DEFCON 6.0 - GAME OVER!

[Cephrir]

Why are we like this

[Cephrir]

I just wanna be mad with power at a reasonable pace

[Cephrir]

std and firebringer are both scummy but i only have 1 nuke what shall i do :/

research mirv -> target them both

Counterpoint: dont target either of them because they're fun to play with

[Cephrir]

Just those two really

[Cephrir]

That's fair since marci looks town if anything

[Cephrir]

I feel it probably doesn't translate since the other games had roles to claim

[Cephrir]

Bring what up
And wrt instant gratification, I guess I can accommodate some speed upgrades but at least give the target a chance to give final thoughts?

Speed being obviously mafia aligned.

is it??? i think it just sucks but i wasnt gonna say it

[Cephrir]

That's fair since marci looks town if anything

Did marci look town when T3 launched the nuke though?

a little, yeah

[Cephrir]

in what way is chell scum

[Cephrir]

cephy omegatown

-klick

pedit oh this joke doesn't land now

[Cephrir]

i think chell is town and i'm not sure whether unowen is scum or just a goober

[Cephrir]

Can we even use our nukes yet? I’d ask but I’m at work and too busy being a bad employee.

you either didn't read page one of the game or you are intentionally dumb telling

Yes.

[Cephrir]

everyone has nukes, belladonna

unless i'm the one confused

[Cephrir]

I feel it probably doesn't translate since the other games had roles to claim

tmi??

the rules contain the word mountainous

[Cephrir]

Last gun game i played it consisted of town banding together and all agreeing on a scummy slot we all mass shoot our nukes at, and if anyone deviated from that or made errant scummy shots we murdered them.

In that aspect wouldn't it be best if we focus on letting people we townread make the best upgrades and then let the scummy slots make less potent upgrades, and if they deviate from it we mass nuke them as well.

Of course this strategy depends on us being good at finding slots we are fairly certain to be town from early on.

have you considered that that is literally no fun whatsoever

[Cephrir]

Last gun game i played it consisted of town banding together and all agreeing on a scummy slot we all mass shoot our nukes at, and if anyone deviated from that or made errant scummy shots we murdered them.

In that aspect wouldn't it be best if we focus on letting people we townread make the best upgrades and then let the scummy slots make less potent upgrades, and if they deviate from it we mass nuke them as well.

Of course this strategy depends on us being good at finding slots we are fairly certain to be town from early on.

have you considered that that is literally no fun whatsoever

Why would how fun it is be relevant though.

I'm perfectly capable of having fun even in the most intense and bloodthirsty of environments though so maybe i'm the outlier here.

if you can't answer that question on my own i don't think i can help you dude

[Cephrir]

your own*

[Cephrir]

i am suggesting we not play optimal because i'd rather have fun

it's not rocket science

[Cephrir]

i know we love talking about meta on mafiascum dot net but now we tryina use those terms on someone who doesn't even have meta

[Cephrir]

...does a player's death abort their nukes? that's not how any prior defcon game has worked

[Cephrir]

...does a player's death abort their nukes? that's not how any prior defcon game has worked

Maybe I’m missing something but once the nuke is in the air it’s in the air so counter nuking only really works in the event they launch the “winning” nukes and get counter wrecked as the last remaining scum.

Yeah that's the idea. The strategy is to stop a mass-nuke endgame plan from going through. As long as the counter threat exists, they can't coordinate.

Besides that...I don't see a town reason for investing in MIRV. It's only purpose is to hit as many people as possible since you can't double target somebody with MIRV.

it increases your overall firepower faster than lethality at the start - if you have 2 scumreads, it's fine. i was planning on a small investment there

[Cephrir]

Firebringer shitposting on page 12 when asked a genuine question is weird.

least correct post in the game so far

[Cephrir]

Are you fuckers shitting me? I get my first game with Marci in probably over a year and you pull this?

The nukes could still be retracted. Make your case.

My case at that point was just “I want to play with Marci, back off”

Do you think marcistar is town? If so, you still have a chance to save them from the nukes.

mmm I kinda got a scumping from a post but I also think Cephrir’s read might be one I should consider when reading her?

@Cephrir

I think you read our hydra correctly in LOST, was that based on a particular head’s posting?

no idea tbh

[Cephrir]

it seems like you already realized you didnt want to send a nuke because of work in 294

+1 Andante's reasoning here for aborting is off.

what about it is off? I AM LITERALLY NOT GOING TO BE AROUND MUCH IN THE NEXT 48 HOURS. I WOULD PREFER TO WAIT UNTIL I CAN BE AROUND MORE. idk how many times I have said it

the series of events was

> you said you realized you didn't want to nuke because of work
> you nuked anyway
> you aborted
> people asked why you aborted
> you said you realized you didn't want to nuke because of work

why did you nuke if you already knew you didn't want to because of work

you're missing the part I went into gamma's ISO and said it was really really bad, and gamma started posting immediately after the andante/uno/chell stuff, yet refused to comment on it

and gob did something worse than that to cause you to try to switch to them?

[Cephrir]

Nuke: T3

Abort launch

I think I feel good about T3 so I’m gonna stop the firing now
Would still like if he could call off the strike on Marci, yeah I don’t have a sure feeling she’s town but ffs I think I’m allowed to call in this favor given I’ve seen other players abjectly refuse to go after certain players at all regardless of the game situation

it is a bit early to be mad about that i think

[Cephrir]

why do you scum read me t3

Your questioning of me in 248 felt a little fake, and then when I responded to it there was just no follow-up on your part. The main thing though is that I just don't see where you're coming from with a lot of your questions and reads. As in, I don't understand how a town could think to ask the questions that you're asking and provide the reads that you're expressing.

For example, in 84 you asked about Gamma's WIM. Up to that point, Gamma had expressed some scumreads and mechanical considerations but I don't think you could describe him as having a highly abnormal amount of WIM. I didn't fully get your explanation in 91 - it looked more like a post-hoc justification of what someone thinks a townie might ask about rather than an actual, genuine reason for asking a question. Your scumread of Norwee in 206 didn't make sense to me either, and again, it felt like a post-hoc justification for something that a townie might ask about.

I

can

see a world in which we're both town but we're on completely different wavelengths but there's just so much in your ISO that pings me in the exact same way. The thing that turns me off the "town on completely different wavelengths" theory is that twice I asked you about your read of Bell in 93, but you just never responded to my question.

honestly tempted to nuke this for the sheer level of nonsense

[Cephrir]

But thats not going to be helpful for my mission of getting nuked
so i am calling him a dirty racoon.

procyoniphobic

[Cephrir]

i feel problematic

[Cephrir]

I can't grok the chell scumreads at all, nor why multiple players seem to keep picking on completely innocuous posts of hers to attack.

[Cephrir]

t3 kinda feels like he just picked something completely random out of my iso to say he liked

notice how andante avoided nuking her purported strong scum read in UNOwen and instead opted for Gamma who has already used at least one nuke this phase

These are some extremely moustache-twirly posts here btw folks.

Like bro what those are super normal and in fact contain solving idgi

[Cephrir]

Can't pocket you if you're dead

[Cephrir]

If this exchange results in an alive unowen and a flipped town chell I'm nuking unowen

[Cephrir]

It's because Chell is like the towniest player in the game so naturally she must die and half the players sussing her are scum

I think the way t3 went for it, in hindsight even though I severely disagree with everything he said, was town

[Cephrir]

Like bro what those are super normal and in fact contain solving idgi

Nah they are angling to get me to nuke either T3 or Andante instead of doing the obvious retaliation attack.

She's not angling to get you to do anything!!! You obviously have no interest in listening to her, so that doesn't make sense!!!

[Cephrir]

notice how andante avoided nuking her purported strong scum read in UNOwen and instead opted for Gamma who has already used at least one nuke this phase

The implication here is that Andante didn't nuke me because she's afraid I would have just nuked her back - which might seem reasonable since I had said that I did have suspicion. But obviously that makes no sense if Chell thinks I'm scum, in which case the reason Andante scum wouldn't nuke me is because I'm her buddy!

Yes if you make up a motivation that her post doesn't say then another possible motivation will not fit with it

I think I've seen enough

[Cephrir]

Yes if you make up a motivation that her post doesn't say then another possible motivation will not fit with it

I think I've seen enough

???
How does that even relate to the point?

Why can't the primary implication of that post be that andante is scum with you rather than what you said

[Cephrir]

ok, i see that now

still don't understand why you think i would taunt you and try to get you to nuke me but also be like subtly trying to angle you into nuking elsewhere

Yeah, I know it's not perfect. I'm not sure. Maybe you decided that I was too play it safe to actually nuke you back and by taunting me you'd make me more likely to just lump you into the "overconfident towny" bucket.

This is what happens when you start from the conclusion

[Cephrir]

Why can't the primary implication of that post be that andante is scum with you rather than what you said

Because within that post is the implication that Andante nuked Gamma because she was unlikely to nuke back (or at least only send a low probability nuke back) rather than because she's town.

why can't we have both?

[Cephrir]

notice how andante avoided nuking her purported strong scum read in UNOwen and instead opted for Gamma who has already used at least one nuke this phase

The implication here is that Andante didn't nuke me because she's afraid I would have just nuked her back - which might seem reasonable since I had said that I did have suspicion. But obviously that makes no sense if Chell thinks I'm scum, in which case the reason Andante scum wouldn't nuke me is because I'm her buddy!

Yes if you make up a motivation that her post doesn't say then another possible motivation will not fit with it

I think I've seen enough

Say it straight, do you think they’re scum?
Or do you think their reasoning is bad?
Or both.

i think they're scum and if they survive this nuke i am planning to threaten them with mine to get them to abort

[Cephrir]

Hmm idk about norwee i think i need more time there first.

Anyways its confirmed i know the scumteam (im a very good player) its doctor, bell, gob, ircher, t3 and penguin

Im so op right guys?

Give me a reason why I should retract my nuke on you again?

is the implication of this post that suspecting you is a reason you are not interested in retracting it?

[Cephrir]

marcistar is town

[Cephrir]

this game is way easier if i just let myself believe stuff

[Cephrir]

ok good

[Cephrir]

anyway i think she sounds very at ease and i think that's difficult for her as scum

[Cephrir]

It seems like Marci is trying really really hard to make it seem like she feels absolutely no pressure whatsoever, and give the impression that she's town who is cool as a cucumber in the face of multiple nukes and scumreads. Her enthusiasm and shitposting feel super forced.

i guess your loathing of occam's razor is at least, consistent

[Cephrir]

u cant be the center of the universe because i am the center of the universe

[Cephrir]

i guess you would rather believe chell is a 12D chess player than consider for a moment that she could be town.

i think that is because you're scum

next

[Cephrir]

anyway i think she sounds very at ease and i think that's difficult for her as scum

I’ve been told this before but I recall this not being as easy a call as people have made it out to be.

ya ive probably messed it up before but it feels good enough for right now

[Cephrir]

i feel like i have heard the way she speaks somewhere before but i cannot place it

we should leave her to secret alt in peace anyway tho

[Cephrir]

Why do you think it’s targeted at you specifically?

because I was set to make a retaliation strike

This is the kind of batshit crazy theory that usually comes from town lol. Idk where I stand on UNOwen right now - I scumread him earlier and I thought that Chell could be bussing but now I'm not sure.

they literally nuked each other and you still think they're bussing

bruh

[Cephrir]

@unowen

abort your nuke or eat mine. the choice is yours

[Cephrir]

Nuke UNOwen

[Cephrir]

PS if you correctly guessed that I was going to nuke you either way, good read

[Cephrir]

Hmm.

Is this the kind of post that you consider the impact of before you post it, or is it actually off the cuff? What were you considering in your mind as you typed this up and clicked or tapped 'Submit'?

I was thinking about whether cephrir nuking them regardless of whether they canceled or not to be self defeating if they were genuinely trying to pressure them to stop.

They aren’t really asking others to defend chell either. They’re just kind of alone, but I didn’t want to say anything because calling them out for it wouldn’t be conducive to my interest in Unowen’s response.

I considered trying to recruit klick but at a certain point the red button does become too shiny

[Cephrir]

Hmm.

Is this the kind of post that you consider the impact of before you post it, or is it actually off the cuff? What were you considering in your mind as you typed this up and clicked or tapped 'Submit'?

I was thinking about whether cephrir nuking them regardless of whether they canceled or not to be self defeating if they were genuinely trying to pressure them to stop.

They aren’t really asking others to defend chell either. They’re just kind of alone, but I didn’t want to say anything because calling them out for it wouldn’t be conducive to my interest in Unowen’s response.

I considered trying to recruit klick but at a certain point the red button does become too shiny

Also I forgot

[Cephrir]

Only person I want to nuke is gob
But that’s really only cause there directed questions at me are so lazy

I got my finger on the button, let me know if you want me punch in the launch codes.

We get it. Do you have any content tho

[Cephrir]

Gut dislike roden which historically means he is town

[Cephrir]

… ugh fine.

VOTE: Nuke drew

Good nuke

[Cephrir]

Penguin, I do want to apologize for a joke I made in Utopia, didn't realize the whole situation and I felt shitty about it afterwards.

I do wonder why Bell has had it out for me basically from the jump, is shit posting a scum tell to you?

I know Cephir will basically always scum read me lol, but not sure why UNO is so happy about the nuke on me.

And why is Gob asking about me? There have been others that have been on the fringe as well.

I actually kinda wish I nuked gob over T3, ngl.

But Nuke partnership and all that lol.

The discredit of my ability to read you ignores me correctly catching you as scum in another game wherein you also admitted I had the correct reason in game.

I've learned your ways

[Cephrir]

Penguin, I do want to apologize for a joke I made in Utopia, didn't realize the whole situation and I felt shitty about it afterwards.

I do wonder why Bell has had it out for me basically from the jump, is shit posting a scum tell to you?

I know Cephir will basically always scum read me lol, but not sure why UNO is so happy about the nuke on me.

And why is Gob asking about me? There have been others that have been on the fringe as well.

I actually kinda wish I nuked gob over T3, ngl.

But Nuke partnership and all that lol.

Waste of space and entirely different approach to the game comparatively to the last one.

I'm not even alone here.

[Cephrir]

cephrir im surprised u haven't commented on my townread on u

It's my right by birth

[Cephrir]

T3 and I haven't aborted our nukes yet.

how good u feeling about that btw

I'm back and forth on it. I'm not getting much out of her posts, and I usually find her a lot easier to read. But I've noticed that there hasn't really been noise surrounding her either; she's often a contentious slot in the games I've played, but here I just sense apathy from her and everyone else around her fate. Like yeah some people town read her, but there's no real effort to convince me and T3 to abort.

Game state feels like she's more likely town than not, so I'll most likely abort before the deadline. But it feels weird.

I think Marci is town but they aren't doing anything that we can defend. Although after I called them out for not doing anything I felt like Marci started to do stuff so she may just be town

In my experience turning on a dime when called out on a behavior is a scum trait?

[Cephrir]

I guess what I really mean is I did it once and cruised thru the rest of the game on it

[Cephrir]

Damn sircakes will be able to catch me now because he didn't read the intricate web I'm weaving

[Cephrir]

You see you guys, I told you Marci got better.

You win this round

[Cephrir]

Roden has to be town here I think. He doesn't seem like the type of player to immediately nuke a scumpartner day 1.

disagree - not saying he's scum here but he is absolutely capable of bigbrain plays

[Cephrir]

STD is sitting firmly in null for me, but he should still probably be nuked this week or next week. He hasn't done anything overtly towny and is also a lurker who is unlikely to do anything towny in the future.

STD played really well in the last game I was in with them. But the context was that they were a mason. This is not an endorsement or an argument that they should live longer because they have the potential to do good.

I also recently player with mason!STD (I was his partner actually!) and he lurked out the entire game.

i want some of these mason PMs ;_;

[Cephrir]

why nuke at all if you don't have a real read

[Cephrir]

why nuke at all if you don't have a real read

Is this a real question?

not really i just want to play with std

[Cephrir]

Only person I want to nuke is gob
But that’s really only cause there directed questions at me are so lazy

I got my finger on the button, let me know if you want me punch in the launch codes.

who do u want to nuke right now if i said i want u to nuke whoever u think is best

This game is moving quickly mainly when I am busy, I am skimming when I can(like now at work), so shit posting and this Nuke deal with FB is a way to keep coasting until I can really sink my teeth into something.

I do legit believe FB to be town though, don't buy Adante as obvTown as most people do, T3 seems thr most scummy by content, ircher pings me as town.

Okay then go ahead and Nuke T3

I do like the idea of Sky as well, so I don't have to put effort into figuring them out, which I would be wrong about anyways lol.

But......launch codes have been entered, may God have mercy on us all.

Nuke T3

Actually did Drew even say why he scumreads me? I don't think so lol

It's because he's scum

[Cephrir]

somewhere in the Himalayas

In a hidden lair nestled deep within the treacherous mountains, the infamous evil mastermind known as T3 plotted his malevolent schemes. For years, he had terrorized the world with his cunning and ruthless ways. His underground fortress was a testament to his diabolical genius, a place where he hatched nefarious plans to conquer and control.

But the world had had enough. Intelligence agencies from around the globe had finally tracked down T3's lair. They gathered their forces, determined to put an end to his reign of terror once and for all.

As the strike loomed closer, T3, in his arrogance, believed he was untouchable. Surrounded by his loyal minions and elaborate security systems, he laughed off the threats and taunted his pursuers.

But on the fateful day, when the world's combined forces unleashed a devastating nuclear strike, T3's laughter turned to terror. The ground shook, and the walls of his lair crumbled. In a blinding flash of light and a deafening roar, his fortress was reduced to ruins, and T3's reign of evil met its cataclysmic end.

As the smoke cleared and the world watched in somber relief, it was a stark reminder that even the most sinister of masterminds could be brought to justice. T3's name would live on in infamy, not as a symbol of power, but as a cautionary tale of the consequences that awaited those who chose the path of darkness.

Missile Impact Report

Doctor Drew -> T3 ; T3 has been eliminated, he was a

New World Order Mafia

oh ok

we love to get lucky, team

[Cephrir]

Ceph, ambiguous statements are bad for my heart.

i may be a tease but not THAT much

[Cephrir]

It seems like Marci is trying really really hard to make it seem like she feels absolutely no pressure whatsoever, and give the impression that she's town who is cool as a cucumber in the face of multiple nukes and scumreads. Her enthusiasm and shitposting feel super forced.

i guess your loathing of occam's razor is at least, consistent

he tried so hard to slam through this nonsense scumread on his partner that i wonder if i can evaluate the rest in a normal manner

[Cephrir]

why do you scum read me t3

Your questioning of me in 248 felt a little fake, and then when I responded to it there was just no follow-up on your part. The main thing though is that I just don't see where you're coming from with a lot of your questions and reads. As in, I don't understand how a town could think to ask the questions that you're asking and provide the reads that you're expressing.

For example, in 84 you asked about Gamma's WIM. Up to that point, Gamma had expressed some scumreads and mechanical considerations but I don't think you could describe him as having a highly abnormal amount of WIM. I didn't fully get your explanation in 91 - it looked more like a post-hoc justification of what someone thinks a townie might ask about rather than an actual, genuine reason for asking a question. Your scumread of Norwee in 206 didn't make sense to me either, and again, it felt like a post-hoc justification for something that a townie might ask about.

I

can

see a world in which we're both town but we're on completely different wavelengths but there's just so much in your ISO that pings me in the exact same way. The thing that turns me off the "town on completely different wavelengths" theory is that twice I asked you about your read of Bell in 93, but you just never responded to my question.

i was planning to go at this and say "ready to abort now unowen" but actually this is also an exceptionally forced scumread lol

[Cephrir]

ircher can get blown off the face of the earth anytime as far as im concerned

[Cephrir]

cephrir what do u think if i nuked andres instead of ircher

i don't see any way in which nuking that player is better than random

[Cephrir]

somehow, ircher has found the most optimally useless way to catch up with a game

Then how would you suggest catching up 30+ pages in the span of an hour? If I tried resuming reading from where I last was (page 30), I'd be accused of being perpetually stuck in the past.

massive quote walls catching up backwards are worse than massive quote walls catching up forwards

both are terrible

Okay, so in other words, you just don't like quote walls.

honestly don't do them. they tend to add very little. just read it and don't post until you're caught up??

[Cephrir]

if i was the dictator of nukes right now this is how i would dictate all remaining nukes:

penguinpower nukes Meuh
Norwee Nukes Ircher
I nuke Andres
Meuh nukes Cephrir cause I have no found paranoia on him.
Andres doesn't come back so i can't order him to nuke anyone.

do it yourself coward

[Cephrir]

cephrir what do u think if i nuked andres instead of ircher

i don't see any way in which nuking that player is better than random

this post makes me want to nuke andres more with my newfound paranoia on u and how u worded this reply

*spooky jazz hands*

[Cephrir]

i feel cephrir has this annoyed tone in his posts from this game that i don't understand the source of.
it makes more sense him being annoyed that he is scum and his team is fucking up and falling apart imo

i didn't know i was annoyed. thank u for the tip

[Cephrir]

i even looked back at my own posts to see if i seem grumpy and idk what ur talking about, aside from 1694

[Cephrir]

I'm just sassy I'm not annoyed by this game at all =_=

[Cephrir]

Another thing about Chell town is that they haven’t been phased by the flips any.

No awkward comments. No seeming need to process and going quiet or at least seeming any different.

Gameplay equivalent of They’re not stuttering in other words.

T3 flip is significant
Hmmmm

Lol

[Cephrir]

I'm tired of reading posts that begin with "if chell is scum." She's not even a difficult sort here

[Cephrir]

i don't remember third parties in previous defcons but i think survivor makes the most sense

They've been SKs

I think they're an SK, and they probably have some sort of other power to give them a chance. Maybe the Submarine from previous iterations and/or nukes under 100% lethality just never hit them or smth

[Cephrir]

cephrir is StD town?

I don't know he hasn't posted anything for me to read

[Cephrir]

I was imagining their power could be considered part of "with nukes"

Idk it seems like they have to have something otherwise what is the point

[Cephrir]

I guess it does say third party and not terrorist so

Maybe ur right

[Cephrir]

Mm maybe they have a different upgrade chart then

Thanks for sharing the scums research w us

[Cephrir]

Live foolish bb

Hey maybe drew is still scum and I'm a genius

[Cephrir]

honestly meuh's iso does look like a survivor who has no idea how to play survivor

[Cephrir]

she does what now

[Cephrir]

i feel like her communication style in and outside of mafia is pretty similar but sure

[Cephrir]

v is certainly a niche answer for what survivor player you want to model your game after for new contestants but maybe that's because they prefer to pick people who will say parvati

[Cephrir]

bell is town lmao

[Cephrir]

u could always sit on it and nuke unowen again if he lives

there's no upper bound to the number of nukes it is optimal to fire at him

[Cephrir]

My disappointment is immeasurable

[Cephrir]

it's firebringer. what do you expect him to do, claim town and ask to live

[Cephrir]

firebringer is probably the deepwolf but i can’t scum read him openly or he won’t be the deepwolf anymore

wrong. he is clearly a dog

[Cephrir]

i would suggest that we shut up during this dull time to give the behind people time to catch up but i wonder if they perhaps have no intention of catching up anyway

[Cephrir]

i would suggest that we shut up during this dull time to give the behind people time to catch up but i wonder if they perhaps have no intention of catching up anyway

Who are the behind people?

Uhhh ircher Andres... STD? probably someone else

[Cephrir]

Oh ok are we not doing fun anymore that's a shame

I don't share the confidence level but if that's what we wanna do I guess

[Cephrir]

And they were never heard from again

[Cephrir]

who u gonna nuke in week 2 cephy?

now now. that would be telling

[Cephrir]

aaaand there's scum #3

[Cephrir]

aaaand there's scum #3

If I’m right, will you take this back?

yep

[Cephrir]

What other information is there that tells you that Sir Cakez is Town? I haven’t seen any. They’re making it crystal clear the only reason anyone should TR them is because they got shot at by confirmed Scum. I’m calling bullshit.

i mean it's actually not a completely outlandish idea to me and if someone who wasn't both widely suspected and being nuked right now had it i would give it more credence

[Cephrir]

It’s a safe shot because
-1: you’re not doing anything so it’s hard to criticize: see, general player response ambivalent.

i think i was pretty good at criticizing it. please give me my town necklace now

[Cephrir]

[Cephrir]

Is this set up usually this swingy? Or is this just how it goes when everyone can day kill and it's super easy to punish bad/scummy shots?

i am under the impression the setup has been changed significantly for this run and i think it is townsided now

[Cephrir]

Would the boring but efficient play here be to have the towniest slots nuke Ircher, then have scummy and null slots aim for who they think is the final scum?

Surely it's the opposite of that

[Cephrir]

This game is so easy

[Cephrir]

ooof I was liking ircher...

girl

ircher is literally claiming scum

it's not subtle and i'm not exaggerating

[Cephrir]

There aren't enough nukes flying.

idk cephhhh, this post was fun!!! cause like yeah!!! it made me wanna hip my nuke

did you read the ones where he nukes the towniest slot and then says other people should nuke obvtown too, that he nearly nuked someone else who's almost as obvtown, and then joked that his nuke target is an "obvious deep wolf"

[Cephrir]

he's literally outing and nuking the towniest slot because he's about to die this is not brain surgery

[Cephrir]

i guess i need to sit on my nuke for a little while in case the game has a collective stroke and doesn't kill ircher

[Cephrir]

feels scum claimy from unowen too tbh

much like his entire iso

[Cephrir]

I'm so tempted to just nuke uno right now

i support this product and or service

[Cephrir]

i support this product and or service

If you’re sure I’m scum why is your nuke still on the ground?

If only there were some way for you to find the answer to this question

[Cephrir]

u did that urself by agreeing with andante

Ok yes that’s true

Cephrir not nuking me is bad look though

Good job you're totally expanding the lim pool this is super working

[Cephrir]

oh yeah andante is literally never ever mafia here huh

[Cephrir]

I should just nuke myself at this point

[Cephrir]

Yeah, the double nuke
Why is he going on such low odds to hit?

If he's upgraded it twice it's not really that bad

[Cephrir]

Probability hates them! Lose DEFCON 6.0 with this one weird trick

[Cephrir]

i also still think it's ircher tbh from the way he completely changed his behavior. i think he was hoping to clear drew even harder

[Cephrir]

Nuke Unowen

[Cephrir]

maybe penguin

Nuke: Penguin

"someone give me a name that isn't in the lim pool"

[Cephrir]

"someone give me a name that isn't in the lim pool"

guess I could've just nuked you but I'm sure POE will get around to it eventually

that would have been your optimal play here yeah

[Cephrir]

ok

[Cephrir]

idk why my launch is considered a mirv which seems to be in direct contradiction to how the mod answered my question yesterday but w/e i guess

[Cephrir]

Zzz

[Cephrir]

nuking chell is certainly a choice

guess i'll wait to see if titus dies

[Cephrir]

Penguin, I do want to apologize for a joke I made in Utopia, didn't realize the whole situation and I felt shitty about it afterwards.

I do wonder why Bell has had it out for me basically from the jump, is shit posting a scum tell to you?

I know Cephir will basically always scum read me lol, but not sure why UNO is so happy about the nuke on me.

And why is Gob asking about me? There have been others that have been on the fringe as well.

I actually kinda wish I nuked gob over T3, ngl.

But Nuke partnership and all that lol.

The discredit of my ability to read you ignores me correctly catching you as scum in another game wherein you also admitted I had the correct reason in game.

I've learned your ways

I am not discrediting your ability to read me, you were one of the few who read me correctly in Boons Ahoy, when I was scum. But you have also seen me act way different in a large game as town, that is my point.

And what Bell is referencing was a completely different size and setup of a game, one which I will be a bit more active right out of the gate.

This isn't some new thing I am trying to do here.

this back and forth between drew and ceph feels town indicative for ceph

im so annoyed with myself for letting this read go just bc someone claimed to have changed

[Cephrir]

if it's not titus or unowen i'll start thinking again but until they're dead my brain is firmly in the off position

[Cephrir]

MIRV Titus & Unowen

[Cephrir]

You have prior nukes to read the game state you just don’t want to or are pretending not to want to. Or are pretending nothing happened since you joined, which is confusing because, you like to do VCA which is historical in nature.

But enough about common sense, it’s not very effective have at you!

There is no vca to go off of?

You could include unsuccessful nukes in your analysis. I would think they are equally alignment indicative

Or try something other than vca then instead of giving up idk

[Cephrir]

Aight