This.AceMarksman wrote:What is the reason your role gives specifically for not being able to buy items?Shadow Knight wrote:My role stresses that I become a normal goomba once my bubble is broken. I assume that means I gain the ability to buy items.
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Why?AceMarksman wrote:
I completely disagree. SK should by lynched todaypopulartajo wrote:Kay, Ive decided that ShadowKnight shouldnt be lynched today.
Please more Looker votes.
We can do it.Call me Tajo.
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Lurking.Shadow Knight wrote:For ease of use, please post a case against Looker. (I honestly didn't know that was a player in this game till I realized he was on my wagon.)Call me Tajo.
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No, please dont let deadline make a prob bad decision. My gut tells me that SK is telling the truth.
Law, we cant have a deadline since Cream needs a replacement. According to the deadline rules, we cant have a deadline with a player needing a replacement.Call me Tajo.
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IShadow Knight wrote:You're right. We're too close to deadline for me to try and screw around.
According to my role PM.
I am a bubble goomba.
I will survive the first kill an invader hits me with, but it will pop my bubble and make me a normal goomba.
Certain attacks* will kill me outright
I have 1 coin.
I am unable to buy items.
Night 4 I "land" and my bubble pops regardless.
Through my communicating with Law, I know that I *may* get a new PM when I become a normal goomba but he didn't guarantee it. I *may* be able to spend my coin on something at that point. I *may* have more coins at that point. It *may* have something to do with floating around in a bubble. Are you catching a theme here?reallydont see anyone fakeclaiming like that.
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Its my opinion. Feel free to disagree but that doesnt make me scum.AceMarksman wrote:I don't like this steadfast defense of SK by tajo.FoS: populartajoSeems like scum buddying to me.
You really think SK is fakeclaiming all that information? Last game, scum only got the name of roles that werent in the town side.Call me Tajo.
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Which is why we precisely need someone like Gorrad or the other guy to confirm this.qwints wrote:Shadow Knight wrote: We may as well see if we all share the ability to hold and use items.AceMarksman wrote:unvote, vote: SKPlayers without item descriptions can't use items either.
Sk implied he could use items. Ace said he was wrong. SK said he was only making an assumption. SK was mistaken that players without descriptions could use items (unless Ace is lying.)Shadow Knight wrote: My role stresses that I become a normal goomba once my bubble is broken. I assume that means I gain the ability to buy items.Call me Tajo.
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Show me these contradictions plz.zwetschenwasser wrote:pop makes a good point, but SK also contradicts himself several times with his claim.Unvote; Vote: SKThat's L-1, I think.Call me Tajo.
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Yes, you.Looker wrote:
Sorry, I missed it.Shadow Knight wrote:Oh, andunvoteuntil I figure out who I should be voting here.
unvote
Any new suspicions?
Waiting for SK to answer the questions posed to him.Call me Tajo.
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Lurking.zwetschenwasser wrote:Also, how is looker suspicious?
Promised a post but havent done so.
His first post of the game was a vote for Shadow Knight showing a bizarre connection with the Ort-SK dilemma, evne though he hadnt finished reading the thread then.
Playing the retard card, even though I know Looker is not retarded.
His predecesor, Shinnen, comploted against the plan and refused to colaborate.Call me Tajo.
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I do.ZEEnon wrote:Role-related reasons.
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The other game, Law gave scum only the name of town roles that were not in the game. Scum had to fabricate the powers.
Thats why I really think SK isnt fabricating its role and therefore he is telling the truth.
I could be wrong but my gut tells me he is indeed a goomba in a bubble, which, IMO, is not a ridiculous claim.Call me Tajo.
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My three suspects were ort, SK and Looker(Shinnen). All these three guys were against or showed antipathy for a plan that until now has confirmed some people as prob Bowser Army.ZEEnon wrote:I just replaced into this game a little while ago, populartajo.
Wanna do me a favour and list all the suspicions you have, as well as the reasoning for those suspicions?
Ort was my heaviest attacker. He even voted me, then refused to collaborate, then attacked me for weak reasons, to finally confirm that he prob has item descriptions in his PM. Im still not sure about this since the question and the answer were ambiguous enough. I propose he uses a letter today to prove that he indeed has item descriptions in his PM unless someone else thinks in a question that he can answer clearly.
SK also showed antipathy for the plan cuz he didnt have item description in his PM. Voted Surye for being "confused" when reading his PM when the logical reaction was to be confused. Also voted Ort following my reasons to vote him. However, he has claimed "goomba in a bubble", a claim that I really see hard to fakeclaim considering the amount of information he gave us. My gut tells me this guy is legit.
Shinnen also comploted against my plan thinking. Looker replaced and then concentrated bizarrely in the ort-SK dilemma, voting SK without having read the thread, (he even admits that when I asked him the questions about the items description in his PM). He now is lurrking.
After these guys, there are people like zwet and Empking that SHOULDNT stay alive until endgame, even if they are town. I really thinki the people in the "I have item description" list is prob town and that we should lynch people systematically in the "refusing to" and "I dont have item descriptions" lists. Since Ort and SK dont feel as optymal lynches as they were before, I REALLY think that Looker is the lynch of the day.
This is pretty much my current reasoning in the game.Call me Tajo.
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Ok, Ive been thinking in this. I need to evaluate other responses to my reasoning.
As every game of mafia that has vanilla townies, this game also should have at least a group of townies sharing the same PM.
Last game the Toads were the vanilla versions of the game. Im assuming this time, the Goombas are the vanilla versions of the game. SK, if you are indeed a Goomba, can you paraphrase your win conditions and flavor?
This is also a reason why I think SK is legit, but first I need to confirm this piece of information.Call me Tajo.
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I tend to agree with the post.caf19 wrote:ort has done enough to justify his survival now.
SK isn't entirely incriminated by Ace and Gorrad's convictions since the possibitilty of him telling the truth is still there. On the other hand, his defences do have something of a 'retrospective' feel to them. After being called out for slipping, he just goes 'oh, um, I was only assuming that', something he didn't mention before, and continues on...
So, I still think Looker is the best choice, but SK probably isn't a bad one either. Given Looker's out-of-the-blue unvote of SK, there's a chance they could both be scum.
Look, I really dont know what to make of SK. My gut tells me he is telling the truth with his claim. When I said scum had elaborate claims I meant that usually scum dont claim a simple role like goomba in a bubble. A reason I thought why this claim could be legit is cuz I tought that the vanilla version of this game were Goombas. For reference, in the other game, scum had fakeclaims like Dr. Mario and at the beginning they didnt know that the Toads were the vanillas of the game. However, if Goombas arent the vanillas of the game, then who are the vanillas of this game?
But yeah, all the people asking for SK lynch cant be all scum and I agree there is something fishy with his claim. So there is not much I can do now.
The only thing I want is that I definitely want Looker to comment on this before SK is lynched.Call me Tajo.
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Paraphrase all your flavor.Shadow Knight wrote:@Ortolan- I'm not claiming what attacks kill me outright simply because you want to know.
@Tajo- to loosely paraphrase my win condition, I win when all invaders are dead.Call me Tajo.
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Updated
People with items descriptionProb Bowser's Army
Tajo
Zwet
Qwints
caf19
semioldguypacman
Zeenon
Moratorium
WLC
Ortolan* (if the majority thinks ort should be here then speak)
People with no items description
Gorrad
Ace
Shadow Knight
Empking (reason for his SK vote)
Refusing to
Looker
K7
Cream
Rice
Whats wrong with these guys?
Looker
K7
Cream
Rice
Prod prod prod. Replace replace replaceCall me Tajo.
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So, this is the situation. SK lynch is inevitable right now and he is already prob lynched, assuming we have a double voter in the wagon.
Plz, in case Im not going to be with you guys tomorrow and regardless of SK's flip, you HAVE to lynch Looker tomorrow.Call me Tajo.
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Ortolan's defense of Looker is also noted.ortolan wrote: I also disapprove of tajo attempting to redirect votes to another player as a result, solely because of their "lurking" (on day one).
You think its normal that his first post of the day is a vote for SK without reading the game? What do you think of his unvote? Why hasnt he answered my questions yet or commented as a normal replacement would do?Call me Tajo.
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Of course they were elaborate. They are not vanillas, they hint PRs.oldguy wrote:Not all of the fake claims from last game were elaborate. For reference last game they were: Dr. Mario, Shy Guy, Paper Mario, Rosalina, Baby Luigi and Bob-omb.
Yes, but this doesnt mean they could infer 100% that Toads were the vanillas of the game.oldguy wrote:They did know that "Toad" was the vanilla of last game. From one of the Bowser PM's last game: "But because you are all disguised as a Toad, it might be better to pretend that you’re a Toad."
Im evaluating this. One of the strategies to own scum in MKMI was to use the vanilla role as a way to semiconfirm people with the same vanilla role, kinda like we are using the item descriptions claim right now.oldguy wrote:No one should answer this.Call me Tajo.
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Indeed. What was the question that qwints answered?Moratorium wrote:qwints wrote: The red shell costs 2 more coins than the green shell.
Problem.Daybreak wrote: qwints, Yoshi (Mushroom Kingdom), killed Night 1.Call me Tajo.
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Hi, Kast.Kast wrote:Hi all, I'm replacing Cream.
I read through the game prior to replacing in and I have a pro-town impression from Moratorium, Ortolan, and Semioldguy.
Cream didn't claim about items, I'm guessing part of it is because cream also cannot buy or use any items.
Also, Qwints has flipped mushroom kingdom, but Qwints is one of the players who had bowser's army items (or rather information on those items).
But SK was also mushroom kingdom but did not (or claimed to not) have bowser's army information.
We didn't have a night 0 (game started in Day 1 if I'm reading everything correctly), so possibly only some of Mushroom Kingdom had item descriptions and did not have a chance to share it?
Why do you have a protown impresion of these players?
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He prob doesnt know it.Gorrad wrote:Vote: Sirdanilot
Why are you now in this game? Tell the truth or die.
Sirdanilot, tell us your first impression of the game regarding your PM. It would be more useful if you comment on this before rereading the game.
This is a good start of this day. Ill reread for qwints and SK intereactions but for now.
Vote : Looker.Call me Tajo.
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Please do so. You are good on that.semioldguy wrote:
I am going to comb through the thread really closely and make sure there was no way for him to somehow deduce this.Moratorium wrote:qwints wrote: The red shell costs 2 more coins than the green shell.
Problem.Daybreak wrote: qwints, Yoshi (Mushroom Kingdom), killed Night 1.Call me Tajo.
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Can you explain why did you find out ortolan very rational?Kast wrote:@Tajo-
-I think you are probably protown and your decision to push for the item claiming and force it through seems earnest.
I didn't like your attitude towards semioldguy testing your item knowledge. I think he had valid points and valid reason to doubt you. Once you finally showed that you did have knowledge of the items, he acknowledged that.
Overall a pro-town read, but tainted by what I see as a childish reaction.
-I have a positive impression of the other three because I felt they were being both earnest and very rational.Call me Tajo.
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Arg. This implies that scum do have item descriptions but then why did SK didnt claim he had them?Moratorium wrote:populartajo wrote:
Indeed. What was the question that qwints answered?Moratorium wrote:qwints wrote: The red shell costs 2 more coins than the green shell.
Problem.Daybreak wrote: qwints, Yoshi (Mushroom Kingdom), killed Night 1.populartajo wrote: First question of the night.
Drumroll
qwints, out of these two items: green shell and red shell, which costs more and by how?Call me Tajo.
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I think I was pretty clear to establish that wario and dk were also third party factions. Its prob that they have another win conditions as they did in MKMI.Moratorium wrote:Something else that needs to be addressed:
- No one from Bowser's Army died last night.
- Someone from Mushroom Kingdom died last night.
Three possibilities that I can see:
1) qwints was nightkilled by his own faction. Implausible gambit at this stage, but the gambit would be the scum attempting to spread confusion about the makeup of the game and the various factions by sacrificing one of its own. 1/10.
2) Scum nightkill did not occur for one of many different reasons. qwints was killed by a non-scum entity. 6/10.
3) There is more than one uninformed faction in this game. 3/10.
I dont think there is other uninformed faction in the game since everyone seems to establish that Bowser's army is the uninformed majority.
But why qwints, why of all the people that were in that list they picked qwints?Call me Tajo.
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Why did you suppor the plan then?zwetschenwasser wrote:Only a scum would realize that they could manipulate the town into confirming them by pushing the idea that scum wouldn't have item descriptions.
And why did SK came up scum then?Call me Tajo.
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Sadly, yes. At least we got a scum there.Gorrad wrote:Why do we need to know the setup D2? Find scum. Lynch them. Town win. Yay. And qwints' death pretty much screwed up Tajo's plan.
There is something that doesnt fit.
Qwints was scum. He answered satisfactorily the question asked to him, meaning that he had item descriptions in his PM.
Shadowkinght was scum. He claimed to not have item descriptions.
This can only mean that some scum did have item descriptions in D1. But how many? Only qwints?Call me Tajo.
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Well Gorrad, I can understand where you come from but I dont think nk speculatiuon hurts a game like this when there are no explicit doctors and very vital information can be obtained of these events.Call me Tajo.
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Well, this is the situation right now.
We exactly dont know if all scum had item descriptions fromm Bowser Army in their posts. The mos probable scenario that also deals with the fact that SK was scum but didnt have item descriptions is that some scum did get intem descriptions in their PM and some scum didnt.
This rule is important:
So its safe to assume that scum didnt communicate in night 0 since there wasnt night 0.Law wrote:2) The game will start in Day 1.
Another likely scenario is that qwints guessed his answer with a)pure gold luck or b)information of his own items.
This quotes are important.
Still analizing this.qwints wrote:The relatively small number of people objecting to the item claiming plan makes me wonder if it consists entirely of scum.
Why there had to be scum between ortolan and Shadowknight? This is the same fallacy Looker used to vote for Shadow Knight. It just doesnt feel well and it feels like qwintsscum decided to bus Shadowknight in the hopes of clearing ortolan.qwints wrote:Also, I think ortolan has been more honest in his intentions than ShadowKnight.
Since apparently, one of them must be scum:
unvote, vote Shadowknight
Its also remarkable that qwints has an obsession with me. He votes me, foses me and this quote looks terribly bad, like trying to set me up, knowing that SK would flip scum.
My scumhunting powers say that Looker and ortolan should be the next people dying in this game.qwints wrote:By my count we're back at L-2 in visible votes.
Still gonna try to save SK, tajo?Call me Tajo.
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A weak attack coming for zwet is understandable but a weak attack coming for a player I respect only means one thing.
I will answer every accusation you brought to the table, ort. Until you eat your words.
Unvote Vote : ortolan.Call me Tajo.
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You think it will take five minutes to answer to that pile of shit?ortolan wrote:
Um, ok, so where is the answer to all the stuff I wrote in 973 then?tajo (976) wrote:I will answer every accusation you brought to the table, ort. Until you eat your words.
Im working on it.
Dont worry.Call me Tajo.
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Why? Maybe because you knew that scumort wrote:I shall refrain from any "I told you so" at this stage.didhave item descriptions? Now that we know that some scum did have item descriptions but some didnt, do you think its more likely that town would know that scum did have item descriptions or not?
well, silly billy, gut precisely cant have much basis. Thats because its called GUT, ya know?ort wrote:]tajo, now as I said yesterday tajo did tell us he had a "gut belief" in SK's claim which didn't seem to have much basis.
And as I pointed out in, I explained why this wasnt contradictory in 872. Did you miss it for some reason?ort wrote:And as I pointed out in 864, his justification for believing the claim was contradictory.
False.ort wrote:Plus he tried to redirect votes to another wagon, Looker's, solely on the basis of "lurking", which is a very weak justification for a day one wagon, especially when one compares it to the now flipped-scum SK wagon.
My case on Looker in 832 is not solely "lurking".
You think Looker is town, ort?populartajo wrote: Case on Looker, posted in Lurking.
Promised a post but havent done so.
His first post of the game was a vote for Shadow Knight showing a bizarre connection with the Ort-SK dilemma, evne though he hadnt finished reading the thread then.
Playing the retard card, even though I know Looker is not retarded.
His predecesor, Shinnen, comploted against the plan and refused to colaborate.
Flase again. You did when you tried to get me lynched in D1. Try again.ort wrote:That said I do not think he is scummy alone for the suggestion of mass-claiming.
You were opposing to a plan that was not useless yesterday. It has been proven useless today. How did you know it was useless yesterday? Unless you are scum of course and you knew it was useless since D1.ort wrote:See, yesterday, while you were voting me for opposing a mass-claim plan as being useless which has since turned out to be...useless, I was busy catching scum.
In that logic, you would also have to attack everyone that supported the plan.
False. Looker's case is not only lurking. Dont you read? Even worse, why do you defense Looker when he hasnt done nothing to consider him protown?ort wrote:At the last minute, you tried to redirect from the scum's wagon, to someone else's (Looker), on the sole basis of "lurking".
And yes, I tried to redirect the wagon becuase I felt SK was telling the truth. I explained why I thought that but I was wrong. That doesnt make me scum.
You are incredibly pro-town? WTF? What have you done to being considered pro-town? NOTHING.ort wrote:And your rationale for wanting me lynched today, apart from being incredibly pro-town, is???
My ratioanle is that you are scum. It doesnt get better than that. You need to die.Call me Tajo.
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Empking, please be more useful and read the thread before posting silly things.Empking wrote:Vote: Pop
Seems OMGUSy.
I was the one that started the day saying that ort should die. If this is OMGUS its definitely coming from him.
FOS: Empking.Call me Tajo.
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A week?sirdanilot wrote:k so reading the game may take a while though, anyone has a summary about what happened this would help my reread a bit otherwise count on about a week or so.Call me Tajo.
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I have a theory about this but you are right.Gorrad wrote:
`sirdanilot wrote:k so reading the game may take a while though, anyone has a summary about what happened this would help my reread a bit otherwise count on about a week or so.
Tell us why you're now in the game or die. I am dead serious about this.
Sirdanilot, you know why you entered this game?Call me Tajo.
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The contradiction ort is presenting is that first I said that I believed the claim because scum usually have elaborate claims.
Ort thinks that after SK explained more his claim, it became more elaborate (for him). And he thinks I am scum because I kept believing the claim when it became "more elaborate".
But this is what I thought:
tajo wrote:When I said scum had elaborate claims I meant that usually scum dont claim a simple role like goomba in a bubble. A reason I thought why this claim could be legit is cuz I tought that the vanilla version of this game were Goombas. For reference, in the other game, scum had fakeclaims like Dr. Mario and at the beginning they didnt know that the Toads were the vanillas of the game.Call me Tajo.
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What about if I think he is scum?WeyounsLastClone wrote:
OMGUS much? I agree that the votes on you are kind of unwarranted, but immediately switching to ortolan after he votes you feels a bit childish.populartajo wrote:A weak attack coming for zwet is understandable but a weak attack coming for a player I respect only means one thing.
I will answer every accusation you brought to the table, ort. Until you eat your words.
Unvote Vote : ortolan.
What about if I said that he was scum since D1 and the only reason why I unvoted him is because he showed that he had item descriptions in his items, which we know now that doesnt indicate alignment?
This is not OMGUS.Call me Tajo.
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We have played some games before. He has been town all the time, IIRC. I think ortolan is a good reasoning player and therefore I dont think he is town scumhunting with that last weak attack against me.Moratorium wrote:Two questions:
1) @populartajo and @ortolan: Do you two have a history of past mafia games together?
Do you agree with his attacks against me? What about mine?Call me Tajo.
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Well, that was a bad generalization of my case against ortolan:
Mora and all, what do you think of this?
And why he is attacking me for attacking Looker and he lies when he says that Im attacking him only for lurking?ort wrote:See, yesterday, while you were voting me for opposing a mass-claim plan as being useless which has since turned out to be...useless, I was busy catching scum.Tajo wrote:You were opposing to a plan that was not useless yesterday. It has been proven useless today. How did you know it was useless yesterday? Unless you are scum of course and you knew it was useless since D1.
Also the reason why ortolan wagon lost steam was because he claimed he had item descriptions in his PM, using the plan he is bashing now to save his scummy ass. But now we know this doesnt indicate he is town.
@Mora, why does he think you are obv town and I am obv scum if we shared the same thoughts about the plan? Is it because I am calling for his lynch?
Ortolan just feels off and Im pretty sure he is scum.Call me Tajo.
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Ort, lest go thorugh this step by step, shall we?
What do you think of this opinion of Looker?Tajo wrote:His first post of the game was a vote for Shadow Knight showing a bizarre connection with the Ort-SK dilemma, evne though he hadnt finished reading the thread then.
And
Why do you think my plan was useless? I agree it failed to confim townies but it didnt fail to catch scum, ya know?Call me Tajo.
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Have you checked his participation in other games?Kast wrote:Of your case against him, the first two points are practically the same-lurking-which seems to be his norm (anti-town but not necessarily scummy).
Ort is here because Looker decided that one of SK and Ort had to be scum. This is a false dilemma. And its scummy as hell as you realize, specially by the speed of the vote.Kast wrote:Third point is something to watch him for. I'm not sure why you draw Ort into it, but Looker replacing in and immediately voting scum with poor reason could very well be a bus and/or distancing
Read this and come back with your apreciations of Looker. viewtopic.php?t=11343&postdays=0&postor ... &&start=50Kast wrote:Fourth point- I'm in an ongoing game with Looker, and based on his play there and what I read of his play here, I disagree with your assertion that he is not retarded.
I disagree that my plan was not obviously protown as it was supported by a heavy majority and some people that I think are prob town. Look, we know that some scum didnt have item descriptions in their PMs, as SK flip proves. How its not a safe assumption to think that there has to be at least one more scum in the group of "people refusing to collaborate with the plan" and in the group of "people not having item descriptions"?Kast wrote:Fifth point- It is fallacious to equate disagreement with a plan that was not clearly and obviously pro-town with having anti-town motivation.
Im suspecting Ortolan all D1. You are free to check my posts only by user and see that. Post 288 is a good start.Kast wrote:You have mentioned that your suspicion of Ort comes from Day 1. I don't recall any serious/memorable case(s) against Ort from Day 1. Please summarize (with links).
I did.Kast wrote:I do want to know why Tajo did not comment on the discrepancy between SK's claim about his item usability and Ace and Gorrad's claims about item usability. I want to hear what Tajo thinks of the discrepancy.populartajo wrote:
I tend to agree with the post.caf19 wrote:ort has done enough to justify his survival now.
SK isn't entirely incriminated by Ace and Gorrad's convictions since the possibitilty of him telling the truth is still there. On the other hand, his defences do have something of a 'retrospective' feel to them. After being called out for slipping, he just goes 'oh, um, I was only assuming that', something he didn't mention before, and continues on...
So, I still think Looker is the best choice, but SK probably isn't a bad one either. Given Looker's out-of-the-blue unvote of SK, there's a chance they could both be scum.
Look, I really dont know what to make of SK. My gut tells me he is telling the truth with his claim. When I said scum had elaborate claims I meant that usually scum dont claim a simple role like goomba in a bubble. A reason I thought why this claim could be legit is cuz I tought that the vanilla version of this game were Goombas. For reference, in the other game, scum had fakeclaims like Dr. Mario and at the beginning they didnt know that the Toads were the vanillas of the game. However, if Goombas arent the vanillas of the game, then who are the vanillas of this game?
But yeah, all the people asking for SK lynch cant be all scum and I agree there is something fishy with his claim. So there is not much I can do now.
The only thing I want is that I definitely want Looker to comment on this before SK is lynched.Call me Tajo.
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Ive never advocated massclaim plans as scum. Where did you get these reports?ort wrote:In your case we have your mass-claiming plan, which is now proven to be a null-tell as we have reports you have advocated it before as scum, as well as the fact it has been proven to be ineffective.Call me Tajo.
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@Kast, please., I know you really can say what you want to say in two or three lines.
Please dont post enormous wall of texts since usually people will skip them. This is an advice.
@Gorrad, why havent you answered Orto accusations?Call me Tajo.
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Zwet you are wasting your time here.zwetschenwasser wrote:To make you look pro-town today. Can't anyone else see this?
I did what I did because Im town not because I am scum trying to look protown.Call me Tajo.
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I dont want to but I agree.Gorrad wrote:Zwets always plays like this.
The fact that he is getting paranoid against me when he knows people can get him lynched for weak logic is kinda protown.
In a strange way.
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