Seemingly Normal Mafia (Over)

[kyle99]

vote: Flareonage

Way to have a pokemon avatar.

[kyle99]

Never seen a daykill. Does it go with the lynch or does it happen right away? I wanna see how this primate thing turns out before I do anything

Here's an example of a dayvig:
http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 55#2075555

[kyle99]

@ Anon: OMGUS

vote: Anon

Nice OMGUS. At least your admitting it, I guess. If someone thinks your scum, usually countering their arguments will get you further than OMGUSing and ignoring their arguments.

vote: Toon Fighter

[kyle99]

He voted me for being too careful stating my suspicions. I show a suspicion on him and BAM! the whole village falls right on me.

I knew this was going to happen the minute I posted... damn

Its not that you voted for him, it's that you voted for him and just said it's an OMGUS without countering his arguments or giving reasons for why he's scum. If you can give legitimate reasons for your vote, I'll unvote.

[kyle99]

Jester speculation is normally a scum-tell...

Exactly. Seems like a case of "my newbie partner just said something suspicious so I'll speculate that he's a jester so I don't have to vote him right now". Farside didn't answer the "why do you think he's a jester" question right away either.

"my head hurts" sounds like frustration as well.

And the timing of asking the mod for prods on other players...

It would be very convenient to find out two scum of course. But not unheard of.

I never see a player who is scum do anything that obvious which is why I assumed jester. However rereading the queue I see it's not in the game.
Any player that plays that scummy is just hard to fathom. Now if you have seen someone play scum this badly I would like to hear about it.

If you think he's so scummy, why aren't you voting for him...

[kyle99]

Meh, I ISOed ToonFighter, and he just reeks of scum. He RVSed WAAAY to late, admited it was an OMGUS, and than admitted it was an awful vote and unvoted. Then, he voted for the next highest wagon because he said it was the best chance for him to stay alive. Claiming newb isn't going to help him on this.

[kyle99]

vote: Toon Fighter

Wanted to lynch him yesterday, and still want to lynch him.

[kyle99]

Vote: Toon

. Still a funky wagon, but avoiding the game for this long is even more suspicious, and 285 confirms it's intentional.

Kyle99, you've only commented on one other player this whole game, and haven't even asked a single question of him. You planning to hunt scum at some point, or are you just trying to coast through this without being noticed? Any comments on other suspects?

I'm not commenting on other players because Toon is scum. Look at his post on the last page and tell me he's not scum...

[kyle99]

Meh, I'm willing to vote dana. However, I'm still suspicious of toon.

unvote, dana

[kyle99]

It is better to lynch someone acting scummy than someone who you, and only you, "meta" as scummy.

That's not what I asked. You're putting words in my mouth, now. So I'm wishy-washy too. That's fine. I understand that there is a case for me being mafia. But I have things against kyle that you can't possibly all have against me: experience. And by the way, I was also scum in that game with kyle, so I definitely know all around how he acts when he's scum.

Yes, but have you played with me as town? Ask anyone who has played with me as town and scum, they'll say I play the basically the same as town and scum.

[kyle99]

Toon, what do you hope to accomplish by calling Richard the cop? Are you expecting him to "yes/no" to that, or... if you really do feel he's cop, why the heck are you voting for him?

I didn't call him cop... I said that what he did only had two explanations: either he is scum with Kyle, or he is cop. I also said that it was more likely for him to be scum than to be cop. I don't feel he is the cop, I feel he is scum with Kyle, and that is why I voted for him

As a general rule, you should really never suggest or say that someone is a cop. Even if you're sure they are, it's a bad idea because if they actually are, it gives the mafia someone to NK.

[kyle99]

Meh, I'm willing to vote dana. However, I'm still suspicious of toon.

unvote, dana

unvote, vote: danakillsu

Fixing the formatting.

[kyle99]

What happened to our dana wagon? Gah.

Unvote:dana

Vote: Nul

That was a bad post... Why do you want to vote Nul if you think dana is scum? Are you just voting on the highest bandwagon?

[kyle99]

This. Spending more time trying to appease those voting him instead of defending himself is scummy play.

Why did this wagon go away?

Because of dana's meta. I don't know his mafia meta though. But his town meta is just this scummy.

Here's a game with dana as scum:

http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=12872

[kyle99]

What happened to our dana wagon? Gah.

Unvote:dana

Vote: Nul

That was a bad post... Why do you want to vote Nul if you think dana is scum? Are you just voting on the highest bandwagon?

Kyle, as I'm sure your an expert here, how else should we get some actual participation or content from Nul? Ask politely?

I'm not saying that Nul isn't scum, or that it isn't a good person to vote for, I'm just saying that Fate just jumped on Dana's wagon, and then when Nul's wagon started to build, he hopped wagons. He seems like he just wants to vote for the highest wagon.

[kyle99]

I just want to vote for the best wagon. The last time I read this game was in the middle of N1, and I can't say I'm that invested in it to dissect D1 (I thought Magnus had good points on farside, and that magnus flipping town validates his points).

I've played with dana before and his posts can easily be written off as dumb town.

Nul has posted... twice. Definitely a better wagon.

Alright, fair enough.

I ISOed Nul and his posts made me want to cry. He admitted to following the crowd and voted toon, than at the beginning of the day, voted for toon again and said he wasn't up to switching his vote (or apparently doing any discussion).

unvote, vote: Nul

[kyle99]

My vote is staying on Nul until he explains his vote on Toon. He has contributed literally nothing this entire game, I'm surprised he doesn't have more votes.

[kyle99]

Sorry about the inactivity, all of my other games are all in Little Italy, so I sometimes forget this game exists. Sorry!

Meh, Nul seems like just a lurker and I thought that Toon would start to act more town, but he seems to be failing to actually scumhunt and just going for self-preservation. Deadline is soon, so I'm gonna

unvote, vote: Toon Fighter

[kyle99]

Sorry about the inactivity, all of my other games are all in Little Italy, so I sometimes forget this game exists. Sorry!

Good to know you're working so hard at scum hunting. Not remembering this game at all implies zero effort implies winning doesn't depend on your finding scum, just responding to prods.

Unvote Nul, Vote kyle99

That's seriously one of the worst reasons to vote that I've ever seen. Voting based on one forgetting the game suggests scum trying to bus a townie..

Bussing a townie? How does that work...

I still want a Fate lynch, but considering how close we are to deadline, I don't think that's going to happen.

[kyle99]

hey guys this is kyles brother, who wants me to post here and tell you guys that he wants to be replaced because hes in the hospitol with kidneystones

[kyle99]

Hmm, I requested replacement because I was in the hospital, but it appears no one even noticed that I requested replacement, so if you haven't started looking for a replacement, I'm out now, so I can play.

[kyle99]

Sorry guys, I've gotta replace out. School is totally owning my life atm, and it's slightly more important than playing internet mafia. Have a good game guys