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And who are you to call whether or not the random voting stage is over? And why is the self-vote something to look at?Azhrei wrote:The self-vote, and following discussion, appear to have brought us out of the random stage
However, while I agree it's generally not very significant, I think it's something to look at.-
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@Post 106
I think it should be obvious that these points are obvious. I find the fact that he merely repeated what had been said previous to his post. Yes, it should be obvious that the random stage is over. Which means half of his post means nothing. And of course the self-vote should be looked at and is not important...and that's the other half. In other words, I was merely asking for more information, more content with which myself and the town can use to discover more information and get good reads on any many players as possible.
@Post 108
I see you haven't met Nat yet...
@Post 109
1. If you can't note this, you probably shouldn't be playing Mafia.
2. Yes, because it merely adds to the uselessness of his post, as stated above.
3. I don't care, so long as they actually post content along with the little, useless reminder.
4. Your sarcasm is noted! Have a nice day! 8D
@Post 110
Is asking questions jumping the gun? And I see you missed the point of the question, as everyone else has. The second part of your post contains content, which is what I was looking for.
@Post 111
Drinking and playing Mafia is illegal in my state.
@Post 116
Who are you to up and decide that the point of my post was to attack for the content of his post instead of the lack of it? If I had decided that ending the random voting phase and noting that someone had self-voted was scummy, I'd need multiple votes to vote for you all. Also, calling riceballtail as my scumbuddy already? This kind of thing is bad as it sounds like you're setting up for future lynches.
FoS: sirdanilot
@Post 119
Why the sudden jump? And why the bullshit, dude? I want to stay in the random voting stage? That's your reason for voting me? What role have you ever encountered that would benefit for staying in the random voting stage? Talk about serious reaction voting and then looking for crappy reasons to vote the latest bandwagon...
FoS: Slicey
@Post 126
Because it's blatant rolefishing? Role speculation during therandom voting stage. Sounds like you want to find power roles for easy lynches. Plus, what kind of bastard mod makes a set of roles that can both fulfill their win conditions by one killing the other? Except Tar, of course.
FoS: Microphone_Kirby
Also,unvote.Because we're apparently out of the random voting phase now!I'll watch some more reactions to see who actually warrants my vote as I have three different people who I'm looking at right now.-
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@ Post 139
And I've already explained this. Seeing as you cut out that part of my post, I hope you've read at, as it explains my reasoning. Yes, I could have worded it better, but it got the job done.The former strongly implies that you do not agree that the random voting stage is over. The latter strongly implies that you do not think the self vote is something to look at.
Also, I think you're confusing having multiple suspicions("casting a wide net"
) with calling scum partners. I'm saying, this is what looks scummy. It doesn't mean I want them lynched. It means that I have a problem with the post and that it looks scummy. Sliecy was pushing an invalid point. You are pushing several crappy reasons on me. And M_K was rolefishing.
None of these on their own, in my eyes, deserve a vote. Is there a problem with expressing my problems with multiple people? Do you not like where my chain of reasoning is going?
What you are doing is scummy as you seem to be looking for easy lynches later. Let's say riceballtail flips scum. Isn't it easy to say that 'Oh, well, Seraphim did this in the random stage and I called that the two of them were scumbuddies! Let's lynch them now!"?
I'm not saying that any of my suspects should be lynched. I'm saying that they've done something anti-town and that I'm on to them.
About Pressure:
Apply pressure as needed. Too much and you may burst your target and cause mislynches which is why aggressive play is sometimes considered scummy.
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@Post 160 and 161
Something about your posts just scream anti-town to me. I can't figure out what it is, but when I do...
@Post 167
I disagree. It got the job done as it forced Azhrei to post content. Or rather, more content than his post indicated. Even if the question is indeed a roundabout and sarcastic way of getting things done...it worked. I don't care if I get a few votes on me if we get scum lynched and discussion simmered to a boil.
1. Isn't my logic epic, though?
2. Yes, sorry. That post was hastily constructed.
3. Because, at that point in the game, pointless post lurking is worse than lurking IMO. Lurkers get replaced. Coasters don't.
4. I didn't say there wasn't anything of worth because I didn't.
Now, for the second part...
1. I can buy the part about RBT. But I can't buy the entire idea of confidence. I think having multiple suspects is a good thing, especially on day 1. Tunnel vision without regard for the rest of the town only hurts unless your suspect is scum.
You see, your entire 'I'll just vote for the biggest bandwagon" case isn't true. I FoSed only one person with a true bandwagon on him at the time and now. I'm getting a town read off of you from our little back-and-forth. I'm also getting a town read from Slicey, though I wish he'd post more. I'm still not sold on a Microphone_Kirby lynch, though his recent posts leave me uneasy.
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Vote: riceballtail
You should post more content as you have been limited to (barely) defending your self-vote and pre-inning DGB's possible game. Oh, and self-voting. Post moar, please.-
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I'm not sure if I noted this, but I will be quoting normally again. That was just an experiment and I didn't like the format much either.
Or maybe I'm just getting bad vibes off of him? I just don't like some of his posts even if they aren't inherently anti-town.post 178 wrote:Building up to a bandwagon vote are we?
Aragh...third window, coming up...you're going to make me crash my browser, you know?post 178 wrote:Could you quote me some posts of others (before the azhrei post) that contain the information you suspect azhrei of copying?
For the self-voting part, check out posts 77-99.
For the 'we're out of the random phrase' part...
post 81 wrote:I almost always vote Day One self-voters. Personal philosophy of mine. And a (exceptionally minor) scum tell, which is better than random at this point.
And on and on. Once discussion gets serious, it's clear that the random phase is over. His post had no content in it, so I felt he needed more prodding.post 86 wrote:What is more important, is the reactions of people seeing such a scum tell. I'm enjoying sitting on my luxury chair and observing the reactions of the players.
So, RBT, why did you self vote? Let's hear it.
Because I couldn't resist as his statement was so easy to question. His post stood out to be as I read it. That should answer both questions, I believe.post 178 wrote:You ignored my comment about ignoring raider.
So my net is wider than your's. Is that really a scumtell? You're right, I don't think anyone right now is incredibly scummy. I still think RBT needs to contribute more as she is kinda flying under the radar at the moment.post 178 wrote: A townie would find a way between these extremes. You see, casting a wide net is easy for scum since it allows them to flip flop and change at their whim. Tunneling is also easy for them since they can ignore anything else that's happening in the game. Of course I have seen townies tunneling too, and if done correctly it can give some major information but I do not agree with tunneling if it's being done for an entire day 1
If I don't have a good suspect, I will vote lurkers or players I want to hear from. It's become...I suppose 'meta' is the word. You see, especially in Day 1, a vote is a statement. Unlike an FoS, however, this statement has merit. Votes, as a statement, can mean multiple things. My vote means that I want pressure on RBT to post more content.post 178 wrote:I'm at a loss why you suddenly flip over and vote a completely different person now.
This is bull. If I wanted your lynch, I would be attacking much harder than I am now. My vote is simply saying that I want you to post more content. I didn't notice your V/LA and you still haven't posted content now.post 183 wrote:This looks like an opportunistic park vote for scum because of the accusations against him.
My vote is even more justified now when she's out of V/LA and still has yet to post more content. I want to hear more from her. I wanted to hear more from her then as well. She accused me of 'scum parking my vote' which I found to be bull. At the time, I did not accuse of her being scummy, I was merely putting pressure down. The fact that she took it as an attack on her looks remarkably defensive on a Day 1. [/quote]post 203 wrote:Strawmanning. Pretending RBT's vote is pure OMGUS while ignoring what reasons there were behind it. Then attacking the easier, fake position. Also, are you in a more reasonable position to explain your strawmanning?-
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Because forcing out lurkers(even when they are actually on V/LA...which is my bad) is still more useful than putting your vote on someone who don't believe is scummy, just for the sake of putting your vote down. Now that you're out of V/LA, I look forward to playing with you. On that note...Riceballtail wrote:You're right, I do tend to seem under the radar when I've spent most of the game V/LA. That's why we notify people of such an absence. Now that I'm back, and caught up on most of the games, I can start posting more regularly.
However, you seem to be the only one who's pushing me, and honestly, you don't even seem to care that much anyway. Why, then, are you wasting your vote?
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Vote: Santos
You have four posts all game. One was to confirm, the other three were joke votes. Lurk much?-
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Why would town want to know this? Why do you care? This is very odd, in my opinion, and seems to indicate that you are some sort of anti-town role...post 325 wrote:EBWOP:
Stupid question:
Does scum know the identity of other scum in this game?
There are other reasons why I find Pear Bear anti-town, but I don't have time to list them ATM.-
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This.Talitha wrote:You didexactlythe same thing yesterday that you are voting OGML for today.. i.e. the turnaround from M-K to Santos. The only difference is that yours was less blatant and attracted less attention. So who is more likely scum? The one who attracts everyone's attention for aggressive play, then changes his vote when new evidence comes to light? Or the bandwagoner, who follows the crowd?
Azhrei, to MK wrote:If you flip townie, I'm going to be looking very closely at OGML tomorrow.
These comments make me feel pretty happy that Azhrei is scum. He's not thinking deeply about the game, just playing to a lazy formula and setting up his vote for the next day in advance, in case there's no convenient bandwagon to follow.Azhrei, to me wrote:Come on. Ever heard of bussing? If OGML flips scum, I'm gonna be looking verrry closely at you.
Vote: Azhrei
Oh, hi all. I've been paying attention, I just haven't had the time to make a post since real life has been killing me lately. So yeah, I'm back.-
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I apologize for my absence. I'll be catching up soon and posting my thoughts as I reread day two. Apparently, there's a case against Pear Bear and OGML from a quick scan of recent posts. Before I left, I do think Pear Bear was scummier though this may have changed. Expect more content later, just dropping in and saying I'm still alive...
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Instead of rereading day two, I decided to make my decisions solely based on what's happened today so far. Right now, my vote could go to one of two people...one of whom I was pretty sure was scum yesterday, which would be Pear Bear.
I'm going with the sure thing...I think Pear Bear is scum.
Vote: Pear Bear
I love Slicey's case which really sums up all my problems with PB.-
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Vote: Pear Bear
There's too much evidence against him to be ignored or brushed off as simple newbiness. Azhrei brings up the best point: that sirdanilot defended PB. Sirdan is scum. That, the scumminess coming off of him like a nuclear bomb's radiation, I refuse to sit back and watch us lynch another townie.-
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