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SerialClergyman Mafia Scum
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SerialClergyman Mafia Scum
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SerialClergyman Mafia Scum
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I disagree specifically for framer. I see no pro-town reason to keep the framer quiet and no anti-town reason to have them claim (aside from perhaps failing to draw a night kill). I'd also expect them never to use their ability if they were town.
I am impressed with the effort but unimpressed iwth the result of the Seacore case.
Seacore wrote:although I imagine it won't hurt to just pick, since there's no communication during this time.
No communication =/= not knowing who your partners are. It's not similar enough to convict and not different enough to clear, in my (sdmittedly vague) opinion.Mod wrote:However, not until after the draft is finished will you know any partners you may possess.I'm old now.-
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SerialClergyman Mafia Scum
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As some of you know, I love a good mass claim, and had considered it.
One advantage is that it's very hard to lie with the system we have set up. If noone was to claim vig, for example, then any VT could point out they had chosen vig and were denied. We could then look at all of the VTs above that person in the draft more closely.
The problem is the standard problem with massclaims, which is that our roles are exposed.
At the moment, espcially with the amount of interference roles like blocker, cop and driver, I think it's not worth it, but it's not the worst idea ever either.I'm old now.-
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SerialClergyman Mafia Scum
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In English - you're saying that Seacore is likely to be scum because he had specific knowledge that there was no communication between partners.
However, in actual fact he wasn't told who his partners were. Which is significantly different to being told he was not allowed to communicate with them.
To me this suggests that he read the setup info and was just stating a fact, not that he was echoing specific communication given to him by the mod because he is in a scum team.
So I think your point is unlikely to be telling either way.I'm old now.-
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SerialClergyman Mafia Scum
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SerialClergyman Mafia Scum
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What's with the prickliness? Are you usually like this when in game?
I'm not attacking you over it, the part where I say I was impressed with the effort means I liked the attempt you made to find scum, I just wasn't convinced. If you mention lightly that there is room for misinterpretation then good on you, I still have a responsibility to go through it more thoroughly if I see somethign more in it that hasn't been thoroughly addressed.
I have no idea if Seacore is scum or town.I'm old now.-
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If you're usually like this then you're usually like this, Vi - I didn't know if it's standard or not and thought I'd check from the horses' mouth. It's not my style but you know, so it goes.
Seacore has put forward enough content that it's possible to get a read on his alignment, I personally do not have one.
I dislike Devotress's vote though, and will put my money where my mouth is. I've had a theory for a while that the first person to accuse someone of role fishing is scum. This has been built up over a few games of getting accused of fishing or watchign other townies getting accused of fishing, and it almost always is one of those things that scum feel so unapproachably correct in doing that they jump at the chance.
Vote devotressI'm old now.-
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SerialClergyman Mafia Scum
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SerialClergyman Mafia Scum
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SerialClergyman Mafia Scum
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SerialClergyman Mafia Scum
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SerialClergyman Mafia Scum
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SerialClergyman Mafia Scum
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SerialClergyman Mafia Scum
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SerialClergyman Mafia Scum
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I think knowing someone is bulletproof is important in how you interact with them. They are much more dangerous as scum because the only way they will be able to be killed is via a lynch. This is important information. It is also a slightly odd choice for town.
But aside from any of that, I'm a claiming man, as DGB should know from CKD's game. And the only reason not to claim is that a kill faction might target them unclaimed, which is meh.
As for devotress, I've been down with her lynch for yonks.vote devotressI'm old now.-
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SerialClergyman Mafia Scum
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I don't think you're scum.
There are two night kills a day. The majority of players in this game iwll be killed via night kill, probably even the majority of scum. A player who is invulnerable to that needs to have a special eye kept on them, in my opinion.
Love your endeavour . It shouldn't be hard. Completed game here where I pushed hard for a massclaim before anyone else, or here for an ongoing game with a lot of roles in which I'm screaming for claims all day.Meta, someone confirm.
In my opinion, the possibility of one failed NK (which incidentally means there's no chance of a crosskill) does not make up for the bulletproof player not being known to the town.I'm old now.-
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This is now official.SC wrote:I dislike Devotress's vote though, and will put my money where my mouth is. I've had a theory for a while that the first person to accuse someone of role fishing is scum. This has been built up over a few games of getting accused of fishing or watchign other townies getting accused of fishing, and it almost always is one of those things that scum feel so unapproachably correct in doing that they jump at the chance.
Tony Montana is almost certainly not Mafia A.
Cobalt, why vote Xyl given he was at the very least pushing a scum member hard?I'm old now.-
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There's something way too easy about that claim. I see no reason not to trust it though, I'm in after Xyl gets his say.
DGB, some of your conclusions come from a scary place. You've got me in the likliest category for blue scum despite starting the wagon on devotress both days and riding it through to a lynch on D2. I wasn't on the SCoug lynch or the elvis wagon. If you'd come out and said likely to be red scum then I'd shrug and say yeah, look, that's just how it happened. But likely to be blue scum after fingering one of their members and being the first to vote them both days, never waivering on the second day when they're lynched? Zzzz.I'm old now.-
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SerialClergyman Mafia Scum
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Rarely have I seen a game go so quickly with so much good content and successful scumhunting. It helped that even the scum were helping us find the other scum.
I coasted a bit in this game, but was happy with the few reads I made - not one wrong. I don't think I ever voted non-town and was on a couple of scum wagons.
But to me I think it was just a powerful town. Quite a lot of people played well and deserve praise but to be honest, there were so few weak links mentioning names seems to me to cheapen it somehow. I'm just glad I could be a part of a game like this, it was fantastic.
Thanks for modding Spyrex, the sexy ones always get the goodp layer listsI'm old now.-
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