RealTime Mafia (Game Over due to too many modkills.)

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Vote SensFan

12000

0, 42/12000

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How would you start this game?

By Vote: player.

3, 64/12000

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WIFOM.

1, 112/12000

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Unvote, Vote ortolan

. Words.

1, 177/12000

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Votecount?

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Why's ortolan hated? Much prefer current vote

Word wasting. Suggest vig Surye same reason.

7, 195/12000

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Vote forbiddanlight. Unhelpful approach, dislike suggestion of vig.

What if me? With that, WIFOM ^-^

ortolan hate is stupid.

explain.

Surye's hypocrisy is blatant; ortolan wagon suspicious IMO.

Ok, then reverse.

Unvote, vote Surye

, if vig, ortolan.

13, 393/12000

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Independent thought?

always, maybe unapparent.

3, 435/12000

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WIFOM post's a factor, mostly dislike wanting to vig everyone who talks. Need to save words, but attacking anyone who uses more than 3 per post = antitown. Town needs discussion.

Surye wagon basis = missunderstanding, probably many scum there.

Posted WIFOM after vote. Nice try.

And not vig everyone who talks, vig everyone who wastes words. There is difference. xyzzy isn't as scummy since he used words to make point. most of others haven't.

35, 603/12000

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So?

Cited reason vote. Bullshit

Nonsevere word wasting = null tell. Calling for kills because of it = easy scum move.

Bullshit. Vig directs self.

Unvote, Vote Raging Rabbit

Attempt to paint red with weak evidence.

15, 715/12000

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You just gave advice to vig. Hypocrital.

Not. I give advice, don't expect following.

Don't get what you're saying.

You cite WIFOM post as reason voting me, but that I did AFTER vote.

Furthermore, I vote you because start wall of text war. Bad for town.

34, 761/12000

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Discussion = good for town. Also, again hypocrital.

GOOD discussion good for town. catfight not.

Untrue.

What if me? With that, WIFOM ^-^

explain.

Ok, then reverse.

Unvote, vote Surye

, if vig, ortolan.

WIFOM post's a factor, mostly dislike wanting to vig everyone who talks. Need to save words, but attacking anyone who uses more than 3 per post = antitown. Town needs discussion.

Surye wagon basis = missunderstanding, probably many scum there.

Sure not look untrue...

What do you expect?

able to refer back to later, breadcrumbing? No, I like making vig suggestions, no matter if followed.

27, 951/12000

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Not catfight. Maybe by OMGUSing and stating "bullshit" you try to make this one?

I call what I see

Suggestions mean something, in addition to vote. If they didn't, you'd be wasting words and scummy according to your definition.

Even if vig decides self, I do have influence. Anyone does. I like my suggestion.

@last...huh?

22, 989/12000

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So now it has meaning? Contradiction.

all depends what vig makes of it.

7, 1002/12000

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Unvote, Vote Percy

Idle afternoon important, so wasteful restatement?

6, 1085/12000

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Suggestion scummy regardless of existence.

No, not scummy. When has vig suggest EVER been scummy? Doc/cop, yes, vig, no.

16, 1106/12000

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Wasting words on it = scummy.

RR's feeding FL's speculations.

Should I ignore RR? But...wisely, no more speculating

9, 1182/12000

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Calling for verbose people's lynch = bad
"" vig - worse

Wasn't trying to speculate.

Wrong. Depends of verbosity type.

5, 1208/12000

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Stop feeding it, RR, stop responding, FL. Call it scummy or not, but leave it. Continuing speculation now is useless catfighting.

Fair.

1, 1230/12000

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So, you'd rather waste words?

vote: Raging Rabbit

There delicate balance this game between talk/action. I realize.

Unvote, Vote Animorpherv

. Too much lean towards say nothing.

17, 1480/12000

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Let's get this straight: Verboseness = bad. Not using enough words to make point = bad

I say this...you vote me?

FURTHER...ever hear reasons?

HoS Jebus

10, 1591/12000

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FOS: lurkers

, too many people avoid speaking up.

Agreed, very easy way for scum to slip under the radar.

According to my quick survey, skitzer strikes me as lurky. Also seems to make show of "conserving words" while using as excuse for large numbers of FoS

FoS: veerus, ortolan, Surye

sesquipedalians

FoS Narsis

too

Mhm. See also Xtoxm.

Animorpherv, your defeatism isn't helping your case at all.

12, 2105/12000

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FoS: forbiddanlight for continued pointless discussion.

Huh? I'VE NOT SAID ANYTHING LAST 2-3 PAGES!

FoS Percy

for unmitigated bullshit.

13, 2753/12000

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...then three more posts on issue.

Other words, unmitigated bullshit. Stopped speculation, continued argument. Pay attention.

No.

actually, yes. first, if the player is lurking and/or refusing to defend himself then it would be better to lynch him now. lurker at LYLO = bad. secondly, we learn 100% that he is townie. this allows us to more accurately read people based on how they reacted to the wagon against him, and after, how they react to his lynch.

Percy's recent posting gives me odd feeling.

85, 4186/12000

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I am a miller.

Why not claim first post? die

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Great. Lazy people = no read on death per night.

IIRC, ortolan was good scumbuddy pick for animorph.

Vote ortolan

21/5750

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Not sure of ortolan lynch.

ort covered ani.

58/3750

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I know. Several did one way or another.

Jester suggestion over the top.

71/3750

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Just speculation, ani's lynch was obvious at that point so it's a stupid scum move. Ortolan's likely town.

Even then, WIFOM exist.

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Just speculation, ani's lynch was obvious at that point so it's a stupid scum move. Ortolan's likely town.

Even then, WIFOM exist.

Judgment call.

This why I hate when people say "stupid scum move, so prob town".

121/3750

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Sorry, this as RR's statement. It null tell at best.

147/3750

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Didn't say it's towntell either, leaning town for other reasons.

nice backtrack. You wouldn't have phrased your statement that way if you meant that.

But, given new data, I could enjoy a

vote skitzer

213/3750

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EBWOP:

Unvote, vote skitzer

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Second sentence isn't result of the first.

BS. There better ways to phrase

Even though when I suggested jester I was already voting for animorpherv

Missed. Clears most suspicion.

Total crap logic

Pot kettle?

294/3750

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Perhaps phrasing wasn't perfect, but I know my intentions better than you. We need to save words, not write essays.

Even if you know your intentions, we don't. I have no reason believe you.

634/10500

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The argument you claimed I made makes no sense. You should read the post as two seperate sentences, like I meant. I expressed a town read of Ortolan before the whole jester thing even came up. I understand why you want to keep your version of the truth, it makes me look bad, but the rest of the town aren't scum so I doubt they'd agree.

That's quite certain of you. Doubtful you can back up. I think your argument crap, I think further discussion fruitless. I not voting you since you not top priority. Save words.

731/10500

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Yes IF only one Mason left.

Yes, create NK target long before need "confirmed townie". Great idea.

FoS Vi

1178/10500

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Enough soft-claiming. Alvinz is probably the mason.

Did you have to point out? I mean, we can hope for stupid scum.

1428/10500

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I'm vanilla.. don't waste a lynch on me.

Why so early? don't like attitude. wagon pretty

Unvote, vote veerus

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Not sold on veerus, FL and skitzer scummier. Claim's bad, but what do scum gain by claiming early?

At least there's something going on, I guess.

Heading off votes before hammer range. Generally, closer to lynch, more trustworthy claim is.

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Claiming townie won't head off votes.

Well, there is fact that you think no benefit for scum, so you not vote.

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Given meta (of MS, not veerus), not too unlikely. Or rather, not too unlikely someone eventually take advantage of meta. So, keep it scumtell. I will.

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Given town's reaction, your meta comment is fail.

Well, means it too early to try. Doesn't mean I release caught scum. I never said it good idea, just that someone claiming way too early and hoping to WIFOM out of it was bound to happen eventually.

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You and others seem content to wagon veerus for claim alone, which isn't in itself a reason.

Seemed like good idea at time. Also enlightening about other alignments.

But no, if you read, it's not just claim.

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I knew the veerus wagon was crap. Was wrong about FL, though, so sorry 'bout that.

I blocked you and percy. Apparently I didn't block percy at the right time though. (At least I think I blocked percy). 50% accuracy with night actions ftw!

And everyone thinks I'm scum when I'm town. I'm used to it.

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That is AWESOME! You all thought I was a vig. Now, an awesomer thing to do would have been if I were VANILLA and pulled that off. Since then, yanno, I wouldn't be losing a role action anyway .