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Adel - Heard noise. No ward.
Amished - Heard noise. No ward.
animorpherv1 - no noise, stalked
Chaco - heard noise, warded dram
Col. Cathart - Heard noise. No ward.
dramonic - Heard noise. No ward.
Drench
DrippingGoofball - Heard noise. No comment on ward.
Ellibereth - heard noise, no ward
elvis_knits - Heard noise. Used ward.
evilsnail - No noise. No ward.
Faraday - No noise. No ward.
Iecerint - Heard noise. No ward.
iLord - Heard noise. No ward.
Nicodemus - No noise. No ward.
Phate - Heard noise. No ward.
Sajin - Heard noise. No ward.
Sarag
Seacore - Heard noise. No ward.
semioldguy - No noise. No ward.
SlySly - No noise. No ward.
startransmission - No noise. No ward.
vikingfan - Heard noise. No ward.
VP Baltar - Heard noise. Used ward.
Wickedestjr - Heard noise. Used ward.
People who have warded (-Drench, Sarag): Chaco(dram), elvis, VP(Adel), Wick.FLASH OF GREEN-
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So you want people who should have gotten the insanity through stalking/killing to break them on purpose to test if they have them, right? So distraction, paranoid, and twitching should be the right ones for that.
This also means any investigators who decided to be wannabe murderes and stalk N0 would need to claim. Or not?
How is ward going to fit into this?FLASH OF GREEN-
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25 players, so it's about 18/7 or something like that, right? Whatever, this is what I have for now.
TOWN
Adel
Ani
Elli
elvis
Phate
VP
Wick
Chaco
iLord
DGB
Sea
Ice
EVERONE ELSE
Amished
Col. Cathart
dramonic
Drench
evilsnail
Faraday
Nicodemus
Sajin
Sarag
semioldguy
startransmission
vikingfan
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Viking, people aren't there solely from warding and whatnot. Some people there have very concrete lists for being on the town lists, while the others are a product of my gut, which I have an absurd (over?)confidence in. Regardless, I do those in almost all the games I'm in now and they work for me.
Dram's 19/6 looks right. Sly's whole modkill thing is not a tell.FLASH OF GREEN-
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CRAZY IDEA THAT NOONE SHOULD TAKE SERIOUSLY BUT I'VE BEEN THINKING ABOUT.
This is also probably flawed as hell, but whatever:
We somehow come together with a list of 12 peoples not counting Ani that are "town", and we run Adel's killing plan with the town reads killing off everyone else.
If I'm being an idiot, ignore this post.FLASH OF GREEN-
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i don't see what's changed enough for the opposers (myself included) to support thisDrench wrote:Ellibereth wrote:CRAZY IDEA THAT NOONE SHOULD TAKE SERIOUSLY BUT I'VE BEEN THINKING ABOUT.
This is also probably flawed as hell, but whatever:
We somehow come together with a list of 12 peoples not counting Ani that are "town", and we run Adel's killing plan with the town reads killing off everyone else.
If I'm being an idiot, ignore this post.
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No random generator thing, it probably increases odds of town winning even more than Adel's assuming town is able to pick out who other town are.
All it's doing is regulating night actions, there's no force breaking of insanities or stuff like that.FLASH OF GREEN-
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Not@Phate:
The main "problems" with Adel's plan to some people (I think):
Using a generator to decide pairings.
Breaking Infractions on purpose.
If we make the pairings list ourselves, it's still playing mafia! Townhunt 12 people. Cult tries to get enough people in that list to survive.
If this is still not "playing mafia", then any form of pure Night action regulation within the town isn't playing mafia, as in essence, that's all the plan is.FLASH OF GREEN-
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Ugh, we already went through this once, but could I have a support or oppose to my variation of the plan?
I would prefer a reason to those that oppose, and do note that it is nothing more than an elaborate Night action regulation within the town. No taking advantage of certain rules or the like.FLASH OF GREEN-
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Sly, tell me what's wrong with my plan from your Point of view. It involves townhunting. If it's not over post-mass killing it involves scumhunting.SlySly wrote:
Fixed.Phate wrote:Ellibereth, I am in favor of your plan, but you can stop wasting your breath because there are several town players whoshirk their duty to play to winrefuse to "play to break the game".
And I won't believe that you're against town deciding together on how to handle Night Actions.FLASH OF GREEN-
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I blame it onto the lack of a thought process.elvis_knits wrote:
...Ellibereth wrote:Ok, fine then I'll set a precedent.
HI EVERYONE, I'M AN IDIOT WHO STALKED N1.
Stalked: Col_Cathart
Insanity: Taboo Launder
I did it while forgetting half the rules. yay me!
What was your thought process when you chose stalk...?
Even worse my insanity cannot be confirmed like Ani's so I should probably land on the "to be murdered" list of people if we go through with my plan.FLASH OF GREEN-
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanlon%27s_razorSlySly wrote:Shocker, the potential murderer wants a free pass at getting one step ahead of the sheep he is trying to herd!!
Ell, you idiot!
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By the way, if we are going with my plan:
ANI CATEGORY
Ani
TOWN KILLERS
Adel
elvis
Phate
VP
Wick
Chaco
iLord
DGB
Sea
Ice
Faraday
PEOPLE GETTING KILLED
Amished
Col. Cathart
dramonic
Drench
evilsnail
Nicodemus
Sajin
Sarag
semioldguy
startransmission
vikingfan
Ellibereth
So I still need to move 1 person from the bottom group up. Not sure who yet.FLASH OF GREEN-
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1. We agree on the Shooter Shootee list.
2. No Lynch, enter Night. Shooters stalk Shootees. Insanity gained TBD.
3. Day 2. 1 person dead due to ritual. Dead person's paired partner is A) Lynched if on Shootee list and B) No lynch again if on Shooter list. Said person's night action for that day if on Shooter list TBD.
4. N2. Shooters kill off Shootees.
^^^ Sketched out plan. Not close to final.FLASH OF GREEN-
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If we want to go to the traditional route, there is scum amongst the people who posted after Ani was confirmed and is still voting him.Percy wrote:Vote Count
animorpherv1 - 5 (startransmission, iLord, vikingfan, Nicodemus, dramonic)
Nicodemus - 3 (evilsnail, Iecerint, animorpherv1)
Hayker - 2 (Wickedestjr, SlySly)
Ellibereth - 2 (Faraday, Phate)
SlySly - 1 (Seacore)
evilsnail - 1 (Amished)
Iecerint - 1 (VP Baltar)
Chaco - 1 (DrippingGoofball)
Not Voting- 9 (Col.Cathart, Drench, Sarag, semioldguy, Sajin, Chaco, Ellibereth, elvis_knits, Hayker)
Deadline for today is 8:00am (site time) on Thursday the 11th of March. You can view a countdown to the deadline here.
With 25 alive, 13 votes are required to lynch.FLASH OF GREEN-
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^^^ This wasn't a response. You say you're open to the idea. Whether this wins the game for town or not is completely up to the town's ability to townhunt.SlySly wrote:
It is still a variant of a game breaker. I am not opposed to town dictation of players who are needing monitoring, such as ani. We have no idea how many players stalked last night and how many potential murderers there are. IMO, actions of the night will expose what needs to be town controlled. I think any approach like this stands a great chance of failing when holes are revealed and the town has neglected to get the needed tools put in place by the setup, leaving the town naked, in a sense, a reverse break of the game in favor of the cultists. Although, I will say I am more open to your idea than one, such as Adel's, that makes the game become nothing more than a boring fun free observation of a game of Risk.Ellibereth wrote: Sly, tell me what's wrong with my plan from your Point of view.FLASH OF GREEN-
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What is the difference between lynching scum and masskilling scum?
A: The second is faster.
Your stubborness to anything other than conventional methods of playing is getting ridiculous. Night actions are part of the game. Regulated them are part of the game. Cooperating with the rest of the town is.
I'm going to wait for EVERYONE to either support or not support. I would be very amusing if only 6 or 7 people do not support it...FLASH OF GREEN-
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Not pointing out "holes" in a plan that is being discussed is anti-town.SlySly wrote:
Your stubborness to stick to a bad plan is as ridiculous to me as my stubborness is to you. There are obvious, glaring holes in your plan. I am not going to point them out in case you convince the rest of the town to go along with the idiotic idea, as I don't want to empower the scum.Ellibereth wrote: Your stubborness to anything other than conventional methods of playing is getting ridiculous.FLASH OF GREEN-
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Town wins every game of mafia then, don't they?SlySly wrote:
Point out the holes in this plan.Ellibereth wrote: Not pointing out "holes" in a plan that is being discussed is anti-town.
There aren't any.SlySly wrote: I think the best approach leading to a town win is, lynch scum, get proper tools, use them to gain maximum information, analyze and discuss gained information and dictate actions based on the gained information. In other words, play mafia.
My claim is that my plan has a higher chance of allowing a town win than yours. Please refute that claim if you are able to.FLASH OF GREEN-
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Incorrecto. If we agree to go with the plan, D1 will be spent compiling the list of 12 Shooters. If we choose completely correctly, town wins on the spot! For the next 2 days, we deal with inconsistencies in the projected happenings, and assuming a good decision on the town list, we should be in an extremely good position to win coming out of it.Seacore wrote:My issue is that you are removing scum hunting from the game and replacing it with maths
We'll get to day 4 and just have a regular game of mafia in which there has been no scum hunting.
Plus, it's the prisoner's dilemma, sure it's in people's be interest to not go murderer, but some will, because they want, what the consider to be a better victory.
What you posted wasn't prisoner's dilemna, but the majority of the "town list" I would bet, would be rational people who be more wanting to win. Remember, a murderer needs 6 nights to win. With town in a dominating presence coming out of the plan, the chances of the murderer win is close to nil.FLASH OF GREEN-
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Ok, start townhunting in your head. We need to wait for more support and then we need to discuss the shooter shootee lists.Seacore wrote:Fine, go ahead. I don't have the energy to keep up with pages upon pages.
I don't like the plan, but I was always planning to go investigator. I don't think it'll work, but I'll follow it to the T.FLASH OF GREEN-
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