

[Alisae]

this game was always a town win regardless of what andres did tbh

[Alisae]

he certainly did help but Dann would have been voted out eventually regardless

[Alisae]

Even if you thought you were going to die, you should be playing to it anyways

[Alisae]

if ur town, keeping you alive is being pretty greedy because you're a direct threat to whomever is a wolf.
Cephrir can also start producing clears if he guesses right on night kills. We can put him on RCE so if anyone tries to take out the gunsmith we get a clear out of it.

[Alisae]

Ehhh I doubt it. The slots that could feasibly push dann would have been like….you. Maybe Dusa flips and ends up scumreading them but no one else really had the….err charisma to get that elim through that wasn’t explicitly townreading dann.

wolves can't rly ever kill me tbh and I'm confident in my abilities to try to push through the elim but my charisma has been in the gutter I doubt I explain my read well.

[Alisae]

I didn’t want a double kill to put town in a corner. I’m fine playing vanilla.

we have 2 miselims and if they doublekill it puts us back on odds. Only thing that would suck is like back to back double kills but I'm not sure that's even possible. KKFC was pretty good to math it out but I haven't checked the math.

[Alisae]

if ur town, keeping you alive is being pretty greedy because you're a direct threat to whomever is a wolf.
Cephrir can also start producing clears if he guesses right on night kills. We can put him on RCE so if anyone tries to take out the gunsmith we get a clear out of it.

bonus:
norwee likely becomes the "safe" kill in this situation for wolves, so cephrir can threaten a clear off of an RCE kill but then switch onto the safe kill and get a clear.

anyone else is likely a kill that the village is happy with.

[Alisae]

[night abilities]: architecture uni chat [cost: 200 TPR points] - during the weekend, activate this ability. assuming no interference with your action, you will gain access to the architecture uni chat PT. you know that only players aligned with the psychology club are able to gain access to it.

[Alisae]

if norwee was a wolf, that's a terrible play for norwee to make. He just gets caught out and punished by the real pair claiming

What makes you say it’s a pair? There doesn’t have to be another architect in the game. Kkfc fires his shot and makes a pt that players can *potentially* be moved into.

I don’t think there has to be two.

see ability this is not how that works and no one else claimed it.
role by itself seems troll and bastard

[Alisae]

Ehhh I doubt it. The slots that could feasibly push dann would have been like….you. Maybe Dusa flips and ends up scumreading them but no one else really had the….err charisma to get that elim through that wasn’t explicitly townreading dann.

wolves can't rly ever kill me tbh and I'm confident in my abilities to try to push through the elim but my charisma has been in the gutter I doubt I explain my read well.

Yeah but you were on the back foot as far as being active in the gamestate on rep in. A lot of your town pull was from your predecessor so scum don’t really have to elim you, just downplay your status in the town and they’d be fine.

I don't fight on that axis

[Alisae]

a lot of how I got GL killed is how I get most people killed.
I play towards the people who get me votes.

[Alisae]

[night abilities]: architecture uni chat [cost: 200 TPR points] - during the weekend, activate this ability. assuming no interference with your action, you will gain access to the architecture uni chat PT. you know that only players aligned with the psychology club are able to gain access to it.

I’m assuming any player aligned with the town are able to gain access to it… somehow? Maybe it’s just worded weird to my brain.

no

[Alisae]

I think we should be playing for clears in this gamestate

[Alisae]

if they're smart and they have access to double kill, this also forces double kill onto rce and cephrir which I think is something the village is also happy with

[Alisae]

i mean if the game is still going by that point it becomes ranger (cleared off of RCE townflip), Norwee (Mason), Me, Dusa, osuka.
From my POV I love this. It probably also means I lose F3 if Dusa is mafia because she just shoots Norwee and Ranger likely votes with her. Very unlikely this is the case though because she's still got a TR on me. If she's mafia, TRing me like how she is is probably just not a very good idea.

[Alisae]

Also if RCE gets another clear and is alive to threaten to do it again that's also huge

[Alisae]

Gg ez game

[Alisae]

did really NOBODY notice that whemestar claimed the same flavour that dannflor claimed? really???

state of the game